How come we don't have a /p/ magazine/photobook or something? Every month we could give a theme and maybe people vote on what gets in, then we can publish it as a pdf for all /p/ users
I've yet to properly work out the logistics but that's what this thread is for

>>4439654 (OP)
Might be worth reaching out to collab with /gd/.

niggas broke bro

>>4439664
It would be entirely free, I just said we'd distribute it to /p/ users
It's not for profit, and entirely free, pirating and freedom use to be part of the ethos of 4chan but man...

>>4439654 (OP)
Back in the old days (not the good days because /b/ was never good), there were a few /p/ photo books put together. This is back when we had resident trip tags basically running the place, as opposed to now where it’s just like sugar being a dirty old gearfag and the occasional Burt thread. Was the photography better? Eh, hard to say, snapshot central always and forever, but some good stuff popped up here and there.

>>4439665
I apologize I thought I read in the OP you wanted to print it, yea a PDF would work. I support this idea.

>>4439663
Soulless
It'd be by /p/haggots for /p/haggots, no cross-boarding allowed

>>4439654 (OP)
We've had a few /p/ books in the past, but we can't even organize challenge threads anymore

I thought this was a gear and seeth board

A photo of mine got into a /lit/ digital magazine once, so that’s nice

>>4439685
We actually care about the board topic, this isn't fucking no games /v/

>>4439663
/gd/ is pretty dead.
/lit/ or /ic/ would be better.

>>4439654 (OP)
Because I'm not interested in your photography. I'm interested in your point of view on aesthetics, on technique, tips&tricks, gear discussions etc. But not in your work.

I like my own work and gift some large prints to friends and family e.g. after we've been on a trip together.

But I'm not interested in the prints that you guys gift (or send digitally) to the people in your lives. Also 4channers generally are pathetic losers irl.

>>4439733
Then you won't be a part of it or read it lil bitch faggot
This will be for people who actually care

>>4439654 (OP)
I could take a pic of some eggs for it if you wanted.

>>4439741
but like who. Literally everyone on this board thinks like that. You're alone.

>>4439749
>literally everyone is me
Based schizoid I AM IN YOUR WALLS I AM IN YOUR WALLS IN AM IN YOUR WALLS 175965960854195

>>4439749
I like seeing other people's pics and sharing mine. It's fun to talk about them, but no one else really likes to. :(

>>4439733
Nobody is interested in anyones photography except for money launderers and jews

Photography has been an aborted art since the very beginning. It was a novelty until the 70s and since then it's been masturbatory with some rabbi rambling about intersectional representations, climate change, war, and the human-"something" to try and explain why paying $40,000 for a photo of a red wall has no connection to money laundering. The only real significance of any photo is purely personal and historical. Sometimes it's corny interior decor but it's about as art as the live laugh love sticker.

>>4439802
Postcards.

>>4439802
how's highschool?

>>4439836
Actually, you first learn that photography is fundamentally incapable of being fine art in college. And also that pretending it is, is nothing more than a form of class signaling, which is why "photographers" get so salty when you point that their "art" is just expensively preserved snapshots.

>>4439839
Prove it

>>4439848
>Tell brainlet to read a book
>"Do you have a source for that"
Read the book nigga.

>>4439849
No. You tell me. I'm not reading your gay books. I'll argue with you about it right here right now.

>>4439654 (OP)
Cool idea.
I'm in

>>4439860
What's your pic going to be of?

I like the idea, but I'm unsure how this doesn't just turn into
>NO, that's a SHIT photo. Why put that in?
>Street photography doesn't count
>green tinted snoy detected
>you're a retard your vote doesn't count
etc.

>>4439666

I have a copy of the first one and I believe I was in every /p/hotobook that was printed, I know I was in the first one for sure, it's been a while.

Those WERE the days, there's a lot of you that weren't here for the PhotoshopR threads where he actually taught you shit. Alex Burke had a different thread up every couple of weeks that talked about Photoshop layering and how he processed his slide scans. People learned shit here and applied it. Even I learned a few things.

Then I had the challenge threads, which got trolled, then another anon did the challenge threads and wasn't trolled. I had a continuous Sugar Thread up for like 3 years. It's not just rose-tinted glasses, /p/ used to actually be better. I remember looking forward to LAiN's red sunset threads and Bassackwards drunk ramblings, I miss him, I know he's probably dead but wherever he is I hope he is at peace.

I think the beginning of the end was when the faggot jannies slapped PhotoshopR on the pp I can't remember why but it was something dumb. That ended his stream of knowledge and he just kind of fucked off. And one by one people just started leaving, some I'm sure found girlfriends and started families and photography had to vie for a portion of their time, most of us grew old and life got busy.

Now it's just trolling, dumb ass memes and shitty gear threads I genuinely don't know why I've stayed around.

Maybe it's my time to finally go.

>>4439866
If you're making the book you take submissions, and choose the ones you want in book.

I will seethe when my egg picture is not chosen to be in the book.

>>4439867

I almost forget we had a Traveling Camera, two of them, a European one which I never got, and an American one I did, which naturally got stolen somewhere in CA.

You used to not suck /p/.

>>4439867
Fuckin sucks because shit like this is interesting and would add to the board, but will likely get dicked on by all the nophoto gearwar fags.

I wish I was around for this mythical time you mentioned. I want to get better. I want to try new things. I want people better and smarter than me to chime in and encourage us all to pull ourselves up so we can enjoy the hobby to its fullest. Instead, you get the bottom rung of retards pulling everyone else down.

>>4439867
>>4439872
The internet in general became shitty somewhere around 2016, too many people, too many corporations, too many tryhards taking moderating too seriously. I wasn't here on /p/ during that time but I've seen other communities go through the same thing, the closest thing there is to that vibe is small Discord servers I guess.

>>4439872

It's not just /p/ I think since COVID there was been a general apathetic outlook toward life specifically by younger people. Like why even try anymore.

COVID was a huge paradigm shift in everything, culture, politics, online life, it all changed. /p/ changed before all of this but I think that was the nail in the coffin, everyone moved on to bigger and better and left this place, people don't network and connect to do shit anymore they all just sit in front of their phones all day looking at brain rot and never make an effort to live life anymore.

Like even when I was in Utah last year doing my landscape work people were glued to their phones I could see it in their cars and in tour buses and stuff, especially the Americans they were just sucked into their phones. I don't know anymore, it can't be like this forever. Not everything is enshittified.

>>4439872
It's literally 3 people ruining /p/ (husky cucker, shepherd fucker, and corgi sucker). Once we can return to being a cat photo board on a cat website and send the doggots to reddit we will know quality posts again.

>>4439875

I tend to agree here with this as well, the Internet started being very heavily monetized by corporate and political interests around this time. It wasn't a place anymore, it was a thing that followed you everywhere and invaded every aspect of your life.

I also think the social media takeover is partially to blame, lots of clout chasing and people doing shit for the 'gram and no longer answering a higher calling of life and self-fulfillment. I did the American Traveling Camera for /p/ not because internet points but I wanted to give something back to the community I learned so much from.

>>4439876
All the boards I frequent have gone downhill, especially ck.

There's a weird amount of people here that seem to hate photography.

>>4439867
>>4439872
>>4439875
Be the change you want to see, lads. The board used to know how to ignore trolls and shitposts. Now engagement is driven by rage and that culture has rubbed off here. Just hold your head high, contribute, and be humble.

>>4439881

I used to lurk the /tpg/ threads in /g/ and even those have gone downhill.

>>4439876
>like even when I was in Utah last year doing my landscape work people were glued to their phones I could see it in their cars and in tour buses and stuff
M8 I see this everywhere in Australia too. The old people stopped giving a fuck and the youngest never did. Sometimes I find these rare middle-aged people that actually try and experience life properly but the age gap is too much to make proper friends with them. I go to these events, or bushwalking, or to the races, and everyone is just vlogging and snapshitting for their shitty instagram or twitter. Everyone wants to be internet famous, and for what?
>>4439881
The only board I frequent that hasn't dropped massively in quality is /o/, which I understand is probably one of the most resilient topics.
>>4439885
Trying. I'm not great by any means, but at least I'm taking photos and giving it a go.

On a lighter note, I've been enjoying the anon doing historical photographer threads. I'd like to see more threads dedicated to post-processing, practicing compositions, or even bring back the roll thread. Maybe narrow that last one down so instead of having 100 topics, we rotate 5 or 10 more broad ones to more easily drive engagement.

>>4439885
So true. It is fun, but selfish fun. Sharing pics is more fun so it is okay.

>>4439885
Funny but it only works if others who desire change collaborate. I’ve made countless photo threads as well as generals and the interaction on these is almost none compared to the gear oriented ones

>>4439895
Gear is easy to engage in conversation with because it takes so little effort. Ergo, the engagement ratios will not change without a rule in place that is actually enforced by the jannies. Afaik we only have one and I genuinely don't know if they do anything outside of ban the most egregious fuckwits.
I'd love a rule enstating that gear discussion must stay in a pinned gear thread, but it'll never happen because it wouldn't actually increase the quality of engagement, it would just half the amount of it.

>>4439900
why is there an ominous dark aura on the right side

>>4439749
yeah anon seeing people screech about m43, sony and dogs is just so much fun

Look anon if you're going to do it just do it. Don't make a thread about maybe doing it. I will send you a picture. Set up a basic format thing in photoshop with a few words if the beginning. Keep it simple

>>4439903
It was raining off to the right side of the frame. Also, religion bad or something.

>>4439900
Gear and photography are immutably intermixed, you cannot have any meaningful discussion of one without the other, no matter how much “true artiste” types may hate gear chat.

>>4439971
Gear deserves some talk but here it far supersedes photos. Gear becomes irrelevant without the thing it actually produces

I'm pumped about your idea, let's do it, anon.

>>4439971
Yes this is why famous photographers are remembered by the gear they used. Are you retarded? Without looking it up what gear did Ansel Addams use? Was he shooting the latest Nikkor glass of his time?

i have some experience designing and producing photobooks in college, for my own work and others. if we get a civil thread going without ppl being assholes then id be willing to spend some in in InDesign and whip something up. Maybe we could try to have a 1-2 image per person rule?

>>4439971
no you can definitely have a lot of meaningful discussion of photography without touching gear. it may be hard to believe if you spend time here, but technique, presentation, and concept are also components of photography. gear should constitute a minority of discussion
>>4439749
me
>>4439654 (OP)
that sounds cool. i wonder if there would be enough photos for a monthly.. depending on the breadth of the themes, maybe quarterly would be better.

>>4439993
>if we get a civil thread going without ppl being assholes
This is 4chan anon, be prepared anyway.

Obviously tripfags will not be allowed to submit, as tripfagging is against 4chan culture

>>4439993
Great initiative
Someone should make a thread, decide on a theme and outline some basic rules/guidelines

>>4439867
>Bass is probably dead
Holy shit that hadn’t occurred to me. Well that’s a fun way to ruin my morning.

>>4439839
What is art anyways?

>>4439749
There's no need to project your misery, faggot.

>>4440086
baby don't hurt me

>>4439993
people will try to derail the thread. Just do it if you'll do it

>>4439974
I love talking about gear at my local camera club. Passionate dudes, eccentric antique collectors, and rich boomers. It's awesome. Only here is it so mean spirited.
>>4439977
>>4439906
Agreed. Ask for submissions. Drop a vibe: music, movie, photos, poetry, whatever, then set a deadline.

>>4439993
Do it. If more people put their money where their mouth is this board wouldn't be such a hellscape.
We might want a seperate thread for the actual submissions at this rate though.
>>4440084
A specific theme might cut down on the engagement a bit much. I'd rather the first go at this be just what you think your nicest photo is or something you're proud of etc.
I know for a fact that if the theme is street, I'm basically fucked, but plenty of anons only do that. It might mean the photobook is less cohesive than intended but I'd rather get something on the table than have the project shelved due to low interest.

I had similar issues when I used to admin for my university's drama club. Everyone wanted to do something niche they were interested in and suddenly very few memebers gave a fuck about the project at hand. The other admins and I had to encourage more generic, shorter things that were less impressive, but we started putting out actual content which increased engagement and membership. Go figure.

>>4440179
fuck, I meant to tag >>4440083

>>4440179
A concept could be fun and include a lot of various styles of photography.

Something simple like "blue" or "sphere" or "darkness" It allows for a lot of interesting and unique interpretations while creating at least some cohesion between all the pictures.

>>4439654 (OP)
I've thought about this before. I think it could be cool, why not try it?

>>4440083
why not just use this thread? We're under 70 posts in

>>4440179
we don't need a theme, let's just throw some shit together

Some rules I want
>no mentioning gear
>torn on whether to include settings
>thinking maybe people can submit with a 2-3 sentence blurb about the photo

>>4440677
>yes
>honestly, it's superfluous
>I think it's best to let people interpret things their waay.