"Space" is real, but what NASA is lying about is how vast space is. It's not endless and expanding. It's the firmament full of water and plasma where the stars and planets (gods) are. This is why astronauts train underwater, and why you see air bubbles in their videos. They actually are going to space, they just can't break through it. It has nothing to do with gravity.
The shape of the earth could even be an oblete spheroid because the bottomless pit in the Bible could be like a vortex or black hole. A hollow earth could be possible on both a stationary or spherical earth.
Both perspectives are biblical and like up with other religions. Space could very well be only a few miles in length on all sides.

>>507273260 (OP)
Not interested unless I can see Uranus

>>507273594
You'll have to settle for the moons of Saturn anon

>>507273779
I got your moons of Saturn right hea baby

>>507273260 (OP)
those are out-of-focus. You can see the same effect in basically any light source which is out of focus.
Everything in nature congregates into spheres, including water and ferromagnetic materials.
Space is simply the distance between objects, and time is simply a measure of rate of change over distance in relationship to other objects.

>>507273260 (OP)
Oh, quick derail.
Streisand effect, you got my attention anon. Christ is King.
Now I already know the pictures of the moon landing are fake. We couldn't protect the film from the radiation they now say is there.
I also know the earth is much bigger than they claim. It's round, but you can see much further past the curve than you should.
So I'm listening anon. Go on. Explain the what we are seeing in the pictures.

>>507274336
I believe Jesus is the son of God

>>507274331
>all out of focus lights do that
No one has every filmed a light doing that. In focus or out. Go ahead and post one.
That being said "out of focus" is one explanation for sure. However, with a different world view it looks a lot like a ball of boiling energy.
That photo confirms his claim a lot better than your explanation discredits him. Especially considering you offer nothing but an assertion that all lights do it.

>>507274601
So do demons. Do you accept Jesus's sacrifice for you sins and acknowledge him as your savior?

>>507273260 (OP)
>Professor EIL was here
https://ifers.123.st

>>507274336
>>507274601
>>507275126
Jew worshiping golems lol

>>507275037
I have astigmatism and most far away lights look like pic related and like your OP pic. Because they're out of focus, retard.

>>507275803

>>507275628
Jew= religion started in 600 ad, referred to in scripture by Jesus as the traditions of the elders.
Jesus Jew=Tribe of Judah, one of the 12 tribes of Israel and having zero association with religion beyond being a descendants of Abraham.
If all it took to fool you was a little identity fraud then you never cared about the truth to begin with. You're just a midwit that escaped reddit.
Go back.only truth lasts here.

>>507276012
That looks nothing like the pics? Where are the well defined lines? That's just blurry.

>>507275803
Are you a captcha? Any person with working eyes can see those blurry pics look nothing like the pics in ops post.

>>507276012
Not only that, we have "swirls" that keep reappearing in multiple photos but not in others. Showing change but with a set pattern that repeats. "Blurry" effects do repeat because out of focus light is by definition random.

>>507275803
>I have astigmatism and most far away lights look like pic related
no astigmatism makes them look like this. you just have shitty vision.

>>507273260 (OP)
Those are out of focus. OP retarded as always

Dear God, I hope this thread doesn't attract that one insane anon.

>>507276766
Out of focus light doesn't have repeating effects because by definition it's random. We already covered this. Try to keep up sport.

>>507273260 (OP)
Based noticer
But you do realize that for that to be true, it has to be flat?
The sun does not work on the globe model

>>507277225
For anons visiting. What you see here ^^^ is an attempt at well poisoning since their initial attempt to derail and then dismiss with deception has failed. Do not engage.

Personally I think everything beyond the earth is specifically meant to be incomprehensible and beyond what our senses can even make out. Even a lot of things on the earth are beyond our comprehension.

>>507277225
seer of truth
>>507277498
shill of lies

>>507277498
You are just afraid to admit you were deceived, we have all been there, it is part of the process unless you are a paid shill.

>>507277498
This is actually kind of neat. You have the fast porn post to derail. Then the "out of focus guy" to dismiss which got btfo real quick. Now we have the well poisoner. This thread is getting a lot of attention.

>>507273260 (OP)
None of those are in focus, and they look like they were taken from ground telescopes. The patterns in each image are caused by density waves in the atmosphere. It's the same effect as trying to see something at the bottom of a pool.

>>507277775
Does that make you the useful idiot, or the target?

>He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
>He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
>He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

>>507273260 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvmdGBwjx6c&t=35s

>>507277933
J key is in mint condition I bet...

>>507278140
there isnt a letter j in the word kike anon

>>507278222
kek true

>>507273861
I could've hired her as an escort but it would've cost me $5k. Like damn I don't know if it was worth it so I didn't pursue.

>>507273260 (OP)
Okay but what would be the point of keeping all of this information from the general public?
Wouldn't they WANT us to know about this stuff? You know, so we could train ourselves and the next generation to be able to travel through waterworld space?

>>507274193
gets me every fuckin time. Not that anyone will reply to this but me.

>>507277853
Good try. And I can appreciate the new track now that "blurry" was clearly retarded.
So tell me. Why don't the all have density waves and since when did density waves create nice concentric circles every time.
Better question, why can you take the pictures from different locations at the same time and see the same waves. For example for example mars is always circles.
Nope, if it was atmosphere then it has to be planet location specific anomalies centered over all the telescopes at once.
Your pool comparison falls apart with even a tiny bit of critical thought.
So now we are starting to put some effort into the discredit.

>>507278355
ice ages make a lot more sense when you consider that the ice moves over the stationary plane following the 'sun of man'.

>>507273260 (OP)
All we know for certain it's flat, the rest is speculation. It's likely though there is water or some other primordial liquid surrounding it, at least above the dome. How it looks from the outside nobody knows, could be a hypercube could a torus, could be anything.

>>507278355
Are you asking us to explain scripture to you? Because no, if he is right tptb would not want the info public.

>>507278430
Eh, its just layers of the onion.
Stupid people will post stupid shit, but they can still be technically correct.
FWIW, scientists cannot focus their shit either...

>>507278595
>t's likely though there is water or some other primordial liquid surrounding it
how do globies cope with us having an atmosphere even though diffusion into an infinite vacuum?

>>507277768
>>507277906
Why don't you just post the video jewboy? What, are you afraid someone might see something?

>>507274193
Watch as they all ignore this

>>507274193
>brb tuning my light clocks to make relativity work because the jews need it to explain their relegion

>>507278595
Another well poisoner. No it's not flat, it's can't be. What you observe on earth is not possible in a flat earth model. Only globe earth.
The earth is absolutely bigger. The simple horizon test proves that, but it's not flat. That's dumb.

>>507278868
>jew poisons the well while calling you a well poisoner
every single time.

>>507278802
you should go take a course on physics, because you are retarded.

>>507278846
>i can't read scientific notation and I'm praying nobody else can either
I thought you jews were supposed to be good at math

>>507278802
>everything I see on TV is real
kek

>>507278989
>- for Science!

>>507274193
It's funny that you think you did something.
Till it comes into focus and you see howany different variables you had to control, including shiny light into a stable solid state medium.
This is like scientists saying We created life! Only to see they had to start with living proteins. Surface level deception that only works on idiots that believe you anyway.
Anyone that cares about the truth always digs when they hear info that may prove them wrong.

>>507279132
You do realize the bars are their precision right?
You are not some retard who didn't get a STEM education are you?

>>507279270
((you))

>>507279343
And what does the y axis label indicate kike? Go on, explain it to all the toothless hicks you quadruple boosted sheep.

>>507279343
whats the y axis measuring?
gf/f

>>507278946
Already covered this itt.
Jew=member of religion created in 600 and with the formation of the Talmud
Vs Jew=tribe of Judah, one of the 12 tribes of Israel but the only one midwits know about.
Seriously if all it took to fool you was the synagogue of Satan committing identity theft though semantic shift you really don't care about the truth anyway.

>shilling flat earth while chartreuse standards of irritation are being raised

>>507279628
thats completely unrelated to the thread lol. i totally agree i hate christkike posters
also i am just trolling you tthat memeflag is def an actual shill

>>507279514
... you are retarded...
Its a small number because its atomic clocks... This is one of 2 claimed proofs of relativity and you don't even understand the argument because you are too fucking retarded.
The jews claim those two resutls, the two colors, are different enough to prove Einstein.
Yet if I removed the colors and highlights, you would not even realize it was 2 datasets.
Kill yourself or read a book, either way the world will get smarter.
>nothing to see here just another jew claiming he accelerated something to 1c, and thus achieved infinite energy.
kek uneducated globes make my dinners so fucking hilarious

>>507273260 (OP)
Here's an old picture I took of Venus by holding my phone up to my telescope eyepiece

>>507279534
Dude, thats dF/F, holy fuck you are illiterate too.
Its a derivative....

>>507279844
I accept your concession schlomo.

>>507274193

>>507279935
when I did calculus we used a lowercase d for derivatives.
anyway still not explaining what its measuring, wavelengths? vibrations?

>>507279989
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notation_for_differentiation
You don't even understand grade 12 math
go away and come back in a year

>>507278617
I mean, I'd like to understand what any of this is supposed to mean.
So yes, can you explain scripture to me?

>>507280014
>the timing of ceasium clocks, one of the only supposed proofs of relativity
I thought you guys were smart?

>>507273260 (OP)
Sonoluminscense
https://youtu.be/O9B3vzsZsr4?si=ObeGaKkEUgU8zAYV

>>507273260 (OP)
This is similar to what I see in my 8 inch dobsonian telescope on a GOOD night. Still can't find ops dicks though.

>>507273260 (OP)
No shit. Jacques Picard already explained this. Jews also believe this btw

>>507280046
>so riled up he can't even keep posters straight on a board with ids
Take a break buddy. You're all worked up.

>>507280116
im not against you at all why are you so hostile im just trying to understand.
why do you still keepup with this crap in the first place? i havent solved an equation in 15 years

>>507274331
Crystals dont make spheres. For someone who seems like they consult their jo crystals about whatever cosmic energies they think exist before hitting their bong im surprised you didnt think of that.

>>507273260 (OP)
embarassing
cease your well poisoning psyop at once and get a real job

>>507280207
I am not retarded is all?
You basically just said you have done nothing of value for the last 15 years.

>>507275384

>>507280194
You also pointed out the axis, don't pretend like you are clever, fuckhead.

>>507280532
>nothing of value
ok youre lost in the sauce. value is created from work, people who spend all day playing with theorhetical maths are overwhelmingly taxpayer funded parasites.

>>507280570
Post dave next, faggot

>>507275384
.

>>507280676
Ok, what work do you do that adds value?
Do you buy shit from china and hold onto it for 2weeks?
Do you salivate over early adopter advantage so you can scalp and rent out your 'value'?
Please enlighten me to the status of your superiority, oh great and wise scholar of the globe earth.

>>507278349

>>507279243

>>507279886
Sir that's a toenail clipping.

>>507280650
And I didn't make any claims about what the text said. I asked you what it conceptually indicates. Something you still haven't shown despite trying to handwave past it. Not that you need to keep replying anyway on account of your concession. As I said I think you might need a break. I hope your supervisor isn't slavedriving you guys too hard on this op. Flat earth threads seem to be getting increasingly unhinged.

>>507278868
>it's can't be
Shut up, SEA nigger. This is a 1st worlder discussion.

>>507280490

>>507279343

>>507279935
leaf...
d and lower delta are not interchangeable symbols
and they represent different things

>>507279844
>proofs of relativity
at first I read that as proofs of reality and I was about to give you the old what for.

>>507281025
>its true because its colorful
pretty much everything on that site is a flat out lie

>>507278351
Honestly, it would have been the greatest fuck of your life and nothing would have never come close

>>507281274
attack the argument not the source

>>507281311
Dude, its optical interferometry, either talk like you understand of fuck off and learn something without announcing how retarded you are.

>>507281389
its just basic spatial reasoning

i know youre only pretending to be retarded as part of this astroturfing shill shit youre doing to well poison btw

>>507281124
I already disproved this one bot.

>>507274336
>Christ is King.
>Now I already know the pictures of the moon landing are fake.
wow what a surprise, the christcuck falls for controlled op bullshit

>>507281579
leaf...
I am a retired professor of physics...

>>507273260 (OP)
Everything checked out until you brought up “bible”

its round
to counter this they will show images of the sun with the hazy outline of obvious glare and then pretend not to know what glare is. no glare the sun is a solid circle

>>507281690
you can debunk basic spatial reasoning as you know since youre only pretending to be a retard who believes flat shit

>>507281627
No its just geometry, and there are no cameras there, and NASA already said where the pictures came from, and that they are CGI.
You are either retarded, or paid to post here.

>>507281482
Pic is out of focus light

>>507281770
So then why are you accepting results with that low sigma as proof of jew lies?

>>507281886

>>507273260 (OP)
lol went from
>space is fake
to
>space is real BUT nasa is still lying!!!
Kill yourself sub 80 IQ nigger.

>>507273260 (OP)
I somewhat agree in that geocentrism can work on a globe earth, but the issue is that there's still no observable curvature. We can simply see way too far.

>>507281770
he is a disingenuous troll. probably a 20 year old physics student chink

>>507282134
Ok, how far away would the camera need to be to make the picture see over 80 degrees of latitude >>507279243

>>507281982
>Flatearth.ws leaf shill
This faggot still being around says everything about how important it is to keep flat earth truth from widespread knowledge

>>507274193
love this gif

>>507282268
an impossible amount? you are hostile to someone who agrees with everything you are saying. you are defensive to the point i dont believe you are serious. you must be trolling or have down syndrome

>>507281982
In your video I can’t see waving in the light surface. In OPs pic you can clearly see wavelike effect

>>507282134
>probably a 20 year old physics student chink
Not a chance. If he were he'd take pride in the work the scientists on the chinese station are doing, not desperately try to not address anything they can be seen doing in their broadcasts. Chinks are nationalistic as fuck and no amount of shillfarm shekels would be sufficient to turn them on their people's accomplishments.

>>507282450
maybe in the USA but almost all chinks here are from hong kong or taiwan and hate mainland china

>>507273260 (OP)
Not one of you retarded faggots owns a telescope. Not one.

>>507282416
Geometric patterns too

>>507282407
Its basic geometry, its not an 'impossible amount'.
I am hostile because 99% of people who speak on this topic are stupid cunts with ego problems, you included.
Just because you are trying to be polite does not absolve you of hostility.
That is literally the jewish MO.
Either talk like you understand the topic and stop whining about people being mean on 4chin or fuck off.

Has the "you can't measure curvature fag shown up yet?

>>507281912
leaf...
I did no such thing. I merely observed your confusion of a matter which should be beneath freshmen.
Jews did not develop the tenets of relativity: tenets which are easily verifiable with simple atomic spectroscopy. Kikestein synthesized prior work without attribution (i.e. plagiarism) to create a now disgraced model.

I thought this was /pol/, not /x/. Is this honestly how far brain rotted this board has become? It’s just the stupidest fucking conspiracy theories anyone has ever heard of and literal fake news as far as the eye can see

>>507282657
Then again, that assumes that the two passive aggressive consensus building faggots are even organic people in the first place.

>>507282657
LOL WHAT so now youre on team globe and agree that the pictures are indeed possible?
>whining about people being mean
you really need to work on your diplomacy if you think you can ever convince someone of anything.

>>507282755
Blame your fellow Jews

>>507282738
So then you agree with me that there are no experimental proofs of relativity?
>tenets which are easily verifiable with simple atomic spectroscopy
How exactly does this prove relativity?
I doubt you can elaborate, because if you could, it would be heralded as a proof by the jews.

>>507282755
no its a well poisoning op from paid shills
every day every hour 24 hours a day
the same arguments, the same memes. over and over. its inorganic. its astroturfing

>>507282865
I am on the side of intelligence, something you have demonstrated as lacking.

>>507279272
Nice low-IQ cope argument. You're a moron who got proven wrong with video proof. Simple as.

>>507283041
He did it, he posted Dave!
kek

>>507282995
the only thing I questioned was a misuse of the symbol for partial derivative and you deemed me a stupid retard.
that's your bar for intelligence. you really dont have a leg to stand on

>>507283041
>ack