Is Telegram still privacy friendly in 2025? France tried to do everything to access Telegram's backdoor and from what I've been hearing from reddit they have what they want now, so what's the truth? Or should I stick to Signal?

>>507215431 (OP)
The whole "Signal not having any information of its users" is probably also a psyop to get people into using it

>>507215431 (OP)
Who would you prefer to read your data?
Signal is accessed by US glowniggers, and likely only US glowniggers. Maybe the Chinese tho
With telegram, there might be a little less direct US glownigger integration in the software but also the possibility that other governments are in there. Got a few friends who work in politics here, campaign managers and so on, and they all use signal fwiw

>>507215629
signal has no information on their users
the government on the other hand...

>>507215431 (OP)
I hope Macron hacked into telegram and stumbled upon my group consisting of only me and ~15k pictures of me cumming on a photo of him

>>507215431 (OP)
No
Anything that you can install on a smart device isn't private

>>507215794
Correct, although maybe even signal is lying about that.
We cant even buy computer components without hardware backdoors. If anons think glowniggers are just letting everyone have completely private and encrypted chats with each other on cell phones, I wouldn't even know how to describe the level of tard

>>507215880
this

>>507215431 (OP)
To a point. Pedos, glowies and scammers are basically the only users.

>>507215431 (OP)
> France tried to do everything to access Telegram's backdoor
Gay

>>507216075
it's literally tied to a fucking phone number, I don't think anybody uses telegram for those purposes

>>507215431 (OP)
PRISM captures all.

>>507216212
You underestimate the stupidity of consumers

>>507215431 (OP)
No obviously not every SINGLE public comms is comprised period

Think about it anon...you think (((they))) would be in control if it weren't

>>507215431 (OP)
NO

European intelligence agencies have full access to Telegram now

>>507216341
This

>>507215629
Elon promoted it 7 years ago i think.

>>507215826
What? You're attacked to macron? Lmao

He'd love it

>>507216475
And also signal... remember when (((macron))) intercept and imprisoned Signal founder...

That's 100% enemy too

>>507216606
>Imprisoned signal founder

Source?

Telegram
Anonymous 11/25/24(Mon)03:53:57 No.103294095

1. only "secret chats" secure
2. when use "secret chats" have to manually check if keys equal
3. desktop client dont have "secret chats"
4. android client allow only 10digits password for encrypt local files of "secret chats"
5. here is no any open_keys_catalog served by telegram, open keys for "secret chats" stored locally and sended thought normal chats
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overall: this kind of encryption can be made thought any messenger using external software

>>507216212
Lmfao no. Almost all pedo catchers end up getting confessions and they say telegram, bluesky or signal.

>>507216081
Backdoor is a term for open source with it's backend server where everything can be accessed.

>>507216075
So what's your pick for the utmost privacy friendly messenger?

>>507216735
>when use "secret chats" have to manually check if keys equal
Yes, that's the whole point of public key cryptography: you have to find a way to exchange and check keys.

>>507215431 (OP)
If the service is based in a NATO country then it's not private, all the data belongs to USA, and USA in turn belongs to Israel. Russia also belongs to Israel.

>>507215431 (OP)
>Is Telegram still privacy friendly in 2025?
It was always controlled by FSB.

it's russian, which means when push comes to shove it'll be just like any other western piece of shit

>>507217428
>>507217474

Pavel fleed Russia for France after Russians wanted the authority of it. He has no affiliation with Russia now.

>>507217358
You sold out to NATO though? Sweden would be perfect without NATO.

>>507215431 (OP)
Just use Session

>>507217428
Paranoid much? We don't have that kind of access.

>>507215431 (OP)
No. You need a working phone number to use it, and all your data is stored on their servers. Don’t use it for critical things.

>>507215826
Based as fuck

>>507215431 (OP)
never was

>>507216475
This is technically impossible. One telegram's server setup is complex and spreads across the word, some on the netherlands others are in UAE.

The problem isn't the content itself. Problem is exposure of metadata which you can't truly avoid it. On android telegram uses google cloud for their push notifications, on ios same shit but apple, all of your stuff can be seen with accurate timestamps by google or apple.

Secondly the encryption keys are maintained by telegram, meaning they can decrypt everything if it's not a secret chat. A man in the middle with enough resources can access your every single shit with fake certificate.

You normies always beg the tech companies for privacy. You can make your conversations private with generating your OWN keys with using FOSS software/internet services. But whatever.

>>507215431 (OP)
It's public the many times they've complied with government requests. Which is many.

>>507217735
Yeah, sure. Just days ago some Russian journalist posted the results of their investigation on "freedom fighter" Durov. But it's in Russian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7pnANMPigg

this thread is glowing... memeflagt confirm to each other how bad tg is

>>507216212
>it's literally tied to a fucking phone number
do you know how easy it is to get a fucking phone number????
>I don't think anybody uses telegram for those purposes
LOL
OL
L

>>507215431 (OP)
No Ai companies see everything on your phone. They laugh about people's activities as they track everything you do.

>>507218461
Yea but every sim is tied to your identity, even in your country

If you are white, TG is a honeypot. If you are brown, you are being used by glowies to provide the honeypot material.

If you are brown, and as long as you only scam other browns or individual whites, the glowies won't care. If you try to scam jews or corporations, then the glowies will come for you, even if you are brown.

>>507218590
>Yea but every sim is tied to your identity, even in your country
this is a breathtaking level of innocent and ignorance, actually I should say its refreshing

>>507215880
What about heckin grapheneOS

Idgaf I only use tg for shitcoin projects glowies can suck my cock

>>507218590
u fuckin retrad... how meany registrated sim card do u need?
they are registrated on Max Mustafa, and Mustafa Mustamann...

Russian glowies but also western glowies now.
Unless you live in the Turd world, it's unsafe.
Because turdies made selling abuse material into an industry there

if I see someone having a TG app I assume they're pedophiles or drug dealers/buyers

The company behind Telegram is owned by Russians who have ties to the FSB and backdoors existed for over 5 years.
If you want better security then use Signal but there is no 100% guarantee for total security.

>>507219225
>Scamcoins

>>507219523
I guess shitcoins are a helluva drug

>>507215431 (OP)
Telegram was never privacy friendly you retard. Use Tox or communicate via one-time-pad and a shortwave radio. Those are your two secure options.

>>507219584
Nah these are legit community coins. Come hang out in the Cheese tg it’s a good time.

>>507219699
What about group chats?

>>507219523
I guess I'm a pedo then

>>507219775
tox has groupchats.

>Nah these are legit community coins.

>>507219822
Could we search public groups to join? Sorry if I'm asking you lot of questions.

>>507219890
in theory yes, in reality there's no public database afaik.

>>507218424
Telegram might be way better that most of the mainstream stuff for privacy.

>>507219963
Alright

>>507220046
*Than

>>507218830
Still uses google play services but inside of a sandbox. It's more secure but private? Nah