I always assumed it was based on a study or some shit. Wtf.

>>507290737 (OP)
Green with envy

>>507290737 (OP)
AoC should be 14 at most

>>507290737 (OP)
>based on a study
"Studies" are also done by sexless Karens.

All of the "studies" are done by them or faggots.

>>507290907
>AoC should be 14 at most
To be honest it shouldn't exist at all.

What right does the governments of the world have to tell people when they can have sex??????????

a nigger

>>507290737 (OP)
>"girls under 21 are too immature to give meaningful consent"
>believed "women must reshape society's morality"
kek

and what is a "constent washer"?

Build a time machine and send me through it. I will rape her.

>>507290737 (OP)
It always is. Older women want less competition.

>>507291199
Yeah I see where you're coming from

>>507291199
Then how do we protect children from sexual exploitation?
(I am in Australia so I am defining child as 0 to 15)

>>507291477
>Then how do we protect children from sexual exploitation?
Beatings.

>>507291477
In America, child seems to mean 0-50.

>>507291477
In civil White societies like colonial America, all people are capable of self-governance and determination. It was a healthy existence

>>507291366
She is ugly tho

>>507291477
A real society could discern people marrying young from child molesters and deal with the latter.

>>507290907
It’s 12 in Mexico. And lots of other places

>>507291520
And who will decide who is beaten and eho does the beatings?

>>507291366
You can fix her

>>507291792
And who would be in charge of dealing with them?

>>507291477
That’s the parents job

>>507291477
>>507291199
No sex until marriage. It's that shrimple.
Heavy penalties for the older party if they violate this.

No divorce too.

>>507291830
>>507291950
The parents

>>507291956
And how would that be enforced?

>>507292039
Extended family can enforce it if parents won’t. But vast majority will.

>>507291950
The township.

>>507291477
>Then how do we protect children from sexual exploitation?
That's up to the PARENTS

NOT the fucking government.

>>507292011
And what age groups are allowed to marry?
How would that be enforced?
How would pre marriage sex be punished? How could you enforce such laws?
Who is in charge of enforcement?

>>507291699
Ugly by 1800s standards. Plus, we're talking time travel here, so I can go back far enough that she's young and hot.

I mean it'd be sort of pointless since pregnancy isn't very safe in the early teen years nor can girls even get reliably pregnant yet. Fertility gradually increases from puberty until peaking in one's early 20s.

>>507292021
And what if the other parties don't recognize the parent's position?
Who enforces the parent's will?

>>507292397
Would you please remove the memeflag?

>>507292106
And who will krganize, direct and mediate the township?

>>507292011
>>507292265
Oh and parents get to veto your marriage until 18 or 21, pick whatever.

>>507292265
>And what age groups are allowed to marry?
As soon as they can make babies.
>How would that be enforced?
Birth certificates if I have to guess. Just choose the lowest number that makes it easy. 13's a good start.
>How would pre marriage sex be punished?
Life imprisonment, but I can be negotiated down.

>How could you enforce such laws?
>Who is in charge of enforcement?
Fuck... who's in charge of laws..? In a society..? I really didn't think that far...

>>507291199
>>507292011
This. Kek agrees.

>>507292265
>And what age groups are allowed to marry?
When her father says so. The father's shotgun enforces it.

>>507292397
My midwife actually told me 16yr olds lavour the best

>>507292762
>>And what age groups are allowed to marry?
>When her father says so. The father's shotgun enforces it.
THIS.

Fuck laws and government bullshit on everything, not just this topic.

Reminder: the higher your IQ the more likely you are to want the AoC lowered.

>>507292650
>TLDR: the government should control how and when people have sex

>>507292966
Don't worry, I agree with that. It's just unreasonably high right now.

>>507292762
AND WHO ENFORCES THE FATHER'S WILL????

i swear to god every answer just comes back to;
The government should control and regulate sex

>>507290737 (OP)

>>507293076
FREE WILL, you fucking golem. You need someone to think for you? You need someone to fuck your wife too, faggot?

>>507290737 (OP)
AoC should be the same age as girl can legally have an abortion without parental consent. If she’s allowed to make such a hefty and impactful decision about killing her baby, she is surely old enough to decide whom she sleeps with. There’s no real argument against this.

>>507293088
Wtf is that thing?

>>507293076
>AND WHO ENFORCES THE FATHER'S WILL????
The daughter. >>507292184

>>507291199
I like this image

>>507293169
Okay. Lets walk through this
>man fucks 11yr old girl, both say they liked it
>man ditches her
>father of the girl decides the man must suffer
>the man has already gone
>father: "dang it, he must pay for what he did!"
>father never finds oyt where the man went
>man lives happily ever after
>girl is now un marry-able, her life is ruined
>the father and his family's reputation is ruined.

>>507293238
That is actually quite a clever solution for the modern world.

>>507293745
>>girl is now un marry-able, her life is ruined
Why?

>>507293311
>the daughter
Jfc.
Retard.
The girl will side with the guy she fucked.

>>507293745
>father let his 11yo daughter get fucked by tyrone
This one is clearly on the father. He should have used the shotgun before you step 1. Now she is unamrriable and she is his problem for the rest of his life.

Yes, the system works.

>>507293943
>The girl will side with the guy she fucked.
She SHOULD stand by her man.
That's what trad women do nigger.

>>507293900
>no virginity
>pair bonding ruined
>reputation destroyrd

>>507294196
We live in the modern world.
Are you suggesting that an 11yr old girl should never leave her father's direct line of sight?

>>507294351
>>no virginity
STFU mohammed.

We donna mind a little mileage on dat poontang over here.

>>507294469
Not if she can't be trusted not to fuck tyrone.

>>507294554
Ew

>>507291477
Hellooooo? Fathers??? Maybe stop crucifying them in the name of the jewish courts.

>>507290737 (OP)
Thats a Jewish woman, look at the features.

>>507290737 (OP)
THIS THREAD TLDR:
>Age of consent laws are currently retarded. Ideally, there are no AoC laws, but that can only work in a high trust, fraternal, filial, small pre-industrial community

Fact is ftiends. In modernity, we need AoC laws.
The question is not whether or not they should exist,
The question is,
At what age should the AoC be? And why?

>>507294554

>>507294882
say what? that's the most Anglo phenotype i've ever seen

>>507290737 (OP)
Well she's kind of right. Women no matter the age are too immature to consent to anything

>>507295138
It is not.
Anglo women are gorgeous

>>507295061
Fact is, you're a cuck shilling for big gov to tell you when your daughter should get fucked.

If you segue'd your intro into "we need high trust, fraternal filial communities" you'd be on the right track. Instead you call for big gov to fuck you over.

We don't need your stinky laws regulating our daughter's vaginas. You're just outsourcing your parenting to the gov to free yourself from that responsibility.

When God calls you for judgement, do you think "I trusted the ZOG government" will absolve your guilt of not protecting your daughter?

>>507295367
Actually bro, i want a high trust fraternal small gov society.
But that's nkt the world we live in.

>god
Oh cool which one? Seaxneat? Þunkr?
>i mean't jesus/Yahweh
Ah, "god" is the proper noun of Anglo-Saxon deities. You mean "El" (singular) or Elohim (plural)

>>507295063
Starts to decline after 10 partners.

See.

>>507291477
I define child as pre-pubescent like the word should imply. A 5 year old is so much different from a 14+ year old in terms of innocence level and if you say otherwise, I really don't understand where you're coming from.

>>507295314
>Women no matter the age are too immature to consent to anything
Based.

Therefore consent should be 100% up to the man.

>>507295367
>God calls you for judgement
>judgement for not following stinky laws
>the god of israel
ZOR Bot
Zionist
Occupied
Religion

>>507295700
>>507295855
Whatever God you believe in. Or if you don't, whatever moral compass you follow. You're outsourcing taking care of your family. Of your child. Of your young. To the government. A government (you) know is corrupt beyond belief. And if they say "okay, it's safe for you kid to cut his penor or get her cunt filled with cum if it's one in this particular way at this particular time", then you're saying "welp, the gov said it was okay, how was I to protect my child any more than that?"

You think that is living up to your responsiblity as a man?

women have an overwhelming instinct to basic ruin the world and make life as miserable as possible for everyone, but especially men
women have a deep, impossibly powerful urge to make everyone to be miserable, including themselves.

>>507290737 (OP)
Yeah that's bullshit. Age of consent was originally based on cultural and religious norms (usually between 18 and 25-ish, depending on what you mean by consent, the person's sex, social class, etc.). It was lowered in various places around the western world in order to cut down on pederasty prosecutions as economic conditions worsened and men started fucking younger and younger whores, as the traditional punishment for fucking kids was execution and they were worried about losing too much of the workforce.

>>507295943
>Whatever God you believe in. Or if you don't, whatever moral compass you follow. You're outsourcing taking care of your family. Of your child. Of your young. To the government. A government (you) know is corrupt beyond belief. And if they say "okay, it's safe for you kid to cut his penor or get her cunt filled with cum if it's one in this particular way at this particular time", then you're saying "welp, the gov said it was okay, how was I to protect my child any more than that?"
>You think that is living up to your responsiblity as a man?
Based.

>>507296171
>(usually between 18 and 25-ish,
Found the Karen feminist with their feminist lies and bullshit.

Most women were married by 12-14 for thousands of years.

>>507291477
Better question: Who the fuck actually cares? If a child gets fucked by some creep it's not the end of the world, that kid or baby will grow up normal. We shouldn't protect anyone from anything. You should only have to protect yourself and only yourself. Fuck literally every other Human

>>507296171
lol

>>507296280
you are a pedophile

>>507296493
>You should only have to protect yourself and only yourself. Fuck literally every other Human
THIS.

If everyone protected themselves and their own family, there wouldn't be any trouble in the world.

it's busy bodies that fuck shit up for everyone.

FUCK KARENS!

>>507296493
>that kid or baby will grow up normal.
Doubtful. Most homosexuals were raped or molested as children. So were those giga sluts.

>>507296811
Nope, not a homosexual either. Just believe in people should protect their own kind and it's NOT THE GOVERNMENTS JOB to get involved.

see >>507292184
My kids all got BD guns at 10 years old.

You are just a fag.

our view of sex is warped. I dont want anyone to get with ppl before bodies are ready. but minds? im more of a animal word type thing. if a cat can raise kids anyone can at any time. so what are they not ready for? sex, a body function? ok, so you stopped a 30 year old fucking an 18 year old, that 18 year old has fucked 20 ppl, 30 year old 1, who is using who? what if the 18 year old has an iq of 110 and the 30 year old iq 80. now what? what if two dudes are there, one 30 and one 18, she fucks the 30 year old, and everyone freaks out. what did the 30 year old do that the 18 year old wouldnt? 30 year old has more of a chance at making her cum, while 18 year old has no chance. 18 year old dude has more chances of using her than the 30 year old. when you really look at it, its all just jealousy. sex is nothing more than a big hug. and we make it out to be spiritual, like fucking angels shoot out your cock and infest the cunt. or some fucking thing. no, just have fun, dont fuck anyone whos bodies are not ready. stop the bullshit, cause the only excuse is "I am jealous"

>>507291477
when they have hair. full hair, down there not just a little. thats should be the point you can. cause we all age differently. the mind shit is bullshit. ive seen full retards have kids and look after them. bugs have sex mate, its nothing its a function of life. no spirits fly out of your cock. its ok.

>>507295943
Dude listen. We agree.
But the issue is this, your view doesn't work within a digital globalized, atomized, multiethnic low trust society.

Abolishing government control of AoC today would just spawn gangs of feral niggers ruining young girls.

We agree on what the wirld SHOULD be. But we need laws for what it IS.

>>507290737 (OP)
>Females younger than my current age are competition for men and shouldn't be allowed to date the same men I want to.
- Every aging single female

>>507295987
Yes

>>507297463
>Abolishing government control of AoC today would just spawn gangs of feral niggers ruining young girls.

Maybe in Australia where you can't protect yourself cause they took your guns, knives, sporks, pillows, etc.

>>507296493
Found the pedo tranny
>that kid or baby will grow up normal

Literally have centuries of data telling us otherwise

>>507297780
Yes.
Exactly.
You just agreed with me.

>>507290737 (OP)
Childless women over 25 should NEVER be taken seriously.

>>507290737 (OP)
>AOC law invented by eggless spinster