Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:20:03 PM No.4434044
Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic? Does every little thing in a photo have to be intentional?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:29:46 PM No.4434048
That's kind of the whole fun of film photography and especially double exposure, where you shoot through the whole roll twice and see what happens, instead of planning out every frame. Hell even long exposure shots have a certain level of uncertainty and randomness.
I bet there are photographers better than me that always know exactly what their film photos will end up looking like, but for me it's always a little adventure to get my scans back having already forgotten half the pictures I took on the film a month ago. As much as it's sometimes disappointing when a picture you thought would be good turned out shit, there's also always that great feeling of having a picture you thought would be mid turn out really great.
I bet there are photographers better than me that always know exactly what their film photos will end up looking like, but for me it's always a little adventure to get my scans back having already forgotten half the pictures I took on the film a month ago. As much as it's sometimes disappointing when a picture you thought would be good turned out shit, there's also always that great feeling of having a picture you thought would be mid turn out really great.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:42:09 PM No.4434049
Well, I take snaps while walking my dog at night with few seconds exposure time and of random things like snow clumps and flowing water &cet to edit. I find the resulting incomprehensible mess interesting. I do not think that kind of stuff has any value than I or on anyone else subjectively sees in it.
(An old snap of turbulent water, few minutes in gimp.)
(An old snap of turbulent water, few minutes in gimp.)
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:53:15 PM No.4434051
>>4434049
I like your edited photograph. I think time spent on something is a meme. If you can make something look good in post production that is quickly done, then who cares if it took a small amount of time? There’s no shame in making something quickly if its overall quality doesn’t suffer.
Art photography shouldn’t be shunned for that either. So who’s to say you can’t enter that into an art photography prize?
I like your edited photograph. I think time spent on something is a meme. If you can make something look good in post production that is quickly done, then who cares if it took a small amount of time? There’s no shame in making something quickly if its overall quality doesn’t suffer.
Art photography shouldn’t be shunned for that either. So who’s to say you can’t enter that into an art photography prize?
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:15:31 PM No.4434054
>>4434048
>there's also always that great feeling of having a picture you thought would be mid turn out really great.
This. Also playing around with it in post production and editing is part of the artistic process.
>there's also always that great feeling of having a picture you thought would be mid turn out really great.
This. Also playing around with it in post production and editing is part of the artistic process.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:20:53 PM No.4434055
>>4434054
I don't edit my film photos because it goes against the spirit of what I take them for. I intend them to be a documentary of my life for my future self and am less concerned with making artistic looking shots and more just preserve little pockets of cool memories.
But I am an absolute sucker for editing digital. To be honest I kind of miss the earlier days of editing, when it was more a journey of discovery. Now that I know how to achieve most of the effects I want it's a lot less exciting.
I don't edit my film photos because it goes against the spirit of what I take them for. I intend them to be a documentary of my life for my future self and am less concerned with making artistic looking shots and more just preserve little pockets of cool memories.
But I am an absolute sucker for editing digital. To be honest I kind of miss the earlier days of editing, when it was more a journey of discovery. Now that I know how to achieve most of the effects I want it's a lot less exciting.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:15:13 PM No.4434074
>>4434044 (OP)
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
Anything we humans do or in the current of the nature can be artistic not just with in the scope of photography. Even if there is no actor or subject that willed to make it artistic. The photo can come around to containe artistic sense.
And all photographie is not art. and it shouldn't be.
It can convey artistic senses but not be an art.
In fact, determining the photographie as an art is disrespecting it's fundamentals. If you treat it as an art form it becomes not photographie anymore.
Then, what is the fundamentals of photography?
Capturing the fraction of time you experienced which cannot be replicated.
No painters no hyper-realism artist can't do this shit.
Because painters realize their image from their imagination and memory at the best to get close
to the photography's inherit objectivity. Among human's tools and ways of representation only photography can literally, captures the reality even before you memorizing or perceiving it (which is quite related to your question "Accidents in photograpie").
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
Anything we humans do or in the current of the nature can be artistic not just with in the scope of photography. Even if there is no actor or subject that willed to make it artistic. The photo can come around to containe artistic sense.
And all photographie is not art. and it shouldn't be.
It can convey artistic senses but not be an art.
In fact, determining the photographie as an art is disrespecting it's fundamentals. If you treat it as an art form it becomes not photographie anymore.
Then, what is the fundamentals of photography?
Capturing the fraction of time you experienced which cannot be replicated.
No painters no hyper-realism artist can't do this shit.
Because painters realize their image from their imagination and memory at the best to get close
to the photography's inherit objectivity. Among human's tools and ways of representation only photography can literally, captures the reality even before you memorizing or perceiving it (which is quite related to your question "Accidents in photograpie").
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:29:28 PM No.4434076
>>4434044 (OP)
the whole of art photography is centered around lying about accidents
>it's symbolic of the intersectional synergizing of the narratives
the whole of art photography is centered around lying about accidents
>it's symbolic of the intersectional synergizing of the narratives
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 6:28:38 PM No.4434080
>>4434044 (OP)
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
No
Does every little thing in a photo have to be intentional?
No
For something to be "art" it has to be intentional though.
Accidents, fate and chance do not make a photo art or artistic.
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
No
Does every little thing in a photo have to be intentional?
No
For something to be "art" it has to be intentional though.
Accidents, fate and chance do not make a photo art or artistic.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:26:51 PM No.4434096
>>4434080
never has a poster been more wrong. you see art as a craftsmanship contest apparently. might wanna go back to wood shop or car modding contests pal.
>For something to be "art" it has to be intentional though.
it does not, and it does not matter.
>Accidents, fate and chance do not make a photo art or artistic.
they can if they ultimately make the viewer feel something.
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
yes
>Does every little thing in a photo have to be intentional?
it does not matter
never has a poster been more wrong. you see art as a craftsmanship contest apparently. might wanna go back to wood shop or car modding contests pal.
>For something to be "art" it has to be intentional though.
it does not, and it does not matter.
>Accidents, fate and chance do not make a photo art or artistic.
they can if they ultimately make the viewer feel something.
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
yes
>Does every little thing in a photo have to be intentional?
it does not matter
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:48:04 PM No.4434104
>>4434055
"Editing" is an inextricable part of shooting film. Moreso with b&w, but still. Film choice, dev choice, scanning method, etc. are all part of editing film and that's before you do anything to print them.
"Editing" is an inextricable part of shooting film. Moreso with b&w, but still. Film choice, dev choice, scanning method, etc. are all part of editing film and that's before you do anything to print them.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:48:22 PM No.4434105
>>4434049
if you think it is interesting, then that's valuable on its own. shake off the notion that you must have toiled or done a specific exalted Art ceremony for a piece to be legitimate or considered art. art is expression and that comes in many forms. sometimes it is mundane in origin
personally i think this is an awesome image on its own. it could become even stronger with the next step of weaving it into a broader project with some sort of thematic direction. wherein we go from merely 'looks cool' to adding 'communicates something'
if you think it is interesting, then that's valuable on its own. shake off the notion that you must have toiled or done a specific exalted Art ceremony for a piece to be legitimate or considered art. art is expression and that comes in many forms. sometimes it is mundane in origin
personally i think this is an awesome image on its own. it could become even stronger with the next step of weaving it into a broader project with some sort of thematic direction. wherein we go from merely 'looks cool' to adding 'communicates something'
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 10:07:45 PM No.4434133
>>4434104
For sure, and I'm not one of the people who opposes editing film out of principle. Because I know the scans I get from the lab are just one "interpretation" of the developed film and if I sent it to another lab they would probably look different.
But either way it's just not something i do
For sure, and I'm not one of the people who opposes editing film out of principle. Because I know the scans I get from the lab are just one "interpretation" of the developed film and if I sent it to another lab they would probably look different.
But either way it's just not something i do
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 10:29:53 PM No.4434136
>>4434096
I would not have written it better, thanks.
I would not have written it better, thanks.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:03:41 PM No.4434140
>>4434096
Everything you posted is complete and utter bullshit. Either an artist has intent or they are not an artist. It's as simple as that. Cope and seethe all you want. It won't change the definition of art including intent.
Everything you posted is complete and utter bullshit. Either an artist has intent or they are not an artist. It's as simple as that. Cope and seethe all you want. It won't change the definition of art including intent.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:06:32 PM No.4434145
>>4434140
never has a poster been more wrong. you see art as a craftsmanship contest apparently. might wanna go back to wood shop or car modding contests pal.
>For something to be "art" it has to be intentional though.
it does not, and it does not matter.
>Accidents, fate and chance do not make a photo art or artistic.
they can if they ultimately make the viewer feel something.
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
yes
>Does every little thing in a photo have to be intentional?
it does not matter
never has a poster been more wrong. you see art as a craftsmanship contest apparently. might wanna go back to wood shop or car modding contests pal.
>For something to be "art" it has to be intentional though.
it does not, and it does not matter.
>Accidents, fate and chance do not make a photo art or artistic.
they can if they ultimately make the viewer feel something.
>Can you claim that an accidental aspect of a photograph is artistic?
yes
>Does every little thing in a photo have to be intentional?
it does not matter
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:07:58 PM No.4434146
>>4434136
That's because you aren't an artist. You think you are a special snowflake that can bend and shape fact with your feelings. You read something that confirms your emotions on something and you think that supports your feelings as being fact. It doesn't however. It just outs you as a snowflake that has no understanding of art.
That's because you aren't an artist. You think you are a special snowflake that can bend and shape fact with your feelings. You read something that confirms your emotions on something and you think that supports your feelings as being fact. It doesn't however. It just outs you as a snowflake that has no understanding of art.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:09:33 PM No.4434148
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:09:50 PM No.4434149
>>4434146
>I'm an artist because uh, sweat blood and tears
No, you're a construction worker, car guy, gaming PC builder, or something else.
You're not an artist because you think art is about you and proving your competence and skill. It's not. Art is about what other people think. That's it. Otherwise you're just jacking off trying to feel better about doodles and snapshits.
>I'm an artist because uh, sweat blood and tears
No, you're a construction worker, car guy, gaming PC builder, or something else.
You're not an artist because you think art is about you and proving your competence and skill. It's not. Art is about what other people think. That's it. Otherwise you're just jacking off trying to feel better about doodles and snapshits.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:12:31 PM No.4434150
>>4434148
Art does not require intent because art is the relationship between the experiencer and the experience.
You are unable to address this. You just cried "NO! COPE!" and re-iterated your low IQ low class shit where art itself is reduced to an "artistry contest" and anything is art as long as you mean it to be.
No. Sorry. You are Not Important Enough to decide What IS Art. Art is determined by other people. Not you, some blue collar camera guy with his head up his ass. By people much smarter than you, and people much dumber than you, who all understand that art is called when seen no matter how much or how little work you did.
Art does not require intent because art is the relationship between the experiencer and the experience.
You are unable to address this. You just cried "NO! COPE!" and re-iterated your low IQ low class shit where art itself is reduced to an "artistry contest" and anything is art as long as you mean it to be.
No. Sorry. You are Not Important Enough to decide What IS Art. Art is determined by other people. Not you, some blue collar camera guy with his head up his ass. By people much smarter than you, and people much dumber than you, who all understand that art is called when seen no matter how much or how little work you did.
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6/9/2025, 11:24:31 PM No.4434156
>>4434150
>Art does not require intent because art is the relationship between the experiencer and the experience.
Suppose for a moment you're correct. Then who is the artist? Judy? Checkm8 atheists, you've been officially Lynched.
I reject your jewish concept of what art IS.
>Art does not require intent because art is the relationship between the experiencer and the experience.
Suppose for a moment you're correct. Then who is the artist? Judy? Checkm8 atheists, you've been officially Lynched.
I reject your jewish concept of what art IS.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:36:52 PM No.4434160
>>4434150
I experience my art before anyone else, so I get to say if it is or isn't art. Simple as.
I experience my art before anyone else, so I get to say if it is or isn't art. Simple as.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:49:06 PM No.4434164
>>4434160
Ok, so enjoy "your" art alone in your little corner.
Ok, so enjoy "your" art alone in your little corner.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:52:13 PM No.4434166
>>4434164
Wrong. I saw it first and decided it was art before showing it to the whole entire world.
Are you projecting again, sir?
Wrong. I saw it first and decided it was art before showing it to the whole entire world.
Are you projecting again, sir?
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:54:50 PM No.4434167
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:56:26 PM No.4434168
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:02:01 AM No.4434169
>>4434164
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast
ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them
under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast
ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them
under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:04:25 AM No.4434170
>>4434150
>Art does not require intent
I think I disagree with this but my view of this is heavily influenced by Duchamp's Fountain and other readymade art. Where intent is the only ingredient required to make an everyday object into art.
Tough I think that's still compatible with incorporating randomness and accidents into your art, since that's an intentional choice by the artist.
Then again I'm a supporter of Death of the Author, so maybe that does extend to not only misinterpreting art but also deciding what is art in the first place.
Dunno man, I'm a stem major so I don't know much about this kind of stuff. So maybe I'm wrong, didn't have much time to think it through quite yet.
>Art does not require intent
I think I disagree with this but my view of this is heavily influenced by Duchamp's Fountain and other readymade art. Where intent is the only ingredient required to make an everyday object into art.
Tough I think that's still compatible with incorporating randomness and accidents into your art, since that's an intentional choice by the artist.
Then again I'm a supporter of Death of the Author, so maybe that does extend to not only misinterpreting art but also deciding what is art in the first place.
Dunno man, I'm a stem major so I don't know much about this kind of stuff. So maybe I'm wrong, didn't have much time to think it through quite yet.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:05:49 AM No.4434171
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:07:20 AM No.4434172
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:09:54 AM No.4434175
>>4434171
Can confirm. Dogs are based.
>>4434172
Nothing jesus "said" is actually real, it was made up 50-200 years after the fact. That passage in particular is just mosaic law repeated again because you mistook a bronze age law book for a religion.
Can confirm. Dogs are based.
>>4434172
Nothing jesus "said" is actually real, it was made up 50-200 years after the fact. That passage in particular is just mosaic law repeated again because you mistook a bronze age law book for a religion.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:14:19 AM No.4434181
>>4434179
BASED euphoric dog.
BASED euphoric dog.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:35:06 AM No.4434268
>>4434044 (OP)
Was the Titanic sinking art? Was the Chernobyl Disaster art? Was the child you accidentally knocked up your cousin with art?
The answers to these questions are the answers you're looking for.
Was the Titanic sinking art? Was the Chernobyl Disaster art? Was the child you accidentally knocked up your cousin with art?
The answers to these questions are the answers you're looking for.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 1:11:13 PM No.4434335
>>4434172
Some Jews are atheists or agnostics, they probably don't even care
Some Jews are atheists or agnostics, they probably don't even care
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:57:11 AM No.4437573
>>4434049
Based incoherent mess anon. I think it has value if that means anything. I do pretty similar things with some of my pictures and struggle with the feeling that its anything more than just "pissing around with some filters" but since i started posting my abstract stuff, ive had people ask me to do album covers for them. So. I guess theres something in that. At the end of the day its fun and fires off neurons in a pleasant way. Good enough for me.
Based incoherent mess anon. I think it has value if that means anything. I do pretty similar things with some of my pictures and struggle with the feeling that its anything more than just "pissing around with some filters" but since i started posting my abstract stuff, ive had people ask me to do album covers for them. So. I guess theres something in that. At the end of the day its fun and fires off neurons in a pleasant way. Good enough for me.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:59:52 AM No.4437574
>>4437573
whoops. meant to post pic rel and a different one but. ill just leave it.
whoops. meant to post pic rel and a different one but. ill just leave it.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:09:37 AM No.4438014
>>4437654
Thanks anon. Ive found its a decent way to breath some life into pictures i think are neat for one reason or another but were duds overall. wrong focus, bad framing, etc. It might be stretching the definition of a photograph but i have a big set of nonsense from when i used to get drunk and play with my scanner by dragging stuff across the top and making weird textures, stretched out images and whatnot.
Thanks anon. Ive found its a decent way to breath some life into pictures i think are neat for one reason or another but were duds overall. wrong focus, bad framing, etc. It might be stretching the definition of a photograph but i have a big set of nonsense from when i used to get drunk and play with my scanner by dragging stuff across the top and making weird textures, stretched out images and whatnot.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:10:18 PM No.4438093