What went wrong? - /p/ (#4435728) [Archived: 513 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:04:07 AM No.4435728
Cameras Soul vs Soulless
Cameras Soul vs Soulless
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Take me back.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:11:11 AM No.4435729
>>4435728 (OP)
Buy an ad
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:17:45 AM No.4435733
>>4435728 (OP)
>wowee zowee! I LOVE old shitty cheap point and shoots cause that's all I can afford!
fuck off
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:05:15 PM No.4435766
>>4435733
You haven't gotten the memo about how zoomers are buying those things for a massive markup? Affordability is not the issue.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:09:34 PM No.4435784
>>4435728 (OP)
Top: photography was a female dominant market
Bottom: photography is a male dominant market

You are feminine. Trans even.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:11:29 PM No.4435785
>>4435766
>havent you heard zoomers-
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/25/us/gen-z-adults-lgbtq-identity-reaj
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:59:10 PM No.4435810
>>4435728 (OP)
What the hell happened to innovation?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:15:06 PM No.4435814
tescos-summer-womens-clothing-section-london-england-uk-CPH9DT
>>4435810
>innovation
>>4435784 is spot on, it looks like a womens clothing section outta walmart. Lots of "quirk" for no actual functional reason because the primary market for these things was young western mothers who could not afford film. If you look back in history, cameras marketed at a primarily male demographic in the west have always looked samey (silver box SLRs, silver and black rangefinders, guess the brand of a view camera from 20ft away you cant, etc) and cameras marketed at a primarily female demographic (baby film shitters and other plastic stuff) have always had wildly varying designs because most of the people buying them are young mothers who want pictures of their children.

Interestingly, if we switch contexts over to say, japan, nikon's standard prosumer cameras are the ones being marketed to women, because japanese women have stronger egos than american women and are more emotionally mature. Emotionally imature, weak ego'd american women are afraid of wearing the same shirt as another woman because that nullifies their identity.

The term isn't "soulless", it's mature. The need to "buy a personality" is what's actually soulless, literally. No inner self, no inner world, no assurance that the individual exists and has value without observation by others. The westernized woman, in being a "princess", has become schrodingers cat. She does and does not exist until someone else validates her condition. Gen Z is now looking back at these cameras with lust because they, like the westernized woman, have no soul due to growing up in vanity/clout culture where "instagram or you dont exist" and faux popularity is the very first measure of self worth they learn. "Buy a personality" has gone from western culture oppressing the female sex with socially enforced infancy to applying to both sexes and oppressing them equally. Sad.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:26:53 PM No.4435816
handheld-shooting
handheld-shooting
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>>4435814
5'2" japanese qts are strong willed individuals walk around with Z8s instead of purses. In japan, a good camera, is a good camera. You buy the best one you can afford.

American zoomer men (men for now) are so sad they're afraid to own a camera that cant be hidden in a pocket and it has to be a funny color to prove that they aren't exactly like everyone else

How can the west compete with glorious nippon?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:37:02 PM No.4435832
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6a00df351e888f88340133ecf745cb970b-800wi
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>>4435728 (OP)
curious that pentax has the only real cameras in the soul group. and they've never been shy about a splash of colour. Pentax chads wya?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:32:58 PM No.4435846
>>4435766
>massive markup
I can get old shit for cheap on ebay still. I bought a Camedia c7070 for $30. Only special snowflake shit like the rd1s went crazy. Besides OP is posting about "soul" and "souless". Audio and video equipment is amongst the last of things still built by people with intention
Sugar !egyYvoBZV2
6/14/2025, 9:04:33 PM No.4435851
>>4435728 (OP)

Nothing went wrong, you can still find brand new compacts today like those and unlike the ones in the picture, they don't suck. This soul vs. soulless shit is just fucking gay ass hipster bullshit.

I had the Fuji WP, the Canon, the Nikon that rotates, the Dimage and a variation of the Sony compact. They were fun but the image quality was atrocious. They're still fun.

It's easy to look back on those older digital cams with rose colored glasses, and they were cool too. I still have the Fuji and do use it periodically when I'm on vacation and just trying to live in the moment. I have a variation of the Nikon rotating cam that has manual functions and shoots a whopping 3.34mp on compact flash.

The bottom line is, the soulless cams on the bottom, yes even the M4/3 Lolympus, would absolutely fucking American History X curbstomp the top row in every single metric and I'm betting the Olympus could be concealed in a pocket with the right lens.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:41:39 PM No.4435856
>>4435851
>m4turds curbsomping chad Pentax apsc km
Sugar being delusional yet again. I bet it barely even rivals the Q lmao
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:43:35 PM No.4435857
>>4435851
>m4/turds curbstomping the Chad apsc Pentax k01
Sugar being delusional yet again. I bet it barely even rivals the Q lmao
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:45:41 PM No.4435858
>>4435814
Not reading all that but from the first sentence you are instantly wrong. Cheaper cameras were waaaay more competitive than pro cameras as they sell in much larger volumes and made up way more of the market share. Obviously now this has been replaced by phones.
Also
>silver box SLRs
>silver rangefinders
>silver
You are trans sorry. Functional photographer who aren't taking pictures as a planned stunt for their woke social media use black cameras as they're more functional. Silver cameras are a fashion accessory. This is an objective fact.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:47:55 PM No.4435859
>>4435816
>fatguy extrapolates an ad to all japanese people
>well actshully in japaaan....
kek
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:11:51 PM No.4435876
>>4435728 (OP)
Go on ebay, they sell all kinds of e-waste you can imagine there
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:54:30 AM No.4435910
pol
pol
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>>4435784
>>4435814
>>4435858
Unironically go outside and touch some grass.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:55:24 AM No.4435933
>>4435858
>No bro its because COMPETITIVE!
It's because low end photography is predominantly done by white women. Those cameras were designed to look like makeup cases. This is true of photography and white women even today, but you dont notice because all the white women went to phones (hence, phones are always available in pink and green and sparkly purple and shit).

The flash of color shit you want still exists, it's just in smartphones and smartphone cases because the market was those same white women. We also stopped considering it photography entirely because we could finally pretend they weren't using cameras.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:57:32 AM No.4435934
>>4435858
the functionality of black cameras is a myth. your white skin will end up in the photo just as often. they were actually requested by photojournalists because they're harder to see and it stuck because it was about looking professional.

black cameras are actually less functional for people who aren't trying to remain hidden because they heat up faster in the sun. manufacturers might use black bodies because it's the social norm now, but lenses that are meant to be outside all the time are usually white.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:00:51 AM No.4435936
>>4435728 (OP)
>What went wrong
The optimism of the 2000's died and innovation wasn't needed anymore.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:02:58 AM No.4435938
>>4435910
>no real response
>m-muh pol
So anyway
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:14:22 AM No.4435945
>>4435938
>zero self awareness
4chan has rotted your brain bro
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:41:07 AM No.4435955
>>4435945
>uhm, did you know saying that is socially unacceptable? you must be wrong
A lot of things are socially unacceptable to say. Sadly, they are also true. That's actually why they're socially unacceptable.

Go in public and say "Israel has a right to exist as a democracy with equal rights that respects human rights abroad" or "People with foreign citizenship should not be allowed to hold government positions" and see what happens
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:48:31 AM No.4435959
>>4435728 (OP)
>top womens camera
>bottom mens cameras
maybe you're gay
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:56:31 AM No.4435970
>>4435955
What the fuck are you about?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:58:33 AM No.4435973
>>4435955
What the fuck are you on about?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:26:34 AM No.4436005
woodfuji
woodfuji
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>>4435728 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:27:14 AM No.4436006
woodfuji2
woodfuji2
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>>4436005
for me, its the fuji x100s in wood
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:40:28 AM No.4436007
camera_colors
camera_colors
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>>4435728 (OP)

just buy if find nice
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:02:13 AM No.4436010
>>4435973
>he isn't american
>he doesnt follow the NYC mayoral debates
jej

>>4436006
the wood really highlights how its an asian gizmo pretending to be a camera. you can finally see its soul shine through - the soul of a tv remote.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:24:59 AM No.4436065
>>4436006
Is that unsealed bare wood?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:55:09 AM No.4436104
>>4435728 (OP)
You can still buy those point and shoots, the pro cameras like the ones below have existed alongside them since that time too. Fucking zoomers.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:30:40 PM No.4436132
>buy e-waste goyim
>it has le sovl
>it barely reaches 80% DCI-P3?
>OY VEY just consume product and get excited for next product
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:05:21 PM No.4436137
pentax-optio-nb1000-diablock-1
pentax-optio-nb1000-diablock-1
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>>4435728 (OP)
Don't forget pic related
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:12:40 PM No.4436140
>>4436137
wow so innovative and competitive definitely not a kids toy/purse charm and a predecessor to womens phone cases its actually soul
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:08:13 PM No.4436167
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>>4436137
bing bing wahoo!
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:03:27 PM No.4436179
IMG_2751
IMG_2751
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>>4435832
>>4436137
>>4436167
Pentax kings stay winning
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:45:30 PM No.4436209
Pro cameras were black back then too.

The real difference is that the crop camera market has disintegrated because of camera phones.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:04:28 AM No.4436270
>>4436209
He likely knows this already and is just baiting
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:44:12 AM No.4436409
r1
r1
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>>4436209
>>4436270
Dumb zoomers. There were many different form factors and manufacturers were experimenting and innovating back then.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:49:46 PM No.4436511
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>>4435728 (OP)
Camera skins got more accessible, just buy black and put whatever wacky color you want on it
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:53:13 PM No.4436512
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dmiq1yuem8tb1
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some brands still care
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:56:00 PM No.4436561
>>4436409
shit idea
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:02:18 AM No.4436660
FXE20012
FXE20012
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>>4436561
i thought you mongs went bananas for flippy screens?
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:11:27 AM No.4436664
>>4436660
It's stupid when it's on the top because that makes it a waist level camera by default. That's not how most pics are taken
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:22:31 AM No.4436670
>>4436664
its stupid when it's anywhere, flippy screens are a curious prop that retarts seem to think makes the camera better. just get on your knees to take the shot, fag.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:24:11 AM No.4436672
>>4436670
>wants to get on his knees
>calls me a fag
Lol you are a moron. What are you gonna do when you want to take a high angle shot or ankle level shot? I don't really get why you gear seethers make your personality about hating certain things
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:59:30 AM No.4436686
>>4436511
On a scale of 1-10 how cringe would buying something like this be