Thread 507112518

I mean 70% of them do it for free or they volunteer as they say it??

>>507112518 (OP)
for free? i never heard of that. even in the smallest rural places anyone who joins the local fire service gets paid something for the time they are on call, even if they are working while on call.

>>507112518 (OP)
feminist women emulate their lives after the men they want to fuck.

>>507112822
Yes , they do it for free , they get benefits but they do it for free.

>>507112965
well not here. you get paid a per day amount for being on call. your employer will also obviously let you run off at a moments notice and some help out with transport and stuff. you get a special license plate for your care.

>>507112822
Our department is 100% volunteer. No pay per call or part time hours at all.

>>507113361
yeah its all volunteer here too but you get a per day amount when you're on call. i guess if you dont get anything upfront most the time people will help you out with stuff, or they should really. i know a couple guys in our local hall and their work helps them out quite a bit with stuff.

and by "on call" i mean when your pager is on and you're ready to be called to a job. you can go weeks without actually being called to a job but you're expected to be ready 24/7. you get paid for each 24 hour period on call.

>>507112518 (OP)
yeah your types were the ones who during the 1800`s destroyed all the buildings of the former people and then you retrofitted them created some fake society to confuse people

>>507113645
Most volunteer departments rely heavily on fundraisers and government grants for equipment in my neck of the woods. Community support is usually very good for the departments.

>>507112518 (OP)
While I appreciate that there are instances of dire need of these people - they're all fuckin' weirdo normie gore feeders. They thrive on regimentation, gore and status quo culture. Cliquish and hive-minded.

>>507114050
same here. there must be half a dozen firehall related fundraiser things every year - a breakfast, a yard sale, stalls at the town fair day, several floats and all the vehicles at the parade, stuff like there, plus various raffles and stuff. its a good way to do it really since its all for our area anyway.

>>507112965
>they get benefits
Participating in other's misery without having to suffer. Oh, ... and gore.

>>507114371
The day you’re in misery and have your legs nearly severed at the knee from your dash collapsing onto legs in a front end collision, you’re gonna be thankful those guys are “weird.”

>>507114193
>they're all fuckin' weirdo normie gore feeders.
hardly. the guys round here who do it are usually on teh chad end of the scale.

>>507114808
>>507114371
>>507113141
How do you become one with no school.

>>507114602
>While I appreciate that there are instances of dire need of these people ...

I know a former river rescue captain. He has great stories of the bridge jumpers. Nice guy ... but off and participates in secret society stuff. It's all very masonic. The fire emblem itself is a mason symbol. Perhaps your a mason yourself, jumping in to defend and whatnot?

>>507115021
>Oh you try and save people from a gruesome and prolonged death?
>You must rape kids or something, eh?
Do you ever get tired of being this way?

None of you are answering my question is it considered an art

>>507115569
Nobody fucking cares about your questions you lackadaisical pansy bitch
YOU'RE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET
THE FUCKING MODERN DAY LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA
FIGURE IT THE FUCK OUT YOU USELESS MOUTHBREATHING FAILED ABORTION FUCK
GOD I HATE YOU USELESS NIGGER
>erm can you tell me what X is
>Erm can you explain how I can do Y
NO
YOU KNOW WHO FUCKING CAN? THE INTERNET! OR AT LEAST YOU CAN FUCKING LOOK UP A FIRE DEPARTMENT
MAKE A FUCKING PHONE CALL (I KNOW TALKING WITH REAL PEOPLE IS SO SCAWWY BOO HOO NIGGER)
AND THEN FUCKING ASK THEM
KILL YOURSELF

>>507112518 (OP)
What is that female team's call response record?

>>507115021
The Florian Cross is hardly a masonic symbol. Look it up, it has roots in Christianity.

>>507115875
Well longer than the mean

>>507112822
volunteer means you doing it for free

>>507112518 (OP)
>I mean 70% of them do it for free
firefighters are just irl jannies

>>507114960
You call or email the fire chief at a department and ask to join. They’ll background check you and have to vote you in in some cases but most departments are undermanned severely and will likely jump on a prospective recruit asap.

>>507112518 (OP)
All you need to know about fire fighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egAMgNY84do

>>507116340
lol, that’s pretty accurate actually

>>507112518 (OP)
I'm a probationary firefighter/AEMT. I'm paid by the hour. And I'm even paid to sleep and play video games after 5 pm. (Obviously when I'm not responding to emergencies)
Would I do it for free? Yeah. But I'm not going to sit around the station for free. I'd have to have a real job. And then when there's an emergency, you'd have to wait for me to get to the station, and then wait until everyone else got there, and then we'd all drive out to help you, probably with far less skill and competence because we'd train less (we train one medical and one fire scenario every shift)
So your house would probably burn down before we got there, and you'd probably die or get a IO because none of us would be good enough to start an IV on someone in shock.

>>507116340
Man i miss old school public televisión this shit automatically boosted my testosterone.

>>507112518 (OP)
I work f/t as a FF in a metropolitan hellscape and volunteer for a county in Ontario and p/t as an ACP medic for a county mom and pop service.
Starting off as a volunteer varies anywhere from like $15-$35 and varies on experience.

The way it's done in the states is absolutely alien to me and i can't fathom or understand it for the life of me.
Here I work 7-10 days a month 24 hour shifts and the days I'm not working usually I'm working a 12 hour shift as a medic or helping my buddies do construction/reno jobs.

>>507112518 (OP)
It’s for idiots who does that shit for free in a globohomo jew country

>>507112518 (OP)
This reminds me of the town I grew up in, this was back in the aughts, some chick decided she wanted to be a “fire fighter”and after failing to pass the physical requirement sued the fire department and city for “discrimination” all the rage at the time. Due to political pressure and the law suit they allowed he to join but eventually she ended up injuring herself and some other firefighter and she sued the city again and they paid out and the towns people were pissed lol
Allowing Becky to play big girl dress up is costly

>>507112899
It’s a kind of stolen valor

firefighters are generally shitheads and pedophiles

>Tfw had aspirations of being a fire fighter growing up
>Too skelly and spergy to cut it

Being a STEMfag is okay, but i would have liked to blast hoses at burning council estate windows

>>507118382
Aren't steroids defacto legal in the UK?
My fire department is extremely competitive as far as fitness and I suspect that most of the guys are on trt, if not straight up underground roids.
>all the old guys in my department let me do a phlebotomy once a month to keep their blood pressure and iron low. Makes me really good at finding veins.

>>507118382
Most volunteers here are STEMfags, the service I work for the fire chief has a PhD. in chem kek.

Do volunteer eventually get paid or hired,

>it would be hilarious anon took 4 years off college to become a fireman, while pedrito from el salvador came in and at 6 months became a lieutenant.

>>507112518 (OP)
0/10 no tail.

>>507118987
>>507117019
>>507116877
Do volunteer eventually get paid or hired,

>it would be hilarious anon took 4 years off college to become a fireman, while pedrito from el salvador came in and at 6 months became a lieutenant

>>507121174
>that speck on the edge of the pipe bowl
Kill yourself JustPassingThrough.
KILL YOUR FUCKING SELF.
https://derpibooru.org/2065473

>>507114960
just apply. they generally always want new people. if you can do as you're told and not need telling a 3rd time you'll be just fine.

>>507116195
here you get a daily on call gratuity. and we are really one of the poorest areas in a poor province (NB). its not much, i think about $30/24 hours on call but there it is. volunteer just means you dont get an hourly wage or something.

>>507112518 (OP)
Yea i believe it could be an art

>>507112518 (OP)
autistic practice? you have no idea. chads take career route, jump through the NFPA hoops for the certz, and live an otherwise normie existence. the remaining 90% of them are autistic fucking retards that do it for free, and then, of that 90% like 10% of dudes keep the entire department going. the rest are layabouts that take up space, doubly so for any women that join. we are real life jannies.

>>507112822
We have tons of small towns and municipalities and not enough paid fire figthers to help these places out. So they rely on volunteers to help provide fire fighting services.

Bump

>>507112822
I asked for be a firefighter volunteer in 2006 when I was 19.
They contacted me in 2022 i said them
"Are you fucking kidding me?"
And closed the call

>>507126561
>>507118356
>>507117061
>no source, argument, or context
Reminder that zero effort spam persuades nobody and demoralizes nobody.

>>507116877
>none of us would be good enough to start an IV on someone in shock.
That’s dual role EMS for you. You can either be good at fire science or good at medical, not both. Every fire medic I’ve worked with only went the medical route to get into fire, and all have been overly aggressive with treatment at best or incredibly incompetent at worse. This culture of pushing for fire to be dual role needs to fucking stop, but it won’t because it’s easier for the people to support their tax dollars going to expensive fucking engines that rarely get used over actually equipping and staffing a public ambulance service instead.
>t. Paramedic that’s tired of dealing with worthless pole riders trying to crowd my box on every trauma call.

Actuall firefighter fag here. There are roughly three models for firedepartment compensation.
1. Career departments - these are what most people think of. Big cities, crews living on station for 48 or 72 hour shifts. They are paid salary with overtime opportunities.
2. Volunteer - these are 80% or more of firefighters in America. They can either do it for free OR pay-per-call where they are payed an hourly rate for any calls they make. Usually there is no one living at the station and responders respond from their homes. Monthly training and meetings are typically not paid events.
3. A combination department where some staff is career and are supplemented by volunteers.
Happy to answer questions for you fucks.

>>507112518 (OP)
>dye hair orange
>like fire
>cause we are firefight girls

female brain

>>507112518 (OP)
Neither of these women can lift a 300 lb person out of a fire and they should be doing a different job

If they tried it would take both. A guy could lift 2 300 lb people out in half the time. Women as firefighters is unsafe and inefficient azz fk

>>507132417
>happy to answer questions for you fucks
Did your platoon have their group wank session in the showers today yet, or did you settle for some light prostate play before you lounged in the recliners watching Backdraft for the 40th time?

>>507132647
Dude, if you are 300lbs your ass is staying in the fucking room until I get help to drag your fat ass out. I'm not gonna slip a fucking disk and die next to you.

>>507132852
>Platoon
Sounds like you know a lot about the fire service, faggot. Yes we all sucked each other off in the hose bed.

>>507132647
No firefighter is going to be barging into satans gaping asshole to drag out a 300 pound sack of lard by themselves. Hosedraggers are dumb, not stupidly suicidal.

>>507133055
Forced to work alongside you hose jerkers on the daily. I love and hate you fuckers equally, just don’t think departments should expect you to be EMTs/medics - let you stick to your lane and we’ll stick to ours.

>>507133224
Right back at ya buddy. No one signs up to be a firefighter so they can ride the fucking meatwaggon. I'll see your cute ass on the next lift assist.

>>507132647
Ideally, it take about 4 guys to
move a landwhale using a collapsable gurney. A lard ass human body is awkward as fuck to move.

>>507132417
Should i make a career change , from a mechanic to a fireman fighter???

>>507133384
>see your cute ass on the next lift assist
Same time same place. 3AM at the old folks apartments. I’ll bring an extra sheet, we both know she’ll be covered in shit.

>>507133421
At least four. We have megamovers for these fat fucks. You can spray the shit off of the tarps easily with a garden hose.

>>507133547
Depends on where you live and if you want money. Most volunteer departments are hurting so we take almost any retard that can pass the CPAT

>>507133547
You probably make more as a mechanic honestly unless you’re in a bigger city. Firefighters do normally get great benefits and pensions though. Keep in mind you will be aged out at a certain point so if you are pushing closer to 40 you likely won’t get in. And a lot of services you’ll be “encouraged” to get a medical cert either during your probation or to even be considered if it’s a competitive service.

>>507113141
American vs Canadian

American FD is a lot of volunteer force

>>507133547
>>507133826
>>507133841
I am 24 years old marine mechanic , currently live next to a fire station that is 0.7 miles away in central florida , i am getting back in shape and i want to become a fireman for the benefits and continue to do side work fixing boats??

>>507133643
Oh shit yeah the mansac. Best way to move that 600 pounder down three flights because OF COURSE the elevator is down again

>>507112822
What they don't tell you is the vast majority of "volunteers" are convicts who do it for a pittance on their books and some outside time.
Even funnier than that is firefighting as a profession requires being "of good moral standing" which excludes being an ex-con. So these "volunteers" are forbidden from joining the fire department after they're released from prison.

>>507134087
So Florida is a special case. Most of their 911 medical service is through fire, so you will almost be guaranteed to need your EMT as a minimum wage to get in. Getting your firefighter 1 and 2 is relatively easy, I’ve seen some complete idiots get it. The EMT is a whole different beast. You’re young enough and if you have a side hustle that’s great. Some fire services can mandate you to work hours after your shift or come in early, so I would make sure you read the fine print on that before you jump on board. Could be worth looking into at least, but unless you’re moderately intelligent and willing to learn some medical shit that EMT is a roadblock for a lot of people.

>>507132417
I just joined an EMS volunteer station, separate from firefighters station, but I assume same deal. Do you guys hate us for doing it for free? I gotta imagine it's a big reason of why EMS gets paid like shit.

>>507134389
I just passed EMT-b and as a professional doing other shit, that test was bullshit. Half the questions were nowhere near what was covered in my course books and sounded like AEMT or even paramedic. Barely passed that shit

>>507134087
Alot of guys on the volunteer departments also work part time shifts at multiple fire departments. That way you stack checks.

>>507133841
>>507133547
>>507134087
Go for it, it's the best damn job you'll ever hate. We out up with a ton of shit because at the end of the day it is just fucking cool

>>507134094
ambo boy speeks the truth, most firefighters are borderline retarded. You need the yard strength.

>>507134404
I am a dirty pay per call volley so no hate here. Just with you fucks would lift with your legs.

>>507134404
EMS gets paid shit because we have no union and there’s so many young people fresh out of high school that se they can be a hero for three months of school and jump for it. The issue now though is while EMTs aren’t hard to find advanced emergency medical is. Why go to school for the same time as an RN when you make almost half of what they make, and run harder? Yeah we get the autonomy but that can only carry you so far and burnout is real. Most medics end up transitioning out or doing contract work (like me, I work offshore rigs now). So the problem won’t be fixing itself anytime soon, especially since emergency medical is mostly done as a private agency and not a public service. I don’t give a shit about someone wanting to volunteer for EMS work, I just think you’re kinda dumb for doing it for free.

>>507134551
Haha, it’s adaptive so if you do well it WILL ask you questions beyond your level. It was actively asking me AEMT shit towards the end. Honestly that test is what gatekeeps most people. The Paramedic one was easier since there was a cap on the level of bullshit it could ask me.
But yeah, fuck the registry. Congrats on getting your EMT though

>>507134749
>dumb for doing it for free.
Sure, but I'm huwhite. Wanting to help people is a core part of who we are. This way, I feel like less of a shmuck getting taken advantage of. Sick of helping at free clinics/foodbanks to see immigrants with nicer cars/clothes getting free shit.

>>507131287
You must forgive my dalliances, for I am from Pennsylvania, where the bare minimum makes you an officer in five years or less.

>>507133060
Having experienced my fair share of well involved fires with entrapment, a 300 pound FF hauling an obviously expired 300 pound person over some burnt out joists equates to 600 pounds of dead weight in a cellar with two feet of water you have to work on getting out. Over the last few years, they've been rather hasty in dropping evac tones and cutting off the gloryhounds.

>>507112518 (OP)
imagine having a woman invade your firehouse. centuries of bros chilling and now all of a sudden everyones walking on egg shells because of these cunts who cant even do the fucking job when push comes to shove
there is no way this doesnt obliterate team spirit wherever it happens

>>507135415
>Pennsyltucky
814 here homie, do you work volunteer/rural?

>>507134749
I plan on slowly working my way up as a volunteer to AEMT and maybe years down the road, paramedic, Since AEMT is still BLS does it really make that big of a change?

>I work offshore rigs now
Fuck man, I was just day dreaming wondering if that was a thing the other day. How much does it pay? Are you sitting around most of the day on the rig? Are you part of Air evac? That sounds like a real sweet deal, getting oil rig money to do EMS level stuff.

>>507135415
> burnt out joists

Modern built OSB framed I-beam joists at that. Worst shit to have been schemed up by contractors cutting costs. Shit burns in a fraction of the time compared traditional timber.

In Oakland, Ca, it is a protected fraternity cash cow that is bleeding our city budget. They are like cops: retire early with a fat city pension. And rape the disability laws so most of them just sit on their ass and collect money. I wish I was kidding.

https://oaklandside.org/2025/06/11/oakland-budget-adopted-illegal-dumping-police
> It keeps all 25 of Oakland’s firehouses open and funds 678 police officers, a small increase in the current force.

https://www.indeed.com/career/firefighter/salaries/Oakland--CA

> Firefighter salary in Oakland, CA
> How much does a Firefighter make in Oakland, CA?
Average base salary $63,234
Pay per: Year 12% above national average.

>>507135978
63k in california seems absurdly low

All my life I didn't even try to join volunteer departments because they are so prestigious in cities I always had the impression it was impossible to get into as a white man.

>>507135567
412, 650 calls a year, in a suburban volunteer fire only department. Work is adjacent to the hall. I average 400 calls myself, with three others taking up the rest. Lots of nonsense, but a few structure fires in our district, with easily 30-40 mutual aid fire runs annually.

>>507135777
We have lots of balloon frame construction here. 100+ year old unsound houses that have cobbled on additions. Fire runs the walls and is chased up the roof often.

>>507135673
>AEMT
Just don’t. Talk to other medics, you’ll hear the same. When I finished EMT class I asked the instructor, who also taught AEMT if I should go for advanced or straight medic. Even he said just go medic. You’ll feel gimped and handcuffed if you go advanced. Can’t give Benzos for seizures, can’t use the cardiac monitor outside of transmitting and AED mode. Only supraglottic intubations, no narcs. It will suck and you’ll be kicking yourself for not going straight through. Do EMT for awhile and if you enjoy it go straight medic, you’ll thank me later.

I do four week rotations 28 days straight and then a month home. 30 an hour so I make 40 hours straight time and 44 hours over time each week. A little over 12 grand a rotation and then I’m home for a month and can choose to pick up with my local service if I want some excitement.

>Fairfax VA

The fed posters really are trying hard

>>507135978
I’ve seen medical contracts in California that offer a 50k sign on (Falck) for two years and 55/for paramedic and even THAT seems too low for California. 63k seems like poverty wages for CA

>>507136406
Good eye

>>507134660
>>507134572
>>507134389
Im doing it im in the same

>>507132389
>That’s dual role EMS for you. You can either be good at fire science or good at medical,
Bullshit. I do fine with both

Im doing it

>>507136327
Thanks, that sounds like good advice down the road.

What do you actually do on the rig? Are you busy all shift? Financially are we talking finally over 100k since it's on a rig?

>>507116877
>(we train one medical and one fire scenario every shift)
That actually is a really good idea. My volunteer station does not do that, we just sit around, I might suggest this to the medical director. Anonymously of course, because everybody would fucking hate having to actually do something.

>>507136671
>consolidated 10 volunteer departments
F, you’re gonna get your asshole reamed with calls. Good luck anon

>>507132389
>t. Paramedic that’s tired of dealing with worthless pole riders trying to crowd my box on every trauma call.
How is it they can get a ladder truck with eight fully geared assholes to grandma's retirement home before two assholes can drive a van there every single time

>>507136731
Over a year it’s more like 70-80. I also dual role with coordinating the helicopter landing, but certainly not busy.
Especially when you compare to how I’d run for 19-20 hours out of a 24 and come home with 7 tripsheets to do while I’m off before I have to come back in and do it again in two days. It absolutely beats during 911 for a living. There’s a reason the EMS attrition rate is around 7 years

>>507130043
>flag
I wish I were surprised. You'll get recruited by the police in the next five years.

>>507137116
There’s a secret to it
The secret is why drive slow so fire can hopefully cancel us en route or already have her picked up before we get there
Shhhhh, don’t tell anyone

>>507112518 (OP)
Here, it is one of the best professions available. They literally work 2 days a week and get paid more than the average person makes. I'm not kidding. That's why it's hard to get into, they have to study and try for years, and even then there's an element of luck to becoming a firefighter in Spain.

>>507137394
I work in transport I already knew the answer. If you guys tried to move faster you'd just drop your mickeys.

>>507137283
>I also dual role with coordinating the helicopter landing, but certainly not busy.
I've been wanting this specific job, can you give me a generic job title to look for? And they're mostly combined medic roles?

>>507112518 (OP)
its a fraudulent racket in metro areas
those guys make 200k+ and basically do nothing
small towns have volunteer mostly except for a chief who makes 150k a year doing nothing

>>507135978
there is no way they make 63k in California

>if you only knew how bad things really are
this list is hundreds and hundreds of people long at these salaries

>>507112518 (OP)
Hell yeah! Women make the best firefighters, I mean who else besides men are stronger than women??? NOBODY, chuds.

>>507137712
On one hand I don’t want to give it away because there aren’t a huge amount of jobs and I gobble these contracts up. That said I’m always willing to help a fellow EMS brother out.

Offshore Medic, or Rig medic. You can find them on indeed or job boards. The issue is you need to be National registry if you’re US, not sure what the equivalent is in Canada - but you need to be able to operate under your full scope, and able to get reciprocity for the state you’re based out of (many of these jobs are based out of Louisiana. They often want a course called BOSIET/HUET which is about two grand if you pay for it on your own. Five years experience, ACLS of course and many also want you to get a TWIC or a mariners card. Not sure if it’s the same in Canada but it is a physical where the e physician says you are healthy enough to go offshore. Having courses and certs in Helicopter Landing Officer or HSE helps big time but most of those can be done online.
Being Nationally registered and having BOSIET/HUET are big limiting factors. The biggest is that most of these jobs say Prior offshore experience requires. You can get around this by doing remote contracts in austere locations, but they won’t take the average ditch doctor fresh off the streets without some of those extra certs under your belt. Best of luck my Canadian bretheren

>>507112899
women don't fuck, men fuck, men are fuckers, women are fuckees (on receiving end of the fuck), simple as

>>507139290
appreciate the info bro

Man i guess its worth it in the end

Recently retired Florida ff/medic the klan ran the vollies in the 70's, arson kept them in business, toys for tots scam. The Masons took over and got control, just as corrupt but cleaner. Women in EMS sure, firefighting, no

Why is IFT work so based bros?

Bumo

>>507141394
Spoken like a true EMT-B

Seems like an honest job