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>>507134150Day: 1205 โ Daily assessment: https://isw.pub/UkraineConflictUpdatesISW
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>MORE THAN ONE MILLION LIQUIDATED ZIGGERS KEKAROOOO>There will be more sanctions against russia - Merz>Hungarian president orbรกn (one of putin's greatest allies) calls russia a weak country that's incapable of invading Europe>The SBU's exposure of the Hungarian military intelligence agent network in Transcarpathia is not the first case of Budapest's interference in Ukraine's internal affairs - Zelenskyy>Two russian planed damaged in smooooking accident>russia describes china as the enemy in leaked FSB documents>Ukraine droned a russian locomotive, 13 tanks and a hundred other vehicles destroyed - according to rumors the drones were hidden in grain containers attached to said locomotive>All 3 Iskander-M launchers were destroyed in a missile strike in the Bryansk region on June 5 - Zelenskyy>Ukraine enjoys air superiority over the contact line as it continues to bomb Kursk unimpeded, suggesting a severe lack of AA>Ukraine shoots down another SU-35, reports say by an F-16>russia is leaving Mali after being thoroughly defeated>russian troops are complaining on telegram that they're surrounded in Tetkino, Kursk>General Staff of Armed forces of Ukraine confirmed strikes at Engels and Dyagilevo airfields overnight>russian ambassador tells Sky News that fiendish Anglo-Saxons were involved in the drone attack against russian airbasesโถTelegram
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now would be a good time to bomb a bridge or even putina xirself
>>507180033Hot and tasty!
>>507180170The worst enemy of a vatniggger is another vatnigger, not even in death they can avoid it.
How are hohols losing this bad lmao
>>507179964 (OP)>russia describes china as the enemy in leaked FSB documentsIf that's true Russia is literally done for lmao. China is the only relevant "ally" they have left.
>>507180402Nah, you already lost all your face vatnigger, sometimes almost literally.
>>507180556At least the vatnigger didn't eat the corpses... this time.
>>507180435Russia is already getting colonized, so far it's very small but some villages on the border already have signs in Chinese and settlers that are setting up a local economy which profits goes to china and not Russia.
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crimea exploooded too last night
>>507179223>Post outlet.>>507179660>vpnDon't feel like going through the hassle of getting my camera and taking a new picture right now as its past midnight here on the east coast of America where I reside. But a couple weeks or so ago I did take this one
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/506021380/#q506026550
Some British anon doubted I was American until I posted this picture and proved it. He shut his mouth up quick after that.
Top Russian Senator Says Israeli Strikes on Iran Are Unjustifiable, Warns of 'Inevitable' Retaliation
A senior Russian lawmaker has condemned Israel's widespread air attacks on Iran, stating the actions "cannot be justified from any side" and warning that an Iranian response is now unavoidable.
Konstantin Kosachev, Deputy Speaker of Russia's Federation Council, the upper house of parliament, issued the statement amid reports of a major Israeli military operation targeting Iranian military and nuclear infrastructure.
"This is not the end of the story," Kosachev wrote in a post on his official Telegram channel. "An Iranian response against Israel is inevitable; the vicious circle of escalation is sharply spiraling upwards."
The senator, a prominent voice on Russian foreign policy, asserted that Israel's offensive could not be vindicated from a "legal, political, military, or moral standpoint," signaling Moscow's strong disapproval of the dramatic escalation in the region.
IRAN VOWS 'UNPRECEDENTED' RETALIATORY STRIKE ON ISRAEL WITHIN HOURS; U.S. ALSO THREATENED
Iran has threatened an "unprecedented retaliatory strike" against Israel, to be launched within the next two hours, according to multiple reports from Iranian and Israeli state media. The threat follows a massive Israeli air campaign that targeted Iranian military and nuclear sites earlier today.
Tehran has also issued a direct warning that the United States will be held responsible for the Israeli actions, dramatically raising the stakes for a region-wide conflict.
In response to the imminent threat, Israel has been placed on its highest state of alert. Air raid sirens have been reported in multiple cities, and authorities have ordered the civilian population to take shelter. Schools, businesses, and nearly all public institutions across the country have been shut down as the nation braces for the promised attack.
Wagner Group Ran Secret Network of 'Torture Pits' Across Mali, Investigation Reveals
A damning international investigation has uncovered a network of secret prisons and torture sites run by Russia's Wagner Group in Mali, where hundreds of civilians were systematically tortured as part of the mercenaries' brutal counter-insurgency campaign.
The collaborative report, produced by a consortium of media outlets including Le Monde, France 24 and the investigative non-profit Forbidden Stories, provides harrowing evidence of Wagner's shadow war. Citing extensive testimony from survivors, the report details how at least 668 people were detained between late 2023 and the spring of 2025.
Victims described being held in makeshift prisons, often on official Malian military bases but under the sole, violent control of the Russian mercenaries. There, they were subjected to brutal interrogations involving beatings, electrocution, and waterboarding.
The investigation asserts that Wagner operated with total impunity, with the Malian junta either unwilling or unable to intervene. This autonomy allowed the mercenaries to not only torture those suspected of rebel ties but also to run a profitable kidnapping-for-ransom operation.
The report's findings add to a growing body of evidence documenting Wagner's atrocities. Data from the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) previously showed Wagner was responsible for killing more than twice as many civilians in Mali in 2024 as jihadist insurgents, making the Russian mercenaries the single deadliest force for civilians in the country.
>>507180033Absolutely fascinating conversation between Jeffery Sachs and Tucker Carlson.
>Jeffrey Sachs: Ukraine/Russia Dangerous New Escalation, & the Dark Forces Pushing for War With Iranhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677g2SsetMs
definitely want to listen to the part about "the origins of the west's hatred of Russia."
>>507181386Wish they'd get on with it ...
I guess interest in Ukraine kind of went down now that Israel attacked Iran...
>>507182488>interest in Ukraine kind of went down nowpeople lost interest in ukraine when it became obvious they had no chance of winning. That was well over a year ago.
>>507138262thing is a lot of MIGAtards were sick of dems fucking with white amercia, and gave preferencial treatment to nigs, shitskins and the mentaly deranged fags. the best solution for america, after deporting the confirmed zigger shills to rusniggeria, would be abolishing 2 party system, either entirely making politicians run on merit alone, or at the very least forming more parties
>>507181386they've launched 100 drones so far hopefully it's bigger than that
>>507181705rusniggers outniggering the nogs
>>507182702>That was well over a year ago.That was 2 years ago when the big summer offensive of 2023 failed. Yes, the war continues, but Ukraine has no path to victory, and hasn't had one since then.
>MIDgnJsz
Xhe is a paid ruzzian bot known as mearshpidorashka.
>>507182488The oil price rising is an issue. Putin might get to replace some money. Hopefully Iran won't do too much retaliation.
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>>507180955something got hit
>>507181386is this china's final warning?
Total kikes death!
Total pidors death!
Total mudslime death!
>>507182702surely that means we captured the oblasts we added to our constitution 3 years ago, right zister???? I mean we're the second military power in the world fighting one of the poorest country in europe right at our door step, right???
Does russia make its own Shaheds or does Iran still supply them?
>>507183872>surely that means we captured the oblasts we added to our constitution 3 years ago, right zister????land acquisitions comes during the peace deal.
Imagine, this far into the war, a person still thinks Russia wins the war by taking more land.
>>507184022they assemble their own down in tatarstan or something
So i'm glad iran is getting fucked now
No more suplly chain to Russia
>>507179964 (OP)This is literally what ancient Rome did to punish insubordinate soldiers lol
>>507184138>they assemblemeaning they import the parts?
>>507184060excuse me are you trying to discrediting the russian armed force??? Why are you insinuating that we can't physically take the land we want from ukraine???
>>507184263obviously, russia cant manufacture anything beyond 1990s technology level
>>507184179it's propelling oil prices back up though and they were already producing their own sahed drones. Would have been a plus for ukraine of this happened at the beginning of the war, not now.
Is there any credibility to the claims that the anti drone munitions meant for Ukraine got instead sent to Israel because Israel was planning this attack? Very disgusting if true
>>507184435goy's duty is to serve his master
This war is so stupid. I wish the world would round up Zelensky, Putin, and their entire families and curb stomp the lot of them.
>>507179964 (OP)Isn't the hungarian military quite shitty to be involving in Ukraine?
>>507184283>Why are you insinuating that we can't physically take the land we want from ukraine???Russia has already proven twice they can take land from ukraine when desired.
Taking land is not Russia's strategy to win the war.
>>507184179Lol. Are you a fucking kike?
>>507184405the oil price is the only problem
>>507184600fuck off and stay in your country
>>507184556ah, another gesture of good will!!! We truly are benevolent aren't we?
>>507184435Yes, I can confirm it. Voices in my head said it is true.
>>507184723Die, stinky gypsy kike. Iran will glass and gas kikes.
>>507184435who knows if that is true.
It is beyond question that Israel will get what they need long before ukraine ever gets what they need.
What is disgusting is the amount of commitments we have abroad. Most of these people need to be abandoned.
>>507184556>Taking land is not Russia's strategy to win the war.Killing one million ziggers and all your tanks is your strategy. (It's not working btw)
>>507179964 (OP)TZD and lmao at kikes and mudslimes
>>507184904>Killing one million ziggerswhy is it only internet trannies who are celebrating this milestone being reached.
no one else thinks there are 1 million Russian casualties. its just you guys.
>>507184138This One got bombed a few months ago but I guess wasnt enough to destroy the place
>>5071838728 more oblasts
>>507185006>thinks of trannies againcopeniks are so funny.
>>507185006One milly unlocks more stuff on the tech three, brace up for ukrainian missiles soon
>>507184544Orban is trying to stay relevant but he is kaput next year
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>katsaps launch missile salvos and 200+ drones daily for months
>crickets
>>507185470I'm embarrassed mate. Shocking behaviour from our RAF.
>>507184831truth be told zelensky has had few fuck ups regarding some allies
>>507180249>His smile and optimism: Restored
>>507185470it's because you're stupid goy
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>>507185470it's because you're stupid goy and they are "God's chosen people".
>In occupied Makeevka, locals have reported that a military gathering/vehicle(s) was targetted. There are dead and wounded, but the exact number has yet to be determined.
>>507185470Well Israel is like 1/50th of Ukraine. If any of those hits, a lot of kikes will die
>>507184903The US-israel commitment is a strange one for sure. But the Ukraine commitment? You vowed to defend them for giving up nukes. And I can't see anything but positives for US in supporting Ukraine to defend herself. Boosting US economy while getting rid of to be destroyed munitions and destroying rozzian assets would seem a pretty nice deal to me if I was murican myself
Based Israel. Goatfuckers deserved it for supplying russia with weapons
>>507185850>>507185561I guess the takeaway is that we need to have nukes cause nobody gives a shit about what happens in eastern europe
>>507185833Peaceful gathering?
>>507186061the shitty part is the oil prices rising
Wish her a happy birthday /uhg/
>>5071861316 gorilion and so on
>>507186350Ask turkey turds, how valuable they are
Kek
>>507180435it was never an ally, chinks just took advantage of them
>>507184060>land acquisitions comes during the peace dealrossiyan shills unironically think they can trick someone into just giving up territory that they don't occupy of they repeat it enough kek
>>507182854two party system works in UK. thing with burgers version is that when it was created there were not many examples they could take lessons on. So they made what they thought was the best balance while fool proofing it by making it very, very difficult to make any changes to the founding document (constitution)
burger versions mayor flaw is that president are directly electable by the populace via the state electoral college system. A "fix" as is would be that on federal level people elect only the parliament (congress) and its congress that appoints a president. Who then assembles his cabinet (government). Like brit MPs function
This would create an additional filter stopping populist demagogue cancer like agent orange from slipping through the cracks. while also refocusing the power center back into congress. which was the original intention. But since its so difficult to get anything done in Congress over time it has been easier relegating its powers to the executive. thus you end up with pseudo king-presidents
>>507186350Vatnigger bros, i don't feel so good about our chances against NATO air power no more...
>>507185470westoids will gladly sacrifice their entire military stockpile to protect yidsrael
every british pilot is proud to defend g-d's chosen people
>>507187253To be fair, it's good practice while no real concern of any further military complications. Iran isn't likely to nuke us.
Russia? Well, they seethe over us doing nothing .....
>>507187253And, we've helped you as much as anyone so less of the whining please. We're on your side. We do what we can.
>>507187189The UK has more than 2 parties
Yes, they don't usually win anything but they're also not completely irrelevant like they are in the US
This allows schizoretards to filter into their own schizoretard parties while the real competition remains between 'sane' centrist-left and centrist-right
Whereas in America the actual 2-party system led to them both being taken over by schizoretards, so now you either vote for magatards or niggertrannies
>>507184435Zelensky confirmed it so yeah, its happening. DUI hire Hegseth is also pushing for cutting Ukraine aid in pentagon budget. Finally the administration is also pushing for US to participate in the vatnik dollar store eurovision "alternative" alongside Belarus, North Korea, China and Iran
Simps never change. America is brain dead for the next years as they are lobotomized with the orange brain cancer
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>>507187189>two party system works in UKthing is in UK you don't have strictly 2 party system
>>507187701Israel has a right to defend itself.
>>507187521>>507187421Oh I know, and everyone here is very grateful to the UK for both actual material support and being a strong diplomatic voice to push others to support Ukraine
It still will always be funny to me how much euros and americans are terrified of doing anything against russia, even when their planes/ships breach your territory or when they fuck with baltic cables and other euro infrastructure
Polaks and romanians won't even shoot down ru drones/missiles when they fly into their airspace while bombing ukraine
>b-but muh nukesA russian plane breached turkish airspace for like 2 minutes and erdogan shot that shit down instantly, and no nukes flew
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so, guess Iran needs their drones huh?
>>507187701>Finally the administration is also pushing for US to participate in the vatnik dollar store eurovision "alternative"They should send kanye west to represent modern murican culture
>>507186028there are many murrikans who are descendent from zigger families
>>507187951I hear you bud but sadly our leaders are cautious. I wish they would do more and have lobbied them to but I'm just a flea in their ear.
Trump is the one fucking it all up. Russia was badly on the back foot until he started his shit.
>>507187608isn't the biggest schizoparty reform with farange, a kremlin muppet, and they arent anywhere near to getting any power
Tori and Labor are all that matter
also in americas case schizos aint anything new, back in ww2 both parties had unironic nazi and fascist simps. They held even a big meeting in NY complete with swastikas etc. Alongside, ofc, the communist fanboys that included loose orbiters like FDR. Yet they relatively never achieved such dominance.
IMO today social media is the big difference. its long been observed that people online tend to segregate into isolated groups that then turn into echo chambers. That then turn into purity spiraling extremism as moderation and shit forms a feedback loop silencing the dissent. reddit is your typical example.
Other major disruption is that in ye olden days you needed The Party networks, financing and marketing to achieve any political attention. Which social media now allows you to almost completely circumvent as anybody can get on shitpost
>>507187951>Polaks and romanians won't even shoot down ru drones/missiles when they fly into their airspace while bombing ukrainefirst, we sent you a lot of equipment, for free, no stringes attached when the war started. second we are unfortunatelly a democracy and even a with of bringing back mandatory military service caused a massive uproar
>A russian plane breached turkish airspace for like 2 minutes and erdogan shot that shit down instantly, and no nukes flewbecause Pasha Recep Tayyip Erdoฤan is a chad
>>507188088Pidors assembly them domestically like for 2 years.
>>507185833makeefka bros... not again...
>Russian economy crumbling
>Israel attacks Iran randomly
>oil prices shoot up
>Russia recovers
Told you so.
>>507189280With jews you lose.
>>507180033just woke up so no coffee yet
And there is an interesting things about maggots in general they eat only rotten flesh, so they can help a person survive and not get a gangrene
>>507188595with the daily bombings to the factories essential to their production (electronic components, payload production, assembly line), vatniks have a hard time to produce them enmasse now. And they are double fucked now that iran is needing as many shasneeds as they can.
>>507187701>videois that achivable natty ?
how many carrots and patoetes did lukashenko made him eat ?
>>507189280on the upside iran are a russian ally and would likely have helped them with further lethal aid
>>507189661They produce them in Elabuga (Tatarsran). Ukies can't do nothing with it.
>>507189661thats just wrong, pidors are making significantly more than they used to last year, hundreds per day, and no strike will do anything against that because its just basic assembly conducted by wagies and teenagers with no advanced equipment
>>507189640We use them in burns units to clean wounds. They're medical grade though. Everything is very controlled and clean.
>>507188595>assembly themyes with imported parts....... from iran..................
This thread is moving awful slowly since isreal got called to duty. Itโs amazing how the shills dry up whenever that happens, from the BBC threads, to the tranny shit, to the globohomo containment thread.
Too bad none of you are smart enough to understand what that means.
>>507189640that would be true in a medical setting, wild ones might as well kill you as much as help you
>>507189949Yes, at some point it will become unfeasible to deal with the drone spam
This is why we need to turn to more radical methods like killing off zigger leadership and their families. Joos do it all the time btw.
A few kremlinoid spawn dead and they might rethink if the drone terrorism is really a good idea
>>507190320brown shill are crying about iran, no more bait in the threads
>>507190277What a moron kek. They use chinese parts. No more iranian parts. EVERYTHING is from China now.
>>507190320>This thread is moving awful slowly since [Insert New Reason]how about the fact that it's the middle of the night in the US and early morning in europe during week day you non sentient snownigger?
>>507190320yeah we do understand, all the zigger shills are gone (for the time being)
>>507190401the sooner you start the better me thinks
>>507190320been waiting for the bombs to get there but iran are cucks and nothing will happen
>general /pol/ retards move on to the next currentevent in their retarded culture war spam
>only people actually discussing ukraine war are left
is this supposed to be a bad thing
>>507190448so what youre saying is that the shills have regulated working hours ?
>>507190372yeah, but who cares about zmeat anyways
>>507190553Eat shit, jewish cunrag lol.
>>507190602no proofs, didn't happen
>>507190565There is nothing to discuss. You can't win without domestic ballistic missiles. You exchanged your nuclear arsenal for nothing. And now you pay for it because you trusted to jewishfaggotmericans.
>>507190709Yeah, just like holocaust. Didn't happen.
Pissrael must be glassed and gassed.
>>507179964 (OP)Hot Take: Jews blowing up Iran is going to help Jewkraine blowing up Russia, since no more iranian drones will be sent to Russia.
>>507190768ok but when exactly are you gonna do that
>>507190553not even iranians used domestic parts for their original drones, its all imported, even those shitty lawnmower engines
>>507190716be honest, american jews and your kgbfags worked together on that
and yes, our retarded bydlo population is to blame for everything
wouldn't have happened if they didn't vote for kravchuk in 1990, or kuchma in 1994, or yanukovoch in 2010, or zeleboba in 2019
every time that hohol bydlo had the choice to vote for it's own destruction they picked it
>>507189280i mean trump killing nuclear deal allowed russia to stay afloat in 2016
>>507190822it will help russia short term because of raise in oil prices, long term will lead to faster global recession and probably depression
>>507190941Embrace final bolshevik pill, anon. This planet cannot be saved.
>>507191067it can, it will and i'll be the one to do so
>Trump hates China. China assists russia.
>MIGA supports Israel. Israel is bombing Iran. Iran declares Jihad on US. Iran assists russia.
>Trump: Let's appease russia.
>>507191067We're all gonna be speaking Chinese by the end of our lifetime, it turned out the average human is too stupid for democracy
>>507191067>>507191174You couldn't be more samefaggy if you tried, desu.
>>507191169wow almost like the entire trump admin is russia-compromised pedophiles, who could've guessed
>>507191226K E K
What a fucking tourist!
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sounds familiar, jews learn fast. other countries not so much
>>507191263Tourist? Not really. Just that brand of bothsideist doomerism is somehow remarkably similar.
Besides, I suspect you're just a well-poisoning nigger. I've observed you for a while.
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>>507179964 (OP)shalom hohols, i take your "assemble drones in trucks inside your enemies country" and raise it to "build a literal drone base inside if your enemies country and nuke them from their own country"
>>507191229shut the fuck up, hohol. why aren't you on the front, why haven't you drafted 18 year olds yet? stop wasting our time
>>507191406You are always free to fuck off then. Go and lick boots of some nigger or arab.
>>507191411Famous jewish chutzpah.
>>507191504KEKAROOOOO. M'lady doth protests too much.
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>>507191229they are just retards
assume at first stupidity and only after malice
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kekaroo
also, the iran strike is the answer to all the
>ukraine should just get nukes back
copium
if ukraine starts working on nukes, we're gonna get bombed by both russia and westoids together kek, AND we're gonna get called heckin WMD terrorists for it too
only big boys(and jews) are allowed to have nukes
>>507191607the girls on Epstein's island were from russia/Ukraine trafficked by russian mafia(fsb), no way the cunnies were not sharing compromise on western elites
>>507191641the su25 is a copy of american prototype plane
this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YA-9
>>507191607i don't see how retardation allows for the
>china is our greatest enemy>china is fully allied to russia>russia is not our enemymental gymnastics
>>507191641eternal flight in piss, zisters
>>507191641The Z sign always make the vehicles look like some African paramilitary force
>>507191797epstein was working for mossad, i dont think fsb was there, the entire thing predates fsb
>>507191836They are part of the same ring. Amerifaggots are the main communists.
>>507191836don't be dumb
rusniggers are the undisputed masters of doublethink and other mental gymnastics
>>507191836there is no gymnatics, trump and his administration are mostly retards, asslickers, and grifters
but they are all low iq dumb dumbs like trump himself
>>507191989yeah, but we're talking about maga here
unless you're implying that maga=rusniggers, which is my point
Weimericans are jewish sock-puppets.
also, since america is on russian side now anyway, we can hope for american civil war for some KINOOOO now
hopefully they keep escalating in california and some units get confused whether they should be loyal to the state or the federal govt and start fighting each other
>>507192080it looks like i am the one who is dumb today, sorry
well, the russian anon is right
they are not rusniggers, they are retards and grifters
>>507191836drumpf still hopes he can tear puccia away from china because he thinks him and pooptin are best buds
is it retarded? sure, but it makes sense and is not malicious
>>507192202It's an interesting dynamic. Half the soldiers are Hispanic. Saturday we will see how serious the opposition is.
No kings protest has potential.
>>507192202It would be nice! They must pay for their betrayal.
>>507192202>since america is on russian side now anywayThe US was never on your side. Just highly corrupt, blatantly evil elites within the foriegn policy establishment/MIC.
Ukraine was never a friend or ally to anyone in europe.
>we can hope for american civil warUkrainians and fake ukie flags are repugnant people.
Texas is a mexican clay! Back to the native harbor!
>>507187189The biggest problem is unregulated money in politics
Death to oligarchs and overreaching corporats
>Ukrainians and fake ukie flags are repugnant people
you didn't even know ukraine existed before your kgb handlers sent you your shilling manuals in 2022, zogslave
>>507192202wont happen, not yet at least, give it more time
not only the usa is in such state
Ray Dalio in his big cyclical model (hello Polybius, Spengler and co.) predicts that the west is at the 5th stage the pre war stage, and only afterwards will the system suffer either a revolution or a very very deep crisis combined with global derpession
>>507191797>>507191892>>507191909>>507191900Watch the paperskies yt vid on it
DONT LOOK UP WHY IT'S CALLED FROGFOOT
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>>507192495i guess russia is the only real us ally, and everybody in europe is us enemy, amirite?
>t.
>>507192658But how can you change that ?
Money is Power
>>507192878yanukovich was ousted
strauร was ousted
regulations can be passed
politicians can be pressured
politicians voting against anti-corruption bills have names and addresses and despite their corruption still are susceptible to pressure and many of even them have a point where they say "okay guess I have to vote along"
>>507191937its not like they wouldnt be the same exact people still
>>507191937>the entire thing predates fsbthen it's kgb, right?
>>507189778all it takes is just a smooking incident
>>507189949they still need to make the electronic components and the explosives. Miss one of those and you either have a just a toy drone or a shit drone that will lose signal/easy to fall against EW.
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>>507192834doesn't look like there's a su25 vid, you mean this one?
>>507193066corruption will always happen, and it happens daily
the same way merkle and other mongoloids closed down nuclear powerplants because muh safety or algo
democracy as a system cant work with large population, democracy can exist on a small scale, on larger it breaks, because of human nature
If only you knew how brown things really are
>>507192870>i guess russia is the only real us allyI hope Poland had nothing to do with the blatant actions of many in europe to sabotage Trump's peace talks.
The people who did work to sabotage the Trump's peace talks are certainly not allies.
>>507186350just imagine what a real NATO air raid could do to moscow
>>507189949>and no strike will do anything against thatwhich is why they stacked so much AA near Alabuga, because there's virtually nothing one can do to reduce drone production
>>507192878If only there was some kind of book that encouraged the lower class to overthrow the rich
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How comes Ukrainians have chant "Slava Ukraini - Heroyam slava" yet their struggle is unable to produce any charismatic heroes like Givi and Motorola?
>>507193586the nature of large scale air campaigns is that they take time and are resource intensive.
1) Time: Russian AA would eat up NATO jets. At a minimum, losses will be significant.
2) Resource intensive operations: We couldnt keep ukraine supplied on a far simpler, lesser scale of warfare. We couldnt maintain pressure on the Houthi's without running low on munitions.
AND YOU TRANNIES THINK WE CAN ENGAGE IN A STRATEGIC LEVEL AIR CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE VASTNESS OF RUSSIA!
>>507193570>Trump's peace talks>you slavs sort this shit out between yourselves and i will take all the credit once it's oververy cool peace talks, art of the deal for real
>>507193797>charismatic heroeskek, none even remembers how those animals died
>>507193797>yet their struggle is unable to produce any charismatic heroesTheir cause is unjust and illegitimate. Who could be a hero in ukraine today?
The man who led a popular uprising against the Rat King, and negotiated an immediate peace with Russia could be considered a hero in ukraine today.
Iran cucked again, happening over
>>507193920wdym, i do
they got roasted in an elevator by russian glowniggers
>>507193920>none even remembers how those animals diedthe war in ukraine will turn around to haunt europe (and maybe the US) in the future.
>>507193570yes we sabotaged it, because "surrender and you'll get no guarantees from us" is not good insentive for peace talks, so fuck off spick nigger faggot
>Russian AA would eat up NATO jets.
>>507193738lower classes never did such thing, at least they never managed to do it
in case of chlenin and sralin, both were paid by the jewish bankers from ny, and the usa aid and other shit always went to bolsheviks for some kosher reason
>>507193998>The man who led a popular uprising against the Rat KingYou mean Prigozhin? Considering Putin is the one called "Bunker rat"
>>507193797>motorolathe phone?
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>>507193797>yet their struggle is unable to produce any charismatic heroes like Givi and Motorola?why do you lie?
>>507193797>Motorolait's Lenovo now
>>507191807>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YA-9>copyIn the sense that they're both planes?
>>507193999but... the flag... of revenge...
>>507194072>chlenin and sralin, both were paid by the jewish bankers from ny, and the usadon't forget lenin being literally sponsored and delivered into russia by germany to fuck up their enemy in ww1
this is what commies worship as their example of a successful revolution, getting used by a foreign powers to destroy your own country
>>507194057im pretty sure that at least motorola was killed by your glowniggers, i read an interview with one of them last year where they admitted to it
>>507193826nigger, russia cant even down drones made by babushkas in their garage
>>507193998>Their cause is unjust and illegitimate.i never knew that defending your home is unjust and illegitmate. although since you're a spick it makes sense since you people like to loot and steal from people
>>507194237i don't remember which one, yeah
one was killed by ukr, and one was killed by his own russian masters for getting too uppity
>>507194230>flag raised>eyebrows raisedits over
>>507181800>(((sachs)))yeah not listening to that
>>507194272Tho Givi and Motorola where at home there, western Ukraine troops that where attacking them where not.
>>507194189in the sense that su25 was made as copy of ya9, check out the design of both of them
>>507194381One of his tactics is to simply spam videos, thinking nobody has patience for them. Whenever someone actually engages with his shit, he's quiet.
>>507194189Nah, he's right. The way soviets "designed" stuff was often to spy in one way or another on western stuff and "design" their own shit by copying the original to the best of their abilities (and the abilities of the local industry). The most famous example is the Tu-4 which is almost a carbon copy of B-29 (outside of things which USSR couldn't copy), but often this happens is less obvious forms and, what's more important, often this happened with projects that were later cancelled or not chosen by western MIC.
>>507194230they lost the ring of imminent revenge, they had no choice
>>507194236BUT THAT IS ZASED GOIDA TOVARISCH
>>507194433>the churka was at home in ukraine
>>507193853>"Do you know who I am?">"You're Givi!"
>>507194433>Motorola where at homeHe's literally pidor from Rostov.
>GiviHe's literally georgian mystery meat shipping in during USSR.
>>507194433>Motorola where at home thereguy who never been to Ukraine before in his life is "at home" in Ukraine, unlike Ukrainians who are "foreign"
>>507194230>Red Cum Cloth of Revenge
>>507180033Kaput. What's going to be my new neuropathologist confirmed that I basically should almost never drink it. At least I like tea anyway.
>>507194072>in case of chlenin and sralin, both were gay lowers and the formed died from buttsexfixed
>>507194272>i never knew that defending your home is unjust and illegitmate.ukraine defending itself is just the kayfabe presented to retards.
>>507193797>charismatic heroes like Givi and MotorolaLong dead and forgotten. Russia doesn't have any left. The closest one to that was Pringles and that's why monke killed him. Russia is a dictatorship, you can't be more popular and loved than the bunker dweller here.
Ukraine, on the other hand, does have heroes. Like Madiar.
>>507194662Some ziggoid that abused POWs on camera and got offed by the FSB when he got too uppity.
Typical zigger heroes, the ones who show brutality when they fear no consequences.
if you want your shilling to sound high iq try to hide that your vocabulary is based on american tv wrestling
>>507194723You wouldn't know anything about having a home, Mearshpidorashka.
>>507194742*is dictatorship
russia is a tyranny, with pipa being the tyrant
russia has no institute of dictatorship like the one that Roman Republic had
>>507194863well, "muh wrassling" is as American as it gets,.he was likely broomed to sound a bit more American after a string of failures. It's still not helping.
>>507194272you're talking to rusnigger on vpn
>>507194983chuj cie wie z tymi chorwatami. mogฤ
teลผ mieฤ tego baลkaลskiego pierdolca na punkcie rosji
>>507184435Yes Hegseth himself made the order .
Aid to Ukraine was allocated for producing small aa rockets (probably hydra rockets with guidance kits)in the US .
They were made but only a small batch got to Ukraine the rest got re detected to middle east
>>507182702People particularly didn't gave a fuck about pidorland losing their strategic bombers eh? Just a commonplace thing happening in a faraway third world country, who the fuck cares about some base at Irkutsk lol
>>507194844>and got offed by the FSB when he got too uppityAh yes, the gulaghomo way. They'll "clean up" every zigger telegram personality after the war ends won't they?
>>507195075He's not a Croat though. He's a genuine pidorashka.
Feels good to be a Slav and understand this without a translator.
>>507195075Well we have pro-russian president so...
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>>507194470dont forget entire mi line of helicopters being build around sukorsky helicopters that goodwilling president of the usa gave as present to commies
and the best part is that commie niggers were obsessed with the usa and usually discarded their own designs in favour of copying the usa one
>>507195308budanov_yess_yess.jpg
>>507191836You do realize that trump is working with russia and china to create an us collapse so he can also become tzar for life ?
>>507195308Just shut the place down at this point.
>>507195414No, more strikes. Millions of Russians Must Sniff.
>>507195362but why be tsar of a failed shithole when he could've been tsar of global pooperpower
>>507195357i just wanna propose you one thing, since russia bombed your children hospital, and since rusnigs are despicable creatures that would gladly use sick children as a shield for their MIC, i'd say that bombing residential areas and hospitals is a valid strategy for ukraine.
>>507195105>People particularly didn't gave a fuck about pidorland losing their strategic bombers eh?ukraine lost an immeasurable amount of goodwill around the world.
it has only served to bite europe/ukriane in the ass ever since.
so i've been watching all these american protests and ice raids videos
and i can't get over how comically fat everyone is in america
it's all just chubbies waddling around and fighting other chubbies
when you got a video of a cop/ice arresting someone it's just 2 spherical objects wrestling each other on the ground while sweating and huffing because they're instantly out of breath
>>507195472Trump actively hates democracy and the us and it's ppl . But mostly it's an ego thing he sees america as his belonging and doesn't want to share . His cabinet is full of yes men and corrupt niggers that just take advantage of the chaos .
>>507195500>bombing residential areas and hospitals is a valid strategy for ukraineit's not, while puccia engages in terror bombing frequently, for ukraine it would be a massive waste of very limited resources that are better used elsewhere, plus really bad optics
>>507195630well, americans will get exactly what they voted for
same as hohols got what they voted for in 2019
>>507195500we can't do that because we're dependent on westoid help which is dependent on westoid media
>507195597
>ukraine lost an immeasurable amount of goodwill around the world.
how? they attacked military targets, unlike russia, who attacked civilian targets, and all that "muh treaty" bullshit is just you niggers coping
>>507184405Agree, not useful imo. As usual, another coincidence with russia profiting from a trump administration event
>>507194230i lol'd out loud
>>507195730>americans will get exactly what they voted forthe alternative was Kamala.
Trump is doing more good than bad at the moment. He is at least smart enough to not trust ukraine.
>>507195500From a moral standpoint I completely agree, they deserve that and much more.
Their MIC is just such a target rich environment, and that should be the priority. Lots of shit still unbombed.
>>507195730>tf>hoholswait wtf i thought it was basically a slur for you guys
>>507196079I think it's either a pidorashka or a self-deprecating nigger. We have these too.
t. Eastern Ukrainian
>>507195782>how?the events that immediately followed spider's web have already played out.
You seem to have strong opinions over something you know nothing about. Yet you want me to explain things to you.
its not worth it.
>>507196131>t. Eastern Ukrainianformer. you shouldnt have changed it.
>>507196167>>507196228Awww, someone's dialling 8 a bit too much.
>>507195730>same as hohols got what they voted for in 2019Tho Zelensky was platform for peace and stability if I recall correctly. It's not that people got what they voted for.
>>507196056i know, but i see that recently they will move a lot of manufacturing into civilian areas, to use pidors in their chruszczowkas as a (sub)human shield
In the name of western christian and jewish values, both ukraine and israel will prevail.
>>507196311>someone's dialling 8 a bit too muchdont even want to know what this means.
>>507196079it's ukrainian for foreign policy but hohol when referring to our dumbass population internally
i.e.
>ukrainian strike on russian bombersBUT
>hohols voting for yanukovoch and then acting surprised when 2014 happened
>>507185470B-but we're totally run by jews and stuff!
>>507185561Nah, UK and RAF specifically plays in a team and the team hasn't decided on that course of action. We could have done a lot of things differently ourselves and our situation would have been much better. It's not a simple matter.
>>507196313Zelensky was for
>bro just stop shooting, russians aren't the enemy, elect me and i will just go talk to putin and end the war, i know he's a good guy(sound familiar?)
holy shit 35k russian deaths on camera in 289 days
>>507196380You know it all too well, zipper tits, don't be coy. Every day you're here bleeding with your neo-vagina all over the thread.
>iran has 1000+ russian anti-air batteries
>gets bombed at will by israel, with planes passing over jordan, syria, iraq, etc, and long warning time
???
>>507196336>move production into civilian areasDrone shit maybe, but not large stuff like missiles
Also if we do acquire the means to blow up entire buildings with 500km+ range, I'd rather use them on zigger power plants around mosquew. Let's see how they squeal during pozzian winter without power.
>507196167
>You seem to have strong opinions over something you know nothing about. Yet you want me to explain things to you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA you niggerfaggots don't can't even come up with a convincing cope anymore. listen here esteban, taking out planes that were bombing ukrainian cities is not something that "will turn world against ukraine". best it can do is to make you niggers seethe
>>507188374It's the stress. He didn't mean it like that. We are grateful to Poland.
We're also generally not aware of a lot of inner goings in your and other countries. And before we criticise anyone else's political leadership we should really ask our own some uncomfortable questions.
>>507196574Ruzzian AA works only on flat earth, please understand.
>>507196574It's almost as if stealth jets that burgers make are actually good ?
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>507196380
it means this spick
>>507196586I feel like we had a chance to do that last winter but cucked out to appeal to americans
maybe now that it doesn't matter we* will actually do it next winter
*sorry, unknown unmarked drones causing explosions, ukraine would never leave poor moscovites without power and heating
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>>507184179>So i'm glad iran is getting fucked now>No more suplly chain to RussiaIran getting bombed is the best thing to happen to Putin since Donald got elected.
>>507196554Btw I've noticed less zigger gore in comparison to 2023-2024.
I wonder if they decided to somewhat throttle down on publishing that stuff.
By that stuff I mean closeups of ripped zigger assholes in 1080p 60fps like strike drone company did
>>507196586i mean small arms and amunition for them can be moved into residental areas as well.
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>>507196768no wonder bibi likes to show next to monke
>>507196853>I wonder if they decided to somewhat throttle down on publishing that stuff.Probably bored and busy . Someone has to edit the footage and go through it to publish like 1 or 2 mins of hours and hours of footage .
>jun 14 trump protest+trump parade
>jun 15 g7 summit
>jun 24 nato summit
hopefully something interesting happens at least during one of these
>>507196768Everyone will forget about Ukraine in that case so be careful what you wish for.
Moped drones are also mostly just chink kit parts.
>>507197033I already know what, more weapons to israel, kek
>>507196586>I'd rather use them on zigger power plants around mosquewits 3 years that i cant wait until Ukraine start to do some serius damage to civilian infrastructures.
Give them some of their own medicine.
>>507196313He was a peacenik, moved a ton of funding from the army and MIC projects into infrastructure and shit.
>>507197082if any Polish goverment would want to send weapons to israel, everyone would crucify them
>>507196853>I've noticed less zigger gore in comparison to 2023-2024.Andrew would refute this, he sued to do daily 50-100 vids maybe back then, now he says he does 250-500 videos a day so idk. something else is that there are only a handful of companies that publish their footage, some of them dont even bother and they only publish very rarely, there are probably 100s of thousands of videos unpublished
imagine trying to shill under a croatian flag and unironically pushing the
>everyone will forget about the war in europe for the latest yidsrael-muzshit chimpout
line
like at least pretend to be an american zogbot
>>507197111I still think Zelensky was going to surrender, but the army refused. Until the last moment he was issuing public orders from them to move back, retreat, avoid "provocations", etc.
That general who got sacked, he probably ended up holding the line despite Zelensky's orders. And in the end russian speaker Zelensky hires another russian speaker as army leader lmao
>>507197111Yep, there was(is) a lot of seethe that he built roads instead of expanding the domestic MIC
Though to be fair better logistics came in handy. I remember the trips before they repaired that shit, it was horrible
>>507197208>no eternal flgiht
>>507196554>34943 dead>ONLY caught on camera>ONLY in last 289 daysJesus
>>507197191I think the plan was to give up the country and chill as a collaborationist governor but then he realized that russians were going to fuck him over personally too and replace with someone like medvedchuck, so he was left with no choice but start pretending to be a patriot
>>507197291i want to lick marichka's abs
>>507197082i am happy that hohol children will continue taking iranian drones so not a single drop of blood is shed by g-d's chosen people
>>507191693Is we get nukes as part of whatever replaced NATO it will be fine because then anyone trying to start shit will have to deal with France's and UK's triad. Possibly with German as well.
>>507197352Would't he have just fled to EU or somewhere else at that point ?
I dont think zelq is a traitor he's mostly just very arrogant and not as good at his job as he thinks he is but im not living there to say .
>>507197169I guess that could just be me not bothering to watch those 5min+ compilations of generic pidors blown up in the same way over and over again.
>>507197444You aren't getting nukes lmao, I'm sorry brate, but Ukraine is the kind of corrupt failed state that shouldn't under any circumstances have nukes.
Try to get under the Anglo-French nuclear umbrella if you want that defense. Alternatively, the war has dragged long enough, and has been expensive enough, that even just security guarantees and hosting a military base from a few key european states (France, England, Poland, Germoney) will be enough to deter future invasions.
>>507197444>with GermanAnon... They literally wait when you lose.
>>507197291not even counting the probably dead crew inside vehicles when they explooode, only confirmed limbless russians strewn about the battlefield, or even the ones that are clearly seriously injured but not dead, there is at least another 35k probably if those were counted
>>507197481i get that, at this point i have seen everything
>>507192202>US is some monolithic entityLOL retard.
>>507197472I also don't think he had the 'traitor' mindset - that would require viewing russians as fully foreign, he simply had the typical soviet maloros mentality where the nation and language doesn't matter and moscow is viewed as the natural ruler of post-soviet space
he did all his media business in russia before 2022 and barely spoke coherent ukrainian
>>507196336>chruszczowkasKek. And this is why latin script is bad for slavic languages
>>507197444germany under no circumstances should have nuclear weapoins and have large standing army. not only because they're krauts, but also because afd is growing in popularity
>>507194381>Jeffrey Sucks>Mearschizo ACKs
>>507197622you must be the type of guy who also thinks it's 'putin's war'
all of american internal and external policy is trump now
Lostarmour: statistics of exchange of bodies of Russian soldiers (red) and Ukrainian (blue) over time
Low quality, because repost of a repost of a.....
>>507195500Bombing civvie infrastructure that even the ziggerstan civvies don't care about is unviable.
But bombing oligarchs property and offing their bastards in (((accidents)))? Now that would cause actual effect.
The moment russki "majors" see everything they worked for being grinded to dust because of this war is the moment Poopin gets a trip out of the Kremlin's window.
>>507197727Well that does seem like him at the beggining but now he seems to have changed quite a bit . Both for the better and worse . But he's deffo not the jew he was before .
>>507196586bombing civilian infrastructure is counterproductive (waste of ammo, makes said civilians hate you more, etc.)
it's as simple as that
Doing an emergency bake, stand by....
>>507197191He was retarded in a way of thinking russians wanted a normal dimplomatic solution, despite them denying that during Poroshenko's time. Russian propaganda fucks up people good, since it successfully painted Poroshenko as a warmonger before retards.
>>507196657Lol, I'm sympathetic to Ukraine - and wish our govs hadn't be so slow to get involved more than most - but this "h-he didn't mean it like that, it's stress - is pretty funny ngl.
Liking every single Ukrainian wasn't ever a requirement to support Ukraine against this invasion - hating Russia is far enough.
>>507197833>But bombing oligarchs property and offing their bastardsbut that would mean bombing europe and doing killings in euro universities kek
russian elites aren't actually attached to russia
>>507197472Zelensky is a New Soviet Man, a citizen of all the Rus, and not a Ukrainian nationalist.
Well, he was, before. Now he might've gotten radicalized enough to be genuine.
Remind yourself he got elected on promises of compromise and peace, and he is from the east, and a russian speaking jew, who only learned Ukrainian on the job. He won an election against the anti-russian ukrainian nationalist oligrach, and he won via the votes from Donbas and Luhansk and Kherson.
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>>507197822you can see moments where, ukraine goes on the offensive and russia goes on the offensives, thats all that it says i think
>>507197822>4800 Ukrainian bodies returned in last 9 month>Perpetua managed to find videos of 35000 dead Russains in same period
>>507197984Didn't look like that during last frozen meat swap.
>>507197881yes, that's only IF we are talking about terrorizing their civilians back
blowing up their factories is way more valuable
>>507198040if russians make minimal gains they can recover their own dead retard
>>507197959
>>507197908Propaganda/information warfare is what Russia is best at by far. That's why I'm still dumbfounded they actually went in with a conventional war. They could have achieved better results without stepping in that territory
>>507197540>failed stateNigger, you had nukes sitting in some random gardens until not too long ago. If you can have nukes we definitely can as well.
>>507197959>>507198335Ukraine taking ground prodiced a 3:1 corpse collection ratio.
Russia has a 20:1 corpse collection ratio in the last few months. This is very, very strange (if the data is true).
>>507194146It just werks!
>>507181064>it's too dark go take a photoK E K
>>507197810US never became truly homogenous. They could unite around or against some common thing but it wasn't unbreakable. In the not too distant future there will be new unions of different, possibly differently-shaped states. Your gloating over their possible infighting is horrendously misplaced in strategic sense.
>>507198378"Dirty nukes" are just nuclear power plant waste material in a tube, you can't use it as a war weapon. At most you can pack it in a bag and "forget it" in an airport or whatever.
We never had an actual war grade nuclear weapon (and shouldn't have, some retard would just sell it to Iran).
>>507194230Jews won in Jewkraine. Jews won in Israel. Amerijews won in Amerikkka.
BRICs lost. China lost. Puccian commies lost. Irantards lost.
>>507198490>ackchyuallyNah. We will have nukes and you will have nothing to fear from that. Unless you're a zigger then you're fucked.
>>507198552I fear that the underpaid underqualified retard in charge of the facilities will sell a warhead to send his daughter to Harvard. This is a very Ukraine thing to have happen.
>>507197540I have been to both Bulgaria and Ukraine for business reason and it's a shithole mate, sorry. Everywhere but Sofia is ruins tier (and Sofia is in shit conditions already), lots of gypsies fuck up your welfare and long term demographic prospects. Lots of russian diaspora or russian sympathizing soviet-pilled boomers, especially in the eastern part.
Due to Ukraine not being in the EU and having a sort of critical mass it has developed its own big businesses and production, with way less young people leaving for better prospects (of course with the war this last thing changed). Bulgaria has nothing, most of the country is literally ruins, LIDLs, and shady looking shaved gray skinned guys.
No ill will to Bulgarians, but if there is a country that is already dead, without knowing it, is Bulgaria. You should visit Lviv or Kyiv if you have the chance. I spoke with Ukrainian refugees who went to Bulgaria at the start of the war and preferred to go back with the alarms and all because Bulgaria was in such a sorry state. It felt like it never recovered from the soviet rug pull.
Ukraine is holding on and still running its nuclear reactors, and it was of the key centres of R&D in the soviet union. The only reason it can't get nukes is because the USA won't allow it, so that Europe will need to buy american weapons to defend itself from the rabious pidorsky pitbull. Notice that a few months ago, when Trump was showing signs of being pro-russia, Zelensky basically said "ok then we'll get nukes". Day after a big guy from US military (pentagon? I don't remember) flew to Kyiv and the matter was dropped entirely.
Are Russian air defense systems pointless?
Iran has tons of them and it's getting bombed to shit now.
>>507199053Bruh Ukraine has half the GDP per capita of Bulgaria, twice the corruption, lower birth rates, higher emigration rates, higher abortion rates, lower life expectancy (not including the war), worse capital flight (even before the war) and in most ways, its just a worse ran state.
If we exclude Moldova, Ukraine is by far the least organized, worse ran country in Europe. If it has nukes, they will get stolen and sold. I believe this like I believe that they will come out of this war independent, join the EU and NATO, and develop and long term prosper.
I haven't been to Ukraine myself, but thats anecdotes. Statistics tell you what you need to know. For anecdotes, I have spoken to Ukrainians running from the war, who stayed here, and said they aren't coming back. Young women with children, or young couples with children, who said they will seek Bulgarian citizenship and stay here. In their words, its less shit here. "Bulgaria is less shit than Ukraine", tell me the Ukrainians. Statistics agree.
Also show flag.
>>507199168Air defense systems aren't a dog you can just leave on guard duty, you do actually have to have trained teams running and maintaining them.
And maybe the radar network in Syria was imortant to the setup? They got wacked when governments there changed, and Israel just randomly, without declaring war or giving reason, bombed Syria. Nobody said anything about that, btw.
>>507183555>Total kikes death!don't let jewtin hear you say that, also checked
>>507199382Lots of metrics about Ukraine are skewed due to generational imbalance in income and other stuff. Generally speaking, I don't refute the statistics. But I have personal experience with both countries, and Ukraine seems miles ahead in both the private and public sectors. Having to do with Bulgarian bureaucracy or shoddy-run Bulgarian businesses made me suicidal. Ukraine has pockects of excellency mixed with soviet-pilled retardness that will eventually die out.
>Ukraine is by far the least organized, worse ran country in EuropeYou have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike most of Europe, most of the Ukrainian bureaucracy is digitized already, and things that will take weeks in Europe are done with 1 click, like any Scandinavian country. The fact that you discuss with so much confidence about something you know nothing about makes me really dubious about the rest of your opinions.
Won't show flag because I am travelling right now and I don't want to mix discussions with flag-tier memes. Again, no ill will towards Bulgaria, but I wouldn't live in Bulgaria ever, while I would live in a peaceful Ukraine.