Thread 507125600

If these 3 states decide to break from the union and become their own country?

>>507125600 (OP)
Greater Cascadia

Stop playing Kasierreich/TFR

>>507125600 (OP)
https://youtu.be/8iJMOBcPQyg

>>507125600 (OP)
thank fucking god we don't need them

>>507125600 (OP)
we're not gonna, grow up

They would easily destroy the rest in a war. Prove me wrong.

Pro tip: You can't.

>>507125600 (OP)
They can't. The civil war ended the possibility of secession other than those states getting permission to leave which would never happen.

>>507125600 (OP)
picrel, except we do what would she have done to the south, aka complete extermination.
democrats lost the first time and they'll lose again

>>507125600 (OP)
They become even bigger shitholes. Im actually all for it.

>>507125600 (OP)
LOL, their politicians would be arrested and tried for treason.
There are legal ways to make a new state, but not to leave the union.
Look up New California. Just like West Virginia used to be part of Virginia, New California is already being formed and prepared to leave California, all legally.

>>507125600 (OP)
Eastern and more rural regions of all 3 states start an insurgency backed by the US as they get invaded. We settled this question in 1865. You don’t get to just leave the Union. Sorry faggots.

>>507125600 (OP)
simple: we dont allow them to. they can leave but they arent taking our clay with them.

>>507125600 (OP)
Hopefully southern states would follow and form their own union. The Federal government has way too much power.

>>507125600 (OP)
Eastern WA would break away again to be free from Seattle governance.

>>507125600 (OP)
you end up losing like half of your gdp and market, also like half of your population alongside around half of your taxpayer.

They would be annexed by the us

>>507125912
Nigger YOU ARE THE CONFEDERATES

>>507125600 (OP)
>states
You mean hand full of cities? They'll die when they're cut off from utilities and food plus medicine and won't do shit retard.

>>507125600 (OP)
we bomb them for treason and cut their water off

>>507125923
I always find it cute when people who live in shithole southern and midwestern state have to project and act like the west coast doesnt have some of the most beautiful cities and landscapes in the country (excluding most of LA).

Its just our people that suck.

>>507126088
>the war was over states rights! not slavery!
which is it nigger

>>507125600 (OP)
If they secede we can nuke them

>>507126179
>Its just our people that suck
It’s the people who make it a shithole, retard.

>>507126179
Louisiana anon here, been all around the country and some of the world
California only has comfortable weather going for it. the prettiest place I've been is Tennessee valley, followed by the eastern Rockies.

>>507125718
>Greater Cascadia
well. at least its better then what we have now

>>507125600 (OP)
State enforcement of homosexuality

>>507126179
I live in San Diego and it's a shithole.

It's time to throw the feds out

>>507125600 (OP)
Will NEVER HAPPEN.

>>507125600 (OP)
Those are amongst the top 5 shittiest states. Would not care, let the third world subhuman feral shitskins destroy it and kill each other for all I care.

libtards have established legal precedent that secession is illegal. they'll need to institute a broad gaslighting campaign to reverse that. they might support Texas independence in order to do that though

>>507125600 (OP)
Trump will be very angy

>>507125600 (OP)
>If these 3 states decide to break from the union and become their own country?
Good riddance. Maybe we will be able to get gibs from them and not have to live there. I'll certainly try.

Everything else aside, the federal government isn't going to give up every pacific port connected to the contiguous US without a fight and I doubt it is one that those three states would win since they are basically oligarchys ruled from a handful of metro areas.

>>507125600 (OP)
Not happening and anyone that pushes for it is a traitor and mortal enemy.

>>507125600 (OP)
What do Oregon and washing offer other than the ports?

>>507125600 (OP)
Sherman’s march to the sea 2.0, west coast edition

>>507126846
shitloads of farmland, land route to canada, and it almost completely cuts of america from the pacific

>>507126782
Republicans would probably eject these states if give the chance because it would give them an absolute majority in the orher states.

>>507125986
>NOOOO YOU CAN JUST LEAVE MUH PRECIOUS UNION THATS HECKIN ILLEGAL

>>507125600 (OP)
US GDP goes down fifty percent.

>>507127727
This is why the civil war started. It wasn't about slaves.

>>507125600 (OP)
What else? "Civil War 2".

>>507127727
>US GDP goes down fifty percent.
kek, that old meme
It's only that high because of the federal funds pouring in for the military bases.
Your contracts would dry up overnight, but the military bases would still be in the same locations, just using "US" companies.

>faggot army of a few thousand trannys
nothing happens

>>507125600 (OP)
They will be crushed and forcibly re enter the union the precedent is there

>>507125901
lol you’re fucking delusional

>>507125600 (OP)
The eastern halves break off and rejoin the US, leaving a thin strip along the coastline of leftist garbage that should sink into the ocean and take everyone living there with it.

>>507126696
You still don't grasp the true nature of the npc do you? They have no memory of what the old narrative was the instant that the new narrative comes out. They will feel no pang of dissonance whatsoever. There are thousands of examples of this in the last decade alone.

>>507129341
an independent west coast isn't going to happen at the "grassroots" with NPCs. they need judges and a cadre of elites to pull it off.

>>507125600 (OP)
They get smacked around by the rest of the states.

>>507125600 (OP)
>If these 3 states decide to break from the union and become their own country?
Never gonna happen, but I would move there as quick as possible.

>>507128633
You must not get out much. Most of the country is basedbeans and minimum wage rednecks. The Rocky Mountains isn’t worth shipping anything over. One whole fucking ocean worth of trade.
>bases
Clinton shut a great deal of those down and things did sorta go to shit.

>>507125600 (OP)
The whole US tech economy would go with them. The remaining US would be turd world.

>>507126049
That magical california GDP is mostly Hollywood movies and silicon valley companies like apple and Microsoft- none of whom are dependent on being located in a specific state.

>>507126545
I grew up in San Diego.
When I was young, San Diego's motto was "americas cleanest city".
The spics stole that from you.

>>507125600 (OP)
Never work.
OR and WA have pretty large political differences depending on which side of I-5 corridor one surveys.
Northern CA has little to no use for SoCal, and Central Valley politics is quite different from CA coast.
And nobody in either OR or WA wants to be even more tied to or dependent on CA.

>t. Lived all along west coast for over 20 years

>>507125600 (OP)
>If these 3 states decide to break from the union and become their own country?
Liberal shithole cities become free fire zones. The rest of those states are immediately taken back. All USA has to do is naval blockade chinks from resupplying them with estrogen pills and onions and the cities will fall in a year or two.

>>507125600 (OP)
Cheap holiday for Americans, lots of crazy teen pussy for chud to fuck and cum in. USA can hold california to ransom by controlling water.

>>507126049
80% of burger live on east coast. Most California gdp is grinder, India.io and nigger burger. All real companies would move to an American shithole like dollars or Houston

>>507125600 (OP)
A very quick Civil War and the preservation of the Union. The lack the means to successfully execute a secession from the Union.

>>507125600 (OP)
Best timeline unlocks

>>507125600 (OP)
US/China invasion
WW3 will break out because of it

>>507125600 (OP)
The rural parts of those states would cut off the cities and let them starve.

>>507131292
It's like 70% East of the Mississippi but that is a land mass larger than the entire British empire at its absolute peak Liam and larger than the E.U.

Gigaidaho declares war over its clay.

>>507125600 (OP)
You truly must be an east coast cuck. These states are heavily divided between N/S California and E/W Oregon/Washington. Eastern Oregon is far more conservative than most.

karma earfquake

>>507130684
Nah. Well, mostly maybe, but we have it all.

>>507125600 (OP)
War. America won't give up access to the Pacific ocean.

>>507132015
Yeah, Portland and Seattle pretty much run their respective states.

>>507125600 (OP)
they offically become a third world country. i honestly hope they do it. we can all sit back and watch them implode and they can sit back and watch America do what it wants without those faggots having any say in our elections. they will IMMEDIATELY hate / regret it yet still blame everyone else.

they're dysfunctional and refuse to take accountability while also misplacing blame. no matter what they do theyre going to cause problems for themselves and others.

compare this to what these retards were bitching about after the last election. they were saying to do away with the electoral college! LOL bahahaha.. the same fucking retards! now they want to completely remove themselves from American politics. so which is it?!

>>507125901
you are painfully ignorant. prove you're right. protip, you can't.

>>507125987
>you don't get to leave
they're delusional enough to believe anything at this point.

>>507126179
it's like how you pretend california isn't 48% trump voters

>>507125600 (OP)
literally nothing. do you know why? because nothing ever happens

>>507126472
how about we don't talk about the tennessee valley in a positive way or all these faggot nigger loving pussies will try to move here

>>507125600 (OP)
most annoying faggots on the planet award

>>507125600 (OP)
IMMEDIATE TRAVEL BAN

EXILE ALL THE ONES IN THE US BACK TO THE WEST COAST

BUILD A WALL BEHIND A FENCE BEHIND AUTOMATED TURRETS

kick back with a cold one

>>507132499
I say let the urban centers become city-states. No reason to punish the rural people for the cities being retarded.

>>507125901
With what? Their army of faggots and beaners?

>>507125600 (OP)
We invade them and take it back

>>507125909
You're assuming the rest of the United States wants to keep them. If they ever made a serious effort to leave people from all over the rest of the country would be pressuring their reps to let them go. They cause so many problems. I mean California has a pretty meaty economy but let's face it, the United States is 36 Trillion in debt and we print money to pay for everything anyway so what's their tax revenue even really doing for the rest of the country. We'd end up some kind of trading partner and have a military alliance. They would probably have to guarantee port access to the Pacific but as long as that's going on nobody would miss Newest Mexico.

>>507125600 (OP)
We all rejoice we got rid of the queers

>>507125863
This

No one would notice

>>507125879
You really need to grow up though

>>507125600 (OP)
they wouldnt
they would become a vassal of mexico

>>507125600 (OP)
The left will never win an election again.

>>507132762
true. even just cali gone, thats team blue never wins again. nvm all 3.

>>507126088
>>507125912
>When a shill and an idiot met

>>507125600 (OP)
>>507132654
the last time it happend americans used metric tons of lead and gun powder to slaughter six hundred thousands of themselves and invented the gatling machine gun. every other country in the whole world put together haven't killed as many americans as the us government

>>507125600 (OP)
Fuck 'em, I hope they do.

>>507126179
I live in Kekifornia. You are lying. Death Valley is neat, marble beach is cool, Sierra Nevada mountains are god tier, but that is not enough reason to stay more than a month of your life for your bucket list.
My city was 80% white growing up. Now I can’t find a white person outside Trader Joe’s. Your children or grand children will mix with a beaner or worse; and you will be gone from the gene pool forever. White people: REGROUP ELSEWHERE. California is bound to burn down and with it the federal finances. You can see your lineage grow past the collapse if you don’t waste your time in a demographically foregone shithole like CA, AZ, TX. Northern New England, Montana, places where spics and niggers need gigagibs to live in because of the cold and work necessity. This is the only way.

>>507133317
its a bummer we didnt have the tech yet to actually wipe dixie out
fucking cashcrop retards trying to have a staring contest with the industrial revolution. youre lucky we made you blink when we did. you wouldve ended up like russia, trying to speedrun industrialization after you finally realized that slaves picking cotton wasnt a viable long-term economic plan

>>507125600 (OP)
I really thought we were friends, had a union and a nation.
You guys backstabbed me first so just remember that when your own bodies are dropping.
I'm not the only one you guys fucked over along the ride.

>>507133918
>I get my knowledge of the civil war from memes and public school, the post
It took the Union 4 years to beat what it considered a pre-industrial backwater and took more casualties in the process. It had to import millions of foreigners to do it. You’re lucky the North gave up on reconstruction because if it doubled down after the failure known as the Grant administration it wouldn’t have survived the second civil war.

>>507134236
Lol cope. The reason we didn't exterminate the dixiefaggots is because of a misguided sense of morality that ended up biting in the ass and destroying the country in the end. We very much had the means to do it, even if it would have taken a few years. The confederate army was completely buck broken, and 35% of the male southern population dead.
America(and the world as a whole) would have been better off if we had let Sherman and Sheridan do what they wanted and completely destroyed you faggots.

>>507125600 (OP)
If I were president and they declared their independence I’d just nuke the whole place and make it into nuclear wasteland.

>>507125600 (OP)
They get annexed and owned.

>>507134517
>we
Nobody believes you're white or even American.
The civil war was a brother war and brothers don't jerk off to genocide fantasies.

>>507134517
>if I just ignore the 12 years of reconstruction that ended in objective failure my historical fantasies become true
Many such cases.
>if we had let Sherman and Sheridan do what they wanted and completely destroyed you faggots.
You tried that. Didn’t work and it caused the radical republicans to become politically irrelevant.

>>507130966
This.

>t. Southern washingshit

>>507134236
im not throwing shade on dixies ability to fight
lee was a great general. he was just fighting on the wrong side, as was the rest of dixie
you just cant let some faggot plantation owners who run half of congress split the cunt in half over macroeconomic disagreements. no force wouldve even been necessary had they not been so completely irreconcilable and stuck in their old ways. they found a retarded hill, and decided it was a perfect place for them, and an insane amount of americans, to die on

it shouldnt have even fucking happened. it shouldve been a couple heated and argumentative days in congress, maybe a duel or two
but alas

>>507125600 (OP)
Get crushed by the rest of the country. For better or worse, this country is a suicide pact. No one leaves alive.

>>507125600 (OP)
all the In-N-Out Burgers well be defeated in less than 3 days, make my words

>>507126088
>you are the confederates when we succeed from the union
Man, politics is getting weird. I can't spurg out about the Jews anymore without people thinking I'm a leftist.

>>507125600 (OP)
Is that what the jews want?

>>507134939
>memeflag jew telling me that jews are my brothers
Every single aspect of southern culture is jewish.
>b-but you're le brown ellis islander!
My family were among some of the first off the boat at Provincetown. I've been here centuries longer than you have, mohel. What am I saying, you've never been here in the first place.
>>507134944
Shit reading comprehension. Not surprised, considering that you're a dixiemutt faggot.
Reconstruction failed because we went easy on the dixiefags. It should haven't even been done in the first place, because we should have just kept going until every city from Richmond to Miami was burned to the fucking ground, and every single nigger and white southerner either genocided or put on a boat and sent off like Lincoln had wanted.

They would do better as our cherished 11th province!

>>507135484
>you just cant let some faggot plantation owners who run half of congress split the cunt in half over macroeconomic disagreements.
As opposed to the bankers and industrialists who owned the other half and were importing foreign labor by the boat load doing the same thing? You can try to pretend the war was some glorious crusade to keep the Union together but at the end of the day it was ultimately about the north solidifying it’s economic stranglehold on the rest of the country and making fuckloads of money doing it. Everything else is cope for not liking the consequences of wining the civil war. That’s it.

>>507135959
>yankee retard assblasted about history not going his way so he makes up bullshit to cope
There was a 12 year military occupation of the south. There was nothing “easy” about reconstruction. You’re coping.

>>507125600 (OP)
What needs to happen is we need to get rid of Texas. They are the biggest welfare leeches in the Union. After that we kick out Dakotas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi. Not value will be lost.
>most welfare recipients in Texas
>biggest employer in Texas is Walmart
Sorry but you faggots gotta go.

>>507136253
Considering that dixoids not only committed treason, but also got away with the assassination of a president, yeah they did get off pretty fucking easy.
Like I said, we shouldn't have stopped, and killed every single on of you faggots when we had the chance.
Lincoln was a cuck for holding Sherman and Sheridan back, and he payed for it in the end, especially when the Union Army had the means to do a genocide.
btw, nice avoiding the redpills, jewish faggot.

>>507132904
Yeah, i need to get off of 4chan

>>507136057
btw, all the (((bankers))) supported the south.
see>>507136617

>>507125600 (OP)
hell nah. we need to kick all the mexicans out and its paradise. those are beautiful lands

>>507136544
Forgot Kentucky. Kentucky can fuck off as well.

>>507135763
Yeah, same man. I'm kind of in the purgatory of politics where I know the jews are vile, and I've pretty much always hated leftists, but now the right is just as retarded so I just don't fit in anywhere.

>>507125600 (OP)
It would immediately collapse and turn into something far worse than even Brazil you would have murder rates of what El Salvador was before they started locking all their pieces of shit up pretty much mad max tier

>>507126088
>Nigger YOU ARE THE CONFEDERATES

All my niggas Johnny Rebs,
Nigga Whistlin' Dixie!

>>507136057
>As opposed to the bankers and industrialists who owned the other half and were importing foreign labor by the boat load doing the same thing?
at least they were overwhelmingly white europeans. and we actually even paid them too, so no gay civil rights faggotry further down the road.
meanwhile you guys brought in the niggers by the boatload for decades. even got into breeding em once the slave trade got #CANCELLED. hell, many even started sampling the forbidden fruit themselves, hence why everyone """white""" down there is at least a quadroon

face it: your plan was retarded and wouldve led us to economic ruin, and probably being vassalized by some yuro power.
yes, we came out ahead big because we won the war. thats what generally happens when you win a war. its not how i wouldve handled it, but it is what happened

>>507125600 (OP)
The states couldn't beat the union when they were still fighting with muskets. Wtf could they do now that the Union has aircraft carriers and nukes

>>507125600 (OP)
One of them immediately gets invaded to secure access to the Pacific.

>>507125600 (OP)

USA respect their choice and not send troops to kill everyone?

>>507125986
People never figured out that this was a threat.

>>507136617
>more yankee cope not based in fact.
Hilarious. Your rise on this board has been noted for some time now.

>>507137152
>so no gay civil rights faggotry further down the road.
The civil rights faggotry is a literal creation of the abolition movement in the north.
>even paid them too
Pennies on the dollar and forced them to fight if they refused. You have a very odd understand of history. Not as delusional as the faggot above but still odd.
>yes, we came out ahead big because we won the war.
You created a despotic empire at home and abroad and constantly whine about said victory. It was then pissed away by vindictive cunts over 12 years whose own actions created the very issues we’re still dealing with today. I would hope you would have handled it differently because it was handled very poorly in 1865.

>>507125600 (OP)

Don't be silly. California goes to Mexico, along with Arizona, New Mexico and Tejas. Washington, Oregon, and British Colombia go to China.

And Quebec will be free.

>>507125912
>she have done
DO NOT REDEEM

>>507125600 (OP)
China would just try to take control of them

The US would be forced to invade and wipe out pretty much everyone that lived there to preven that

So yeah go ahead

>>507137860
China can't even fucking take Taiwan much less something in north america

>>507137779
>maybe if I say that he's coping it will disprove actual literal recorded history
What is it with dixieniggers and dodging almost every single question involving the jews and their heavy involvement in southern culture and the confederacy(which even the most famous southerners and white nationalists will attest to)?
I mean, you niggers don't even bother trying to cope post about it, or say that le ebil yankees are actually the real jews, or that the south were the goods jews. You just straight up avoid it. It's universal.

>>507137975
>The US would be forced to
fight 35% of the other US, but they are richer and would absolutely get China's support since they want a divided US.
If Cali secedes you shouldn't worry about Cali, you should worry about your own state now in disarray.

Pissrael loses hosts.

More money going to mexico instead.

>>507125600 (OP)
There will never be another democratic president again.

>>507125600 (OP)
their governments would join the ccp like canada did

>>507137779
>The civil rights faggotry is a literal creation of the abolition movement in the north
yeah its almost like your plan of sitting back and letting nogs pick cotton for you forever was retarded or something
but i repeat myself

>Pennies on the dollar and forced them to fight if they refused
the avg nobody yank immigrant lived better than the avg southerner at the time. its not even close. and it was mostly because of industrialization

>You created a despotic empire at home and abroad
as opposed to both of us becoming toothless, penniless rump states ripe for the picking of whichever colonial power was passing by at the time. theres that southern long-term planning creeping back in
you nearly broke the fucking country before it even got to its centennial. you shouldnt be surprised we tried to stop you

>It was then pissed away by vindictive cunts over 12 years whose own actions created the very issues we’re still dealing with today
youre lucky they had any mercy left whatsoever by that point
civil wars are as ugly as wars get, and we both killed an insane amount of each other during the war. grant DID want to kill all of you. he was, thankfully, talked off that ledge

What if America was from the tip of South America all the way to the tip of Canada and everyone in it American citizens. Thinking big is always a good start.

>>507125600 (OP)
Then they fight and lose a war and the United States of America becomes a lot greater by losing a lot of dead weight and bad ideas while keeping all of its territory.

>>507138031
>China can't even fucking take Taiwan much less something in north america

They don't have to take what the people will voluntarily hand over to their liberators.

>>507125600 (OP)
It severely fucks up the rest of the country. California is the 4th largest economy on the planet, grows a shitload of the fruits and vegetables that feed the rest of the country, and the Port of Los Angeles is one of the largest and busiest ports in the world. It's crucial to the global supply chain.

there are 32 military bases in california alone.
the us federal governt isnt going to give up all that shit. the entire western sea board access to the pacific.
it wont fucking happen. yall get put on military lock down quicker than you can say fuck the military police . all you politicians will but replaced by think tanks in the military.
they'd only feasably "break from union" after a full scale invasion of the us. via china mexico and canada. i'll leave it to you how those three countries will split that land up once it happens.

>>507125600 (OP)
Then we're actually fucked, believe it or not

>>507125600 (OP)
There will never be another Democrat president, and they will lose social influence over the rest of us.

>>507130482
>You must not get out much.
I got out of California.
I don't think you know how many government operations are using civilians for secret shit. All that would go away too.
All those businesses that are used to support every bit of the military and their bases include things as mundane as hardware distributors and hose supply and repair, oil distributers, and highway construction and repair.
The government would never relinquish control over the ports either.
California depends on the Federal government for it's prosperity.

32.814722261459, -116.95279017047906

>>507139787
lmao

You may be overestimated your value in those places, chang

>>507125600 (OP)
A lot of cucks die

Oregon and Washington would never willingly join with California in such economic suicide.

Oregon and Washington as a pair might secede with Idaho to join British Columbia forming their own state of Cascadia, but nobody wants California in the mix. They are a resource sink. Without water from the Colorado River and electricity from several surrounding states California's economy would crash. Oregon and Washington alone cannot supply everything California needs to survive. Being shackled to California would be a death sentence to both states.

Also, culturally, most Oregonians and Washingtonians hate Californians. A lot.

>>507126179
>Its just our people that suck.
lmao that is a big "just" though.
India and China has some breathtaking scenery and natural beauty, but it doesn't offset their shit politics and trash people who completely waste and abuse it.
Acting smug about you all being complete shitheads is some minor issue would be cute, but it's more pathetic. A state has to be filled with some bad people when they are openly despised when they move to another state. Even Portland fags aren't that hated.
tdlr: Congrats are ruining your state