Or at least to stop bickering about it so much?

On one side you have christianity, which has embedded itself into european culture and civilization but is undeniably NOT the originator, as pagans rightfully claim, the birthplace of european civilization was pagan greece and later on rome.

The faults of christianity are that it is inherently judeocentric, universalist and a globalist religion. Even assuming for the sake of the argument that it is true and that it is anti-talmudic judaism, it is still very easy to subvert and for it to be weaponized against europeans, seen by the typical weak cuck mentality of a vast majority of christians who see absolutely no problem with the browning of white countries "as long as they're christian bro", and the subversion of the churches, who become willing participants in the process of the european invasion.

On the other side you have pagans, whose beliefs have mostly been destroyed, for example there are little to no dacian records, you can't follow the dacian pagan beliefs without making shit up, and following any other pagan religion is nearly impossible because both christians and jews made sure to destroy most records of those beliefs. Most pagans seem to not follow it in any meaningful way and rather claim to be pagans just to spite christians and other religions they see as a jewish cult.

So both paths have more or less outlived their usefulness, christianity disarms, divides, and gets rid of your in group preference, making it impractical, and paganism is nearly impossible to follow in the modern day and further adds to the division.

What's the solution here?

>>507336649 (OP)
The only cross I worship is the Swastika

>>507336702
We dont need religion anyway

Pagans sacrifice animals like barbarians. Imagine a European country still sacrificing animals today, like pagan Europe before Christianity—absolutely barbaric. Unimaginable today. And besides, if the Jews had accepted Jesus, there wouldn't have been a split between Christianity and Judaism.

>>507337029
that doesn't really change my argument. Most of christianity's commands are also ignored or morphed through catholicism or other interpretations by modern day christians

>>507336649 (OP)
it's just fake d&c kikery
same as: brown eyes aren't white

>>507337190
right, so what's the solution?

>>507337229
TKD

>>507336649 (OP)
>>507336957
>>507337229
https://youtu.be/Y3dxsA1LRNE?

Why do we need a religion?
Our religion should be TKD, first and foremost, maybe after that we can agree on a religion.

>>507337029
And yet, most people in the west eat animals and kill millions of them every day. What's the difference if it's a "sacrifice" or them being killed because of other motives. Fuck off retard, you're point is braindead, like your pathetic attempt to make christcuckery palpable again.

>>507337229
final

>>507337584
because it is a deeply embedded part of any civilization and at this point could be argued to have become baked into the human psyche.

>>507336649 (OP)
>What's the solution here?
Slow, long-term reconstruction. Completely remove the status of all abrahamic faiths as tax-exempt, remove them from civic life and promote and perform nature-centric rituals. State-enforced exercise in the woods.

>OY VEY
>THE GOYIM ARE ORGANIZING
>UHH UHH YOU GOYS HAVE TO AGREE ON SOME DESERT CULT!
lol, no.

>>507337653
>>507337293
you're not understanding my point.

>>507337661
So what?

>>507337728
Sperging about killing Jews is literally the only discourse they're capable of at this point.

>>507336649 (OP)
It wasn't hard back then but NAtional ZIonism was a psy op.

>>507337029
You drink the blood and eat the flesh of your Jewish messiah while your priests molested your young boys.

You are not one to point fingers

>>507336649 (OP)
We don't take our heathen gods literally. We know how wind works. The god of wind is impartial, representative of the force, not human-like with emotion. We don't need to hide that it's created, we have to explain why.

>>507337725
Where are the goyim organizing exactly? that's why i made this thread, because this issue seems to be a big problem and point of infighting preventing white nationalists from organizing to achieve political power or at the very least form advocacy groups.
>hey man we're getting replaced here we need to advocate for our own
>shut the fuck up christfaggot go fuck yourself with your dead jew on a stick
>yeah? fuck you too tree worshiping hippie go pray to your marvel gods

>>507336649 (OP)
Pride.

>>507337899
>Where are the goyim organizing exactly
Wouldn't you like to know

>>507337773
so it needs to be addressed in order to form a cohesive society?

>>507336649 (OP)
Nice try rabbi / Nick Fuentes / Ben Shapiro.

>>507337661
>you NEED religion, goy!
Youre the samw shill bot who spams the "atheists have a suicide problem" threads arent you?

>>507337939
>>507338029
yes, agent hitler, FBI here. please tell me exactly where you plan to organize and march around because that's what i'm asking, i'm not asking a philosophical question so we can get rid of one of the biggest points of contention that cause white infighting

>>507336649 (OP)
Here's how I'd do it:
>stress on education
Explain the origins of the Abrahamic faiths, this alone does the job of removing their "divinity"
>explain how the infiltrated Europe
>remove all special statuses and protections from law
>base new holidays on slavo/bulgaric known traditions
>amp up the free time for people, amp up some state-sponsored festivals
not that hard tbqh

>>507338138
no, i am not

>>507337890
Only papists believe the bread and wine literally transform into Jesus' flesh and blood.

europe religion is christianity, then if you move from that its philosophy and then whoever wins the debates me,

heres the result : theres probably a god, we live in gods mind and laws of physics and matter are just gods wmind/will. already live in the spiritual world. an afterlife is possible and the most likely way to get there is karma points based on a real pro life morality instead of release the murderer fake and gay shit somehow inspired by rleigion yet leaving the good parts (death penalty) so basically jews doing philosophy without rleigion except theyre dumb so their conclusion are retarded (see normies or browns) thats about it. gays are fags and people ar emorons who shill fpor their personal shit which means no non natives in important institutions, no gays, no sociopaths, and minimum voting age or right to expres your voice = 30 years old; native, no criminal record, >100 IQ at school; and make something based on truth and who wins debates rather that the number of hands that get up. gays are fags and trannies are gays. gamecube was a great console. thats it, thats the western non religious philosophy based religion hope u like it leave a like comment down below

>>507338169
so you're saying that every european region with their own gods should stick to them and their version of paganism, primarily centered on known traditions and holidays (like our mask-costume scare-the-evil away dances we do around winter)

>>507338140
>not worshipping a jew causes Whites to infight!
>You're trying to D&C

>>507337229
the solution is to not belogn to a sect or use a movement to pass your personal beliefs and focus on our commons grounds instead of trying to push your perosnal shit like a sect cultist cocksucker who cant eat with someone if they dont agree with them on 100% of their opinions

>>507338325
you're literally arguing against me with my points by attacking an argument nobody made

because whites don't have souls and are golems

which is why they pick the religion where they're forced to obey what jews tell them

>>507337943
Religion has done nothing but enslave and repress us. There, it's been addressed.

>>507338400
Not gonna happen, you will never be French Mohamed

>>507338467
atheists behave the same way harder even look at leftists its not religion its just youth ignorance and retardation we all go through that to some extent

>>507338465
>by attacking an argument nobody made
Its one of the most common arguements that gets repeated so often that an entire meme library has been created in response.

>>507338527
bot is broken and makes no sense help

>>507338400
great idea, how do we convince the normies to do it? that's my question. There are infinite numbers of orthodox/catholics who take it super seriously, some hate even protestants let alone pagans. And the pagans that do exist are largely so because they reject christianity

>>507338467
pagan rome and greece existed

>>507336649 (OP)
Christianity is the ancient version of leftist liberalism like what we have now.

when we talk about paganism we aren't necessarily talking about neo-paganism, this confusion is used by chrisanzees, every neo-pagan is pagan but not every pagan is neo-pagan
pagan, by the very definition and usage by abrahamics, is fundamentally simply a group of people who do not take the torah and other jewish scriptures seriously

NS Germany's paganism was above all, far more importantly than the stuff about ancient Germanics, a spiritual movement that placed a new idea above abrahamic scriptural supremacist, the mythos of the blood. This was not simply "neo-paganism", it was't a mere attempt to imitate older forms, but to rekindle something primordial in the era of machines and planes and global spanning empires

the reason this is such a pressing issue is that Europeans can't afford to be dragged around by universalistic, guilt-based ideologies anymore, it's a matter of life and death to reconstruct a source of identity that is once again specific, provincial, in one word, PAGAN

>>507338543
and you're responding to me and my points by attacking what others say, independently of me, and actually in direct contradiction to me

>>507338639
>we

>>507336649 (OP)
actually the birthplace of European civilization was Tyre, hence Europe being named after a Phoenician princess

>>507338639
so what you're saying is that national socialism is a semi religion and can take that place in a society?

>>507338654
Im just getting directly to the points you are sneakily building up to.

>>507338727
oh sorry I'm high
Greece was indeed the birthplace (Boeotian Thebes rihgt?), just not the progenitor

>>507336649 (OP)
Because 'white nationalist' usually overlaps strongly with 'disagreeable dipshit', that's why.

>>507338323
Yes, and you'll find that our cultures have more in common with our neighbours than with... you know, the desert people.

>>507338789
literal schizophrenia.
>i am arguing against points you didn't make, but i know you're going to make, even though you argued against them in this very thread

>>507338569
you dont talk about it you just push the core shit without adding stuff

"White nationalist" (oxymoron term btw) trying to deny the truth that purity of spirit trumps purity of race.

This is why you people will always be the trash of the European ideological and philosophical canon.

>>507338639
>the reason this is such a pressing issue is that Europeans can't afford to be dragged around by universalistic, guilt-based ideologies anymore, it's a matter of life and death to reconstruct a source of identity that is once again specific, provincial, in one word, PAGAN

>>507338773
NS religiosity specifically will have to be readapted in the 21st century since things have changed but yes, in my opinion this was the last true spiritual revival in Europe in centuries, it gave Germans(but it could've to other Europeans) a genuine source of meaning that christians in their third world frenzy have decided to give up on

>>507336649 (OP)
Christfags care about religion. The rest of us only care about race. Christcucks can join the rest of us an we will accept them or they can continue being part of the problem, that's basically where we are at.

>>507338947
well obviously, but i mentioned this in the op, we have lost so many records of those beliefs that it's pretty hard and impractical to practice such a religion beyond well maintained rituals. There is no "bible" of roman paganism for example

>>507338966
Or I just know how things work because the exact same threads get posted semi-daily.

>>507336649 (OP)
I agree that the only religion of national socialism should be Neoplatonism. Anything else is insulting towards the movement

>>507338991
would you rather allow 1000 european pagans (odin worshipers) into your country or 1000 strict, christian sub saharan africans

>>507336649 (OP)
Noone has an answer for you. I tried asking this question in wn spaces and they just get offended and call you a jew for going into this line of thought. People want to make fun of christianity or make fun of pagans or make fun of whatever but they never want to think about reality and solutions.
For example look at this guy >>507338138
he immediately assumes you're a groyper and tries to shoot in the dark some random bullshit instead of addressing the point.
The real answer is that we need a new thing. The discussion should be what new thing are we going to make. I have some ideas but what I realized is that it's not worth it. Let's judge it by the quality replies you get itt if I'm wrong or not.

>>507339164
He won't answer you but we all know the answer

>>507339060
>There is no "bible" of roman paganism for example
Yeah, that's probably for the better. "Christian" normies have not even seen one, completely irrelevant, you just gotta do the festivals right and put in some reason why people are jumping over a fire.

>>507338400
Correct, but people are stupid and fanatic, especially kikes and slimes (not Christians; these are stupid cucks instead).
On one side I don't give a shit about religion. OTOH "beard man mad" is useful to prevent some of the imbecile from committing crimes and costing us dearly.
I'd support a version of Greek and Roman paganism but where new ideas are openly accepted except if they're kike/slime shit, and where people put their families, loved ones and lives above ideology and belief.
But there's no way to transform what's left of Europe into that.

>>507336649 (OP)
Seems a Jewish distraction. Approach it like the Nazis did. Not persecute, but just let them be, and monitor. Execute any weird cults, etc. of course but NPCs need this it seems. Keeps them in check even when it doesn't.

>>507339060
Kid you not, I think the best way is to start shilling on instag, hype up said fire jumping, coal walking, etc, promote physicality and mysticism rather than dogma and wheeping. The best way to counter cucktian stodgy dogma is with fresh openness.

>>507339274
>The real answer is that we need a new thing.
No we dont. We already have what we need right in front of us which is ourselves. Thats what we need to "worhip but that word is a disgusting sand nigger word.

>>507339069
well you'll have to wait a long LONG time to see that from me. I'm trying to argue in good faith

>>507339274
We legitimately do not need a religion anymore.
We have access to all the world's spiritual systems and philosophies. People can figure out what works for them. They can access the divine in whatever form and to whatever extent they wish.
We can't go back to the time when people were illiterate and believed whatever their priests told them about their uniquely correct holy books.

>>507339568
He knows, he's just being a faggot

>>507339164
The christians, obviously. European supremacy is precipitated on thought and spirit, not genes. But you people just don't want to admit this.

Let me ask you this, where are the true pagan worshipers today? Can you find a single one?

>>507336649 (OP)
The only religion that centers its believers as the superior race is Judaism, there's no other religion that fits either you rid yourself of the racial construct and make a society that doesn't focus on race or come up with a new religion that venerates your racial bloodline.

>>507339274
>>507339464
There's no going back lads, I'm in the "new thing" camp. Fashwave edits are a great way to capture the youth and focus on master virtues. We can build on the myths of the past, but world has changed. There is only forward.

>>507336649 (OP)

BECAUSE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT GOD IS/ARE

That fucker dosent even have to explain himself for you. He just have to kick your shit in if dosent like you. Thats his main game.

>WHAT IS GOD

Its none of your business.

>>507336649 (OP)
The solution is to stop distracting ourselves with made up nonsense, and instead focus on things which are real.

>>507337604
lmao fuck off shitskin, your people are inbred and subhuman

>>507339714

>>507339714
>European supremacy is precipitated on jewish thought and jewish spirit
lmao
dunecoons had literally nothing before they coopted rome

>>507339805
god is everything, which is effectively the same as nothing

>>507339628
we need desperately what religions used to monopolize and provide, communal anti-individualistic meaning that is capable of making people exert themselves for more than mere bare individual survival
the nationalist mythos I believe still would have some strength if kindled properly, albeit unlike in the 19th and 20th century, it must be more than provincialism, the era of racial blocks is upon us whether we like it or not, and in this sense Americans are actually more redpilled, by chance, than Europeans who often till get caught in provincial meme battles when the third world is quickly pouring in

Autisticaly arguing about Christianity is part of why we are in this mess nowadays.

>>507339946
Our myths are very real, brother. Stonehenge is worth to me 10,000 more than St Paul's in London.

>>507340074
why are you so desperate to control other people

>>507340086
Oh yeah?

>>507340143
because humans are social animals and those who cooperate win over those who don't

>>507339714
If your god is so great why did he create noggers and Jews? Why did he create Lucifer? It's time to grow the fuck up and stop believing in Jewish fairy tales and stop worshiping a literal dead kike and either turn back to the gods your ancestors worshiped since the beginning of our existence or just be an agnostic or an atheist. Christniggardry is spiritual poison.

>>507339978
Not taking any sides here,just want to kindly remind you that your "based white europeans" see romanians as a bunch of swarthy scamming slavoid low iq gyppsies and hate your guts. Just leaving this little fact here.

>>507340237
the national socialists allied with romania. They were germany first, obviously, and did everything in their power to use the chess pieces on the board to the best of their ability. They held no inherent hatred towards romanians, and my family had only good things to say about the germans they met in person during the war

>>507340391
I wasn't talking about the 40's little bro

>>507340195
you talk about the superiority of your people but you only see your people as cattle to manipulate the same way your enemies do
you want them to bleed and die on the altar of your ideals

>>507340237
I refuse to believe that romania is 100% gyppo

>>507340195
True. But then you make a small circle to fight a big circle. Losing is evitable.

Small guild vs Big guild. The outcome is obvious.

>>507340554
Officially, it's 3.4%
Unofficially, it's 10%

>>507340200

I really don't understand nazi hatred of christianity when it is a literal theological rejection of the tenets of judaism.

What is more funnier is that your hatred of them is nothing compared to some christian lords back in the day lol

Is it because he asks us to turn the other cheek, that you see that as a weakness which you cannot show to your common man and god? Probably.

>>507340237
Anglo-American here. I get told constantly that "white" doesn't exist and it's a concept that my people invented. So I get to decide who is white. I think you guys are white. There, that's settled, then.

>>507340487
ideas have changed since the 2000s when gypsies were leaving here and flooding the west, most of them know the difference now, and even the ones that do not, have we given them any reason to think otherwise? Have we stripped the foreign element of our citizenship, have we bettered our conduct among the native population, have we independently achieved civilizational successes? You cannot blame them for thinking so when that is all you have shown.

>>507340680
>Why do the hardcore anti-internationalist hyper nationalists hate a globalist borderless religion

The true white man's religion.

>>507340680
No answer my question faggot. If your god is so great why did he create niggers and Jews and Lucifer? Why did he make the forbidden fruit? And don't say "to test them" because he would have already known the answer so there wouldn't be any point except to create creatures to torment. Answer the question or fuck off.

>>507340554
It doesn't matter what romania is, most whites in UK,Germany,Italy and france had bad encounters with gypsies and all of them assume that we're all the same. I don't blame them, our reputation is forever ruined but I just wanted to remind him that they hate us like he wouldn't believe.White european s don't see us as white and they would never accept us into a 4th reich as their equal. At best they would see us as a necesarry pawn on their chess board,more like a buffer zone between the enemy and their countries.

>>507340845
you need to go back

>>507340547
people are social and hierarchical animals, some tell them what to do and it's what's good for them, you aren't being a smartass by missing the 101 of human social interactions because you just happen to be born on the cusp of an unprecedented historical period where your play-pretend nihilism doesn't bite you back at the expense of the toil your predecessors had to undergo to allow you this privilege, but it won't last
if it's not me, someone else will, that's how it has always been

>>507340916
There isn't going to be a 4th reich so you don't need to worry about that lol

>>507337029
Muslims sacrifice animals still today

>>507340916
it's not forever ruined. It's only ruined in the current state. Feelings have already started to change since they had to deal with other, worse types of invaders and had good experiences with ethnic romanians. Do you think we wouldn't be able to turn it around if we made our country great, independently?

>>507340983
Yeah I know.. whatever it would be called if there would be something similar to that in the next 100 years romanians would not be seen as their equal but like a bunch of gypsy peasants that they have to put up with.

>>507336649 (OP)
>What's the solution here?
Wrong problem statement. You are just repeating the pilpol bullshit. It's a personal choice. Stay the fuck out of it and go back to Israel, rabbi.

>>507340547
He wants them to live, thrive, and die(inevitable regardless of anything else) in a system made for them. You'll never understand how transparent this sensationalist reductionism you attempt to use is.

>>507340967
You are not going to become the dictator of Italy, Mr. anonymous nobody on a degenerate anime forum.

>>507341262
give a single example of a society without hierarchy, without top-down-rule. Without leaders and followers.

>>507336649 (OP)
Religion is just hope. There is no reason to agree on how.
However the tendency of religions to subdivide nations has to be acknowledged.

>>507341262
me? definitely not, but I can only hope someone better than me in every way does, for my own sake and those of my similar
good luck getting turned into an organ donor by cartels

>>507341058
Even then we would be seen as "the gyppsies with a decent country". Great is a strong word, I don't think romania can be great in this century. Maybe 2250 will be our golden decade.

>>507341210
I've been here long enough to see how all of the racial nationalists hate the majority of their race. And the ones they don't hate, they have contempt for.

>>507336649 (OP)
The concept of religion in the west itself is tainted by a judaic interpretation, this is why the modern pagans feel cringe, because their interpretation of what is religion, is also Judaic in origin. People need to return to engaging with their local community, having interesting events, celebrating traditions and their own families and successes.

>>507341313
I didn't say anything against having leaders.

>>507341365
just silly 200 years ago non-whites weren't considered american in anyway regardless of them living in america, today they are seen by the masses to be as american as apple pie, so long as they are born there, Same as europe, which would have been unthinkable merely 100 years ago.

>>507337029
You sacrificed your own god to absolve you of the original sin that he himself gave you
>if jews had accepted jesus
Jews are a different race, and have been since long before christ. Why can you niggers never understand racial diff-
>memeflag
heh

>>507341412
You've demonstrated that you're a poor observer with a bias to obvious it might as well be tattooed on your forehead. The kind of person that will lie about anything and build a legion of straw men.

>>507340700
I'll give you a recent example,look at how they laughed on twitter when the india accident happened and there was a headline about a "british survivor",obviously jeet, they all made memes about him not being british . They never do that when there's a headline like 'romanians selling fake watches in Chicago' or whatever. Youtube is full of videos with gypsies stealing from americans and the comments are all mentioning them being romanians. just one example, another one would be the recent irish protests

>>507341671
k

>>507336649 (OP)
>gypsy has an opinion
When are you going back to India jeet.

>>507341493
but you did say something about "Seeing people as cattle to be manipulated" which just isn't the point. People are emotional beings, they are easily misled and controlled when in a group. They need a rational, leader. One of them, not chosen by the emotional masses, not 10 leaders for a tribe. And that rational leader needs to do what is best for the people to make their life good. That implies "moving them like chess pieces", towards what is best for them. The alternative is that the leader hates the people and tries to steer them to their doom, as is the case in the west today.

>>507341538
see >>507341723 .

>>507341723
yes, because british people are close to them, or they are the british people, and they know the difference. They largely do not know the difference about our case and all they see is them being "Romanians". If all you saw out of the USA was blacks shooting everything that moves, would you not be shocked when you saw mount rushmore?

Only Paganism is European out of all religions, BUT, as Hitler correctly decided, "positive" xtianity is a good way to unite the right kinda people to rally for a platform, and they can always be seduced in and over time to end up Pagan.

>>507341493
you did because the nature of a leader is one of authority but you take offense to the idea of someone having any amount of control over a society

>>507341753
I was talking about how anons on here see people, not how a virtuous and respectable leader would

>>507341910
No, because I educate myself, i know what everyone and everything is.

>>507341910
The average normie American may or may not know the difference but you'd be surprised how many of us do

>>507342026
you're speaking only about your cartoonist interpretations of the people you despise, nothing more

>>507341992
I have a boss
I follow my boss's instruction and guidance
I don't let my boss tell me what to believe, how to live, and how to die

>>507342026
it's not about how they are seen, it's about how they are. Humans are social creatures, we fall to peer pressure easily, and peer pressure tends to prioritize feeling good and virtuous over truth. That opens the group up to manipulation, however, if a strong, good leader places the people's own well being as their moral compass, then the society itself can be good and the people can have good lives.

>>507337229

Too late. Infinite space is the morphologically transcendent quality of western civilization. Cathedral spires, rocket ships, globalism, Calculous. Religion is just what ties you back to your ancestors. Christianity is basically the only ‘conservative’ option unfortunately.

It takes generations of myth and cult behavior to have a religion, as our form language weakens, our grip on infinite space will too, and we’ll invite foreign forms, like Boulder Buddhists.

It would take inconceivable amount of willpower to kickstart a homegrown space Viking religion founded our values. Our myth culture somewhat embodies this, but religion needs priests, ritual, community, typically a heroic founder.

Honestly I’d look to some sort of russo Siberian Aquarius flavor of religion, likely to be founded after the West collapses or nukes itself.

>>507342102
and the vast majority of normies do not, welcome to the internet.

>>507342161
He does tell you how to live and you obey it because it's in your nature.

>>507342140
You've either become numb to how fucking retarded and awful people on here are, or you're like that yourself
And it's like that throughout the entire WN / NS sphere, not just here

>>507342112
exactly my point. I'm sure that there are a lot of westerners who know our case, but the loud retards are very loud

>>507342276
He barely tells me how to do my job

>>507341955
>Meme flag
>"xtianity"
kike

optimism is cowardice, cowardice causes blindness.

>>507337584
Control, that's what religion is for.
Do you think any self respecting G-d would want to have anything to do with any of the religions that associate with him?

>>507342288
As if you would know. You use anonymous shitposts to form your assumptions. Shitposts from underage trolls, shitposts from your disingenuous friends, shitposts from literally anyone bots included and you think you understand everything, hilarious.

>>507342315
They always are but I think that's a problem universal to every nation/country/state/tribe that has ever existed.

>>507342540
Hess was too good for that regime
He never would have started the war

>>507342269
Which is why you shouldn't take their side..they will never accept you as white european or european even. fuck them.
>>507340692
yeah but you're american,most romanians will never meet americans in their life, but we will meet other europeans and they hate us more than you can comprehend.

>>507342357
If he ever has to come over and tell you to cut something out you'll obey without protest guaranteed

>>507342673
if your family does something you hate, do you show them the error of their ways and work together, or do you kick them out and go find a new family?

>>507342666
>Talk of world peace is heard today only among the white peoples, and not among the much more numerous coloured races. This is a perilous state of affairs. When individual thinkers and idealists talk of peace, as they have done since time immemorial, the effect is negligible. But when whole peoples become pacifistic it is a symptom of senility. Strong and unspent races are not pacifistic. To adopt such a position is to abandon the future, for the pacifist ideal is a terminal condition that is contrary to the basic facts of existence. As long as man continues to evolve, there will be wars.
The question of whether world peace will ever be possible can only be answered by someone familiar with world history. To be familiar with world history means, however, to know human beings as they have been and always will be.
>There is a vast difference, which most people will never comprehend, between viewing future history as it will be and viewing it as one might like it to be. Peace is a desire, war is a fact; and history has never paid heed to human desires and ideals...

>>507342775
Romanians are my only family on this planet.. that was made clear after encountering many western europeans ,online and mostly irl.

>>507342653
That's what the movement is.
>>507342701
Vaush-tier nihilism to suggest that's comparable to a dictator choosing my religious beliefs for me and ordering me to go die in a ditch somewhere in the name of said dictator's glory.

>>507342673
Yeah, fair enough. I've never been to Europe so I guess I can't really understand it. You guys look white to me for the most part. Like yeah maybe there are gypsies there but I feel like the difference between them and you guys is pretty obvious.

>>507342899
they are your closest family but they are not your only family. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of genetic similarity. I've explained this already but opinions can and do shift.

For another example, weimar germany was seen as an absolute shithole, germans? poor subhumans, depraved degenerates. "Do you speak german" was used for faggots to find each other. How do you think those same germans were seen after Hitler got to work?

>>507343073
ti is, public opinion has been swayed largely by the mass migration of gypsies from here to the rest of europe. They largely speak romanian and have our passports, the media did an expert job of amplifying this too. So, no wonder most westerners did not know the difference. It has been getting better lately, especially with them having to deal with worse than the gypsies, but it still happens because they are largely ignorant and we have not given them reason to think otherwise.

>>507336702
Pretty based. Your people are your religion. Focus on the physical, then once the physical is solved, focus on the metaphysical. But also understand the christianity does not originate in Europe, and honestly praises things that are anti European.

>>507342877
Spengler, Evola, Savitri Devi, and their ilk all seemed like absolutely miserable people to be around. Yes, it's an ad hom but it still says something about them and any beliefs they might have had.

>>507343299
It's crazy that they are just proto-jeets that stole some of your genes a long time ago

>>507337029
i'd sacrifice your children happily.

>>507337584
the lesson from judaism and sikhism is that religions can create very effective tribes. religions can give you a tribal nationality that outlasts empires.

>>507343073
>You guys look white to me for the most part
maybe ,but it doesn't matter, EU never liked us,western countries took advantage of us whenever they could and their normie populations think we're the scum of europe. kek. I just want full sovereignty for this country ,that is all.

>>507343522
not even, they were brought around the medieval times and lived on the outskirts of the region, they mostly still lived entirely separate and were enslaved. They are genetically speaking largely indians/south asian in general. We are similar to other balkan peoples like serbian/bulgarian/etc. Emancipation was forced, communists, ceausescu especially, needed more workers, so he forced their integration into the cities and built massive apartment buildings, they formed ghettos and as always, their areas are shit, our areas are nice, mostly. They left en masse around the time we entered the EU because they could find better pickings among the westerners.

>>507337899
nowhere in canada.

my view is synthesize parts of judaism, sikhism, and even parts of chinese culture into something hyper ethnocentric.

>>507343753
>I just want full sovereignty for this country ,that is all.
Same bro. I want that for me and you and every country basically.

>>507336649 (OP)
>x or y ideology that isn't spiritualist needs a spirituality
I think this is a parasite speaking those kinds of words

>>507336649 (OP)
Pagan vs Christian bullshit is textbook D&C
I automatically assume every thread which focuses on religion instead of racial issues is a shill thread

>>507343780
Wtf that's even worse

>>507336649 (OP)
>Pagans, whose beliefs have mostly been destroyed, you can't follow pagan beliefs without making shit up

Not an issue.
Christianity was completely made up at some point, and so was paganism.
Every religion is completely made up at some point. If the perennial truths it observes are true, it doesn't matter when the faith was constructed or revived.

Paganism is therefore the objectively superior faith, as it is not constrained by arbitrary and flawed past interpretations but is rather open to a more objective analysis of the perennial truth with all the accumulated wisdom of our forebears.

Christianity simply has nothing to offer. It's not the originator of European civilization, it was not invented by Europeans, the values it preaches are objectively harmful to European civilization and Europe's success was achieved IN SPITE of Christianity. The valor, bravery, and ambition required to push Europeans to Conquer the world was done in completely spite of Christianity's overt message of peace and non-aggression. And Europe's technological superiority is entirely a result of enlightenment humanism and a rejection of Christianity.
Christinity isn't "captured" today, this is what it has always supposed to be, it was the opposite and actually in the past that christianity was captured by the Aristocratic ruling class to serve it's pragmatic interests.

Christianity CANNOT be entirely disregarded due to the undeniable role it had over European civilization over the last millennia, even if Paganism wins, Pagan ancestor worship demands at least an acknoledgment of Christianity to be syncretised and included in it's tradition, but Christianity alone offers absolutely nothing of value anymore, nor can it.

>>507338885
nationalism means tribalism. if you think that you're a race of losers you're going to lose.

A good and well written post on pol in 2025? Thanks OP. I actually don't think a religion is necessary. Having one doesn't even make a difference since your nation can be subverted either way if there's no racial consciousness. Japan has been heavily anti-religion now for like 80 years and that's arguably the most beautiful and safe civilization that remains. Racial differences can also be easily explained through nature and evolution, unlike in most religions where "everyone is created equal by god". Germanic people have also always valued freedom very highly, which religion often just undermines.

>>507343144
>How do you think those same germans were seen after Hitler got to work?

And what makes you think this would happen to us? Even if we somehow send all the gypsies to india and make this a great country, they would still disrespect your children/grandchildren for being romanian. Rroma people / romania.. even the name of the country will remind them about gypsies forever kek

>>507336649 (OP)
That's all the sides eh AI?
>Fall into the dichotomy goy

>>507342996
It's what you want it to be, you can't read the minds of the people you see and would be shocked if you had the ability to. It's only increased since 1950 when it was at an all time low, despite what you see in the news, despite what you see in your movies and I'm not seeing any signs of that stopping.

Listening to you boss is not what nihilism means. It's not even shameful it's just the basic concept of hierarchy that's permanently affixed to the human psyche. Like any liar you take the dictator thing to the absolute extreme because you're not comfortable with considering nuanced views on the subjects you've built up an extreme bias.

>>507339274
sikhs, jews, and chinese are the three effective ethnic groups globally.

you can reverge engineer their religions and assimilate parts of them built around your myths. i've used chatgpt to model stuff like this out.

>>507344163
so refuse to acknowledge that name and fix your country to show the difference? it's really not impossible.

>>507336649 (OP)
>35 POSTS BY THIS ID
>IT IS THE JEWISH GUY WITH ROMANIAN FLAG
>D&C
>PANIC MODE
Yep you lost

>>507344222
what alternative do you have?

>>507339369
but the ideology can actually give you the good strategies that save your life. goyim lose to jews since they don't have a written playbook to counter jewish strategies. jews learn to jew from the talmud but goyim have nothing.

>>507344314
what part of what i said implies that i am jewish or trying to engage in d&c tactics?

>>507343951
Sure but i'm a realist, krauts+anglos don't want my country to emancipate itself from their shackles. They will always dictate what we do/have/say and on top of that normies will continue to see romanians as gypsies

>>507336649 (OP)
No religion.
Spirituality, yes. Culture, yes.

>>507336649 (OP)
Because the very idea of a sandnigger religion being the Western standard is retarded. You either Worship Jew on a Stick cuck for the "children of god" <- Lmao. Or Islam which is retarded as fuck and follows a Pedophile caravan robber hedonist warlord. It's super retarded. When the population hits a higher baseline IQ you become agnostic. You think to yourself, welp God can be very real but all these cuck tier, orc tier desert tales aren't true. Everywhere they are they are either just baseline white tier behavior pilled or fucking orcs like Islam. Islam is basically playing Zerg strat in a society ridden by propaganda and compassion the only reason it's flourishing. These desert cuck tales fucked everything up.And form the basis for globalism lite.

>>507344228
>Like any liar you take the dictator thing to the absolute extreme
I'm taking it back to the original start of this tangent

>>507344314
>sharpen my knife for me

>>507336957
this

>>507337229
barely nobody in europe cares as much about religion ,maybe romanians or some larpers do but honestly, its an american thing, we should organize and kick all non europeans and then you can be orthodox, or catholic, or worship the sun, or nothing, who cares as long as you have values and dont disrespect others faith. Ofc no islam

>>507340074
100 percent. there's a reason sikhs and jews do well and chinese do well by explicitly saying that they are NOT INDIVIDUALISTS. core into the chinese identity is that they are a collective and will always be chinese and follow the program. chinese are the only ones that can follow a tribal stategy without a religion.

>>507336649 (OP)
Abolish countries, nordic race only! Cleanse the continent

>>507344483
That's sucks dude. I'm sorry it's like that.

>>507344609
for >>507344407

>>507344610
some jews consider themselves eastern europeans.. what now? or do you just want to kick out muzzies and jeets?

>>507344610
my point was that you can't organize when you're slap-fighting over denominations

>>507336649 (OP)
>What's the solution here?
National Socialism as a religion.

>>507344636
Another fucking kike. Do you guys seriously have nothing better to do?

>>507336702

>>507344509
I know what you're trying to do with this binary outlook based on emotion, I pointed out that it's not so cut and dry

>>507340680
christianity was a jewish religion that came out of the middle east teaching individualism rather than tribalism.

HARD PASS.

>>507344687
jews have israel and jewsa, if someone wants to come its fine to me but they would pledge full loyalty and be under extreme surveillance so that they dont try to jew others But thats my personal opinion I guess some kind of collective decision would be the best.

>>507344785
I mean only retards and religious fanatics do. And religious fanatics barely exist in powerful european countries, yes they say christian values online but nobody gives a fuck really, And the race thing is the same, some losers are obsessed with pure nords but in practical terms anyone serious is happy with having a native land for its people and considers all europeans as similar peoples with the same struggle

>>507344961
you're literally the one who made it a retarded binary by equating working for a boss to living under an authoritarian dictatorship

>>507345291
I said you can't be opposed to the idea of authority and hierarchy if you respect and listen to a boss which is true. Or rather you could but It's hypocrisy.

>>507341412
but nobody knows what race anyone here is. this is the idiocy of white people considering this a "white" board while knowing it is an anonymous global board. this board itself is evidence of white people's inability to understand group boundaries and how collectives work

>>507336649 (OP)
>>507336649 (OP)
>>507336649 (OP)
>> HUR DUR
>> YOU ALL NEED TO HAVE THE SAME RELIGION
>> HUR DUR

OKAY
GYPSIE
ANON

RACE COMES FIRST
RELIGION & EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECOND

YOU SILLY INCEL

>>507345580
>>507345580
>>507345580
ALL CANADIANS
ARE RAJEETS
UNTIL THEY ARE PROVEN OTHERWISE

>>507344610
>>507344610
>>507344610

>>507344833
>>507344833
>>507344833
THIS
IS
ACCEPTABLE

>>507345580
WN / NS are like that everywhere, not just here. They hate white women and they hate white male normies. Together, that's the vast majority of white people.
The day of the rope they constantly fantasize about is where a shit ton of white people get killed.
They idolize the guy who killed tens of millions of white people.
Etc.

>>507343985
but jews proved that a religion can make a people an unstoppable force. sikhs prove this to a slightly lesser degree.

>>507343479
the history of man is not exactly a fairy tale with a happy ending..

>>507344314
dividing who?

>>507344687
jews only see themselves as members of the jewish nation. they dont see them as europeans lmao.

>>507336649 (OP)
Paganism is literally all of philosophy and the occult. Plato, Schopenhauer, chaos magick, etc. it's easy to follow and our beliefs are known. You don't have to revive some iron age bullshit to be a pagan.

>>507346001
you dont even know who is who. chinese are on telegram groups for chinese peoplewith no outsiders. jews have jewish groups with jews and no outsiders. whites go on an anonymous message board online and assume they are the only ones there. LMAO.

>>507336649 (OP)
I would prefer scientific atheism with strong ethics.

>>507346122
A. If you're a fatalist who thinks humanity has no say in its destiny, then what's the point of even writing about it?
B. There have been plenty of people who were equally "serious" and weren't miserable to be around.

>>507346001
It would be impossible not to have some sharp negative views towards individuals in a compromised system like this or early 20th century Weimar. The true firey hatred is placed squarely on the reasons it exists at all though. The only reason anyone has a strong opinion about it in the first place is ultimately because they care about their enviroment AKA the people around them. And again your source for half of this is anonymous trolls and your disingenuous comrades, what a joke.

>>507346417
okay, then there literally aren't any white nationalists
Is that better?

>>507346504
but why are chinese so much more group oriented than fins if both are scientific athiests?

>>507346558
once again, anonymous trolls and disingenuous comrades are the entirety of the "movement"

>>507346581
there are. i'm just saying that deriving from an anonymous board what members of a specific group believe is futile. this is why i dont understand the fantasy of this being a "white board"

>>507346581
always jumping between extremes incapable of nuance
>>507346674
I'll copy paste myself because I already responded to this
that's what you want reality to be, you can't read the minds of the people you see and would be shocked if you had the ability to. It's only increased since 1950 when it was at an all time low, despite what you see in the news, despite what you see in your movies and I'm not seeing any signs of that stopping.

>>507337465
Finally, a truly controversial take on /pol/.

>>507346001
every time

>>507336702
Weak and gay. Hitler invokes God and Christ many times in his speeches and Mein Kampf. You spiritually dead faggots are lost and Id be surprised if any of you accomplish anything of note.

I have an idea for a new religion. Here's how it will work: whoever wipes his ass with the civil rights act first, gets to be king for 5 years.

>>507344833
Based

>>507347146
anyway, europeans and diasporas can create thier own ethnoreligious group parallel to sikhs and jews and it will actually remove a lot of modern confusion because it removes the host-foreigner element from lots of countries and prevents lots of malicious subversion. I want a totally closed community like sikhism or judaism with chinese clan style business groups and maybe a CCP style governing structure that spies on members through phone apps.

i was brain storming ethnogensis processes on deepseek and it actually advised to copy elements of the chinese government including spying on dissenters

>>507336649 (OP)
Christianity is universalist and globohomo. I follow paganism ever day so idk where you think its impossible.

>>507347250
america to this day dont comprehend how much better organized jews are than any other group

>>507347146
The "international clique" didn't force Hitler to declare war on Poland, the Soviet Union, and the United States. It didn't force him to murder millions of Slavic civilians.

>>507347438
>CCP style governing structure
The CCP governing structure is literally European in origin. Credit them for something they've actually done, not that.

>>507347463
paganism is a meaningless word. what matters is that your tribe has symbols, rituals, a flag, a mythology, etc, and laws and are loyal to it. do you have that?

just not gonna worship a jew is all, its what we are trying to rid ourselves of. thats the entire point of national socialism lol, to go our own way, to have our own cultures, our own interests, our own beliefs, without some obligatory jewish middleman.

>>507347595
you're taking at face value your government's own narratives.

>>507346291
that's besides the point, I was curious who would be kicked out in his scenario

>>507347704
you're taking at face value a bitchute documentary made by some ESL

>>507347613
i'm not an expert on this.

>>507336649 (OP)
The issue is not so much religion, the issue is that 95% of the rightoids have some form of mental problems. The left have 99.999% problems but the right is just the other side of the same mentally ill modernity coin.

The main issue is non degeneracy and traditionalist lifestyle. If you dont have that, you most likely are broken somehow. Now traditionalism exists in many forms, in religious of various forms, pagan, christianity, Islamic etc.

But its traditionalist none the less. What usually happens is that you get a bunch of porn addicts with depression together who use the infighting as a sort of excuse to expunge their mental illness. Its not actually debate and serious ideological differences. Its the primary mover is mental problems. There are people of the same ideology who still fight one another because that is easier to do than to go outside and to stop the jew. The mental state of the white is totally busted and broken. It doesnt work anymore. Its not heroic or brave. It is that of a coward jew times x5. Lying, cheating, and cant look himself in the mirror without wanting to kill himself.

>>507347752
>if I call it ESL the white nationalists will be less likely to engage with it
So transparent, you should be embarrassed

>>507337229
Now that we have emerged ideologically, they will surely try to move the zeitgeist increasingly fast so as to give no time for our ideas to take root. We already saw this occurring with the gradual emergence of Zionist Correctness (their replacement for political correctness) that encouraged bashing of Muslims and so-called “Third World” people in a desperate attempt to divide a potential unity before it begins to form. We also see increasing exaltation of secularism and identity interests to weaken the influence of idealism in general and transcendent religion in particular. Any force that could be employed in service of social unification is being systematically undermined, as all these could interfere with their agenda of divide and conquer.

People need to rally around something, and it is our task to give them something to rally around that leads to unity among non-jews. If something suitable already exists, we must use it. If nothing suitable exists, we must create it. It could be regional secessionism (e.g. Scotland, Occitania, Azawad, Ryukyu), cultural romanticism (e.g. Babylon, Rome, Camelot, even America in its idealized form), religious folkway (e.g. Christianity, the Ummah, Pure Land, etc.), lifestyle community (e.g. vegans, environmentalists, anti-consumerists, etc.) or quality-based racial idealism (e.g. Aryanism); any of these can find common ground with one another if the goodwill is there on both sides, and we must encourage this goodwill at every opportunity.

We need to build a pan-european racialist mythos. Whiteness, in other words, should be the object of religious fervour itself. Nothing else will suffice. There can be no "converts", it cannot be universalist to the slightest degree.

Rare I effort post about religion on Pol fren. Thank you.

Orthodox Christianity is the only way. Because it is true. The part people are missing in this thread is truth. You can't base your society around something that isn't true, or you will have a schizophrenic society that will fall apart under it's own contradictions. God is real, Heaven and Hell are real. That must be the starting point. Even in late stage Pagan Rome, it is well known that most of them didn't actually literally believe in the gods, they just insisted on keeping up the pretence because they knew society would collapse without worship. This set them up to adopt a religion that people believed in so strongly that they were willing to die for the promised eternal life.

Orthodoxy never insisted on globalism as an ideal. We have national multiplicity within a unity. God created the nations and the races. Heretics are the ones who are saying that baptism changes your genes I guess. There is the Bulgarian church, Georgian, Russian etc. All worshipping the one true God in their own unique expression. Us Americans are still trying to figure out what that looks like for us. It will take time. Bottom line is that anyone trying to contrive a religion to be a framework for your entire way of life and have that framework not be true is delusional.

>>507347951
Everyone already engaged with it
The narration was shit and he should've got someone else to do it for him

>>507347463
yup
christianity is globalist by nature, its an abrahamic religion, youre always gonna be attached to jews.
paganism is nationalist by nature, no jews are required. seems pretty simple to me.

>>507346530
do you think man imposes meaning onto/into life or the other way around.

>>507348084
Keep going Mr. Shill just a few more posts and the white nationalists will surely be demoralized

>>507348086
You win by killing the dragon. I win by taming the dragon. Different victory condition.

>>507348028
its abrahamic, its globalist. just because it doesnt actively pursue that pursue that policy [currently] doesnt mean it isnt implicit to the religion, the end result is always going to be a jewish king ruling over the world. its kinda the whole point.. coopting illiterate simple peasants to fight for corrupt traitors to conquer 'the nations'. *their* nations.

Because religion AND White Nationalism are mental illnesses. When you add two such factors together, you get irrationality; stupidity plus gullibility equals chaotic reactions. White Nationalists at baseline are utter morons, and if you overlay a religious component, any religion, you get excess dumbfuckery. White Nationalists and ALL religion should be banned. Stupid people should not be allowed to breed. Or live.

>>507336649 (OP)
>On one side you have christianity, which has embedded itself into european culture and civilization
Nothing European about it. It's the opposite of European values and judaizes its followers like anything else from (((them)))

>>507348498
Fuck off faggot

>>507348498
Tell me you don't belong here without telling me you don't belong here.

>>507344632
>chinese are the only ones that can follow a tribal stategy without a religion.
Completely wrong. Anybody can do that, it's just that everyone wants to act like working together is trademarked by the chinks or something. I hate chinks and I hate anybody who assumes I'm copying chinks.

>>507338947
What the fuck am I looking at?

>>507348378
i dont need to kill the dragon unless the dragon is trying to kill me, enslave my family, and rape my kids tho. we could have always coexisted, but jews (+christians and now muslims) are the ones who can never just chill and let people be. theyre racing across the earth to kidnap peoples kids in order to use them as ideological weapons against their own people in order to destroy native culture. its inhuman. soulless, even.

>>507336649 (OP)

The only difference between a reform jew and a christian is that the reform jew thinks jesus message was only for the jews. Christianity is thus universal reform judaism for goyim, and christians refuse to acknowledge that. Universal reform judaism is a religion that is based on worshipping and adoring jews since it is originally a jewish ethnoreligion.

>>507348690
Well he's right. Ethnic nationalism is based. If you've ever spent time on stormfront or with any "White Nationalists" you know they are of lottle difference from cuckservatives and multiracialists.

They advocate the miscegenation of European races and see pure ethnic groups among Whites as divisive.

>>507337029
>Pagans sacrifice animals like barbarians
are you calling ancient greeks and romans barbarians? because that would be factually incorrect.
>absolutely barbaric. Unimaginable today..
hardly, not at all even. unless you're a gay vegan or something
>and besides, if the Jews had accepted Jesus,
yes, speaking of that. you believe in a god so sadistic and twisted that he created a son whose sole purpose was to get tortured to death in order to teach the jews a lesson. the foundational story of christianity is completely psychopathic. think on that if you want to talk about barbarism.

>>507348848
The dragon is just a big dog to me. Harder to tame, but eventually, I will have them.

>>507347711
For the most part anyone that is not nordic or nordic-looking and race communists, this includes all christians and most jews.

>>507348415
We believe Jesus Christ is God incarnate. Whether He was a Jew or not is irrelevant to this claim. We worship Him because He made us. After the final judgement, race won't matter. Even if you don't believe in Heaven, surely you acknowledge that race doesn't matter after you are a rotting corpse? Race does however matter a lot in this life and that's the trick that has been pulled; confusing a spiritual reality with a physical one. We don't worship Christ's manhood but his Godhood though obviously they are inseparable to a point. The problem is heresy, not Christ.

>>507349040
Alao if you have an impulse to worship supernatural, invisible fictional entities you should be culled.

The exact opposite happened with Whites, and the fring minority of Christians forced their retard cult on Europe for 1500 years until 80% of Whites are race traitor idiots who believe in jewish stories.

2k years of Christian dysgenic breeding is why Whites today are disintegrated, low intelligence followers.

>>507349303
>80% are traitors
At that point, you are the traitor.

>>507349303
Nah, both you guys are retarded fags
>inb4 not an argument
You didn't make one either.

>>507349040
>oh you want ethnostates?
>that must mean you want all Europeans to racemix
>youre just like the people who want infinite third world migration
Bruh wtf are you talking about

>>507349501
No but nice try kike, as that 80% actively works against their own racial interests

>>507338169
General historical literacy is the easiest cure to Christianity. Understanding when and how it came about as well as its relationship to both Judaism and Paganism simply creates too many fault lines in its credibility where it very obviously just looks like something made up by a failing empire to try to consolidate power as institutions began degrading. Jesus was probably a real guy who met a predictable end of anyone who challenges the power kikes wield over the world, but whatever value his teachings might have clearly got coopted by kikes and a failing Roman Empire.

>>507349540
Genocide is genocide morons, by miscegenation with other European races or replacement by foreigners.

No, you mixed race euro mutt trash are not the same as me (A German) or other pure European ethnicities

>>507349613
To me. It sounds like you are loyal to a fake god know as [the White Race]. Not appealing to me.

>>507349527

Your low iq takes have made your argument, whether or not you realize it.

>>507336649 (OP)
>The faults of christianity are that it is inherently judeocentric
Lots of Jews in here pushing divide and conquer.
Really makes you think.

>>507349816
Who tf is advocating for all euros to be blended together? That only makes sense for America, why would anyone want that in Europe?

Are you just making stuff up

>>507350037
White nationalists often do, that was the point. White nationalism is an American ideal, originates with them and is a dysgenic multiracial policy. Spend time on the world's largest White nationalist forum stormfront to find out.

>>507347847
You brown people just repeat lies in hopes that they become true.
>It is that of a coward jew times x5.
Dumb lines like this are how I know you aren't focused on what we're focused on. Maybe if you'd actually try to put yourself in our shoes, your kike boss would pay you. But you brown people are incapable of putting yourselves in someone else's shoes and that's why you make fools of yourselves everywhere you go. You brown people are so stupid, that when real humans come into contact with your stupidity, we think you're pretending to be retarded.

I bet that Dutch flag is a VPN.

>>507336649 (OP)
1. Most religions are retarded and Jewish so it leaves a bad taste in the mouth to talk about religion.
2. Most of us are hard logicians who don't want to play make believe in the first place, show us something objective and tangible.
3. Basically, we are too smart for religion and can't pretend it's actually real. You have to be stupid to actually believe in religion.

Most of us may believe in a higher power but not through any existing religions. In the end everything that's been posited so far has been dumb and the high level thinkers in this world can't play along with it. I made up my own religious beliefs, I'm the one that says God is evolved consciousness that travels back in time to create itself. It's sort of a consciousness worship, but very scientific and logical, because until I theorized this, there was no logical way for a god to have created itself or for time to have began. The rest is just: this is exists because it's a possibility. There really are no other possibilities, just one where time is bent and creation of self occurs, so all the laws of the universe are geared towards that. That possibility dictates the laws of the universe too. The builder created them so.

Pagans back in Rome or Germania would have no problem with their daughters marrying black men. Rome literally had semetic emperors before Christianity.

>>507346001
>>507346001
>>507346001
HELLO MUTT FAGGOT
YOUR NATION IS THE ONE THAT KILLED THOSE MILLIONS OF WHITE PEOPLE

ALONGSIDE THE BRITBONGS & COMMUNIST USSR

SHUT THE FUCK UP
MUTT SHILL
YOUR COUNTRY IS NOW COLLAPSE. JUSTICE ;D

>>507350160
Stormfront hasn't been relevant in over a decade. Go read Mein Kampf and try again, you clearly haven't done your homework.

>>507350372
>>507350372
>>507350372
HERE'S
YOUR HIGHER POWER
FELLOW WEIMERIMUTT

>>507350160
Ethnic nationalism is still dysgenic, nordic nationalism makes more sense, there are nordic people in each ethnicity, there are plenty of dsygenic people too in every ethnicity.

>>507350407
>>507350407
>>507350407
REMINDER

60% OF MUTT FLAGS
90% OF LEAF FLAGS
60% OF BONG FLGS
50% OF E.U. FLAGS
ARE SHITSKINS
LARPING AS WHITE PEOPLE

>>507350381
>>507350381
>>507350381
ANOTHER
RAJEET
MEMEFLAGGOT X'D

>>507336649 (OP)
You retards can’t even agree who counts as white. Stop obsessing over skin colour and contribute to society cunt.

>>507349061
had you embraced paganism and not sided with the dragon, the dragon would have tamed itself for your benefit, and then sought your council.

>>507350354
I am actually an activist and am politically active, from the 200 people that tried to join us, 180 were some form of mentally ill narcissistic bullshit. You have no idea how bad you have it. You have no idea what kind of milestones for development you missed and what the traditionalists actually expect as bare minimum from a white man.

Right wing traditionalists dont really exist on this planet. There are very few of them. Only a few ancient ish groups. Like voorpost for example I could consider to be okay. Some ultras as well probably. Now we have active clubs, they are trying to find that formula back and crudely kinda got it. But nick fuentes and that sort of garbage. Its probably not fake, but the people he connects to like that schizo nigger are doing free mason rituals. We only have Robert rundo. Thomas Sewell who are legit. And the rest I just see as potentially just being a seeded opposition operation. The reason we cannot grow and take over these days is less palantir, and state, and more so that there are just so many mentally ill retards. I could go on and on about what is needed but thats like pearls to swine.

>>507350017
Your reddit spacing makes you look like a colossal faggot, whether or not you realize it.

>>507350655
What even is paganism? I still see Loki as the strongest of all your pagans gods. Thus. I’m still loyal to that 1 God.

>>507350407
Mein Kampf is written by an ethnic
nationalist, not a white nationalist.

Not aure how against miscegenation he was either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIz1szy-4uk

She talks in the full interview about there be black men with german woman and there was no prejudice

>>507350476
>>507350476
>>507350476
SHOW
FLAG
RAJEET

>>507336649 (OP)
>Why is it so hard for white nationalists to agree on a religion?

white nationalists need Islam

>>507350594
>>507350594
>>507350594
YOU ARE NOT WHITE
PAKI
RETARD X'D

>>507351036
>>507351036
>>507351036
NICE
REDD1T
SPACING

>>507350862
>Proper paragraphs are reddit spacing

Uh huh. Ok then. Watch out for things called books, tons or reddit spacing there.

>>507350476
Thats a type of ethnic nationalism...

LOOK HOW FUCKING SILENT
THE ANIME SIGMA MALE RAJEETS GOT

DOCILE LOW IQ SUBHUMANS. FRANTICALLY TYPING TO CHAT GPT FOR A RESPONSE. KEK. SARRRS!!1

>>507336649 (OP)
Christianity allows the jews to go ungenocided. It must be ditched.

>>507336649 (OP)
why is it so hard for people to just be atheist and white nationalists?
theism is retarded and only causes problems

>>507351243
>>507351243
>>507351243
SHUT THE FUCK UP MUTT
YOU'RE NOT EVEN WHITE

GO BACK TO REDD1T OH WAIT YOU ARE HERE FOREVER. YOU ALSO SOUND LIKE A MASSIVE EFFIMINATE FAGGOT.

GO OUTSIDE
TOUCH GRASS
EXERCISE // LIFT. STUPID BOY PUSSY. BUSSY FAGGOT RAJEET.

>>507351243
Does the bull even let you watch or do you just listen in? Is she normal fat or like abomination fat?

>>507351329
And then what? Go back to sucking your own dick?

>>507351397
>>507351397
>>507351397
YOU CANNOT
BE EITHER

RACE COMES FIRST. ANYONE PUTTING RELIGION BEFORE RACE OR ATHEISM BEFORE RACE SHOULD BE SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD.

>>507350385
>HELLO MUTT FAGGOT

You'll be forcefully reverted to Islam, jew boy

>>507351397
I genuinely hate atheist. I always get murder fantasy whenever I talk to one.

>>507351036
>Mein Kampf is written by an ethnic
nationalist, not a white nationalist.
White nationalism is just ethnic nationalism for white Americans
>Not aure how against miscegenation he was either
Very.
>She talks in the full interview about there be black men with german woman and there was no prejudice
They were denied marriage licenses and generally weren't considered citizens. It wasnt because they were super hateful, they just wanted a nation that was only for germans. There was a lot of Africans there from their former colonies.

>>507351422
Believe it or not, some people get their dicks sucked by women. I've personally had it happen, it's really cool. You don't need to suck your own at all.

AMERICAN CITIES ARE BURNING DOWN
YOUR FEDS, NATIONAL GUARD, & MARINES CANNOT STOP THE DESTRUCTION OF THIS MUTT EMPIRE

YOUR POLICE & NATIONAL GUARD COULDN'T SAVE THE CITIES IN THE 1960s WHEN THE RACE RIOTS STARTED
AND THEY WON'T SAVE IT NOW

MARINES WERE SENT INTO HAITI 4 TIMES
IT DIDN'T FIX HAITI
DUMB STUPUD WEIMERIMUTTS

YOUR NATION WILL COLLAPSE
ENJOY 20-30 YEARS OF ETHNIC RACE WARS WORLD-WIDE WHEN AMERICA IS NO LONGER THE WORLD POLICE. ;33333

>>507351422
Adopt something that doesn't allow the jews to go ungenocided after everything they've done. Christianity should've destroyed the jews over the last 2000 years.

>>507351243
It's based on blood first, not on language or traditions, which are already too judaised anyway.

>>507351612
Tough luck. I always side with the weak. Because I am strong.

>>507351490
>>507351490
>>507351490
ISLAM IS IN TERMINAL DECLINE

LOW 80 IQ INBRED SAND PEOPLE
PAKISTAN, 60% OF THE NATION IS INBRED. LOL. LMAO

YOUR RELIGIONS, LIKE CHRISTIANITY & JUDAISM CAME AND WENT.

YOU HAD 2000+ YEARS
YOU FUCKED IT ALL UP
ISLAM HASN'T BEEN RELEVANT SINCE THE BASED MAN NAMED GENGHIS KHAN BURNED ALL YOUR LIBRARIES DOWN.

GO BACK TO FUCKING YOUR SISTER OR COUSIN ANON
AND TAKING SHITS
ON PROSTITUTES CHESTS SINCE YOU ARAB MEN LOVE THAT

OR THE OLD ARAB MEN
WHO HAVE LITTLE BOYS DANCE FOR THEM

FAGGOT HOMOSEXUAL INBRED 80 IQ FREAKS X'D

>>507351732
Uh-huh.

>>507351579
>>507351579
>>507351579
YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED
HE WAS A RACIALIST

SO NOT A CIVIC NATIONALIST
A WHITE NATIONALIST
SINCE HE WAS A WHITE MAN

YOU MUTTS ARE SO BAD AT THIS

>>507351775
>>507351732
SHOW
FLAGS
SHITSKINS [You won't pussy boy pussy bussy memeflaggot freaks]

>>507351893
You don’t need to know. I am your enemy. Not here to make friend with you.

>>507349296
what happened to "four words you never want to hear: i never knew you"?
if he were god, he'd know you
if he were god, he could have precircumsized himself and avoided the trouble
you have the right idea about the objective being to imminate god into existance, but thats pagan as shit. your jew isnt our creator, for more reasons than i care to list. but needless to say, celebrating holidays for events which never happened, and being a straight up npc who thought the torah conceived of three centuries prior was historical and not fiction. god wouldnt have been such a fool. god wouldnt have been limited to like five pages of dialogue and spewing bullshit like calling greek women dogs. god wouldnt have needed to speak in riddles and contradictions, wouldnt have told you to hate everyone who loves you and break his own father's commandment. god wouldnt have been killed by mortal men and got out the way he did, it serves no other purpose other than to legitimize the beliefs of jews and to assign to them supernatural capabilities. but if he did, god could have just allowed a line of people to slay him, risen instantly, and the proceeded with the next person, but god shouldnt need to prove itself to you, you should need to prove yourself to it. but he went out the way he did to legitimize the beliefs of jews, thats why he talks like a fucking robot going through a preprepared systemized checklist saying stupid shit like: "i am only here to fulfill the [jewish] prophecies"

you want to know about god? cut out the jewish bullshit and come back to paganism, the natural science of religion where all humans, all cultures, everywhere on earth naturally strive. then we can share our knowledge in order to come to a better understanding. this jewish set in stone shit is counterproductive. its no wonder theres been a thousand years worth of dark ages. but its too late now for all of that. christians have screwed the whole world over and we are left in this atheist cesspit

SORRY MUTTS // SHITSKINS
YOU LOST
YOUR WORLD IS COLLAPSING

RUSSIA'S BIRTHRATES COLLAPSED
INDIA'S BIRTHRATES COLLAPSED
CHINA'S BIRTHRATES COLLAPSED
WEIEMRICA'S BIRTHRATES COLLAPSED
E.U.'S BIRTHRATES COLLAPSED
SOUTH WEIMERICA'S BIRTHRATES COLLAPSED

YOU LOST
ENJOY THE NEXT 20-30 YEARS OF CHAOS AND WARS. MILLIONS MUST DIE. BILLIONS EVEN. KEK.

CALL YOUR SENILE POLITICIANS
CALL THE OBESE POLICE OFFICERS
NO ONE IS GOING TO STOP IT FROM HABBENING ;D

>>507351992
>>507351992
>>507351992
YOU CANNOT EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH
ESL ANON

I KNEW YOU WERE A SHITSKIN HOLY FUCKING KEK I WAS RIGHT

DAILY REMINDER
SCHIZO ANON
IS ALWAYS RIGHT. BASEDIUS MAXIMUS

VIOLENCE ISN'T THE ANSWER, IT'S A QUESTION.
THE ANSWER:
YES

+ HUNTER
+ TURNER DIARIES
+ SERPENT'S WALK

+ THE BRIGADE
+ A MIGHTY FORTRESS
+ FREEDOM'S SONS

+ FAME OF A DEAD MAN'S DEEDS
+ ADL: 100 YEARS OF HATE // 200 YEARS TOGETHER [JQ]
+ HITLER'S WAR

+ THIS TIME THE WORLD // WHITE POWER
+ SN33D BY: JAMES MASON
+ IMPERIUM BY FRANCIS PARKER YOCKEY

+ INSIDE ALLIED HIGH COMMAND: WAR BETWEEN THE GENERALS
+ COSMOTHEISM TRILOGY
+ MARCH OF THE TITANS

ASHA LOGOS
ZOOMER HISTORIAN
www.AlexLinder.com/Audio

HISTORY OF THE SCHUTZSTAFFEL:https://youtu.be/E_5rRVkfHz0?si=8Mg-zNK-28NvOZYa

THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES:https://youtu.be/x8PfTwLiYQE?si=AbHuJMw6YsIZJcGt

OUTBREAK OF WWII:https://youtu.be/j9umwEhi7sI?si=iv7FATOiI5DsPF6Z [P-O-L-A-N-D]

CATTLE DIE & KINSMAN DIE
AND SO ONE DIES ONE'S SELF
ONE THING NOW THAT NEVER DIES
THE FAME OF A DEAD MAN'S DEEDS

MY HONOR IS MY LOYALTY
ALL ACCOUNTS WILL BE SETTLED

HELTER SKELTER
IMPERIUM AETERNA

SOCIETY IS COLLAPSING
WE WERE RIGHT
NORMIES WERE INCORRECT

>>507350372
Based fellow Cosmotheist. I've come to believe very similar things, mostly after reading Pierce's work on the subject. Regarding consciousness as sacred/God goes hand in hand with preserving one's species/race as the highest moral imperative. As Aryans we are the most conscious beings we know of, so our survival and evolution is paramount to fulfilling the Creator's design of creating something like itself, so that perhaps new life and new universes can be spawned throughout eternity.

>>507352049
Pretty sure my skin is whiter than you.

THAT'S RIGHT SHILLS
GET THE FUCK OUT AND SHUT THE FUCK UP

GOOD
BOYS
THAT'S A GOOD DOCILE SUBHUMAN TAKING MY ORDERS. GOOD ANONS.

SEE YOU MORONS IN THE NEXT THREAD SINCE YOU CANNOT LEAVE AND ARE TRAPPED HERE FOREVER ;33

>>507351836
I didnt call him a civic nationalist you retard. "White nationalism" wasnt a thing at that time. He was an ethnic nationalist. Germany for the Germans, France for the French, Africa for the Africans, etc etc.

>>507352199
>>507352199
>>507352199
>> SARRRR
>> SARR IAM WHITE MAN SARR

SHUT THE FUCK UP SUBHUMAN MUTT

No matter how much of a mess this place is, you can always still see TKD shining through. Cocksuckers come here and tell us that we have to suck cock to win. That's because they sucked cock to get their shill jobs. When a cocksucker sees a well-built bridge, his or her first thought is "I wonder how many dicks I'd have to suck to make that happen." When a man sees a well-built bridge, his first thought is "I bet those guys got their dicks sucked."

>>507352296
>>507352296
>>507352296
YOU'RE BEING AUTISTIC
AND NO ONE IS GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU ANON. KEK.

>> BU-BUT IT WASN'T WHITE NATIONALISM. GERMANS WEREN'T WHITE. I NEED TO BE A NERD

NO ONE
CARES
FUCKING NERD. LMAO. SEMANTICS SEMANTICS. NICE TRY ANON. FUCK OFF RIGHT NOW.

>>507350160
>stormfront
lol you're so old blind. It makes me so happy to see how lost you people are

>>507352314
>>507352314
>>507352314
TOTAL
KIKE
DEATHWAVE

>>507352390
>>507352390
>>507352390
WELL
MOST OF THEM ARE NON-WHITES

THANK GOD
THE BOOMERS
AND JEWS
FILLED THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT WITH SHITSKINS. KEK. WE'RE GOING TO WIN MAINLY BECAUSE OF THEIR INCOMPETENCE. A DAILY REMINDER.

>>507336649 (OP)

What's wrong with a universalist religion?

Any honest man who's read his manifesto would have to concede that Uncle Ted had a point

9/11 is the same logic about the necessity of killing people if you want attention but introducing the idea of a solution in that Islam would be able to address some of the contradictions of industrial-technological society

It's quite remarkable that they've achieved as much as they have given the arid climate

>>507352308
You can’t even defined white.

BEHOLD
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT // LEADERSHIP
CIRCA: THE CURRENT YEAR

>>507352531
>>507352531
>>507352531
IT'S DEFINE
SPEAK ENGLISH PROPERLY
YOU STUPID FUCKING FEMBOY, YOU HAVE NO HAIR ON YOUR HANDS. LOL. LOW T.

>>507352381
Go read a book, Herr Shill. Start with this one

https://archive.org/details/mein-kampf-vol.-1/mode/1up

NEVERMIND I ZOOMED IN
AT LEAST YOU CAN GROW SOME HAIR
UNLIKE THE LAST FAT FUCK WHO POSTED HIS HAND. I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. NOW GO LEARN ENGLISH.

>>507352595
Told you. I’m whiter than you. You are a shit skin compare to me.

>>507352531
The all-caps shill has been a piece of shit ever since the Ukraine war broke out, he's basically here to undermine white nationalism by acting like a clown.

>>507352638
>>507352638
>>507352638
I READ THAT WHEN I WAS 15-16 FUCKING RETARD

IT'S IRRELEVANT TO OUR CURRENT SITUATION. THAT BOOK WAS FOR GERMANS BACK IN A POST WWI SOCIETY.

DO
KEEP
KEVETCHING

WHITE PEOPLE. RUN THE WORLD. WHEREVER SHITSKINS GO IT FALLS APART. LOOK AT HAITI OR RHODESIA OR SOUTH AFRICA.

AS LONG AS THE PEOPLE WHO SURVIVE ARE WHITE
THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS

RAJEETS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 5000 YEARS. ONE BILLION PEOPLE. YET 0 GOLD MEDALS.

>>507350594
>said the anglo after he called me a gyppsy

>>507352703
>>507352703
>>507352703
ERR
WRONG
AGAIN

GREEN EYES, BLONDE HAIR, BLUE VEINS.
SORRY I ACTUALLY HAVE A TAN ON THE OTHER HALF OF MY ARM.

I ACTUALLY GO OUTSIDE & DO 5-10 MILES A DAY USUAL. DID 20+ MILES YESTERDAY.

GO OUTSIDE.
TOUCH GRASS.
LIFT WEIGHTS.

>>507352955
>>507352955
>>507352955
WE WUZ
GYPOS
N SHIET.

TO BE FAIR
MOST ANGLO POSTERS
ARE SEETHING INCEL PAKIS AND MUSLIMS. KEK.

>>507352840
>no dont read mein kampf
>be a raging lunatic instead
>I am silly
This is what im talking about

Kys NATO shill

>why is it hard for third worlders on VPNs larping as nazis to agree on religion
lol this place never changes

>>507352995
I go outside almost everyday. It’s nothing special.

>>507350947
its the religion you would have were you to have been born on an empty earth alone without previous inhabitation.
it is *the* mystery - the process you would inevitably undertake which involves asking and answering the questions of where you are, why youre here, what youre doing here, what youre supposed to be doing, what your prime directives are, your [creator's] objectives, and a thousand other questions. these questions and answers evolve over time with our understanding. you dont just lock yourself in to what jews of 2000 years believed and set it in stone unless youre content on a meaningless existance and seeking to sabotage your purpose and the purpose for your being here. the jewish religion was obsolete even in its own day. even poos of all people had a better grasp of things than jews did. jews spent too much in the alexandrian library, and not enough time actually undertaking that 'pagan' process. socrates could have told you your books and ideas are meaningless if they cant withstand scrutiny. without that you cant reach elenchus, which is gnosis, total understanding. not just in your mind, but in others minds. if you simply kill your enemies, the people who criticize your ideas, youre going to wake up one day in a godless world, praying to eternal silence, incapable of moving forward in the process, damned to live out your days until yours and everythings inevitable extinction.

AT LEAST THIS ANON HAS MORE TESTOSTERONE THAN THE LAST SHILL.

NOW
GO LEARN PROPER ENGLISH.

THE WHITE RACE IS FOREMOST.
WE MUST SECURE THE EXISTENCE OF OUR PEOPLE AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN.

EVERYTHING IS JUSTIFIED TO MAKE THIS OCCUR.

ENDS JUSTIFY MEANS.
AT ALL COSTS.
MERCY IS OVERRATED

WARFARE IS LOGISTIC
WARFARE IS DIS-INFORMATION
WARFARE IS PROPAGANDA

AGREE & AMPLIFY
QUALITY >>> QUANTITY
PURPOSE & RESPONSIBILITY

STRUGGLE
SURVIVAL
SECURITY

STAY STRONG
STAY VIGILANT
STAY ALIVE

MY HONOR IS MY LOYALTY
ALL ACCOUNTS WILL BE SETTLED
FREEDOM COMES FROM THE SWORD --- GOTT MIT UNS.

>>507353117
>>507353117
>>507353117
I JUST SAID I ALREADY READ MEIN KAMPF YOU STUPID WEIMERIMUTT FUCKHEAD RETARD

I NEVER SAID DON'T READ IT
I SAID IT IS NOT RELEVANT TODAY.

GERMANY WAS A HEALTHY NATION THAT HATED WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO IT AND WANTED A FUHRER.

THE MODERN WEST // RUSSIA
IS NOT A HEALTHY PLACE. & IS FILLED WITH ANTI-WHITES. EVEN WHITE PEOPLE WHO HATE THEMSELVES & WILL DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO FIGHT YOU TO PROTECT THEIR PRECIOUS NIGGERS // MUTT SPAWN.

>>507353177
>>507353177
>>507353177
SURE YOU DO ANON
SURE
YOU DO

>>507353166
>>507353166
>>507353166
VERY
BASED
TAKE

>>507353288
Nah. My creator is my default position, so back to Christianity.