Thread 507142319

how would you convince a zoomer that illegal immigration is a bad thing? from their point of view, it doesn't affect them at all whether someone lives here legally or illegally

>>507142319 (OP)
beat their faggot asses with a limp dick until they understand.

>>507142319 (OP)
Trump fucking won you stupid libtard tranny

>>507142319 (OP)
call them a cuck for wanting to import cheap labor for billionaires at their own expense

>>507142319 (OP)
I would give them all the arguments that prove it's bad

>>507142319 (OP)
Zoomer here. Immigration depresses wages, especially for entry level or low skill workers, while increasing demand for housing. So immigration raises your rent why shrinking your paycheck.

wait till a bunch of jeets move in next door to them

>>507142319 (OP)
Go live in their house without their permission. If they threaten to call the cops just tell them no human is illegal and their house is on stolen land anyway.

>>507142319 (OP)
most zoomers are mexican or have mexican "friends" that lie to them about what they should think or feel

>>507142319 (OP)
Illegal immigrants are based so long as they are spic, as cheap disposable spic labor is based. Jeets and Haitians should be executed summarily. The issue is merely that we need TKD.

>>507142319 (OP)
>why are you defending slave labor?
>so let me get this straight, you want to be paid a "living wage", but you also want infinite competition for jobs and housing, and think the government should somehow make sure there are jobs and houses, but also shouldn't be allowed to limit the number of people who come here?
>ok we brushed passed this earlier, but remind me, why do you want democrats to have barely paid plantation workers again? we had a whole civil war over that, do you just love the rich? you like elites? you're a big slavery enjoyer huh?

>>507142319 (OP)
If they are for asylum the question is if you actually believe you're giving asylum when anyone can come and go at any time.
If they are not for asylum tell them that every beaner that enters the US to exploit the inflation difference takes a job and lowers the wages across the board, because businesses that hire illegals have lower costs, meaning those who would be paying living wages to those who want to stay, can no longer pay those wages to compete.
As for understanding the differences in races, well, IQ is a decent starting point.
Everyone knows pitbulls are the safest dogs.

>>507142439
Retard. Illegals do shit jobs like landscaping, housekeeping, washing dishes. They work for the middle class. Youd have to be absolute poverty white trash retarded to have them compete with you for jobs. JD Vance and his H1B saars are the ones that are going to take real jobs away

>>507142319 (OP)
I don't care how a person is here. As long as they aren't being freeloaders

>>507142559
If you cannot out compete spic physical labor you should not reproduce. Spics literally can't even work as clerks at stores as they can't speak English or read.

>>507142658
yeah because those jobs pay like shit because of illegals otherwise they would actually pay a very decent wage

>slave labor
>depresses wages
>increases housing cost and lowers supply

I don't even need to bring up crime, these factors alone should convince any 100 IQ individual but there's the rub huh

>>507142319 (OP)
>immigration isn't bad.
>the government just needs to give me a free home to live in. That why I'm a victim, righteous and I never have to try.

There is no saving them. Either become a national socialist and send them off to die in a war or embrace capitalistic right wing and pretend to give a shit while benefiting from GDP go up and cheap labour.

They are just loser faggots that wish someone would do communism for them. Even actual communists are better than them.

>>507142319 (OP)
tell them they'll have to work a job and only make $25/hr instead of $40/hr.
that's basically what it amounts to, especially in the trades.

$40/hr is barely a living wage. i don't work for less than $50/hr.personally.

There's only one group that benefits: low end corporations that rely on unskilled labor. It's exploitative, harms union workers, if they work at all. Most come to rip off welfare programs, which makes it impossible to operate any level of welfare state.

The people born in a town, state or country have a birthright to the economic spoils of their nation. They should have first dibs on jobs, welfare, education, opportunity and home ownership. Only a nation with a generous surplus can afford to house economic immigrants. It's a luxury we can strive to afford only after every American born nigger is housed fed and educated.

Educate the niggers, then import more of them. But no more imports until the niggers are brought up. (it will never happen)

>>507142755
All the restaurants I've worked at, the cooks are mexican and the dishwashers are white

>>507142755
Whites should not be doing work like landscaping housekeeping, or washing dishes.

>>507142724
id rather not compete with someone working for $5/hr under the table at all thanks, supporting illegals has 0 benefits and only downsides for pretty much everyone while deportations will have tons of benefits for the average person

>>507142794
Try finding someone to do labour for you and report back on the affordability of that labour.

I am currently renovating a house.

The US government has refused to secure the border for decades while allowing tens of millions of illegals to cross the border. None of this would be happening if the US government that has claimed sole jurisdiction over border enforcement had secured the border

Zoomers who do not care about tens of millions of illegals and the many more tens of millions more illegals the US government was happy to allow to enter are going to continue to whine and cry about housing and fights over resources. Zoomers will grow out of the US government and media propaganda when they have to pay bills and see they are competing for housing and all other resources with many tens of millions of illegals the US government has allowed to invade. Let the zoomers who do not care get that hard slap of reality that now is likely the last fight before the US government will no longer deny it is too late to remove the invaders

>>507142658
Shareblue or Eglin?

>>507142657
This but keep the focus on the cause being capitalism, make them realise how the only people who win are people who are already rich

>>507142889
now imagine if the entire restaurant was white instead

>>507142900
why not?

>>507142910
not my problem pay up boomer no slave labor for you

>>507142981
Ok then what? I magically make $25 an hour instead of $12?

>>507142900
What about dry walling, kitchen installing, easy electrical work, tiling, etc.

Should they be the best paid people in our society? Im starting to learn how to do all this shit myself tbqh senpai. The Ukrainians do the rest.

Take them to an amusement park on a Saturday and then on a Wednesday and ask which they like more.

Dick her or him down hard enough until they stsrt emulating my beliefs

>>507143060
yes the supply of workers would go down making labor more valuable and forcing them to pay you more, its basic supply and demand anyone over room temp would understand

>>507142981
Because whites should be served by minorities. You really think the master race should not be served by a race that is naturally predisposed to serving it?

>>507143052
I learn to do it myself, use a website where unqualified people bid on the job (for easy shit) or i pay immigrants.

Die tradesmen, die.

Get out of bed and work every day for a reasonable price like the rest of us of we will find your replacements.

have them play a game, but don't tell them it's a game, where there are 10 pieces of pizza for you and them for dinner. right before serving the first slice, bring in 20 people and have them quickly grab a bunch of the pizza and run off. then ask what the problem is and why the zoomer is such a bigot if they even raise a single eyebrow in confusion or frustration. then, get up to leave, but before leaving make sure to turn around and demand the zoomer pay for the pizza. it's their job,

>>507143200
no thanks id rather not live in a mutt shithole just because you think youre too good for manual labor

>>507142706
Cucked view. Tolerating illegals means you’ve surrendered the sovereignty of your nation, since you abandon your right to decide who is and who isn’t allowed in. Do you tolerate people breaking into your home just as long as they are polite and don’t steal your food? Think this one through. No other country on the planet tolerates violation of their sovereignty to the extent we do. We are a nation of spineless cuckolds too afraid to stand up for ourselves for fear of being ‘mean’. The 3rd world takes advantage of us. Remember, it’s 300m of us versus 8 BILLION of them. Let’s stop being everybody’s bitch. They wouldn’t let you do the same in their country.

>>507143250
and thats the reason nafris are replacing you

>>507142319 (OP)
Most zoomers are surprisingly pragmatic so just don’t flip your shit, speak evenly and don’t be creepy

>>507143285
You sound nonwhite. You realize that whites in racially hierarchical societies live like kings. The issue is the Jews hate this and want to tear it down. Disgusting you actively want to devote your life to drudgery.

>>507143322
That's true

>>507143355
>don't be creepy
j f c, echos of this

>>507143328
Replacing me? I'm replacing tradesmen. I only went to college for 7 years, have a masters and 15 years experience in a fairly well paid job with responsibility in a hospital and every tradesman thinks he should be paid more.

Turns out I can do their jobs. So they sleep in their beds or emmigrate and cry they are being replaced.

Lazy cunts. They don't want to work.

>>507143417
>You sound nonwhite. You realize that whites in racially hierarchical societies live like kings.
and hows that utopia going today in our shithole?
>The issue is the Jews hate this and want to tear it down.
uhh theyre literally sponsoring it they want open borders just like you

>>507142319 (OP)
take their phone, run and shout no one is illegal on stolen land

>>507142319 (OP)
It literally doesn't affect them.
They don't want the jobs those guys take on, and many of those jobs are getting replaced by AI anyway.
It's why they hate Indians much more, because those guys actually flood the STEM and tech fields they want jobs in. Or the jobs just outright get shipped to India.
It's no coincidence the anti India hate happened under their generation, because I don't remember any Millennial, Xoomer or Boomer hating Jeets like this.

>>507142559
it's pretty much this but also they get free housing and everything here so they work only in drug business

>>507143536
Our system is run by Jews. Noem prays for Israel every day. Miller is a fucking Kike himself. Once you notice everyone involved with ICE is a Kike, and the Zionist Organization of America went apeshit on the democrats today because they compared ICE to Nazis is when you realize ICE is a ZOG system trying to keep whites from creating a society based on natural genetic order where whites rule over spics. That's why the CIA runs the cartels and destabilizes Latin America, because they cannot handle that model of racial hierarchy existing because it undermines ZOG.

>>507142658
Almost everybody in the lower and middle classes at some point in their life will have a need to take a job, any job, because they need money to pay for something critical right here and now. Without an immediate job the consequences would be severe such as homelessness or the inability to pay for healthcare.
That's what shit jobs are for, for those people, because they can get them immediately and without question. By filing those jobs with shitty slave labor immigrants you're literally destroying the lives of Americans who needed a fucking job during a moment of crisis in their life.
Get fucked with your zero life experience zoom zoom.

>>507142319 (OP)
You're not getting $30-$40 an hour because Juan is working for $8. You're not getting $750 rent or a $120,000 house because Juan took them all.

>>507142319 (OP)
It doesn’t matter, enough of us voted to get the power to deport them for the next 4 years. Then we will win again and keep deporting them.

>>507143875
>whites need to pick fruit
I wish the holocaust was real.

>>507143913
Juan is getting $20 and hour because you thought you could get $100 and hour. You lazy fucking tradie.

>>507144027
Do people not realize that crashing trade wages would FIX the housing market? The reason housing was cheap in the 1950s was BECAUSE tradies didn't get paid well.

>>507144113
I'm middle class. I can afford to pay $20 an hour. I do pay that. There are people that will accept that. You arnt getting $100 an hour. I simply do not have that money. I am forced to look elsewhere. Anywhere. Despite being supposedly a very high paid person myself it still makes more sense for me to do as much as I can myself rather than pay a tradesman. How does that make sense?

I know you think you deserve $100 an hour for plastering a wall but I simply do not have that money and I'm among the top 10% paid in my country of Ireland.

So we have reached the conclusion. Some of you go to Australia and Canada. Some of you cry that you are being genocided. I do as much of the work as I can myself on weekends. I pay anyone who i can afford to do work.

What is left? Either take the money i have or leave.

I can make this simple, if I can barely afford to be middle class, with my college education job and working nights and weekends, do you think I can afford to pay you enough to be middle class when you put in even less time?

It pays me to just learn to do if myself. If some brown man turns up and will take payment per hour less than I can earn per hour he gets the job.

You have no job either way.

>>507144507
That's why this is so absurd. People are actually so retarded they don't understand that if tradie wages go up, so do housing costs. 40% of the cost of a house is the wages to the tradies. If a house costs $100k at $20 an hour, that's now a $260k house.

>>507142319 (OP)
most zoomers think trannies are normal, there's no helping them

Why would you expect someone to be a good contributor to society when the very first thing they do upon arrival is break the law?

>>507142319 (OP)
>1pbtid

If I could just teleport to your room I would do...very..... 'nice' things...... that I can say publicly

>>507142319 (OP)
Just remind them that mass immigration from the third world is reason their parents could afford a house and a car on an average wage without so much as a university degree while their prospects of ever owning so much as a parking spot are nil, despite their $50k+ in university debt and working longer hours.

>>507142319 (OP)
Probably the $500 billion per year we spend on their Healthcare and food/housing.

>>507145012
That's because their parents didn't need to compete with H1Bs.

>>507145144
It's not just H1B's. It's the sheer amount of excess labour with very low standards.

>>507144859
So it's ridiculously simple to replace a stop valve behind a washing machine but I didn't know that! I did know that I can't afford a fucking irish plumber for a 10 minute job.

I watched YouTube. I bought some wrenches and parts and spent two hours doing a dumb job. Despite the fact I can't earn €75 an hour in my job. It made more sense for me to cut the plumber out.

They are too greedy.

>>507145237
I CAN earn €75 an hour in my job. I mean.

>>507142319 (OP)
You dont.
zoomers are going to be 10X worse than boomers ever were.

>>507145256
Just don't live in the US. Europe sounds like your idealised past.
>NO!!! Fuck you ahhhhh!!!

>>507142319 (OP)
drop them off in compton at 2am

>>507145228
Not true. For most of US history the system was built around nearly infinite immigration, but everything was rigged so as to assure the land went to citizens. Maybe the solution is citizen land reform or something, or a land tax with UBI to citizens. Even England was entirely based on the repeated clearing of rural areas dumping the population into cities to depress wages. An example of how things could work without this would be very different. But would involve people adjusting to having fewer goods.
>>507145237
I have had a similar last few years. It's amazing how simple many trades are.

>>507145563
>For most of US history the system was built around nearly infinite immigration
Fuck off kike. That was immigration from countries with a similar standard of living, not third world countries where we were effectively importing slaves.

>>507142319 (OP)
Remind them majority of their age group live in Urban (read: big city) areas. Illegal immigrants never migrate into new territory to settle or build new infrastructure in the US. They always move into large, already over-crowded, urban living centers - with rarities moving into small towns just to take them over and let them slide into disrepair (they refuse to upkeep these areas they've taken over.) So if they don't want their overstuffed jungle paradises to become even more crowded, they'll think twice about seeing it as a "good thing." When they realize their bills go up and crime goes up, then they'll start to realize their plight. Hopefully.
I'd honestly be far more tolerant of immigrants if they terraformed and built infrastructure in otherwise untamed lands. But we're basically out of those in the US. Most untouched land is either for gov't black-ops groups (like near Sedona AZ), or too poor of soil to build on, or too hard to get water/power out to (plateaus), or has to be preserved to keep the North American climate/biome intact (forests).

>>507142319 (OP)
Explain market forces.

Mexicans live with their extended family until they die

To remain competitive so will they.

>>507145563
YouTube is has probably, already wiped out simple easy well paid jobs, for handy men. Which might be why they try to charge such outrageous prices. They are preying on the most vulnerable.

>>507145792
Does the uk not have news story about brits staying at home, living with their parents trying to save a deposit for a home? We do here in Ireland.

I suppose the next step is staying at home just to pay the bills.

>>507142319 (OP)
>from their point of view, it doesn't affect them at all
This is incorrect. It DOES affect them and if they know how they won't be going to any fruity protests.
>1pbtid

>>507142900
>Whites should not be doing work like landscaping housekeeping, or washing dishes.
Whites used to do all of those things and could own a house, support their families, and their wives didn't have to work.
Corporations have been brainwashing use into thinking that households need two incomes and that this kind of work doesn't deserve fair wages.
I wish you an unpleasant day faggot.

>>507146068
They didn't. You are delusional. Dishwashers in the 1950s didn't own homes anon. Also Italians served the same role as Mexicans back then.

>>507146228
>Dishwashers in the 1950s didn't own homes anon.
That's because that job was given to the kid of the mom and pop who owned the restaurant, you fucking retard. Now all those jobs are given to fucking pajeet, ranjeef and jose while little Johnny jacks off to tiktok thirst traps in his room all day while being sold lies about a future that's been stolen from him.

>>507142319 (OP)
Honestly illegal immigrants are based as long as they don't pay taxes to this country or any other. Once all the paypigs disappear the system will collapse and we can get back to pumping out kids and dying at 50 like God intended.

>>507146228
You are very jewish

>>507142319 (OP)
Put it in terms they already understand.
>Pretend your country is like your very own Ukraine. Or your own Mexico. Or your own Palestine.
>You don't like when those get invaded, right?

>>507146068
>>507146413
Whites used to go wash clothes, make food and clean houses for landed gentry.

Should we go back to that? I have some land but I don't think i have enough.

>>507142319 (OP)
>how do you ask a low iq ape how he would feel if he didn’t have breakfast, he did have breakfast so it doesn’t affect nor concern him
You answered your question. You can’t. Zoomers are COOKED, blood. Brain is literally fried from all the skibidi MINDROT gyatt Ohio

>>507146588
>Should we go back to that?
If it meant I could live in a land free of brown people, I would happily.

>>507142319 (OP)
call them jewish. if you like brown people or immigration you are a kike.

>>507142319 (OP)
>how would you convince a zoomer that illegal immigration is a bad thing?
Why would I do such an useless thing, redditor? How convincing someone about immigration fix the jew problem? Dumb motherfucker. Will convince people to vote Republican/jew instead of Democrat/jew? Dumbass still can't see past distractions.

>>507146726
You would be a toilet scrubber who can afford food? Don't make me laugh.

>>507142319 (OP)
It isn't, though. We can all be Christians together, the planet is just a palnet. People might not be good but the good you do is for yourself.

>>507146588
The average serf in Europe used to work like 3 days of the week, and got most of winter off. He had his own home, a big family, a culture, and lots of time to do as he pleased. Explain to me how we have it better today. You aren't under the illusion that you're NOT actually a serf, are you?

>>507146833
Give whites of European descent their own country, free of communist jew leaders who want to fill it with cheap, brown labour, and I guarantee that I'd be happier than I am now. The fatigue of being forced to deal with subhumans who do not share my values does more damage to my soul than being poor does.

>>507146759
Doesn't fix the problem. Voting either way will result in immigration and several jewy, dumbass. In fact, they use the republican label to go even harder on the jew worship, just to mock your ass. Left/liberal is the jewish status quo, the rightwing side is where the jew get the chance to rub it in your face an you can't say shit because otherwise you woul be supporting the "left". Retard being played at every turn.

>>507147232
>and you can't say shit because otherwise you would be supporting

>>507142319 (OP)
> from their point of view
If their point of view is one that does not include facts, statistics, numbers numbers numbers, charts charts charts, words words words, then you're fucked to begin with, because it is literally the only way. You can start bullshitting them and make emotional appeals I guess, but you will be competing with mass media, their brainwashed friends, teachers and family and so on.

>>507146833
Do you think janitors don't get paid in western countries?

>>507142319 (OP)
Most zoomers i know hate immigrants

dude, just live under a bridge our in a basement apartment with a dozen other people, can't compete or something?

>>507142319 (OP)
>how would you convince a
Stop wasting time on the NPC, they will never learn, they will only follow the programming.

work on saving yourself.

>>507148191
Does this account for inflation?

it shouldnt effect them if I rape them either then

>>507148801
>in 2016 numbers