Hello anons! You might remember me from >>4425207 a while back. I have since set up some very neat desktop servers (both Synology) and I thought other anons may find this information useful.

For the storage of highly important and personal stuff, I ended up picking a "DS620slim" filled with SSDs (for low-noise and compactness). With 6x 4TB drives in RAID6, I have 16 TB (14.5 TiB) to work with which can be easily mirrored onto a "portable" external HDD. For the time being, I'm using an 8TB portable SSD and a 16TB external HDD as backups. The HDD is powered off for most of the time to reduce noise, and the portable SSD is used as the "off-site" backup (easily accessible, travels with me). Eventually, I'll need a 16TB SSD as the amount of data stored increases, but unfortunately there are no well-tested consumer products with that capacity in current year. If I end up needing more space for backups, I'll probably just use two 8TB portable SSDs.

Additionally, I've also built a much larger HDD array for a lot of the "bulky" data I work with (non-p) that I'd like to be stored more reliably. I'm still a bit unsure about how I'll handle the backups for those: I plan on getting a magnetic tape drive to properly back up this data, but I also want to keep a third centralized copy somehow. Any suggestions? I suppose I could pay money for "cloud" storage, but at that point, I suspect it'd be more cost-effective to simply built a second server at another location and mirror the data. Currently the server functions as a "backup" for a bunch of DAS, so it's not the only copy.

The whole process of setting these things up was surprisingly user-friendly. I feel a little silly for being intimidated by it. My main gripe is that Synology's DSM (server OS) gets upset when you use "off-brand" drives (i.e. not "Synology" brand), so I had to use a script to disable the stupid warnings that the server spits out. Otherwise, a very handy solution. Thanks for all of your advice, anons.

>>4438395 (OP)
I feel I should also mention, the fans in both of these were pretty easy to replace. I'm a big snob when it comes to low-noise hardware, so of course I immediately replaced all of the fans with noctuas.
Of course, being the retard that I am, I accidentally bought 5V fans at first. Make sure you buy 12V fans!

>>4438395 (OP)
that's a lotta work to go through just for your porn stash anon, you know its an evergreen product, right?

Man I just use Uranium backup to shove all my shit onto an external HDD

>>4438699
Pretty sure uranium is ransomware lol. It's only ever shilled by bots online
There are more popular and tested tools online that achieve the same thing, if not better.

>>4438723
>ransomware
how?

>>4438734
What do you mean how? I'm not installing it to find out.

>>4438743
So you're just saying random things?

>>4438744
No, I'm stating my observations. Nobody uses "Uranium Backup" and the only people who talk about it on the net are obvious shills and automated posters. Overall a big red flag.
Just use something with a decent reputation, like Synology or Veam

Why are you so motivated to defend some software?

>>4438750
I'm not defending it I'm asking you why it's a problem. I found it after some research. I just wanted an automated way to copy and paste files

>>4438752
Sounds like you did a dogshit job researching it if you ended up with that, of all things, instead of the usual options like FFS

>>4438754
well it works for me. You kept saying it's shit but you said you never even used it. All I wanted was something that copies my files. I don't need or want any features

>>4438756
I didn't say it was shit, I said it was shady. There are a plethora of alternatives.

>>4438761
Do you think it's dangerous if it's not compressing the files into some proprietary bullshit file?

>>4438762
What the fuck are you talking about?

>magnetic tape drive
by far the cheapest and best solution
but you have to pay $8000 for a modern tape drive

>>4438763
seems like you don't really know about anything

>>4438752
>I just wanted an automated way to copy and paste files
okay here's what you do
You select the files
then you press ctrl+C
then you go into the DIR of the backup system
press ctrl+V

>>4438764
I'm currently eyeing a MagStor desktop drive, actually, and they seem to be relatively inexpensive (~$5000) compared to fancier ones or tape libraries. Not sure how good/bad they are; haven't finished perusing the net for info. I'm not yet certain on the tape format either.
Can't say the price is too unreasonable, especially when paying for cloud storage would be even more expensive and it's dirt-cheap (as you said, as well) compared to constructing and maintaining a duplicate server.
>>4438769
I'm afraid you're either a shill and/or retarded. Can you communicate coherently for once?
>>4438772
But how else will Rishi get his daily bread through shitcoins and roblox gift cards??

>>4438772
why would I do it manually when I can have something do it for me?
>>4438776
Some softwares compress your backups into a proprietary compressed file. Are you aware of this?

>>4438776
LTO-9 seems to be the only reasonable option to backup video footage desu
>>4438782
You could just have Gemini or some other LLM do all your work for you at that point, and not have some indian scammer's scamware in your computer

>>4438783
Can you tell me what the scam is so I can make an informed decision please?

>>4438772
For what it's worth, lots of software tools provide versioning, which I think is helpful
No clue what the fuck uranium backup is though lmao sounds like chinese spyware

>>4438789
Yeah but you can just use something that's actually good and open source. If you need GUI because small brain just use Duplicati

>>4438782
Some, yes, but I'm not talking about those that do.
>>4438783
Yeah, LTO9 seems to be the latest, so I'll likely pick that. The hardware cost isn't that prohibitive, especially when the difference is so relatively small. I'm mostly after the future-proofing, speed, and tape capacity. What makes them "better for video files"? I'm unaware of any benefit (besides just being bigger and faster).
I've also considered getting an older library for cheap, but I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be working with old hardware that I'm unfamiliar with.

>>4438803
>What makes them "better for video files"?
they're the most cost effective storage on the market and last for 30 years
If you're storage hundreds or thousands of terabytes nothing can beat tape drives

>>4438807
>nothing can beat tape drives
Oh, of course. I was thinking you meant the LTO-9 standard in particular (over LTO-8, for example).
I'm not storing many video files though. Just massive amounts of data.

>>4438699
I >>4438789 did some research on uranium backup. Seems like they're just a small italian startup from a decade ago selling an enterprise solution. hardly appropriate for personal use (like cloning a HDD lol) but I'm sure it probably does what it claims to do.
I still don't think I'd trust it for personal use simply because it has a limited userbase, especially when there are far better options out there. The way they use actual paid shills on Reddit also really rubs me the wrong way.

>>4438395 (OP)
Hello anon. I was back-and-forthing with your in that thread couple months ago.
I'm glad things went well. You've gone a level of autistic over this that isn't too bad and looks like you kept within budget. Couple things I'll say on the matter:
>The HDD is powered off for most of the time to reduce noise
Depending on how often you're power cycling the disk, it is likely more wear on it versus just leaving it running fyi. Just keep that in mind for your replacement interval (3-6 years).
>...I suspect it'd be more cost-effective to simply built a second server at another location and mirror the data
If you have a mate that has a NAS as well, you can partition off a small chunk for each of you so you can both store the important stuff at each-other's server location. A very convenient way to have that offsite backup for the important things. It's slightly involved to setup though, so it might be more hassle than it is worth.
>I suppose I could pay money for "cloud" storage
Long-term will cost you more versus self-hosted, but I will admit the convenience is there. I'm a mega sperg about data privacy though, so no bueno for me.

>>4438886
>I'm a mega sperg about data privacy though
maybe you should stop fucking kids just a thought

>>4438887
What the fuck. What is wrong with you?

>>4438889
What, are you going to accuse me of being pedophobic against you?

>>4438887
>Data privacy is for pedos
And anyone who questions the government

2 more weeks (3 days) until americans start losing their citizenship for opposing a specific country

>>4438892
>And anyone who questions the government
I mean that's objectively morally worse than pedophilia. Anyone who questions the government should be executed, obviously.

>>4438891
No, you retard. That's a disgusting thought. Fuck off to /b/ with that shit pedo shit. I just don't trust any random compay to not leak my address and go "whoopsie, oh well".

>>4438894
You know you're being so defensive that it's 100% certain you are in fact a pedophile. A normal person who isn't a pedophile would just dismiss accusations of them being a pedophile. You need to be investigated.

>>4438897
Actually, he’s a fedophile. He has over 9001 AOC nudes and i dont mean age of consent

How do i know? I gave them to him

>>4438887
Sounds like a whole lotta projection to me

>>4438886
Data privacy is definitely important, for sure. While everyone's arguing about it, one of the worst things they can (and WILL) do is plant "evidence" into your personal files. CP is basically a go-to-jail free card that glowies use against people they want to van. Of course, this depends on what country you live in as well.
>likely more wear on it versus just leaving it running
I had forgotten about that, thanks for the reminder. "Fortunately" my backup schedule is pretty sparse, especially for the HDD (partially because I'm lazy), and I don't expect to use these forever. I might consider just leaving it on all of the time, though. In retrospect it isn't that loud, and I can always reduce noise in other ways (without restricting airflow, of course).
>If you have a mate
kek likely story
Certainly don't know anyone I can make hold hundreds of TB or even a few PB. That said, I might hand out backup copies of my important stuff to family. Haven't gotten around to doing that though.

>>4438995
>few PB
God damn anon how many building corner photos is that

>>4438395 (OP)
bumping a gud thred

>>4438995
>Certainly don't know anyone I can make hold hundreds of TB or even a few PB
If you were using tapes that would all fit in a shoebox. LTO-10 holds 30TB
10PB on LTO-10 will fit in a filing cabinet.

>>4445014
I'll obviously be using tapes, yeah. The main issue I have with tapes is that the data is a bit annoying/slow to access if I ever have a total server loss compared to just another server in another location. Ideally I'd like for at least one backup copy to be easy to update/access to improve the quality of the backup and reduce the downtime in the case of a catastrophic event.

For now I will just store some tape copies in a bank vault and maybe periodically update a tape copy on the other side of the country (in case there's a city-wide catastrophe that also destroys the bank). I figure it's very unlikely that I ever have a total loss of the server, yet also need a copy ASAP.

>>4438396
>I thought I'd replace the fans with fans that move much less air, I'm sure it will be fine

What is it about noctua that compels morons to buy them? I see dumb fucks replace their fans with noctuas on 3d printers all the time, and suddenly they're getting jams and clogs because of heat creep.

Are they quiet? Sure

Are they any quieter at a given airflow rate or static pressure than any other similar size half decent fan? Marginally, or not at all.

>>4445788
I think it really depends on your cooling demands; so long as you pay attention to your temps, you should be fine. Obviously the world is full of retards who will do stuff like put them into printers, but for something like a desktop NAS, it'll be fine. I've also found that Noctuas will only really fuck with thermals once you use their "Low Noise" power adapter, which just steps down the fan power.

>>4438750
>Nobody uses "Uranium Backup" and the only people who talk about it on the net are obvious shills and automated posters. Overall a big red flag.
Lots of Italians use it, you sound like the kind of retard who thought Zoom was some revolutionary app back in the pandemic as if things like Cisco Webex and Google Meet had never existed. In fact, you probably haven't heard of Webex before. You just use whatever is most aggressively publicized to you.
I don't use or need Uranium Backup and don't know if it's better or worse than other software, but just throwing random malware accusations because you haven't heard about some highly specialized piece of software before is just ignorant. For instance, I use SciDAVis for some stuff. Most people use other solutions instead. Do you think that makes SciDAVis malware?

>>4445871
I said "people". Italians... well... They're definitely not "people"

>>4445881
Always the same thing with you people...

>>4445895
I'm just noticing patterns, sorry that you're woke.

>>4445903
So am I, what do you think I meant by "you people"? I was noticing your presence

>>4445871
Yeah, I already corrected myself when I figured out it was an Italian domestic/enterprise solution here >>4438811. Certainly not a good option for anyone outside of the country, and like I said, their online shills creep me out.

>>4445997
picrel is peak euro banter