What do you do to your RAW files? Why is editing RAW important for a journeyman photographer? I could just snap jay pegs but it doesn't feel the same.

>it doesnt feel the same

because your camera has the processing power of a calculator compared to even a cell phone

raws hold more detail and let you recover shadows

i just hit auto in lightroom and get 90% where i want just off that then dehaze/clarify as needed

>>4434571 (OP)
RAW lets you recover from less than perfect exposure.

A common example is capturing a subject in shadow, and a bright sky/background. If you shoot in JPG you have to choose whether you want the subject too dark and the sky exposed well, or the sky with clipped highlights and the subject properly exposed.

With RAW you "expose to the right" to avoid your highlights being BTFO and then can lift the shadows on the subject, so that everything in frame is properly exposed.

>>4434572
Lets see it.

>>4434572
When are you gonna get laid lil bro

>>4434591
I would get doxxed, I'm a famous pohotographer and all rich and famous photographers secretly just use smart phones. Smart phones have been used to produce all major motion pictures for the past 20 years. Dune was shot on an iPhone

>>4434608
what no pussy does to a mf

>>4434609
You dumbasses paying thousands of dollars for moonrock encrusted lenses are the ones who have no sex

If your camera's JPEG engine gives you pleasing results that you're happy with, then that's that.
I find however, that taking the time and having the processing power of a PC over a camera gives you more control over how the final result turns out.
Having RAWs around also means that as software improves, or as you improve in your processing skills/knowledge, you can always go back to a RAW and try again. JPEGs don't give you that freedom.

Funny because I find that putting a RAW into Canon's DPP soley for their NR has been giving me better results than what I normally use. But I hate its workflow, so I export it as a 16-bit TIFF then work that in my regular software.

>>4434626
>self aware trolling
100% a virgin no cap

>>4434571 (OP)
>be JPEG faggot
OH WOW THE WHITE BALANCE GOT IT WRONG, GUESS MY PHOTO IS DOOMED

>RAW
I control white balance

>>4434571 (OP)
I like raw, I like being able to adjust WB later if needed, I like not having to choose picture styles in the moment. I like being able to edit more if I need to and recover more highlights and shadows if needed. That being said 90% of the time most of the editing I do to photos is just one or two sliders, as I use the cameras I use because I like the images they produce.

>>4434571 (OP)
I just really love the process of editing. Fucking with the colors to create the right mood and so on.
Often a place "feels" a certain way when you are there, but then the picture looks much blander. My favorite example is shooting in an autumn forest, in person it feels vibrant and beautiful but the colors in the pictures don't pop nearly as much as your subjective experience of the place.
Either way, editing RAW means your starting point for editing is the maximum amount of information possible

If you can get the shots you want in camera every time I guess no need to bother

>>4434652
>>4434687
WB isn't "the" argument for RAW.
If you've done any film scanning or color enlargement, you realize WB is just the right balance of color filters, you can do that with a JPEG with 0 issues.
Could do that with 0 issues 10 years ago already.

Its wonderful to have the ability to bring back shadows and highlights though; my only use cases for RAWs are extremely demanding scenes like a sunset with a subject in front, or an overcast scene where you want bright ground and still a grey sky with cloud details

Tech is insane now, filters aren't necessary anymore most of the time

>>4434716
Not gunna lie i've never even really tried to edit a jpeg, because whenever I shoot in jpeg I shoot in RAW + jpg large, so if im going to edit I just edit the raw.
>Tech is insane now, filters aren't necessary anymore most of the time
wouldnt know, most of my cameras are 20+ years old. For those i'm sure jpeg results would be disappointing, but I dont really benefit from faster readouts so I couldnt tell you

>>4434716
>If you've done any film scanning or color enlargement, you realize WB is just the right balance of color filters, you can do that with a JPEG with 0 issues.
I have but I did that in RAW too.

>>4434571 (OP)
If you shoot JPG, you're just shooting RAW and letting the camera manufacturers do the processing for you

>>4434716
No man. You cant fix white balance in an 8 bit jpeg
Also every camera under $5k generates worse jpegs than a pc raw processor. They use CPUs that belong in pocket calculators. Idiots like ken rockwell who think r5 = iphone only think that because they shoot jpeg.

Despite clueless boomers and tech illiterate zoomers you are not actually meant to use jpeg. The design committee just said it had to be there, like green auto mode.

>>4434716
You can set white balance properly for JPG, yes
But you don't even have to worry about setting it when shooting RAW

>>4434571 (OP)
sooc is a disingenuous scam

>>4434750
They have dedicated image processors which, I assume, are similar to gpus. But they must produce jpegs as fast as you shoot them and without draining all the battery, while a raw processor on PC can handle just a few per minute.

>>4434750
Boomers went big into RAW when it came out, Gen X learn from them, millennials too, but Gen Z/A only know there’s phone screens and are shooting for their feed where phone jpgs are good enough, got caught in the nostalgia of lofi via “filters” and cheap point & shoot jpgs, and Are now asking why are old people bother shooting raw because it’s stupid to spend that much time and effort on an image when billions of images get posted a day that no one even sees because cameras are ubiquitous and images have been commodified to valuelessness.

>>4434774
Gen Z/A literally do not know how to use computers, and gen Z/A are the most mentally ill and least functionally intelligent generations in history. They are the people who do not just say, but actually believe, "insta or u dont exist".

They are not capable of doing things because they want to do things. They can only do things because other people will like them. And the stats speak for themselves. They aren't getting laid for shit. Gen Z and gen A are the generations with the highest proportion of virgins. 1/4 zoomers is a virgin over 20. Gen A is doing worse.

Shooting raw is for mentally healthy people, basically. The idea that you can do photography, put effort into a photo, make it look nice, and be fine showing it to maybe one or two other people is a very, very healthy idea that is absolutely foreign to these generations and their 80% depression rate.
>images have been commodified to valuelessness.
It's not the images that are valueless. It's the attitude of the people making them that generates zero (SELF) worth.
>insta or u dont exist
>why do dat if u don get no like n retweet skibidi?

>>4434779
A zoomer sees a mentally healthy person with a nice camera and says
>you wasted your time and money no one cares NO ONE CARES! NO ONE LIKES YOU! NO ONE CARES! LIKES OR YOU DONT EXIST! FOLLOWS OR YOU DONT EXIST! YOU ARE NOBODY! NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU DO! NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU! NOBODY CARES! YOU WASTED YOUR MONEY YOU GOT SCAMMED MY PHONE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR WHAT MATTERS - SOCIAL MEDIA ATTENTION!
No wonder they have the highest suicide rate in recent US history.

>>4434780
>>4434779
I print things and frame them for fun, and if someone thinks a photo I show them is nice, I make them a 6x4 or 5x7 photobook up with 10 or 20 prints as a gift.
I feel like the opposite of this zoomer social media fungus that has infected people.

>>4434779
not reading allat unc
everyone know generations go in an ABAB pattern of based cringe based cringe
>gen alpha
cring
>gen z
zased
>gen y / millenials
cringe (citation: emoji pillows, flash mobs and pizza is bae)
>gen x
based (citation limp bizkit)
>boomers
cringe

hope this helps chief.

>>4434976
>boomers: cringe
>gen x: based
>gen y: cringe
>gen z: cringe
>gen a: cringe
>gen beta: turbo cringe
>human extinction event

Anyone got good ressources on learning how to use rawtherapee, or processing raws in general ?
Also if anybody has photo books recommandations related to subject I'll take it