Thread 507185976

Basically the plane suddenly lost all of its power during takeoff and started to fall like a stone

Either a monumental fuckup from the pilot, or the boeings should be banned from aviation

link the footage then

>>507186047
fuck I am retarded
https://x.com/DeepikaBhardwaj/status/1933178286613401624

>>507185976 (OP)
It deployed it little ram air propeller drive to provide electricity to the controls, that's why it sounded like a propeller plane and not a jet. Some kind of power failure it looks like, not thrust bloody bastaaard pull it up you bitch.

No one cares anymore.

>>507186106
Upload webm

>>507185976 (OP)
Dumbass Co-Pilot hit the FLAPS instead of the Landing Gear. When he hit those FLAPS, the wings themselves became smaller. They needed to break 200 knots and they were probably at 120 knots. Dumb fucks...

>>507186106
fkn nigger kys

>>507186252
are you a pilot?

>>507186250
I am on phone

>>507186252
How can you tell ?

>>507186426
>ram-air-turbine
I use words randomly too burrito.

heavier than air flying is not real

>>507186563
Landing Gear was still down well past the point it should've come up. Bet money the Captain called for the Landing Gear to be raised and the street shitter co-pilot was daydreaming and grabbed the FLAPS instead.

literally saw this video like 12 hours ago faggot

>>507185976 (OP)
DO NOT REDEEM THE FLAPS BENCHOD

>>507186106
fucking retarded slovakian good for nothing this was posted 50 times yesterday,we're talking about iran nuking tel aviv now

>>507186612
They're a thing on Boeing jets, they deploy automatically once the there is a problem with the engines or electricity on the plane, it's function is to provide power to the controls while the plane is still flying. It looks like an electrical fault has killed the engines and the planes just fell out of the sky, completely Boeing's fault, 100 percent.

>>507185976 (OP)
>completely discounts the likely possibility that Air India ran that plane completely ragged without proper maintenance
This is the country that intentionally poisons food to make an extra buck, after all. I can almost guarantee this plane should have been pulled from service for maintenance and the airline just didn’t bother because they didn’t want to.

>>507186765
Apparently there was a loud bang before the plane crashed. Could have been a small bomb contained to the hold that severed the hydraulics.

>>507187108
Shouldn't take too long to get answers. I bet by Monday.

vaxx status of the passengers? this could be caused by magnetic interference

>>507186106
fuck you, you bloddy.
>links to fucking shitass twatter tranny central

>>507186252
I don't think the flaps were ever down. The jeets weren't understanding why they weren't getting lift and then just yanked back on the stick anyway at the end of the runway. I think they just panicked because they had no idea why the aircraft wasn't performing. I believe the Indian airlines also have the highest percentage of female pilots. This should get even more fun as time goes on.

>>507185976 (OP)
niggers should be banned from aviation

>>507187080
>It looks like an electrical fault has killed the engines and the planes just fell out of the sky, completely Boeing's fault, 100 percent.
except boeing does not produce its own engines, they install whatever engine the customer wants.

>>507187389
Fucking flaps may ass, that thing has enough thrust to take off almost vertically under normal circumstances. Some fat Negress left a dozen or so bolts untensioned in the Alabama factory.

>>507187080
The odds of both engines failing simultaneously is extremely low. It's possible that one failed and then the crew shut down the working one by mistake, that has caused crashes before

>>507187389
This. No flaps at all. Insufficient lift, it basically was in a stall condition right after takeoff.

>>507187739
If you rotate it before it has sufficient airspeed for that wing configuration, it's going to fall out of the sky.

>>507185976 (OP)
It's both.
Boeing is pozzed by DEI so made garbage the last 10 years.
Jeet pilots and air crew should have noticed power was fucked before takeoff almost nothing worked in the pax cabin but jeet jeet ranesh kumar was like everything good boss and just took off anyway

>>507185976 (OP)
Skill issue. Simple as.

>>507187739
If it was an engine issue, they wouldn't have had sufficient speed at V1 and would have rejected. Everything seemed fine to them until they tried leaving the ground and then everything went tits up. Flaps.

>>507186252
Saaaaaar why are we not doing the increasing of the height isn't it bitch basterd

>>507187739
Awwww hellll nawwww

>>507187920
Neither of these conditions will cause the RAT to deploy and it did. Some kind of vindaloo in the electricity. Even jet engines need electricity to operate.

>>507186765
I too watched the Asmon video and read the comments.

There is 3 airlines you never fly
Air India is one because of terrorism history and zero quality standards.
Korean Air or any Korean carrier never ever fly them their pilots once rammed the hangar here cutting off the wings and on 911 they literally turned on their hijack bacon when radio asked if they were hijacked because no engrish.
Malaysian airlines they literally flew over a warzone in Donbas and their plots suicided terroristz twice now

Klm is good, Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific has British pilots

>>507185976 (OP)
Shit maintenance by thirdworlders, stop giving them white man's technology.
Flaps weren't open.....

>>507187358
>10:26 "You don't see any sign of a problem here" (as it leaves the ground)
But there is a massive cloud of what looks like dust or earthy dirt or on second look SMOKE right as it leaves the ground.
Take a look.
Are people not seeing that because they just assume Indian airport runways are filthy dirty?

>>507188114
They got to 600 feet and a speed of 174 knots and lost thrust, the rat deployed and there was not much the pilots could do except keep the plane level as it fell. 1000% Boeing. Or shitty maintenance, short circuit and an electrical fire.

>>507188525
>Lufthansa

Lutfhansa's subsidiary Germanwings had a pilot locking himself up in the cockpit and suiciding into a mountain 10 years ago taking 150 passengers and crew with him.
They literally got a suicidal guy to flying planes in order to cut corners.

>>507188776
>Or shitty maintenance
Well that's a given. Nothing in the passenger cabin worked. How extensive the systems failures were throughout the aircraft should make for a good read. I'm still going with jeet pilot error until the black boxes prove me wrong.

>>507188629
this
poo tier maintenance gets poo tier performance

>>507188747
I noticed that smoke and dust as well but just put it down to India, the pilots made a mayday call so I believe in the complete loss of electrons.

>>507187714
Do they make the electrical systems on their planes? Or do you want to blame someone else for that?

>>507188747
>a massive cloud of what looks like dust or earthy dirt or on second look SMOKE right as it leaves the ground
>>507189557
That's the jeets using every inch of the runway because they weren't getting lift. They yanked on the stick and got the nose up, but that caused a lot of airspeed to bleed off. Without flaps, they couldn't recover and put her in the ground.

>>507188747
>>507189557
>>507190001
I left out making my point that it is dirt being blown into the air because the thrust from the engines kicked it up as they passed the end of the runway.

>>507186612
Ram Air Turbine, or RAT (also called Air Driven Generator or ADG on some planes). it provides emergency electrical and hydraulic power for the most critical systems

>t. A&P

>>507186106
this isnt new retard

>>507186426
What does that mean?

>>507186426
ram air is used for emergency procedures, it means no generators, no APU not battery power.
How could this happen?

>>507190313
It means that if it's Boeing you probably shouldn't be going.

>>507187108
A great distraction for the world while Israel attacks Iran?
Phul sapport sar

>>507190350
They had an electrical fire or something, they were sitting there for a while before taking off, It's a hot shithole and it might have just been one of those things that happens at the worst possible time.

>>507190313
no electrical power.

>>507190237
Back in my day, we just had an APU. Or a GTC/ATM.

>>507185976 (OP)
webm

>>507190350
There's video the passengers took of a cabin wide power outage before they took off. Any normal airline they wouldn't ignore that

It's a good thing poos service all our planes as well, I k ow I've seen there maintenance areas at SFO, it's like 100 percent jeets etc. maintaining all the aircraft

>>507190695
>poos service all our planes as well
I'm pretty sure it's blacks. That's how they get sucked into engines.

>>507188052
No, it was done remotely.

https://youtu.be/TUwamMbTelI?feature=shared

>>507190532
When you wait on airfield and engines don't run because of saving fuel, APU generates electric power and air for AC.
Funny thing 787 were grounded once for several months because their new Li-Ion batteries overheated and burnt. If the reason was a battery fire, Boeing is completely fucked after they have pay over a billion USD compensation to customer who ordered the new 737

All two-engine commercial planes are deathtraps.

>>507189073
>he thinks the indian first responders will even be honest about the black box logs, if they even know what a black box is, or if it even works.

All but confirmed they pulled the wrong lever, flaps instead of landing gear. They interviewed that one survivor, he said the plane came to a stall, and in common man's terms, the pilot applied full "acceleration". Implying the engines were working.

They could have pulled a sully and ditched in the ganges
>rescuers find 2000 bodies

>>507186252
You can literally see the wings bending bc of the lift.
No it was overloaded whit packages and was too heavy to fly, the jew wins again

>>507191356
I only have hope because the UK caliphate is providing ground support to investigate the accident.

>>507187389

I see your inceldom and being here makes you frustrated, but every single major passenger airplane tragedy ever involved male pilots.
Even male difficulties to control their ego, remember this dude from Germany?

Arent there alarms for incorrect takeoff configuration?

>>507185976 (OP)
The plane didn't lose power, it lost lift due to trying to take off without flaps. The pilots probably didn't realise and assumed it was an engine problem when their airspeed dropped like a stone when trying to gain altitude.

>>507191614

good one m8

>>507190979
Boeing stock dropped only 4.25%, it will be a bloodbath if it is a stupid battery, especially lithium.

This is part of the cockpit voice recording from the bangla airlines 211 crash. Its like a /pol/ parody

>The interview of the pilot
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuZV9kkzscg

>>507191772
The next person that says flaps is getting punched in the head.

>>507191941
Why's that? What do you believe happened?

>>507185976 (OP)
It was a crappy landing and it left a long skid mark on the runs way.

>>507185976 (OP)
>Guess the cow meat got redeemed in my stomach and was eaten.
>Jai shit Ram
Don't Redeem the code saaaaar........ Ackkkkkkkkkkkk

>>507191941
Come on dickhead. You clearly have strong opinions on the subject.

>>507191941
Flaps.

>>507191969
Thrust issue, the F word things are irrelevant. They have a surplus of thrust in normal circumstances, the RAT dropped, it's a spring loaded propeller turbine that drops automatically when a plane loses electrical power, read the thread Nigel.

>>507188794
The 4U9525 crash near les baines was caused by the masketta man.

>>507190577
space super power

pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8PtJaS-HME

>>507190350
Boeing wiring work + Jeet maintenance and safety. A deadly cocktail.

>>507192289
No RAT is visible. If you believe it is please circle it on a screenshot of this video.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shanti_to_everyone/

>>507192289
They killed their airspeed with an aggressive nose up maneuver because they didn't have flaps for lift. They unintentionally tried to cobra the 787.

>>507192391
Flaps on 5 and RAT protruding

>>507192512
Can you prove that those JPEG artefacts are the RAT?

>>507186252
>>507186765
If I could reach through the screen and choke the life out of you, I would. You are the worst kind of internet person.

Seeing the two videos and unless other info comes to light .
My Theory is .

>>Pajeet pilots using the Auto Take off system to take off -- it handles the throttles etc all you have to do is pull up the nose at the right speed.
>>Momentary electrical loss on the take off roll or seconds in, it trips off the flight computer and engines return to idle ( the Rat video you can hear the engines and the rat -- if they were at take off power if would drown out he rat ) .
>>Poor training / lazy jeet pilots what ever the cause , they are NOT hands on throttle watching the instruments. Ready to take over, so they don't notice when the engines return to idle and there is no thrust --
>>On the airport video you can see the plane drift side ways ( side slip ) from the centrifugal force of the rotating mass of the turbines .So they were still turning just not giving thrust .

TLDR; a momentary trip of the electrical system cleared the flight computer of the Auto Take off commands -- engine returned to idle -- Pilots not monitoring the Take off and are slow witted -- baffled why the plane is slowing and drops out of the sky

>>507192512
Your arrows are pointing to the deployed spoilers.

>>507192734
It is jeet error but not jeet pilot error this one was most likely jeet mechanic and safety error. If you lose all power and both engines right on take off you’re dead there’s not much to do

>>507185976 (OP)
there is a 2nd video but 2 versions. 1st version the press rushed out and shows the plane going down and exploding however it's a video from a cell phone recording a video on a monitor. you can see reflection of the person recording it (barely)

the other version of that video is the original and has far better audio. in the audio you don't hear jet engines. you hear a prop plane engine. this is the emergency generator that can be deployed by the pilots near the right rear landing gear. this propeller is forced to spin to provide emergency power for when the engines go out. someone should dig that video up. i saw a youtube video that showed it but can't find the link.

>>507192512
Ram air out, flaps at 5 or maybe 10 (seems to be normal for start) but air breaks out (deadly while starting)

>>507188794
>cutting corners

I'm fairly sure psych screening for pilots out for murder suicide isn't bulletproof in any airline lol

>>507192512
Here is the closest picture I can get from the plane in that video, right from when it appears on screen. The RAT, going off of other Boeing designs, should be coming out of a hatch just behind the right wing. It is not visible here.

>>507192876
>If you lose all power and both engines right on take off

--- 1 ) The Balcony Video ( with sound ) you can hear the Turbo fan engines , they are still working.
--- 2 ) you do not need electrical power for Turbofans or Turbo jets to work -- they like diesel engines -- the residual heat from the flame cans and the compressed air will continue ignition and propulsion.***
*** except in very rare instances such as very cold air and slam the throttles forward quickly or in heavy rain storm

>>507193297
Here is the RAT deployed on another plane to show what it looks like and where it should be.

>>507191711
>it's ceiling birds again, just ignore it

>>507193297
Here is another Dreamliner from a similar angle with the RAT deployed. The open hatch especially should be visible.

>>507193297
>>507193410
Cross section will be a lot more difficult to identify from the side. Resolution isn’t high enough. RAT Cross section from behind is much.

>>507192481
flaps don't give you more lift, dickhead. They provide stability at lower speeds so that you don't stall. The crash had nothing to do with flaps. Even without flaps you don't fall out of the sky. The plane was losing airspeed, it's pretty obvious.

>>507193947
see
>>507193883
The hatch is not open.

>>507193297
it's hard to see it with 50 pixels..

>>507194160
The open hatch should be obvious as it will be in different lighting to the rest of the fuselage.

>>507193977
>The plane was losing airspeed
Yes. Due to aerodynamic braking because they yanked the nose up because they didn't have the flaps deployed.

>>507194769
no cunt, it wasn't too steep an angle for a take off, even without flaps. It lost engine power, ie, not enough THRUST. Nothing to do with the flaps - which are clearly deployed, by the way

>>507194962
>which are clearly deployed, by the way
They absolutely are not. The only things clearly deployed are the landing gear and the spoilers.

>>507194962
The plane crashed in a straight line from the end of the runway. If it lost an engine the plane would be turned by the thrust imbalance and crash off to the side. So either both engines failed at exactly the same time or it wasn't an engine problem.

Sabotage.
Who was on board?

>>507190577
they couldn't land it?

You don’t even need flaps to take off, they just help. None you faggots have played a flight sim

>>507193883
did the jeet scam their way to become pilot too?

>>507195581
They allow you to take off and land at lower airspeed. If you try to pull up from takeoff without them, doing the airspeed you would do to take off with them, you will stall the plane.

>>507185976 (OP)
>started to fall like a stone

that looked like a graceful parabola until the fireball cloud, nothing like I imagined upon seeing the first video yesterday.

>>507195581
correct.

>>507195726
no. That model can actually climb at a much steeper angle, and even on one engine.

>>507195103
They lost engine power, both engines, clear as day.

>>507195581
It's a not a Cessna 150, faggot. Flaps are absolutely necessary the larger the aircraft.

>>507195843
The plane is pointed like this / while travelling like this \. A stall in other words.

>>507195930
It can do it on one engine if you have the wings configured for takeoff.

>>507195956
>Flaps are absolutely necessary the larger the aircraft.

not true, at all. You just need a little more speed/room. Flaps only increase stability at lose speed/reduce stall at higher angles of attack. That's all they do

>>507196084
What would happen if you tried to take off at the seed you would be able to take off with flaps deployed but without the flaps deployed?

>>507195581
hey commie shut the fuck up you lost.

>>507196153
speed*

>>507186106
>I am retarded
And a faggot, since you ar OP.

>>507186106
Did the pilot hesitated since he seem to not have enough trust, but though he didn't had enough runway left to stop so pushed forward at full trust but couldn't lift off anyways ?

>>507196084
There are no runways that are fast and furious long and the tires would never tolerate that kind of take off roll.

>>507196153
nothing would happen. If you didn't have enough lift, you wouldn't get the nose up. The nose was up, it was climbing for a short time then fell.

You are insinuating the lack of flaps made it stall, when it's just not the case.

That plane won't even let you take off without the flaps deployed, for one thing, unless you manually override it.

>>507196612
You mean it would stall and crash?

>>507185976 (OP)
Boeing isn't responsible for maintenance and Boeing doesn't make the engines. Retard.

>>507196515
Wrong

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o0lq3kzaTzo

>>507196751
>Videogame footage
Really now?

>>507196645
not how it works. If you can get the nose up and lift off, you aren't at stall speed. Unless you then lose power. You have no idea the speed or climb rate/nose angle these planes are capable of.

>>507196822
You aren't at stall speed to begin with but your speed drops as you climb and then suddenly uh oh you're falling out of the sky.

>>507191901
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoxyM4gBZko
lol

>>507191941
Flaps. Also pilot being stupid and using only 1/2 the runway to take off.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/air-india-boeing-787-8-dreamliner-bound-uk-crashes

>>507196822

>>507196612

I read that it has been hypothesised that the pilots instead of pulling the lever for landing gear they pulled the lever for the flaps and that’s why it stalled. Could that be a possibility?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EDho1UDWzM
MAN PULLED A "FINAL DESTINATION" MOVE

>>507196876
>but your speed drops as you climb

that's not how it works, that's my point. Your airspeed will INCREASE once you get airborne, if you maintain the same power.

The thrust to weight on these things is way more impressive than you realise.

>>507197454
Do you realise that to gain altitude requires energy input and that an airliner is not a fighter jet with a thrust to weight ratio over 1?

>>507197407
not really, in my opinion. If they retracted the flaps it wouldn't just stall. The angle wasn't very steep, like, it wasn't anywhere near the max angle this is capable of even without flaps.

I almost guarantee it was an electrical problem that cut power to the engines due to poor maintenance

The flight controls were covered in poo and the pilots hand slipped

>>507197407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbDJjgN7Xbo

The only time any 787 has crashed so far in its history is this incident with indians flying it

So that is why I am inclined to believe this isn't a problem with the 787 design at all, just a skill issue, cause indians either pilot error or they were cheapasses and didn't do maintenance properly

>>507185976 (OP)
What's scarier is that Indians make up 20% of the world population, and Trump is bringing in more and more

>>507190577
V1 not redeemed

>>507188525
KLM is absolute horseshit, never open your dirty poutine-hole on the matter of airlines ever again.

too much poo in the engines

>>507191901
No way this is real lmao

>>507199976
>KLM is absolute horseshit
Thanks for the reminder.

>>507185976 (OP)
Jesus, its obviously not the pilots fault if both the engines suddenly died causing the ram air turbine to pop out as seen (and heard) in other video. Its a maintenance issue, or a fuel issue or something like that.

>>507186252
Flaps wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference with no engine power. How on earth you think you can tell the Dreamliners flaps are up from the videos we have is beyond me. Aside from that, even with the flaps fully retracted and the plane fully laden, a Dreamliner still has plenty of power, even on takeoff, to maintain altitude and climb.
A pilot with over 8000 hours isnt going to "accidentally" retract the flaps instead of the landing gear you absolute moron.

>>507186463
You’re retarded

>>507185976 (OP)
Avionics problem, both engines stopped at the same time, not supplying enough power to the engines.
Boeing fault, probably more accidents in the future like this if not fixed.
How does this keep happening ?

>>507199976
WE GAN

>>507185976 (OP)
Probably start to ground all Boeings that model.

>>507188525
korean air was nice.
cute stewardess' good food, littls gift bag

>>507185976 (OP)

MAYO 'ENGINEERING' !

>>507190457
or a ritual sacrifice by the illuminati

>>507186985
SAMIR YOU ARE BREAKING THE PLANE

The plane only used half the runway, they didn't build up nearly enough speed for a clean takeoff.
Learn to fly jeets.

>>507190577
This is the mistake you make the first hour of flight simulator

>>507201967
No they didnt they ran long, you can see dust kick up when they hit the later part of the runway. Thats one of the reasons people think they were losing power post v1.

>>507185976 (OP)
It´s OK, they´re Indian, they´ll respawn.

>>507188525
>KLM
WE GAARN!
Never fly them.

>>507191661
Delta would like a word with you.

>>507191941
If it was a woman pilot it would have been piss flaps.

>>507190577
same energy

I was watching YouTube videos of passenger aircraft in india a while ago for a research project and the funny thing I noticed was that on domestic flights the pilots were often indian, but, on international flights the pilots were ALWAYS English or American. These international airlines know that they are incompetent and they aren't willing to risk it when human (non-indian) lives are involved.

>>507187083
/thread

>>507201417
The fact they had a sole survivor with unsinged clothes and perfectly undamaged boarding pass, able to walk after crashing at 100 miles an hour and being burned in a 100m fireball gives credence to your suggestion.
Jet fuel can melt steel beams but can't burn passports or boarding passes. Or so we are supposed to believe.

>>507188217
i hope this is some ai monstruosity

>>507185976 (OP)
>Boeing literally murdered its life time employees for whistle blowing while the world was watching the legal trials unfold.

This company is a total disgrace and should go bankrupt if you have any stocks in Boeing then you knowingly support a company that cuts corners and when called out MURDERS it's life long employees which the company is nothing without.

Fuck Boeing they don't deserve to exist as a company period.

>>507191356
Rolling for blackbox gangrape when they pull it from the wreckage.

Boeing got absolutely fucked in the MD merger from the 90s.

You may remember infamous McDonnell Douglas products such as the MD-80 or DC-10 which were absolute deathtraps. By the mid 90's MD were failing miserably with multiple crashes, but since they still hold plenty defense contracts (F/A-18 etc) the US government deicded they weren't allowed to go under, and forced the merger with Boeing. But for whatever reason all the MD suits took over in the new company and it then went to shits today the same way MD went to shits. In fact if you speak with a lot of original Boeing employees they are all super bitter about the merger, and complain MD basically took over Boeing with Boeing's own money.

>>507204582
>sole survivor
he did it sirs

>>507188217
what the actual fuck is this spawn?
how the fuck can mutts walk the same streets as this and call themselves anything but a fucking Gomorrah

>>507185976 (OP)
The copilot was told to raise landing gear, but he couldn't because there was poo on the control panel

>>507188217
>>507205000
>>507207403
It's clearly a face mask. It's some youtuber nigger who does these crap "i pretend to be an asshole in public while in mask" slop

Or subcontinentals should be nowhere near white technology

>>507204582
there's something incredibly sketchy about that "survivor"

>>507188217
Eddie Murphy!

>>507185976 (OP)
Or Indians don’t maintain their fleet properly. Hmm I wonder which it could be..

>>507186252
I never saw flaps go down in video