Thread 507358149

We can no longer keep up

>>507358149 (OP)
china is one of the few countries investing wisely in nuclear, solar is just fun to do.

>>507358149 (OP)
Murikka, get your shit together
I dont wanna learn chinese

we are a third world country now, pal

>>507358149 (OP)
grok is alive. chatgpt isn't. stop using AI.

>>507358149 (OP)
Americans and the Chinese are partly the same race, there is a lot of Asian and Chinese admixture in the American race. No need to worry!

>>507358218
stop asking us to do your killing for you.
Last time we fell for it, we learned later that you started the whole damned war because Beck thought he could take Berlin in 2 weeks.

>>507358149 (OP)
ching chong bing bong

>>507358149 (OP)
*exploding Temu garbage noises*

>>507358149 (OP)
imagine running maintenance that for

>>507358149 (OP)
>Clouds appear

>>507358149 (OP)
Don’t care
Drill baby drill will save us

>>507358149 (OP)
>We can no longer keep up
No shit Sherlock lmao

>>507358149 (OP)
Imagine if a small meteor took out a good portion of those panels...

>>507358218
Why not? At least chink overlord doesn't make you to suck jewish cock.

>>507358149 (OP)
solar is extremely limited in several aspects

Imagine a jet going to town on those with the guns.

>>507358451
It's a desert for a reason you god forsaken mutt

chunks are not rendering
huh

>>507358218
nigger, we lost world war 2.
if germany won, we would be colonizing the stars alongside them.
instead we are getting genocided as we fight wars for israel.

>>507358413
my thoughts exactly, the water and energy needed for that must be crazy

>>507358149 (OP)
>wind blows sand on the solar panel
>no more power

>>507358477
of course.
the first thing that came to mind when i saw op’s pic was “dang that’s a lot of mining.”

>>507358149 (OP)
What happens when they break or get covered in dust?

>>507358523
deserts are the worst place for solar panels
peak efficiency is at 25°C maximum in the sun (not shadow)

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Solar-cell-efficiency-vs-Temperature-plotted-for-the-two-cells-with-trap-densities-of_fig7_237824433

>>507358149 (OP)
It’s over
Projected regional population (billions)
2000 2050 Growth
Asia 3.72 5.28 +42%
Africa 0.82 2.47 +201%
Europe 0.73 0.70 -4%
Latin America & the Caribbean 0.52 0.73 +40%
Northern America 0.31 0.43 +39%
Oceania 0.03 0.06 +100%
World 6.13 9.66 +58%

>>507358149 (OP)
Why not just nuclear? I can understand putting panels on top of buildings but doing something like this just seems... wrong.

>>507358201
How do countries protect from getting nuclear sites bombed?

>>507358541
>if germany won
You would have lost retard

>>507358694
Asia on its own will have 6 billion humans in it by 2055
Europe’s population is actually going to decrease by comparison

gee good thing global warming doesnt exist in china consudering how hot panels make the surrounding air

It’s unironically over in less than 30 years
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>>507358694
>>507358465

>>507358218
I just have my gf translate for me

>>507358849
oh no, not the niggerinos in Amerika

>>507358691
Not all deserts are hot though. The desert in Inner Mongolia is far north and doesn't get that hot

>>507358149 (OP)
Those bugtards ever heard of hail? Shit destroys fragile glass like a niglet with a hammer.

>>507358918
>>507358861
>>507358743
>>507358694

>>507358149 (OP)
How much of that power can they store and how many of those solar panels are even hooked up?

>>507358717
By not being kikes

>>507358149 (OP)
This planet will be completely drained of resources by the end of this century at this rate with third world shitholes industrializing to try and one-up a stupidlydying European world while western corporations continue to waste resources with manufacturing useless bullshit.
>>507358218
Too bad, you're learning both English (the new gay kind) and Chinese later.

>>507358149 (OP)
The rest of the world paying niggers billions for energy rocks while China is harnessing the power of the sun directly lmao.

>>507358918
weaponized pathogens will cut them down

>>507359003
>>507358918
>>507358694
We are so fucked

>>507358523
>sand, erosion, flash freezes appear

>>507358717
by allying with israel.

>>507359115
God I fucking hope so anon
They are SERIOUSLY overdue

>>507358413
Drone swarms can directly connect to solar cells for charging, enabling them to perform maintenance tasks indefinitely.

>>507358717
idk, how do you protect 39475320453279 acres of wasted land for (((solar panels))) from literally anything from rocks, birds, hail, even rain, from fucking them up? lmao

>>507358675
replace them dhu?

>>507358149 (OP)
Dust storm -30%
Rainy days -90%
Dust storm then rain then dust storm -30%, -100%, remain at 40% use.
Hail storm cracks glass busts circuits -90%.
It's obsolete and creates more pollution to make, maintain and eventually dispise of than coal or nuclear

>>507358472
If you are sucking cock, that's on you, mate

>>507358717
how often are you involved in total war? if someone wants the land they aren't going to contaminate it. very obvious humanitarian disaster and seems only worth it in a war of annihilation. terrorism, I guess, but that's also going to be globally condemned.

>>507358302
haha i like wojaks they're pretty funny

>>507358413
Chinese don't do maintenance

>>507358717
bury the reactors in the mountains of which they have plenty

>>507358149 (OP)
Two-dimenstional power generation has inherent limits, and that's before thermal or ecological considerations.

>>507358265
Grok is literally kike drivel

>>507358691
solar panels lower desert temperatures, in time, solar panels will transform the place into paradise

China have all of the 11 biggest solar parks in the world
but if only they had consulted /pol/ first and you guys could've told them about sand erosion and how a solar panel works
fucking midwits

>>507358715
a single missile can take out a nuke, these solar plants can absorb all of the genocidal west's weapon stockpile and still be operational

>>507358149 (OP)
I feel like a visionary now.
Back then I thought "why can't they just turn desrts into solar power generation fields?".

>>507358149 (OP)
Tofu construction, looks impressive, not even half of those solar panels work

>>507359346
chinese scientists have already done the feasibility study anon, and they are better than you

>>507358218
China is a joke
Grow up. This isn’t tik tok

>>507358717
by being part of a coalition that can bomb anyone else back

>>507359215
based

>>507359951
>Back then I thought "why can't they just turn desrts into solar power generation fields?".
you should go work for the Chinese, they will empower you to change the world for the better

>>507358302
Where is the jew huh?

>>507359071
tfw China is N1 in green energy.
based chinks

>>507358918
>>507358861
>>507358743
>spend 30-50% of time on Maoism with a Xi flavor
>rifles keyhole at 10m
>untested military except for harrassing Flip fishermen and meleeing(!) with the Poos
>haven't had a functional navy since the mid-1400s, still waiting to see any evidence to the contrary
>inb4 ultimate china fighter jet victory for pakistan

>>507358472
Americans have the ability to make you suck cock, but choose not to.
The Chinese do not have the ability to make you suck cock, so them not doing this is not indicative of any choice on their part

So you should not want change.

>>507358149 (OP)
We haven’t been able to keep up for decades now

>>507358149 (OP)
Solar power sucks in Factorio. Just make a fission reactor.

>>507358218
I am learning mandarin right now no joke.
I love the chinese. Just beware that the jews are trying to sneak their way in and make them into zogbots too.
It is good that they culled the jews they had running shit in the beginning, they should not allow them in.

>>507358562
>water
>for solar panels?
Anon, it's ok to be retarded. Just don't speak and let everyone know that you are.

>>507358149 (OP)
>acres of cardboard painted gloss black

I don’t understand anti-solar people.
The largest available source of power, the sun, already exists. It’s just a matter of collecting its energy by building more solar panels.

>>507358218
>I dont wanna learn chinese
You're not supposed to.
Traditional Chinese was meant out filter retards, too, and shame they simplified it right before the digital age.

>>507361583
Meanwhile you got filtered by English, lmfao

>>507358149 (OP)
The entire solar industry is smoke and mirrors. Solar panels have a limited lifespan. They also contain large amounts of hazardous materials and are expensive to dispose of as well as being extremely bad for the environment. China has traded off one proplem today for multiple problems tomorrow. Good luck with that.

>>507361400
That's not the largest available source of power. There are much more powerful stars than our sun.

Covering the entire planet with metal and plastic seems like something an evil polluting villain would do.

>>507361400
Because solar is highly inefficient. It’s almost always a net energy loss when you factor in what it costs to make the panels, maintain them, and then dispose of the hazardous waste at EOL.
Solar is fine for off-grid locations where it’s too difficult to run power lines or you just don’t need that much power, but it’s garbage for most real world applications.

Isn't this just the "over production" meme we've heard about. They're trying to figure out what to do with all their supply?

>>507362128
>here's why building anything is a bad thing.
Always the same fucking cope in every fucking thread

China also builds wind farms and nuclear power facilities

What the fuck do you build except for cope threads?
America has given out billions in loans to solar companies to get fucking nothing.
I don't understand what your plan for the future is? Just to continue coping until there's a chinese whipping your back?
Learn to compete.

>>507361400
solar is a big fucking grift with only limited uses that's making a few companies filthy rich, and their politician buddies with their hands in their pockets

dont mind me its only my day job as a power grid engineer

op is a fucking idiot

>>507360615
go home bugman chink, shoo back to your bughive if it was so great

>>507358675
more would have been built elsewhere by then.

Also, tomorrows problem is for someone else

>>507360858
They didn't? They took out massive development loans and like 2 trillion from Kissinger to make modern China, nearly everything in China is run by private companies with the government mostly doing public works. If taking loans is the equivalent of kicking out the jews Greece is the most anti-semitic country on earth.

>>507358377
russia and germany invaded

China always starts infighting. They have been powerful numerous amounts of times but always started a civil war.

>>507362892
jews dont have power there and it makes tour jew oligarchs seethe.
All their private companies are run and managed by government workers and they routinely kidnap billionaires and make them do what they want.
Look at Jack Ma.

>>507358149 (OP)
China doesn't even have deserts

>>507363460
bong education everyone

>>507362612
> I don't understand what your plan for the future is?
Exactly. And your failure to understand is the real issue. There is no future. Not in the long term anyway. Our current civilization is already 100% doomed to collapse in the very near future due to multiple serious issues that the world is either unwilling, or unable to fix. The point of no return was passed decades ago. Our current civilization is a coda, an epilogue. The story is already over. Deal with it.

>>507358201
solar is a meme energy source used to paint yourself as eco friendly. Nuclear is a real energy source

>>507359071
>>507360644

The amount of pollution generated by manufacture of the panels alone made it worse than coal fired power plants. It's all good though, they will just dump the waste into the river since the Yangtze is so forgiving.

>>507358149 (OP)
Thats got to be a nightmare to clean

>>507358377
We put all our eggs in your basket murica. You gimped all of our countries to make yourself stronger. Now do your fucking job.

>>507363286
They're not run by government at all, they're given free reign to do whatever because China desperately needs the tech. Also pure state rule is functionally an oligarchy, do you think China holds elections? Are you saying they can just vote the socialist party out and scrap the planned economy? At this point a semantics argument would be preferable, because this is just DA JOOZ hysterics.

https://www.stimson.org/wp-content/files/file-attachments/Foreign%20Tech%20FINAL.pdf

Read the opening paragraph, they're the first country to allow foreign R&D do all of their private research.

>>507358149 (OP)
Good luck maintaining that.

>>507363573
yeah i know thank you for chiming in

>>507363801
they make it all, why couldn’t they?

>>507358149 (OP)
This can run one high school class worth of gaming computers if it’s not cloudy out lel

>>507363787
>Are you saying they can just vote the socialist party out and scrap the planned economy?
are they a planned economy or do their private companies run China pick one dipshit glownigger.

>>507363534
It literally doesn't. Asia doesn't have deserts, they're mostly jungle. Middle East has deserts and China is nowhere near there

>>507358218
>>507358218
>>507358218

>>507363939
>>507363939
>>507363939
SHUT
THE
FUCK UP RAJEET X'D NIGGER 80 IQ SUBHUMAN SHITSKIN RETARD

china actually cares about building up their own nation with infrastructure

america votes to let our infrastructure rot because of "niggers" who might perhaps make their way into our line of sight

>>507363939
> Asia doesn't have deserts
this has to be larp ... right? nobody can be this stupid

>>507360858
They already did that a long, long time ago. They've decided to be yellow jews now.

>>507363939
kill yourself

>>507358717
With negative void coefficients.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void_coefficient

>But if the rods bend?
Uranium does not bend, U breaks.
>But what if...
Energy grade uranium rods will heat up and will radiate for 300 hours (~2 weeks).
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizzle_(nuclear_explosion) <- this refers to weapons grade. Energy grade is even softer in effect

>>507362612
>Just to continue coping until there's a chinese whipping your back?
>Learn to compete.
The thing here is if you're being whipped does it really matter what race the whipper is? The only way to compete is to get whipped, so why bother splitting hairs

>>507358675
Microsilicate dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind.

>>507363939
lookup Gobi you dumb pajeet

>>507360625
all of them are the real jews

>>507358149 (OP)
>unlimited
It only lasts 3 years

>>507364126
Nobody associates Asia with having deserts because they literally do not have them. Asia is full of jungles and mountains
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>>507364212
>memeflags

>>507363731
>Now do your fucking job.
no

>>507364047
Miga already said they won't help Europe you are now officially our enemy.

>>507358149 (OP)
I FUCKING hate China
I hope they eventually collapse

>>507358149 (OP)
Imagine if those could all be focused on a single point to form a giant magnifying glass to burn planes out of the sky.

>>507358149 (OP)
The US military has the classified patents for 500% solar panel efficiency.
Source: book, Unacknowledged, by Dr. Steven Greer

China will never outpace the USA.

>>507364631
Romans did it first

>>507358149 (OP)
yeah have fun replacing that shit in a few years

>>507364492
i will continue to you buy your reposado and peñdejo tequilas i thibk theyre called so long as you remain based as such saar

>>507358465
West Taiwan is one of the most unequal nations on earth. Their entire economy is built on exports, in service of the first world. They are a paper tiger. The fact that you are impressed by a few potemkin villages while over 60% of the country lives like africans speaks to either your ignorance of the situation, or your intentional deceipt

>>507358201
Solar is for decentralized applications. I wish these greentards could actually implement it alright. Solar covered parking for parking lots would be the tits and generate a buildings power needs, with excess.

>>507362613
Don’t remind them how for every MW of solar or wind on the grid you’ve got to have a MW of NG on standby in case it gets cloudy or the wind shifts. And nuclear plants can’t ramp up fast enough to take over the load so it doesn’t destabilize the grid when it happens, so it’s got to be NG.

>>507363937
They're neoliberal that's my point. They're not socialist at all, but you were running the assumption that the state runs everything. I shouldn't have to spell it out, they pretend to be socialist by hanging up pictures of Karl Marx in their audience hall, but there's no functional labor unions in China at all. They're less socialist than the US or EU, that's why WEF praises them as a model for the future. Do you need to be spoonfed everything or can you pick up on context?

>>507364405
Well learn Chinese then

>>507358149 (OP)
What a waste of space and time. They could've made nuclear reactors instead of this grotesque abomination.

>>507358861
You have to go back

>>507364716
>creates jobs to maintain energy independence
>invests money into the economy since the panels are produced locally
this would be a win for america if we did it, too bad anything but coal is for fags.

>>507364937
They wouldn't hit le ebin paris climate agreements

>>507364913
yeah the country that has a party member embedded in every business so it can be nationalized at will is neoliberal.

>>507358531
kek. It was a server update, so those are the old chunks on the right

>>507364840
>cannot black start
>cannot respond to hard load changes
>must have spinning reserve
>O NOESSSSS A CLOUD

this anon knows what he's talking about as well, i shall see you out on the 18 and tennis court for white boy summer fren

>>507359071
>china claims something

>>507363577
I regret to inform you that you have fallen for the most obvious kind of propaganda, and it may indicate that you are retarded.

>>507364913
>They're neoliberal that's my point.
planned economies arent neoliberal.
Sorry China showed state capitalism works and has shown that you dont need to flood yourself with shitskins if you arent controlled by a jewish central bank.
Only country aside from Iran that doesnt have a jew owned central bank.
They can nationalize which ever company they want at will, and have party members which are government employees embedded into every big company in their country.
What more do you want?
You are just seething and yelling at them because of boomer brainwashing.

>>507358918
>It’s unironically over in less than 30 years
China is in a demographic crash spiral, its population numbers are fiction, it is less than a billion

Doesn't china have a near monopoly for the materials to create panels?

>>507364937
they are also building a lot of reactors. theyre building everything.

>>507365497
>youtube told me
the most depressing form of cope

>>507365461
>Sorry China showed state capitalism works
to some degree, but autocracies are always corrupt and incompetent, they reward bootlicking, not innovation. If Taiwan was running China, they would be even more successful than with the corrupt CCP

>>507358413
>imagine running maintenance
BLM flag,,are you evolving?

>>507365553
The rockies are full of good stuff, there just needs to be the will to open more plants

>>507358694
90% of those asians are varients of poo and seamonkey tho

>>507365635
whatever comrade, since when are any numbers from the CCP reliable

>>507365834
>since when are any numbers from the CCP reliable
remember when CCP reported 0.00000 Covid deaths for an entire year, when actually maybe 100 million were dying

>>507362485
Storage addresses the intermittency issue, allowing excess energy generated during peak sunlight to be used later, significantly improving overall efficiency. As storage tech like solid-state batteries and grid-scale solutions(connected evs, Tesla megapack)continues to expand and improve, solar’s efficiency and practicality will only grow, making it viable for both off grid and on grid applications.

>>507365461
It's not a planned economy, they're developing economy. How is it state capitalism when they're entire R&D sector is comprised of foreign private companies that they openly let do whatever they like in. Iran is a genuinely state run country, China is neoliberalism on steroids. If they dropped 'developing' status on their economy and weren't still collecting foreign ODA I'd take them seriously, but they're still focused on exports. So that means their 'economic planning' is centered entirely on globalized trade. Everything you wrote is purely fantasy, and you opened this entire conversation with 'not jew run'. Ah I see I guess Karl Marx isn't a jew and the fact that China still nominally professes to be Marxist means they're not kike controlled at all. Which is it then? State run socialist oligarchy? Neoliberal privatization? Because it's certainly not capitalism when their entire market is predicated on servicing foreign ones, that's mercantilism at best.

>>507358149 (OP)
China achieved unlimited internet seethe many years ago, anon

>>507358717
Same way they protect key vital transformer stations. They don't and hope for the best lol. Hell they do that here. The power grid so so comically unguarded in every country it is concerning

I hope to see China rise up durig my lifetime and wipe the U.S and their nigger worshipping off the face of the Earth.

>>507365690
>If Taiwan was running China
if taiwan was running china jews would be their masters and half of china would be filled with indians and the other half with africans.

>>507358675
you have to clean dust off them. That requires water, which is scarce in the desert.

I have seen a pile of smashed up solar panels in a C&D (construction and demolition) waste transfer station. They would go from there to a C&D landfill, which is different somehow from a normal municipal landfill.

>>507366148
All what you wrote is garbage, they have manufacturing and have control over their entire economy unlike the US that is run by jews.
PPP shows their citizens lifes are only getting better meanwhile ours are only getting shittier.
Sorry but thankfully now we have data to look at this stuff ourselves and not listen to some jew owned politicians tell us on the TV whatever his handlers want him to say.

>>507358149 (OP)
America in the 50s
>Tax corporations
>Use that money to build things that benefit the public
China today
>Tax corporations
>Use that money to build things that benefit the public
Muttmerica
>Tax the middle class
>Give that money to corporations and make them pinky promise they'll use it to build that benefit the public (lol they will not)

>>507358218
Kek, relax. America is still the world boss. Think about this - what clothes do the Chinese wear? What cars do they drive? What is their ideal for a city? Everything is Western as an idea. They are a joke of a people and country that copies everything from the West. Their ideal is within the category of a Westerner, but their "essence" is that of a third world dog eating chink. Their rulers aren't even part of the Western elites. China is a joke that will be back to a Weatern-copying third world shithole until 2050. Screencap this.

>>507366645
The manufacturing was set up by foreign companies and loans. China was mostly subsistence farmers until the 2000s. This is like potemkin village numbers. There's nothing structural about PPP, GDP, CPI, etc these are indexes. Tell me which frame of economic theory revolves around talking about an index for the existing price of labor when 90% of economic theory revolves around the division of it and production. Where does the production go? What does it do? How do you develop it? In China's case it's all private companies, so you can't tap any meaningful data, just like the US, and just like Russia (which is a more direct oligarchy). This conversation is as productive as arguing about sports teams, magical numbers and charts are astrology for redditors.

>>507363939
They have Tibet.

>>507365834
let me know when your alternative sources arent someone who got funded by a think tank and benefited from the repealing of smith mundt

>>507367339
>The manufacturing was set up by foreign companies and loans.
All of which can be nationalized in a second.
Yeah they took your funding in the 70s and 80s to set up their manufacturing base. Jews wanted cheap labour and they got it.
All the assets in china cannot go anywhere now as nearly all their billionaires are controlled by the gov not the other way around.

>>507360858
They already did it, many in the Taiwanese upper class (elites) are married with jews, this is a long term plan by kikes, they are counting on China taking taiwan eventually and then said elite just like hong kong elite will get entry into the Chinese political system, thus taking over China from the inside.

It's pointless to do it from mainland China because there is too many people, but from Taiwan? extremely easy. Hell look at (((Linus tech tips))) he married a Taiwanese too.


"Small but proud: Meet Taiwan's growing Jewish community
There are an estimated 700 to 1,000 Jews living in Taiwan. Most of them reside in Taipei, the capital city, but a smaller number live throughout the island. While the Jewish population in Taiwan is relatively small, it has been ***growing***, with some sources indicating a significant increase in recent years, particularly in Taipei"

>>507367741
Yeah jews are genestealers.

China will grow larger

>>507367731
They were absolutely not because they were set up via foreign loans. If you were arguing for Iran you would be absolutely right, but China is the most neoliberal system right now because their entire economy depends on exporting and global trade. Fucking read.

https://www.stimson.org/wp-content/files/file-attachments/Foreign%20Tech%20FINAL.pdf

>Propelled by open markets and economic reform, the 1990s brought unparal-
leled growth and economic development to the People’s Republic of China. At the
same time, but less widely known, China has begun to assume an influential
role in the globalization of high-tech research and development (R&D).

>globalization of high-tech research and development
>globalization
This is why WEF promotes them so much and why Jeffrey Sachs went full damage control when the US out of nowhere started rampaging against the global economy. Probably because Russia is absolutely fucking the US on trade right now because Africa and Asia has like a 33% caloric dependency on them and they produce as much oil as Saudi Arabia. I don't want to talk about your favorite sports teams with nukes, either read or forever hold your peace.

>>507365461
>Sorry China showed state capitalism works and has shown that you dont need to flood yourself with shitskins if you arent controlled by a jewish central bank.
The shitskins are a net economic loss, the kikes merely lied about their labor being competitive because kikes lie. Kikes are not capitalists or socialists, they are kikes. They perceive white nationalism as the greatest threat to their existence. Chinks already have a horde of obedient slaves, other chinks, they would have no motivation to import labor even if it was useful. The Chink elite treats their own the way kikes would like to treat whites.

There is also the issue that nobody can account for 40-60% of their economy and their light pollution relative to every other nation indicates that their economic output might be 40-60% smaller than the numbers they released estimated, what a coincidence. They just admitted to overcounting their population by at least 100 million, yet when they revised their numbers their GDP didn't change at all, odd. My point isn't that China will fall apart or any shit like that, it's merely that you can't trust anything they say their culture puts face above all else and probably is the biggest source for inefficiency in their system.


Remember without niggers and spics America would have had a trillion dollar federa; budget surplus every year for the last 40 years, and thats not accounting for criminality, medical expenses outside Medicaid, ect. Get rid of kikes and who knows how much malinvestment could be reallocated. The Chinks however don't have this same excuse, they are their own kikes and niggers. And much like Japan before them they got where they are by receiving preferential treatment, and they fucked up in the same ways Japan did despite knowing of their example. Xi fucked it up more by alienating the kikes and libtards, rather than continue to exploit them.

>>507358149 (OP)
Based China kicking fat Amerilard ass!

>>507369120
get out, durka durka pakishit you aint fooling anyone

>>507369521
Seethe, and then dilate with a Raising Canes drumstick.

>>507368401
>>507368918
Just the vpn switching that you just did destroys your credibility harder than I ever could with any arguing.

>>507367229
nah, the chinese have their own way in everything, funny cope though

>>507358218
Mandarin is the grossest sounding language ive ever heard

>>507369963
The Chinese just copy everything. Literally everything they have is a copy of something the west invented.

>>507358149 (OP)
The only thing USA has going for it was being number 1 lmao

>>507368401
This faggot does get it. People claim the US is "deindustrialized" but production has actually be slightly growing for decades. The issue was that all these larger corporations moved different components of the manufacturing process. And corporations which wouldn't do that suffered hostile takeovers and dissolution by kikes and their libtard pets, see US Steel in the 80s which was deliberately gutted. At first Japan was the primary recipient of this largesse but with the end of Cold War so ended their usefulness and they were getting too big for their britches and started to believe their own hype. I don't need to tell you the permanent recession Japan has suffered as a result of the end of this largesse. China then became the primary recipient in order to bring them into the globohomo system at least partially. Xi's faction actually undid this, he could have lied to globohomo and kept the gravy train rolling. He could have made ship up about easing social controls. He could have let Hong Kong operate semi-independently for the remaining 15 years it had left. He could have made minor concessions which ultimately would have still favored China with regards to retaining their special economic status as s developing nation. He could have been less belligerent against Taiwan and attempted a bloodless coup through bribery and manipulation. He could have handled the coofening far better instead of doing worthless performative shit and undermining his popularity. He may be and astute politician when it comes to the internal structure of the CCP, but he fucked up foreign relations to a degree I didn't think possible. You have conniving kikes and faggots who are terrified of any form of white Autarky, and thus will give you economic support so long as you pretend to support globulomer in the most surficial fashion. And the xenophile libtards of the west would provide a base of support there against protectionist measures.

>>507364437
>>507364437
>>507364437
C R I N G E

THE E.U. WILL COLLAPSE
RUSSIA WILL COLLAPSE
WEIMERICA WILL COLLAPSE

THIS IS BETTER THAN POST WWI
WHEN ALL OF YOUR SOCITIES WERE IMPLODING. X'D

THE SENILE BOOMERS AND POLICE
FLED BACK THEN
AND THEY WILL NOW. PUSSIES. BOY PUSSIES. POST BUSSY FAGGOTS.

>>507370005
try taking a 5 gallon bucket. fill it up with all the flatware in your kitchen, and roll it down the stairs

coincidentally that's also how they name their children

>>507369844
I'm not that guy and I could argue you him, because nothing he's saying lies up with anything I said. He doesn't even type like me. If this is your last argument I accept your concession.
I'll argue him for fun.
>China lies about the numbers
Doesn't matter because most of their factories are automated and maintained by private companies.
>China treats its own badly
They could but there's no reason to, they keep the status quo because trade is mostly out of their hands. They should make their own market if they want independence from globalism, but that's not what they want because they profit off neoliberalism.
>Niggers, spics, etc
Spics outnumber niggers 2 to 1. The problem with niggers is aid to Africa and all of the spics in the US came in within the last 20 years or so due to NAFTA. Cut aid to Africa and you'd see a net improvement to quality of life across the board, but neoliberalism wants to extract resources so you need to deal with this pseudo-colonial bullshit.

>>507370346
>>507370346
>>507370346
HELLO RAJEET CHINKCEL CONVICT SHITHOLE ANON

AMERICA WAS THE RICHEST NATION ON EARTH EVEN AFTER THE CIVIL WAR

MILLIONS OF WHITE PEOPLE
FLED YOUR OLD WORLD SHITHOLES
TO COME HERE... KEK. POOR ROOJEET.

>>507370335
except its not, stop falling for media propaganda

>>507370005
the SEA languages are far worse

>>507370778
Name one thing China invented in the past 100 years that's ubiquitous in western society.

>>507370463
It was Russia that broke the system. China imports most of their food and oil. Russia decided to not play anymore in 2014 and immediately Xi started to align more with him. I'm sure Xi is smart enough to realize that Russia would want to turn China into a series of satellite republics like they did during the USSR, so he's trying to play both sides. I don't see this as a position of power, I see this as a balancing act. The fact of the matter is Russia and Iran have their own resources and don't need to play by the rules of global trade, China is still developing by their own admission and still wants to profit off trade. Eventually they need to pick a side and Russia is the winning one right now, even the US is turning on globalism because they can't fix the prices of oil anymore.

>>507371012
ugly ass unreadable chingchong business signs in white countries.

>>507370574
I'm surprised the AI let you generate this

>>507358149 (OP)
what do they do when the sun goes down?
what do they do in 15 years when the panels need replacement?

>>507369844
Yes because its impossible for two anons to have vaguely similar opinions.


>>507370544
>last 20 years or so due to NAFTA.
40, but the last 20 were bad less due to NAFTA directly and more to the philosophy of the gutless faggots who run the government. The Bushes in particular are spic lovers and the liberals are what they are. Remember the entire Republican congress had to be threatened with total dismissal in 2007 when they planned universal amnesty for the spics. I think the motivation is less economic and more due to the fears of a civil war precipitated by white nationalism.


My vote is for genocidal civil war and then the total disruption of the global economy combined with systematic destruction of non-white infrastructure. Without food, medicine, fertilizer, and the ability to fix what is bombed we could kill 5 billion in as many years at a pittance. But that's unlikely for the moment.

>>507371297
Sorta, but Russia is weak as shit. The only reason these powers even get what they have is because globohomo is run by Jews who shit themselves at the mere potential of a racist white empire. I think the terrible showing Russia had in the 2022 invasion threw a monkey wrench into everybody's plans. Russia is no longer militarily confident. China isn't scared of Russia anymore. Globohomo was completely willing to let Russia take Ukraine and the fact that Russia couldn't and globohomos own conflicting interests internally caused Russia to decouple from them fucked that up. I'm confident the real reason Russia invaded the regions it did and focused on them is about oil and gas, more accurately denying them to competing producer who could service Europe and being enriched would fall into the US sphere. Both their internal political structure and their influence over Europe depended on it. But I am a petroleum geologist so I'm biased. Also like China Russia petroleum infrastructure was created almost entirely by foreign interests.

>>507358149 (OP)
China is the future, and America is the past.

>>507358149 (OP)
about 12% of their national energy demand is met by solar
>>507372277
>what do they do when the sun goes down?
power demand also drops at night time, peak demand is during business hours and when people are generally awake. This is when they fire up their absolutely enormous coal based power generation.
>what do they do in 15 years when the panels need replacement?
replace them, they have a workforce and industry unlike us

>>507358465
Western countries are in desperate need of a proper shaming. We're not moving forward anymore, we've all become like Intel in the 2010's with their 2-core 14-nanometer bullshit

>>507358717
build molten salt thorium reactors, which they're doing and we're not because everyone here is an idiot

>>507372621
I agree Russia is weak, but what can you realistically do to threaten them? Same thing with Iran, they're 'weak' but they have their own resources. They have real wealth in agriculture and energy resources and that's all it took. Someone looked past the graphs and made up economic statistics and said we'll name our own price. The entire global system is based on price controls, that's all it took. How can the US threaten them? Also China is dependent on their resources and food. Can they really afford to say move their production back into agriculture after spending all of these years liberalizing? It's not about strength in abstract it's about projection and the second NATO got too close to Russia they had an existential crisis because that means the US could realistically break them with their military. The same thing with Iran, if the US takes Iran then suddenly they're close to Russia. Putin's Ph.D was on using oil for geopolitics and oil is the primary resource used to control developing nations. Look at how the US completely shut down the Japanese navy just by a simple oil embargo, their entire fleet was sunk in just 6 months and they didn't have the industry to do anything. Russia not only has a wealth of oil, but also wheat. Cheap food is one of the biggest contributors to industry and China is highly dependent on food imports, they can't afford to keep up their current GDP #s and shift into agriculture. They'd need to go through a full on industrial reform and take a massive hit to their development momentum. So Russia isn't practically strong, they're weak as shit nominally, they're *effectively* strong just because they didn't let NATO get too close.

>>507373356
"im smrrter than errone else"

kid, come back when you get a job, your ball drop and you move out of your parents' house

at least they do not cover their fertile land with solar panels imported from China

>>507358149 (OP)
I'm sure that building a huge surface of shit instead of a desert won't have any impact on the weather in the nearby regions... no no, surely the whole are isn't going to become a literal induction oven and produce heat wave storms... lmao chinks are retarded

>>507358218
they cant read, dude. learn xinese.

>>507375574
>whole are
*Whole area

>>507372675
correct

>>507375574
cope

>>507358472
chinks are the jews of asia

>>507358149 (OP)
>muh global warming
everyone associated with this green horseshit need to be shot on the spot

>>507358149 (OP)
Goddamn but how much is this actually? China is so big this is even a notable percentage of their consumption? Why not just go nuclear?

>>507379160
Herro ferrow westerner!

>>507358413
>maintenance

You have 100 rows of 1,000 solar panels.

Each 100 rows have 1 cleaner bot that cleans 100,000 solar panels.

You have 1 guy who's job is to maintain the 100 solar panel cleaning bots.

>>507358743
>Show me your war face
Its the same war face.

>>507358377
>>507363061
this
the dispute was over the pomerania region. gdansk is part of this region. in 14th century german military orders and kingdom of poland signed a treaty under the holy roman empire called the second treaty of thorns 1466. "germany" dropped all claims to this region and it became part of poland. 500 years later they are still civil warring over this region. Why do I say civil war? because at the same time in 14th century, germanics became vassals to kingdom of poland and their civil wars brought the world to war twice

>>507366412
see >>507381332
it doesnt use water to clean. its air.

>>507358149 (OP)
Shut your damn mouth, retard.
You have no idea how environmentally dangerous this ridiculous gamble there is.

>>507358149 (OP)
>>507358218
>>507358201
>China has achieved unlimited power generation
Yeah

>>507380472
embarrassing cope, nafo troonies like you just cannot admit this is what a country without jews are able to do

>>507384393
>nafo
Lmao, you're just a chink shill

All that power and people are still using trash to warm up their homes.

>>507359563
grok is smarter than you, discard your opinion immediately.

>>507365428

The chinks can't even deal with plastic waste going into the ocean. Of the top 5 rivers contributing to ocean plastic wastes, China's got two rivers spilling filth into the ocean. You have the same understanding and care for the environment as the chinks.

>>507358149 (OP)
I thin 4% of chink power come fom solar

>>507358218
Konnichiwa

>>507358691
that's a pretty shit take on that data...peak efficiency is more like 50 K ... which is colder than antarctica. there isn't much of a spread over the range of normal experienced temps

>>507387518
>4%
Basically the energy intake necessary to let those spinning machines splat some poor chink worker on the floor

>>507373128

>replace them

So making more and create more waste.

>power demand drops

Not when everyone is plugging in their EVs. California is having this issue now even with less than 10% of vehicles being EVs.

>>507358149 (OP)
Solar panels actually burn holes in the ozone and destroys the ozone. China just contributing to destroying the planet per usual.

>>507359345
too expensive. solar farms are 90% subsidized by state grants, the moment you have to finance it yourself is instant bankruptcy

>>507358861
>humans

>>507358149 (OP)
>the entire field has to be replaced in 3-5 years and the waste cannot be reused/recycled and will fill landfills
BUT WE LE HECKIN SAVED THE LE EARFF WITH THE GREEN TECH!!

>>507358149 (OP)
Solar is a huge meme. Nuclear power is the future of energy.

>>507358149 (OP)
I would bet money that alot of them are fake just so China can fudge emisson reports

>>507358218
>muh solar panels
Waste of time and effort

>>507358149 (OP)
>One gust of wind

>>507358149 (OP)
A feature about America is it has vast expanses of land with nothing in it and it also gets a lot of sun, unlike UK/Ireland (though even UK and Ireland can do lots of solar). It's extremely suitable for generating solar energy.

The solar dream that many claimed would never come is here and the US is getting left behind. The only thing we should use oil for in the future is automobile engines, because fuck electric vehicles.

Actually it doesn't even matter so much if US is too retarded to have vast expanses of solar right now, even if you lose a decade or two it's not something time critical.

Imagine a world where instead of all the money being where the oil reserves are, all the money is where plenty of land suitable for solar is.

>>507358149 (OP)
in less than 10 years, all those panels will be broken.

>>507391570
cope

>>507358218
I'm sorry, but it's over.

>>507358717
Same way they protect anything else from getting bombed, idiot

>>507391570
Nah they last a lot longer than that. Inverters are a weak point though.

Who can stop him?