Is there such thing as an affordable, high image quality even in low light, durable for warzones camera for the layman?
I've realised that's all I want
Quality and durability

>>4442503 (OP)
Sony a7c

>>4442505
no meme answers

>>4442507
Sony a7cii

>>4442503 (OP)
Canon for durability.
Dont listen to these >>4442505 >>4442508 unless you want a camera that will fall apart if you simply just sneeze at it.

>>4442503 (OP)
nikon/pentax dslrs for durable and dirt cheap to the point of being disposable

olympus e-m1 and e-m1ii if you want something modern with similar bulletproof build as older nikon and pentax stuff.

modern mirrorless stuff from sony/canon/nikon doesn't have good build quality so you can't really have what you want without compromising on image quality in some way.

>>4442503 (OP)
Sony

Only /p/ hates it (the local sony hater is a half chinese dweeb named clive) so you know its good
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaryZcOcnJ4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m-VDIEpGZ1c

>>4442513
This nigga lyin
https://archive.palanq.win/p/thread/4441351/#4441637

>>4442515
What kind of white ass name is Clive for a Chinese person

>>4442503 (OP)
Olympus
>Olympus (now OM System) has a strong reputation for producing durable cameras, particularly with their Micro Four Thirds system. Their cameras, like the E-M1 and the OM-5, are known for excellent weather sealing, making them suitable for harsh conditions.

>>4442516
in terms of build quality sony is easily the worst brand of all selling new bodies rn.

they are popular because they won the race to deliver a non-cucked mirrorless system over the dinosaur brands, otherwise they're nothing to write home about.

>>4442503 (OP)
Canon or Nikon is the only correct answer. Pick your poison.

>>4442505
>>4442508
I tested both of these for reliability in extreme conditions, they were both trash. I threw them into my swimming pool and then took them out 3 months later. They didn't work anymore.

>>4442519
Thats because Sony is a consumer electronics company. They arent made to be durable or last long term.

Definitely sony

https://petapixel.com/2024/09/18/sony-again-claims-the-1-spot-in-the-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-market/
https://www.photoxels.com/sony-strikes-another-5th-news-agency-win-reuters-decides-on-sony-a7s-iii-and-pxw-z280-as-their-journalists-main-shooting-kit/
https://www.photoxels.com/britains-pa-media-group-selects-sony-alpha-full-frame-mirrorless-cameras-and-cinema-line-camera-fx3-as-preferred-equipment/
https://www.photoxels.com/fourth-win-sony-strikes-deal-with-the-canadian-press-to-be-its-exclusive-image-products-provider/
https://www.photoxels.com/gannett-usa-today-selects-sony-as-exclusive-imaging-product-provider-for-their-photographers-and-journalists/
https://www.ap.org/media-center/press-releases/2020/ap-to-equip-all-visual-journalists-globally-with-sony-imaging-products/
/p/ is just assmad sony beat all their favorite brands on /p/ because they’re literal children from /v/

sony makes the best tool
if you want to larp or impress people buy a leica or hasselblad. 500cs and m4s are cheap.

>>4442537
Sony falls apart after 2 to 10 hours of casual use. The dials and buttons pop off, the screens crack or shatter, and the e-mount will rip itself out of the frame and just break randomly. They are cheap chinese made mass produced bottom of the barrel quality cameras sold at insane markup. Did you know it only costs $50 to produce a Sony a7rv in a factory? That's right.

Nikon Zf.
Nice metal body, decently priced, Nikon lenses are nice, and there are cheap Chinese options if you prefer that.

>>4442540
Good morning sir

>>4442541
>and there are cheap Chinese options if you prefer that.
Sounds like a Sony then, no thanks.

>>4442541
Now this camera is a work of art. It does everything better than a Sony. a7cr and for a cheaper price and insanely high quality

>>4442545
Thats what happens when you dont make your bodies with all entry level tier build quality.

>>4442548
And as an added bonus nikkon don't make people look like shrek.

Rajesh, please stop samefagging

>>4442550
This. Nobody is falling for your snoy meme camera.

>>4442550
Nobody is samefagging. Other than you sony paid shills everyone here knows sony is bottom of the barrel lowest quality trash made in chinese factory by children engineered by subhuman retards

>>4442543
You don't have to buy them.
And unlike Sony's "mature" lens lineup, you don't have 5000 ancient lens models with shit optical designs.

All the Nikon FF Z-mount lenses are good to excellent, and even the cheapo 3rd party shit outperforms some of Sony's ancient, overpriced slop they never update.

>>4442503 (OP)
Make a pinhole camera out of a titanium box.

>>4442541
2nd this, can always add a grip or case if the bottom plate is a worry
Mines held up great through downpours

Okay guys so maybe I need to be more clear. I need the camera to be bullet proof and to withstand a direct hit from a nuclear warhead. What are my options?

>>4442558
R3 / R1 / Z9

You should look at what actual warzone photographers use though

>>4442558
See >>4442521

>>4442559
>Read half a dozen recent articles by war photographers
>Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm, Lumix, even Leica gets a mention
>Not a single instance of Sony
Lol, lmao even.

>>4442566
nobody wants to show their war photos and everyone is shrek

Olympus or Pentax
The other brands are for studiofags or tards that only take photos on bright days

>>4442537
>sony makes the best tool

>>4442573
What camera should I get that will survive being hit with a hammer like this one was?

>>4442582
Fully articulating screen, turned inward to face the body.

>>4442584
oh, so a sony a7rv?
got it

>>4442589
Nice try Ranjeet

>>4442509
Second. If it were me it would be a 1DX, probably the first cus its quite cheap now, but the other two are really good too, just more expensive.

>>4442518
Em1x seems like a good choice.

>>4442503 (OP)
D800, since 2012.

>>4442593
Based.

>>4442593
Why are cameras this old still nearly $1k?

>>4442597
because they're insanely high quality and last 1000 years, wheras a snoy camera lasts 1 month tops

>>4442597
It launched at $3k and the pictures you can get out of it are just as good as when it released
When compared to more expensive and modern cameras, it's really not that far behind in terms of performance

>>4442503 (OP)
this is a skill issue, not a camera issue

>>4442597
>>4442599
More like because your market is fucking garbage, D800/810s are $5-600 all day long. D750s are reaching $1000 and 850s are a little more.

>>4442597
Because you are a europoor? They’re $350 in the first world.
These old nikon dslrs are garbage. Slow autofocus, mirror shake issues (bad damping), and the grips fall off. Or buy a d810/d750 and the plastic lens mount breaks off and the shutter fails.

>>4442649
D750s are <$500

>>4442653
>Or buy a d810/d750 and the plastic lens mount breaks off and the shutter fails.
stop using your camera to kill zombies

>>4442503 (OP)

>>4442503 (OP)
i cam back from dusty area. Then literally for a few seconds rinsed camera in sink. Lwt it dry. worked again
Canon90d

>>4442649
>D750s are reaching $1000
Which is pretty crazy considering they dipped to $1000 new in '19

>>4442663
Europoor prices. A sony a7iii is $2k for them. Meanwhile in the US a sony a7iii is $800 on fb market.

>>4442503 (OP)
Most photojournalists who need to cover serious shit, in the shit, shoot sony (any) or canon (pro models only, crop models and the rp/r8 are purposefully poorly made)

If you're doing it for personal vanity choose any other brand because other brands have more larp cred. Nikon pairs well with a khaki vest if you want to pretend. Leica with a denim jacket. Hasselblad with a tophat and monocle.

>>4442665
No I'm just retarded. D750/800/810 and 5D Mark 3 is closer to $4-600; D850 and 5D Mark IV is $1000+ though.

Canon RP is $5-600 too.

>>4442672
>5dIV is $1000+
Because RF L lenses are absurdly overpriced and RF pro bodies have a lot of reliability issues, so people are still unironically using them. Non-L RF lenses arent even weather sealed nor do they come with lens hoods. Non-pro RF bodies are purposefully poorly made.

You never hear about this shit on /p/ because /p/ is actually a marketing war between a canon shill, a panasonic shill, and a sony shill. All professional jeets making less than $1 per post. None of them are aware of the reality of cameras.

but sony does have #1 in the FF market, mostly because they don't suck as bad as canon, but now that nikon fixed their autofocus there is legitimately an alternative to sony.

>>4442677
every canon release in recent memory has had issues and no recall
>5div sensor failure
>eos r motherboard failure
>r6ii shutter and motherboard failure
>r5ii defective firmware/err 70/screen cutting out
"prease send to canon pro services, gaijin"
sony is also starting to return to being canon-like
>a7cii/a7cr SD seal flaking off
>a1/a7rv firmware bricking similar to r5ii bricking OOTB
no recalls, just "please send it in we wont charge you that much"

to date ONLY nikon has actually done free repairs for their fuckups

>>4442677
Jesus
https://petapixel.com/2023/02/26/my-strange-ongoing-troubles-with-the-canon-r5/
https://fstoppers.com/reviews/hey-canon-why-are-your-cameras-falling-apart-636447
https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/threads/eos-r5-freeze-lock-up-issues.39459/
https://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/88441-canon-r5-mark-ii-firmware-problems/
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4587704

Canon = sony but blob

>malding snoy schizo talking to himself again
Just get a Canon or Nikon, OP. There's a reason they've been around for decades.

>>4442503 (OP)
>affordable
Yes
>high image quality even in low light
Camera flash, bring your own light
>durable for warzones
You will be turned into pink mist and ground meat in an actual war. Modern war is a propaganda machine, photographers are not in actual danger. Just use your strap and don't drop the camera and you're fine.
If you need added ruggedization you can put the camera in a cage to protect it from bumping into things or add waterproofing.

You can do all of this with a used DSLR for under $100,000 total with custom hardware.

>>4442515
>>4442516
>>4442537
>>4442683
Nice facts

Sony it is

>>4442861
Ranjeet pls go

>>4442861
Hello saar
you paid good today to shill sony?

>>4442861
This board is finished, it's filled with paid shills like this. Nobody would willingly buy a sony. They shrekify people

lots of Canons were used at least couple of years ago by world famous, awarded photojournalists

>>4442875

https://www.thephoblographer.com/2023/03/29/the-gear-used-by-world-press-photo-2023-regional-winners/

>>4442876
>8 of the 11 winners were photographed by a Canon
>meanwhile anon on /p/: snoy numba 1 most sold in ff market!
Oh no no no

>>4442878
It's all one Indian guy named Rajeesh who is paid by Sony to shill here. Nobody uses sony irl, the company is almost bankrupt.

>>4442876
This is like saying
>well the best paintings of 2023 were made with paint brushes bought at walmart so walmart paint brushes are obviously the highest quality
i think it's more likely that these cheap ass jews are penny pinching

>>4442878
Honestly one major reason is probably Canon Professional Services. When you’re a pro, reliability is far more important than specs, and CPS goes a long ways to making sure you have a functioning camera in a world of limited money and entropy.

So recs for a Canon camera that's light and portable enough to be a genuine carry everywhere with only a prime and a zoom, but is also durable enough for the apocalypse and takes high quality images?

>>4442890
those requirements are conflicting

>>4442537
i hope sony pays you for this bro

>>4442890
buy canon 5dmk3 + 50 1,4 + 24-105 and fuck off with the larping

>>4443438
>noooo you can't want actual durability it's a larp no one goes outside larp

>>4442503 (OP)
A DSLR is what you want when the push comes to shove, not mirrorless scameras designed with limp-wristed, lisp-voiced faggots in mind.

>>4442537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuDAW06Og0

>>4444382
dslrs are all falling apart by now. people with real demands like AP photographers use sony.

>>4444470
AP Photographers get their cameras for free, everyone else has to pay actual money. They're not getting shitty consumer grade A7s either.

>>4444471
they are literally using the a7iv. its why its one of the cameras that got c2pa support. it is much, much better made than the compacts and the a7iii.

>>4444473
Nope, they're using the A9II or A1. A9II is $4500 MSRP.

>The vast majority of the stills photographers will get a9 Mark IIs. We will get some a7R IVs for the videographers, and a couple for some of our entertainment shooters who do a lot of portraits. But the standard kit will be an a9 Mark II.

https://m.dpreview.com/interviews/2999935759/interview-we-talk-to-ap-director-of-photography-about-switch-to-sony

>>4444481
I was at a parade with AP fags and two of them had a7ivs. and yes, it was a pride parade.

>>4444481
>a7R IVs for the videographers
they can't even shoot video for more than 30 minutes without exploding

the layman is not shooting wars read what you type

>>4444488
Sony cameras suck. I took my a7rv to the water park and it broke when i was taking pictures in the pool.

>>4444488
Sony camras suck. I was taking pictures at an LA riot last month and my camera broke when a police officer shot it with a live round.

>>4444485
This. Doubt theyre shooting with Sonys as they will overheat quickly in the sun.