Thread 507324257

>unable to defeat the poorest country in europe
>somehow is a threat to the whole NATO

why is it like this?

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>>507324257 (OP)
Nothing is true anymore.

>>507324257 (OP)
>>unable
to satisfy your fantasy? They don't even try.
everything goes as it should for Russia

>>507324257 (OP)
because they are still suicidal lunatics
you can do a lot of damage even if you can not win a fight if self preservation is not a factor anyway

>>507324257 (OP)
Define "defeat". Afaik they are getting what they want so far.

>>507324646
Russia - 22090, of which: destroyed: 16947, damaged: 900, abandoned: 1175, captured: 3068
Losses excluding Recon Drones and Trucks - 17412, of which: destroyed: 13255, damaged: 795, abandoned: 1119, captured: 2243
Losses of Armoured Combat Vehicles [Tanks, AFVs, IFVs, APCs, and MRAPs] - 12964, of which: destroyed: 10029, damaged: 373, abandoned: 1020, captured: 1542

>>507324718
>they are getting what they want so far.
cope

>>507324257 (OP)
NATO has lost a war against Russia and it is hilarious. The entire butthurt belt is now shitting their pants.

>>507324257 (OP)
>whole of NATO pouring weapons, funding, and mercs into Ukraine
>still losing.
>Russia is outpacing the west’s arms replenishment rate because it is still industrialized and the west is not.
Lastly
>The Mackinder doctrine
That’s why.

>>507324718
>Gaining 5% more of Ukraine since 2014
Unless what they want is dead russians, they're not exactly getting much of anything. They also had more territory 2 years ago.

Dumb monkey soup enjoyer.

>>507324257 (OP)
>poorest country
lmao, that poorest country got same amount of gibs as your shithole in two decades

>>507324960
>>507325006
If your enemies kill your by the thousands without taking a single casualty, you win
Trudeau on /pol/ in 2025 was not on my bingo card.

>>507324952
>>507325082
It's time to wake up to reality and stop pretending.

>>507324718
lmao, maximum cope

>>507325179
That's.....a weird fucking insult, not gonna hold ya. Very turdie.

>>507325236
Disregarding the fact you're using gpt as a crutch like the exceptionally dumb brown nigger you are, it also doesn't even support your narrative. Lmao

>>507325221
The thing is, how much propaganda you believe is irrelevant to the truth.

People always ask a question and then when they get the real answer and don’t like it default to spouting whatever propaganda they believe as if that changes something.


The west is undoubtedly better at propaganda than Russia, Iran or China. Just look how they can flood this place with high quality propaganda at will. But the truth is….The West is the aggressor in these battles and if you read between the lines you’ll see the truth.

>>507325236
Imagine being so retarded that you ask ai to make a point on the Internet.

Russia was always interested in taking whole Ukraine, but somehow they convinced your ass that they are actually winning despite 1:5 casualties and controlling less land than 3 years ago

Also you are not white

>>507325236
how did it happen that a conflict of two countries having 2% of world GDP significantly impacted on the global economy and blahblah?

>>507325431
K, keep me posted, schizo

>>507325463
You can’t believe Ukrainian(or Russian) official figures as those are the first thing that states fake to sway the public opinion and the last several corpse exchanges have not reflected a 5:1 ratio in favor of Ukraine. Which is the best indicator we have so far.

>>507325688
Alright, a live shill is ITT already.
Further proving my point.

>>507325271
>>507325419
>>507325463
There comes a time in every person's life when they must stop lying to themselves and wake up to reality, before their self-deception costs them everything they claim to value.

>>507325419
You're a dumb brown nigger. 2-digits IQ dumbass. Go clean some dirty, negro.

>>507325463
Yeah, imagine being so retarded like you that you get easily brainwashed by media and have no clue about reality.
You live in a bubble, monkey.

>>507325006
>>whole of NATO pouring weapons,
Notice how hard it is to convince Germany to send Tauruses, also deep strikes into Russian territory were ok'd only recently, even recent strikes on Russian bombers was criticized in fear of escalation
Pretty strange that NATO need so much convincing since they are this satanic blood-thirsty entity which wants Russia dead because ??? idk
>funding,
0,5% of your gdp literal chump change
>and mercs into Ukraine
Yeah those billions of Polish HATO jewish nazi superniggers that singlehandedly invaded Kursk and killed millions of Donbabwe children, there's so much evidence of this happening I don't know which one to pick

>>507325463
"Russia was always interested in taking whole Ukraine..." This is a strong claim. While Russia's long-term ambitions regarding Ukraine are a subject of ongoing debate among historians and political analysts, it's difficult to definitively say they "always" intended to take the whole country. Their stated goals have shifted over time, and their initial invasion in 2022 certainly suggested a desire for regime change and control over significant portions of the country, if not all of it.

"...but somehow they convinced your ass that they are actually winning despite 1:5 casualties and controlling less land than 3 years ago."

"1:5 casualties": Casualty figures are notoriously difficult to verify independently during an ongoing conflict, and both sides have an interest in portraying favorable numbers. While many Western intelligence assessments suggest Russia has sustained very high casualties, a precise 1:5 ratio is a specific claim that would need strong, verifiable evidence to be considered completely true.
"controlling less land than 3 years ago": This refers to the situation before the full-scale invasion in February 2022. In 2021, Russia controlled Crimea (annexed in 2014) and parts of the Donbas region through proxy forces. After the 2022 invasion, Russia initially seized more territory, but Ukraine has since reclaimed significant portions. However, Russia does currently control more Ukrainian territory than it did immediately before the February 2022 invasion (i.e., more than just Crimea and the previously occupied parts of Donbas). The claim "less land than 3 years ago" (referring to June 2022) is incorrect if it implies less than pre-2022 levels, as Russia still occupies significant territory gained in 2022, even after Ukrainian counteroffensives. If it means less than their maximum territorial control after the 2022 invasion, then it is true that Russia controls less land than at its peak in the early months of the full-scale invasion.

>>507326339
>>You're a dumb brown nigger. 2-digits IQ dumbass. Go clean some dirty, negro.
Brown is seething and his english is breaking

>>507326629
Suck a dick, monkey. I'm whiter than you ;)
Brazil is not only Rio de Janeiro. Maybe you would know that if you had more than 2 brain cells and weren't a brainwashed american.

>>507326690
>>Suck a dick, monkey. I'm whiter than you
No, you're not. You're a shitskin who's seething that you got put in your place and was replying multiple times to the same post.
You're brown.

>>507326611
>copypasting chat gpt slop
Reminder that we're typing with literal, unironic macacas

>>507324257 (OP)
If russia wasn't the big boogeyman, then the west would have no excuse to pour ridiculous amounts of money into armaments industry

>>507326629
>>507326743
Also, my english is better than yours.
Go learn the difference between their and they're, your and you're, then you can talk to me.
Also teach your kids how to write and talk. It's cringe having to hear them use wrong words and butchering the english grammar in every video I watch.
K? thnx, bye, don't get caught in the gunfire lil monkey :)

BRICS trannies seething ahahahaha

>>507326960
You can use a camera, how cute. Now give the phone back to the owner and get off his arm

>>507324257 (OP)
You do know Ukraine is the 2nd largest country in Europe right?

>>507324718
Z

>>507324257 (OP)
Russia has been controlling Crimea, Luhank, Donetsk since 2014. What are you smoking nigga?

>>507324257 (OP)
Didn't America lose to Vietnam and Afghanistan?

>>507327097
Sucks to not always be as good as you have in your little mind, doesn't it? Cry a bit more, I don't mind it.

>>507324257 (OP)
Oh look a Polish butthurt post about Russia.

>>507326960
>>Also, my english is better than yours.
No, it isn't. Literally started breaking when you were seething up thread into incomprehensible niggerbabble.
You stole that photo or you're a redditor.
https://www.reddit.com/r/arm/comments/1dbfney/my_arm/
Brown subhuman thief, as usual.

>>507327291
>>507326960
Brown subhuman thief

>>507327325
And a redditor too

>>507324257 (OP)
They have nukes but they can't use them. That is the banality of war.

>>507327373
Didn't America lose to Vietnam and Afghanistan?

>>507324257 (OP)
LMAO are Poles this delusional?

>>507325179
This, more or less
Ukraine isn't the aggressor but they were still one of the most built up armies in Europe despite their relative poverty, and the fact that Russia is outproducing the entirety of NATO supplying them, along with French hardware failing spectacularly in the India-Pakistan conflict, is a watershed moment for the West clearly not being top dog or having their shit together anymore. Even mobilizing mass troops to Ukraine directly from elsewhere wouldn't entirely remedy this because the rearming efforts have been fucking pathetic and Russia has effectively fractured many Western states with Russophile politicians anyway. The unwillingness to escalate despite the invasion already being an escalation is also a major show of weakness.

People saying Russia won't recover after this are engaging in wishful thinking too. They'll have more resources and more territory, with more people from those territories they can mobilize to cover losses. Plus allied states like China are only getting stronger.

>>507324718
so Ukraine is de-nazified, demilitarized, Russian is the state language, government is pro-russian and Crimea is internationally recognized as rightful Russian soil???

>>507324257 (OP)
>>unable to defeat the poorest country in europe
able. They can do it. If this keeps going Russia will win. But it's going to claim an ungodly amount of lives from both sides and take many years. The real question is why the fuck is Putin willing to sacrifice so many of his people for conquest? It's clearly not an act of self defense. At least not any more. If you ever disagree, look at the number of casualties. Being the attacking force in a trench war, to the point where you need barrier troops to kill your own people, is not self defense.

>>507324257 (OP)
>poorest country in europe
Wait, is Russia at war with Moldavia?

>>507327325
Every fucking time

>>507327457
>internationally recognized as rightful Russian soil???

Why should they care about this, as long as they control Crimea?

>>507327511
Ukriane is definitely poorer than Moldova.

>>507327397
>>507327426
Do you think a memeflag changes your ID or something?

>>507324257 (OP)
Ukraine doesn't have the manpower to beat Russia. No amount delusional posts are going to change that.

>>507327397
>>507327426
Organic.

>>507327478
>At least not any more
It never was. They've been "defending" themselves against states they invade while pretending Ukraine was going to flatten Moscow for a while now. Nobody actually believes the denazification excuse. People just support them out of vague anti-western sentiment and because they play to strongman politics against enemies they know are hesitant.

>>507326743
>You're brown.

>>507327535
that's what they want

>>507327786
Um Ukraine has always been under Russian sphere. They don't want them to join NATO, and they won't as long as Ukraine has disputed lands.

>>507327951
That's just a bonus, Crimea is de facto Russian, and they have full control, that's all that matters.

>>507327887
They're getting so uppity on this board nowadays, truly

>>507327457
nato is demilitarized by now
you’re right to be nervous

>>507327535
you have to understand Polen is Reddit the country
they care about upvotes

>>507324257 (OP)
It was never about whether Russia can defeat NATO, it obviously can't. It's about how many pointless white deaths Russia can cause before they get their shit kicked in

>>507324257 (OP)
Nato is losing. What happens when you press it now? My bet is nothing.

>>507324639
>>507324548

>>507328033

>>507328164
NATO is fake and under control of Jews just like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and the USA. They will cause WWIII soon

>>507327988
>Ukraine has always been under Russian sphere.
Because Russia consistently threatens their neighbors with military aggression. Also nice English, retard.
>They don't want them to join NATO
Because they don't want countries they border to have defensive alliances so they can invade them easier
>and they won't as long as Ukraine has disputed lands
You mean the land of sovereign neighbors they want to invade. Despite already being the largest territorial empire on earth

>>507324718
favela monkey made the nafo trannies seethe lol

>>507328128
Nobody cares about mongoloid ukranin after even one single Russian died. The value of a white Russian is so much more than urkanian mongol rapebabies what we have to kill a million of them for one Russian just to be even in terms of a loss of human capital. And thus even current count of ~80k of Russians dead versus one million plus of the ukranians is not enough to stop killing them allowed to us by law and morality. Good guys have to teach subhumans civilization from time to time of they succumb to their natural animal -orc state.

>>507324823
why did you have to hide your flag to post obvious bullshit?

>>507324257 (OP)
>32 cunts
>the so-called mighty alliance
>can't defeat 1 country for almost 3 years
Why are europoors like that?

>>507328704
>white russian
No such thing exists. Russians are muslims and asiatic mongoloids

>>507328057
Ukraine could just bomb Crimea government building and kill all the politicians just like Israel did and Crimea is no longer russian.
How about that.

>>507324257 (OP)
the fear of nukes is why

>>507324257 (OP)
Its better to be safe than sorry.

>>507329717
Reddit the country moment

>>507327988
>They don't want them to join NATO
And Trump has already said Ukraine is not joining NATO so what's the problem?
The problem is Russia and Ukraine absolutely refuse to compromise.
Russia wants Ukraine to be reduced + neutral + demilitarized. That's bullshit. Every country should be able to defend themselves either by themselves or by alliance.
Ukraine wants to keep their 1991 borders. Which is understandable, but also completely unrealistic against Putin.
So here we are, with no end in sight.

>>507325236
>UMM CHATGPT PLEASE WIN THIS INTERNET ARGUMENT FOR ME
Are browns really like this?
Also what is fucking wrong with capcatcha, wasnt here for few months

>>507330182
Compromise only works if you have leverage and Russia has both better materiel and mobilization at the moment, diplomacy for Ukraine right now only means giving Russia time to recuperate before they're whittled away again.

>>507330399
Well it depends on what you value, right? Putin can save thousands of Russians (and Ukrainians) from dying in war if he gives up some of his ambitions. But I guess lines on a map is more important to him right now.

>>507330591
Of course it is. Hell, the more Russian boys die the less veteran pensions his govt has to pay. So killing his own soldiers is preferable to them being injured. He can just replace them with browns afterwards like he's already promising

>>507324257 (OP)
Russia is fully able to beat Ukraine. They control 20% of its land for 3 years already and getting more every week while killing the enemy manpower on the front.
Russia is a threat the the whole NATO because of nukes and because NATO is retarded. USA fucking all and every ally of theirs just to remain the "top dog" is not helping either.

NATO is scared because russia fights to the last orc. (apart from rich people who can bribe their way out)
Putin doesn't care how many die, russians, Eastern Ukranians (which putin thinks are russians, but kills them anway) Western Ukranians (nazis apparently), NATO does care about losses and it's the first time they've been actually tested, and now its apparent it's a huge, complicated, red-tape filled woke-brigade, not a decision making force to be reckoned with.

>>507325236
>proofs of russia is violent nigger rogue state

Go back to HIVkraine cock hole

Btw anyone knows why Russia don't publish data on their HIV rates anymore?

>>507332811
Russophobia cures HIV though

>>507324257 (OP)
Nukes and constant nuke threats.

>>507327535
> Why should they care about this, as long as they control Crimea?
Coz sanctions? Not even Chinese AliExpress allows shipping there. Sure it's just the ordinary people that suffer, those in charge give fuck all about them.

>>507328057
> Crimea is de facto Russia
But with no water :(((((
::thirsty::

>>507334849
They have sea around them, are they stupid?

>>507330182
Russia never said they wanted to de-arm ukraine. Fucking retards everywhere

>>507326459
>you live in a bubble he says, on 4cvck
lmao

>>507336056
>Russia never said they wanted to de-arm ukraine.
Point 5.

>>507337443
It cleary says they can have an army, tranny faggot shill.

>>507326960
Good job crying to the mods and getting me banned for calling you brown after you got called out for stealing this picture of a White man's arm
I'll crush your windpipe with my hand, fucking brown monkey thief spic

>>507337667
the process of reducting your army is de-militarization by def. zigger

>>507324823
I also wrote some fanfiction today. Keep it up anin and we'll make it as writers one day.

>>507324257 (OP)
>somehow is a threat to the whole NATO
Necessary rhetorical posture.
Germanys 'constitution' article 26 outlaws wars of aggression.
For Germany to rearm, and for Germany to pay for others rearmament, it has to be a 'defensive' situation.

>>507337667
You better be russian shill because otherwise your retardation is beyond comprehension.

>>507324718
>Tf
>Tp
Kek right on time

>>507324257 (OP)
Any aggression is a threat.
The issue isn't that Russia might attack NATO and win, it's that it might attack NATO and all, and by attacking NATO, force NATO countries to spend money and send its citizens into battle to be wounded, maimed or traumatized to win a war that offers no material benefit beyond continued existence.

Traditionally, deterrence has been enough to discourage shitholes like Russia from crossing that line. Which is good. Once again, all NATO has to gain from war against an aggressor is continued peaceful existence. We can also continue to peacefully exist if we just deter adversaries from fucking around. If an adversary becomes so unhinged, deranged and otherwise suicidal that deterrence is no longer effective, we may be forced into a wasteful, pointless conflict just so a failing race can commit-suicide-by-NATO like so many middle eastern regimes have already done. Nobody relishes that. And in the process, people will die, land will be shelled, cratered and burned in the process of doing battle and cities and their infrastructure may be struck by missiles and their populations terrorized. Nobody sane likes war. It has nothing to do with who would win and everything to do with not wanting to play a stupid game.

>>507324257 (OP)
Because the poorest country is effectively a proxy state for nafo. If you take ten million niggers, abduct them from their households, train them and arm them per your own standards, then continuously brainwash them, you effectively have a proxy army of niggers devoted to you

>>507324257 (OP)
>unable to defeat the poorest country in europe
>somehow is a threat to the whole NATO
>Russia is about to invade Europe, we need to mobilize all resources and increase weapons production

fixed

The answer is very simple: the gigantic scale of corruption in the EU. This war makes it possible to launder huge sums of money on “aid” to Ukraine.

>>507324257 (OP)
It's funny when they threaten like they can invade Poland or Finland but they're nearly getting BTFO by Ukraine. They won't have any young people left after this war given their declining birth rate as well.

>>507340679
This. Soon NATO will be marching in Moscow, they just hide it from you and say Russia is very dangerous because they want to surprise you.

Russia losing

There is a frightening amout of people in this thread who seem to think Germany won WW2 by the things they are things mentioned here, its so weird.
Why acting so cocky online? Could that be translated in actual results? because as far I can tell the map grows bigger—slowly, albeit steadily— on the russian side.

>>507325519
>significantly impacted on the global economy
lol
what makes you think it did

>>507324257 (OP)
>the show must go on
if it wasn't like that how would they extract all that tax money from us?

>>507340926
This war has done terrible damage to the European economy, virtually deindustrializing Europe, as well as significant reputational damage, exposing corruption and theft and devaluing duplicitous European values in the eyes of the world. The longer this goes on, the less NATO will resist during a war with Russia, which we know is already being planned ( >>507341003 ). The war in Ukraine is a war of attrition for NATO.
You are incredibly stupid.

>>507340005
You are a shill
Likely a troon

Russia will let them keep 300,000 troops, still the largest force in europe. And how will they pay for thier army? Is the EU going to pay them until the end of time?

Oh wait, you are a to the last ukrainian faggot

>>507338668
You did not read the post I was replying to, tranny faggot

>Russia wants Ukraine to be reduced + neutral + demilitarized. That's bullshit. Every country should be able to defend themselves either by themselves or by alliance.

>300,000 troops
>defenseless

>>507341490
Wow, a simple map made you type all this out?
Are you okay anon?

>>507325236
Brown people using AI to get their talking points is my favorite genre.

>>507341707
>uhhh gayse gains don’t matter until they do ok?

>>507341707
Come home, why aren't you fighting?

>>507341840
That’s why you see a lot of ukranny shills abusing chatgpt these days

>>507341490
>virtually deindustrializing Europe
it was already on the path of deindustrialization
if anything, the war highlighted the urgency and importance to reindustrialize

>>507341919
Are you alright?

>>507341952
>Come home
But I am home.

>>507341969
>importance to reindustrialize
Except it requires cheap resources that don't exist anymore. Don't be smart.

>>507342232
>Still didnt fix the constant spammage of the lights on lights off notification
it has been 11 years, pidor. cant you guys produce something of better quality already

I mean here we can literally see the desperation.

>>507342487
>Suicide.
Kek
“Russian Fatalist” - superhuman according to Nietzsche, subhuman nigger.

>>507342526
I like how you sent your young first.

>>507324257 (OP)
We gave ukraine over 100 billion dollars

>>507342710
>>Suicide.
>If I kill myself, the czar wins

>>507342934
pooplack = usrainian

One nation - one toilet in Germany

>>507342961
Thats it? Still collages of Ukrainian corpses?
Dont you even have 1 proper suicide video?
I know there is one....

>>507343066
>he is both a newfag and experienced very low quality education
rough

>>507341506
So you dumb ass nigger started with
>Russia never said they wanted to de-arm ukraine.
to finish with
>Russia will let them keep 300,000 troops (with no heavy weapons btw)
I was wrong. You are both shill and permanently brain damaged tranny-seeker.

>>507341658
the process itself is called demilitarization. if you have 5 and reduce it to 1 it called demilitarization. if you have 1 and increase it to 5 its called militarization. the number itself is not the point the point is the action
nigger

>>507343075
>europooristan
>thinks I need to learn about sorts of shit
No, nigger.

>>507343149
De-arm means no arms, tranny faggot shills hate definitions.

The pro-Ukraine bot farm niggers have spammed the entire time that Russia is incapable and too incompetent to defeat Ukraine but at the same time the niggers say Russia is about to invade all of Europe imminently. Obviously it is all propaganda to present Russia as weak and nearly infinitely powerful and scary at the same time. Also the pro-Ukraine bot farm spammers spam this shit at Western audiences in English while pretending that they are talking to Russians

>>507343713
Holy shit you cant even read properly
In any case: As you watch this webm that could as well be a horror movie, remember that Europa begged you not to start this war.
Begged you.
Now look at them.

>>507343862
>Russia is incapable and too incompetent to defeat Ukraine
facts on the ground bear this out.

>Russia is about to invade all of Europe imminently
note imminent is not competent, this too is true and bore out by facts on the ground....any questions?

>>507343862
or russia cant defeat ukraine and in their hubris they think still they can take on all of europe at the same time
fits the pattern of a russian mind totally reason be damned

>>507343734
Thanks for proving your retardation. Hope you will find your tranny wife and be happy together.

>>507343962
>Europa
>white man!! enlist for ukranny NOW
>nafo MIC wants you to!! it’s based and trad

>>507346880
>Does not react to his countrymens suffering at all
>Barfs out a few buzzwords in a language thats not his own, but he still learned
based

>>507344797
We don’t give a shit about you nigger, all the warmongering I’ve heard for the last 6 months was going from nafo nigger retards crying wolf and inducing hysteria by the clock

>>507347005
>roflmao RUZZIANZ! consoom my propaganda by terror
>White Man! please enlist for nafo ok

>>507347008
>We don’t give a shit about you nigger
You dont give a shit about anything.
You are a completely broken psychotic nation.

>>507324257 (OP)
Ukraine has the strongest army in Europe, if they're gone the rest is a piece of cake.

Same reason why russia is attacking Germany and ignoring UK and France: Germany is the NATO(EU powerhouse.

>>507347215
Cool, when are you going back?

>>507347133
>ruzzianz can’t be argued with!! they can’t be reasoned with!!!
>russians offered peace talks as of March 2022? which were torpedoed by BoJo, as ukranny PM admitted????? AAAAHHHHHH LIES OK SAAR
I spit in your nafo nigger face

pidoranny lost

>>507347337
>>russians offered peace talks as of March 2022?
So you admit russia only offered a diplomatic solution after they sent 200.000+ soldiers and 1000+ vehicles over the Ukrainian border already?
Why?
What happened with those?
And why didnt Russia look for a diplomatic solution before?
>IT WAS BOJO
lmao rent free

>>507347337
>I spit in your nafo nigger face
For that, you would need to be able to afford to be near me.
And you cant.

>>507324257 (OP)
poorest country of Europe ?
The West has turned Ukraine into the most powerful army in Europe and still is unable to beat Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

>>507347337
I would do the same but your cumrades do it all day, indeed, sane people will kill you all before submit to your trash-tier country you little expendable slave.