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Bigly Miscalulation Problem Edition

Hello Comrades & Patriots. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Kek lmao @ the Argentinian coward pussy

>>507394480 (OP)
Socialism is the future of humanity.

>>507395919
You cowards will never conquer anything.

>>507395368
I miss the days of being able to shoot in the woods, firing ranges are boomerslop.

>>507396038
How about you shoot yourself in the head? You weak filthy animal

>>507394480 (OP)
die retard.

>>507394480 (OP)
blessed threads

>>507397003
You've lost already. America is full of survivors that fled your piece of shit ideology

gommies are right about everything

>>507396156
>>507396225
it goes against my basic survival instincts.

>>507396225
some day we both will, comrade.

class warfare with greta!

>>507394973
Then why does this claim not exist in the soviet sources? Particularly the politburo resolutions of 54 and 55, which exposed Stalin's atrocities? Or later history books for that matter. It's really fucking weird for a document depicting an event like that to randomly show up to a british jew in 2014.

>>507394480 (OP)
>turbofaggot general

>

>>507397734
i have no idea what any of that says but it still made me laugh.

>>507397003
blessed norweganon shitposter

>>507397713
That dude act gay as hell

these white uniforms are transparent as they bend over

>>507394480 (OP)
>swap capitalists for a group of lazy retards

communism is just feudalism under a different name. leftists are fucking retarded

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

>>507398289

Niggers?
Tongue my anus.

Niggers? Tongue my anus

Niggers?
Tongue my anus

>>507394480 (OP)
KILL
ALL
COMMUNISTS

Niggers??
Tongue my anus.

Niggers tongue?
My anus.

>>507394480 (OP)
You faggots have your own website
Yes I know its just like three trannies calling each other a fascist and not much else but still
stay on your own shithole

Niggers tongue?
MY anus

Niggers?
Tongue??
My anus.

>>507397536
>it goes against my basic survival instincts.
You're a worthless parasitic piece of shit you have no survival instincts

>>507394480 (OP)
Communists arent people. It's OK to kill communists. It's OK to be White.

>>507399063
>communism is just feudalism under a different name
actual retarded faggot take.

>>507399938
i have more firearms than you guaranteed

>>507400148
i don't go to that site, I like /pol/.

>>507400248
>obsessed with niggers around his anus

BEEP BOOP!
NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS!
WEE WOO!
NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS!

>>507394480 (OP)
This will be a nice big tranny flop just like NAFO. We’re a NatSoc board and always have been. Hitler is our patron

>>507400501
Im so glad I was born in the 80s and got to watch Communism die in embarrasing fashion. You are a limp wristed fuckin faggot and I'd spit in your fuckin face given the chance

What tongueth the niggers?
My anus

>>507400731
Oops forgot pic

>Hey man
>It isn't cool when you say NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS like that

>>507400501
>retarded take
imagine believing in this "we all own property together under communism!" bullshit. you fucking retard. its just a power grab under another name

What do niggers tongue?

>>507401253
OH OH
Anus!

>>507400731
you wouldn't do shit little good goy. keep seething kek.

>>507401153
explain it then nigger.

Niggers tongue my anus

>>507401936
>you won't do shit
Oh I'd die before I ever let a pathetic animal like you dictate how I live my life or ration my shit
>explain it
I'm better than you at everything and I deserve more, eat shit and die.

>>507401936
i just fucking did, you fucking retard

Leftists want this as a part of public life wherever you live. They do this with impunity.

But, support Palestine? Now you loose your scholarship, degree, or job.

Most leftist bend the knee, like bitches.

you fucking moron. you're gonna trust browns, retarded whites, and blacks to play fair and "share" property under "communism"?

YOU IDIOT

>>507401153
You're retarded and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. In the USSR, everyone was guaranteed a home. You had to pay "rent" to the state but it was pretty much negligible, in most cases only making up a tiny percentage of a person's paycheck. In China today, 90 percent of people are homeowners and of the other 10 percent, a great many of them are provided with accommodation by their employers.

Compare this to the current state of affairs under capitalism where property is being increasingly bought up en mass by private equity and ensuing generations of people will never realistically be able to own their own homes. Instead they will be forced to rent for their entire lives at obscene prices. The money spent on rent is not given to the state and re-invested in the country as under communism, instead it's harvested by parasitical Jews so that they can live in the lap of luxury without ever having to work for it or produce anything of worth.

The only power grab happening here is that of the capitalist class grabbing more and more property so that they can better exploit the working man and steal his money from him.

>>507402815
see
>>507400832
Housing was so bad even the most elite USSR Olympians decided to flee at night and defect to USA, among shit loads of other people. Nobody is buying your lies and bullshit kill yourself

>>507402815
so what faggot, capitalism is why the dollar is the global currency. go live in China or Russia if you love communism so much. you're just swapping one government for another, fuck you retard

>>507402134
you're a manlet 40 y/r wagie shut in who has never done shit. you'll take it and like it rightoid.

>>507402404
oh i forgot you're retarded. you explained nothing kek.

>>507402639
>"I already explained it!"
>posts shitty "explanation" immediately after that still doesn't explain anything.

>>507402545
only virtue signalling liberals give a shit about Palestine. serious leftists feel for them, but ultimately understand there's more problems at home to work on.

https://vocaroo.com/1gj6DcY1cvqI

>>507403219
I'm 35 with 0 debt and plenty of assets you fuckin worthless piece of shit

>>507403219
you niggers cant even hold down a job but we're supposed to trust you to run the government under promises of "everything will be equal, everything will be shared".

fuck you asshole

>>507403219
>>posts shitty "explanation" immediately after that still doesn't explain anything.
I've explained it to you. I am better than you. I deserve bigger and better shit than you. It's that simple, see
>>507400731
>>507403014

based

>>507402134
There’s still inequality of outcome in communism, retard. A doctor or a lawyer would have materially better lives than a deadbeat. What would be removed is the consolidation of capital via surplus value.

Leftists want your daughters to do this to themselves for social clout.

But isral?
>oh that sucks
>kind of weird to talk about
>i heard nazies support Palestine
>oct 7 was bad tho
>arent jews White anyway?

Any further, you lose the degree. You lose your future. no gf and social clout.

>>507403219
Shut up faggot. The only lefties who stand with Palestine do it because they have nothing to lose and want to scrape the pipe for social clout and up doots on reddit. You are a pedophile who should be eaten alive by ants.

>>507403635
No there isn't, hence the reason why Elite Olympians among many other from all different backgrounds decided to defect to USA and not the other way around. Stupid bitch

>Not one mention of the ACP

/pol/, save the time from this autistic shit and join it. OP is a fucking fed from the RCP/PSL trying to get you fucking in jail.

>>507403906
We're not homosexual redditors nobody knows what that fag shit means

This is what modern leftism brings to your country and people. They are evil lunatics who want your sones to chop their dicks off.

>>507403847
Equality is a fantasy and has never existed. In any way shape or form, nothing has ever been equal.

>>507403340
KEK. if I'm ever in my 40s posting pics of my "assets" on /pol/ to prove a point, I promise I'll an hero just for you.

>>507403638
>repeats what I literally just said and posts homosexual content saved to his computer.

I don't know how some of you corposlaves can even breathe and walk at the same time

>>507403449
just say you're a mindless good little corporate worker bee. it get's the same point across.

>>507402815
It was also fairly common for a worker family to have a dacha in the countryside.

>>507404050
I dare you to click on it nigger.
https://acp.us/

>>507402545
>>507403638
No one's coming for your penis you weird ass faggot

>>507398289
Thumb should be inside if that's a socialist fist

>>507404221
just say youre an unemployed bum or a rich nepo kid who never had to work.

>>507404221
>that backpedal
You're a little kid that has nothing ahahahahahahah

>>507404270
Why would I click on that? I'm not a worthless and weak flaming faggot

>>507394480 (OP)
communism is so good the chinese have to have their own chinternet so no one can see wtf is going on in there.

>>507404463
imagine all the porn im missing out on

>>507404453
>Why would I click on that? I'm not a worthless and weak flaming faggot
So then have fun dealing with LARP parties here that will fucking go nowhere. Don't expect shit like Patriot Front or any fucking NatSoc LARP here in America to ever go on further.

>>507403177
>capitalism is why the dollar is the global currency
Yeah and who helps that exactly? Even US citizens live in an overpriced shithole because of that

>>507404221
When you say
>serious leftists
what you really mean is a number of mentally ill homosexuals or jews who want me dead. There is nothing serious about them other than the threat they are.

Here is a serious leftist. Look at him being all serious n shit.

>>507404306
Then why cut off dicks?

>>507403014
I can tell you're a good goy because you mindlessly regurgitate glowie propaganda without ever thinking twice about it. Most people don't live in pristine mansions under capitalism. You don't and you never will. You'll likely never own you're own home (although please feel free to larp as a crypto millionaire if it makes you feel better).

>>507403177
This is hilarious because the US is losing the trade war with China. And in fact, they're losing to China in most other metrics as well. This is something that is liable to happen when your country is run by coked up degenerate nepo babies who only care about stealing as much money as possible as quickly as possible instead of developing your productive forces.

And unlike you, I'm not a rootless mercenary who is willing to betray my country for an easier life somewhere else. I won't move to China. I will fight for Ireland instead.

>>507404636
>patriot front blah blah blah
Are you fucking 12 years old? I actually have a life, go fuck yourself loser

>>507404639
we do, we do. but i get by.

>>507404845
yeah, but it isnt because of capitalism. you're just wet for China

if it's such a flawless system you think the chinese would be eager to show it all off and stop isolating themselves from the global internet.

>>507404845
>I can tell you're a good goy because you mindlessly regurgitate glowie propaganda
see
>>507403847
I was fucking alive and actually witnessed it. Literally the Red Army's captain and assistants of their national hockey team plus their #1 prospect literally defected in the middle of the night and flew to Detroit of all places. Everyone here listened and read first hand on how garbage the USSR system was, from their very mouths. You fuckin FAGGOT

>>507404440
I've worked my whole life.

>>507404453
post some more of your "assets" you autistic nigger. your life genuinely sounds pathetic. I make $180,000 a year. I live with three different women. You will never be like me even with the years you have left, kek. Shoulda just embraced socialism sooner and your life might have been better.

>>507404879
I'm near 30 and yet I have a huge followingand I deal with major Communist groups. I am not like one of your cucks on (((lefty/pol/))) or groups like the PSL/RCP/CPUSA who do nothing but wipe their asses with the rainbow kikeoid flag.

I deal with faggots in the Donbas region and I have friends who are in the CCP who actually attend meetings which I have spoken too. What you see here is a shitty OP attempt to bring in a LARP that will go nowhere. Otherwise, this is a waste of time and yet nothing will get done here. I have been here longer than Trump ever first walked here and I know that this shit general never is allowed since it always has the same faggots. To simply put, touch grass nigger. You're the bottom of me.

>>507403847
Yes there is you faggot. Believe it or not, but it doesn’t make much sense to have a person who can run really fast be a millionaire. That is a structural inefficiency of capitalism and it breaks the rule of propagation of capital.
Meanwhile people whose labour was inherently more valuable were better remunerated. Not to mention that the eastern bloc manufacturing base was much smaller than the western bloc’s so they couldn’t afford specialize in soft industry and luxury goods as much, which always attracts the attention of this kind of people.

>>507405283
>post some more of your "assets" you autistic nigger. your life genuinely sounds pathetic. I make $180,000 a year. I live with three different women. You will never be like me even with the years you have left, kek. Shoulda just embraced socialism sooner and your life might have been better.

>>507405283
>180k annual
>live with 3 women
>communist
alright fuck you you bullshitter

>>507405305
>I'm near 30 and yet I have a huge followingand I deal with major Communist groups.
I'm literally laughing out loud holy shit fucking LARPING pussy ass faggots ahahahhahahahaha

>>507394480 (OP)
you are all scum
>>507397229
god I hate that rich snob, going areound stealing sunglasses at the airport

>>507397003
Leftists are fucked in the head and need to be exterminated.

>>507405315
>Yes there is you faggot.
No there isn't, hence the fact that the top elites in all different backgrounds defected. The Olympic hockey players that defected at night and joined my team in the NHL had to sleep in moldy barracks. You're fucking delusional and deserve to be bitch slapped

>>507405433
Keep dying for the kikes goy.

>>507405605
Keep playing make-believe on the internet, little boy

>>507394480 (OP)
Marxist Leninist's have never been more winning, constantly proven right, capitalist system eating itself, ZOG collapsing, rerun of fascism commencing, "When capitalism is in crisis it turns to fascism" , Lenin right as always.

Bolshevik revolution when?

>>507397229
son of a bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaSb1gV3JpA

>>507405666
You seem scared, your time is running up.
Good luck.

>>507404793
Communism is neither left nor right wing, it's the movement towards a classless society. There's conservative communism too.

I guarantee you the people you're showing are pretty irrelevant to it

>>507405816
see
>>507405179
I'm not a little kid like you, it's laughable how far you are from reality

>>507404793
Point me to one communist nation where this gender degeneracy is commonplace. Do we see it in China? Did we see it the Soviet Union? No. The only place we see it is in the capitalist world. Mentally ill people are easily exploited by the pharma-medical industry and turned into life long patients for profit. Puberty blockers, hormones, breast implants, facial feminisation surgeries, sex change surgeries, all of these things generate profit for the pharma/medical companies. And under capitalism, profit is all that matters. The fool that you are, you sit here and blame it all on communism.

>>507405859
>it's the movement towards a classless society.
Yet another meaningless platitude coming from a weak and worthless faggot

>>507405938
Hey faggot, remember when you made up complete lies and said that under communism everyone had a home?

Leftism is the religion of envy.
Leftists are spiteful mutants.
Leftists are subhuman pondscum who should be killed wherever possible.

>>507405179
>Everyone here listened and read first hand on how garbage the USSR system was, from their very mouths.
And who could be more trustworthy than a cadre of sell-out defectors who get paid by the CIA to spread lies about the Soviet Union?

>>507405938
Don't see anything from China because they won't show us how communism is succeeding over there. But in a way they are indeed showing us communism through extreme censorship.

>>507397229
insuffreable cunt other than stealing sunglasses he went when the gerald ford came here
>oh they are going to rape everyone or stupid shit like that and .... fucking rotten piece of shit, champagne socialst at it worst, grown up in a rich shit his mom propagandist on nrk....

>>507406151
Oh wow really they were all liars? They all risked death just because they felt like being silly? One had to get his friend that was a doctor to fake brain cancer so he could get discharged, where he promptly grabbed his wife and child and GTFO.

See this is exactly what happens. As soon as you fuckin animals get proven wrong you simply say "Oh they weren't good enough boys that's why they had to leave!" Why weren't any Americans defecting over to the USSR then asshole?

>>507404793
you are genuinely the mentally ill one if you believe that most leftists want you dead. they want you to have a better life you schizo faggot.

>>507405424
kek

BREAKING NEWS.. breaking news..
bjørnar moxnes have been arrested for stealing sunglasses again, breaking news is happening now

>>507404879
>Are you fucking 12 years old? I actually have a life, go fuck yourself loser
You're on /pol/, effeminate pussy

>>507406007
little wagie can't comprehend a life outside of his cage

>>507406543
What does that have to do with recruiting gay little kids to be in some online LARP group?

>>507406469
They risked death because they felt like getting paid a fuck ton of money and getting to live in luxury in the West instead of having to work for a living in the USSR. It doesn't take a genius to understand this.

>>507406615
>Dude, we're all just like, gonna hold hands and play under the cherry trees together!
What's it like having the mind of an elementary school child?
>>507406688
>They risked death because they felt like getting paid a fuck ton of money and getting to live in luxury in the West instead of having to work for a living in the USSR.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE IRONY IS PALPABLE

>>507406645
Your shaming tactics are female-coded

>>507406543
he had his pathetic life explained to him and now feels like he has to keep going or he loses. he probably has a dog that he beats.

based thread

>>507406958
using a memeflag and unironically saying "Coded" is cock suckingly gay faggot kys

>>507406958
Making fun of you for playing make-believe online is a female tactic?

These are the mentally-ill commie freaks spamming these gay threads, btw.

>>507407098
jesus fucking christ....

who hates usa? who hates norway who larps as leftypol

sunglass thief that's who

ooh fug shit happening in iaeal

Everyone in this photo abandoned the USSR and spit on it ahahahahahahahahahh

>>507406147
>>507406162
So just to clarify, neither of you have any coherent counter argument to this, right? You can stop posting your tranny pictures now in that case. It has nothing to do with communism and everything to do with the decaying capitalist system that rush so quickly to defend. And it's one of many symptoms of this decadence by the way.

What the fuck is this thread and should I be concerned about a falseflag

You guys, my fellow leftards, what are we supposed to do about the MASSIVELY POPULAR "Bernie Sandwich" meme?? Every time I see it, it makes me want to kill myself. We'll just never be as funny as the right. I'm so demoralized, better kill myself. We're done.
A lefty will never hold office again.

>>507407051
No, using the same language and tactics as foids is effeminate however

>>507407241
>So just to clarify, neither of you have any coherent counter argument to this, right?
The communist system was so bad everyone from important to non-important risked their lives to escape. Smuggling in Western goods and media was one of the best sources of income from the 70s on forward. All these people would laugh in your fuckin face for how ignorant and fuckin gay you're acting

>>507407470
Like what?

>>507394480 (OP)
No, Im not going to support your lifestyle of gooning and collecting Neetbux. Get back to the 7/11, your shift starts soon "Gomrade"

>>507407241
I'm a national socialist. I prefer being seen as a citizen belonging to a nation that has a culture rather than just some lowly worker that communist like to put a lot of emphasis on.

How can we stop the INSANELY POPULAR and WILDLY HILARIOUS "Bernie Sandwich" meme from spreading outside /pol/? It's the FUNNIEST meme that has EVER BEEN INVENTED! We have to stop it AT ALL COSTS!

the word slave comes from slav because they suck communist dick.

>>507406688
>They risked death because they felt like getting paid a fuck ton of money and getting to live in luxury in the West instead of having to work for a living in the USSR.
I'm still dying from this. Holy fuck commie little kids are so stupid and unselfaware

the future belongs to the working class

>>507405859
Class is simply a part of the human condition. You people literally privilege anyone other then White people spacifically for the sake of equality (which is fake) Hitler was right.

>>507405938
Every western nation today. I know its not communist, but its simply leftists. I am responding to the idea of leftism. kill yourself.

>>507406513
>just stop existing if you are White.
>living around black people and castrating your kids is a better life bro
Why are all of you obsessed with showing your dicks to kids?

>>507408213
This is embarrassing

>>507408213
Like this, they always call you a worker. I don't want to be seen as a worker, I am a human being god damn it. I am more than a source of labor.

>>507407474
You're replying to a totally different point I made so I'm guessing you are conceding the tranny thing.

And hey, you should consider asking ordinary people who lived under communism how they enjoyed it. Most of them would tell you it was actually pretty great. It's only really the unproductive parasites that disagree. Often these were people who came from wealthy families before communism took hold. I can only imagine the butthurt these people must have felt at the thought of being equal to everyone else, and worse yet, being forced to work for a living like an ordinary person.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/03/24/75-of-russians-say-soviet-era-was-greatest-time-in-countrys-history-poll-a69735

>>507408340
yeah i would hate to be involved with anything silly or embarrassing.

>>507408366
>Don't believe the words directly coming out of ex-USSR citizens mouths, believe this faggot ass poll!
You said it yourself, all these top athletes came over here so they can actually make some money and do something with their lives instead of being taken with their families and forced to sleep in cold barracks, and then threatened with violence for speaking out. You are an animal and I'd beat the life out of you if I could.

>>507408560
Yeah saying a prayer in public is just as embarrassing as larping online

Man, my fellow liberals, the first time I saw the BIGLY FUNNY "Bernie Sandwich" meme I knew it was over. We will just NEVER EVER be that funny. God I'm so demoralized. I think I'm going to kill myself.

>>507408353
not in canada you arent lmao

>>507408736
Jesus christ you little kids really do just spend all day in fantasy land

It’s pretty funny watching the trump cultist here realize how it’s all true that they are low iq traitors who voted for a failed incompetent administration

>>507408580
>I was fed, educated, and trained by my people so that I can bring them glory, guess I should betray them all just to chase some bucks
You don't have to be a commie to know this shit warrants honor killings.

>>507397734
kek

>>507408944
Whatever you have to tell yourself to get away from outside your garbage filled room, you fuckin loser

>>507407790
Show me a communist nation with no culture. Because I can't think of a single one. I can think places like China, Vietnam, the USSR and North Korea with incredibly rich cultures and strong sense of patriotism among the populace. And I can think of the capitalist West, where all cultures have been absorbed into one big grey blob of commercialism.

If you don't like being a worker, then that's your problem. You're not an aristocrat. You're a man like any other, and you'll work like any other. There is great honour and dignity in this when you're not being exploited by unproductive parasites and expected to grovel for the opportunity at that.

>>507409025
That's your expectation? To be treated like an animals by fat alcoholic retards that couldn't do shit if they tried? No wonder youre a commie that is absolutely pathetic

>>507408736
kek. nice fantasy. This isn’t some docile population waiting for revolution. The U.S. alone has more privately-owned firearms than people. Good luck trying to impose top-down collectivism on a heavily armed, culturally individualist, and freedom-obsessed society. You’d be dealing with millions of insurgents, not a few “reactionary” holdouts like this map implies.

>>507394480 (OP)
>/leftypol/
R*ddit already exists. Go back

>>507408580
I'd sooner believe the ordinary people of the USSR than a small group of treasonous turncoats who betrayed their own nation for material gain.

>>507409080
Have you actually been to China? That is the most soulless place on Earth

>>507408649
i wouldnt consider that just "saying a prayer" lmao

>>507409202
You sound exactly like your kids when they dump you in a cheap retirement home staffed by ex-cons and sheboons in a few decades.

>>507394480 (OP)
Leftism is a cancer that only brings oppression, poverty and misery.

>t. former involuntary communism "enjoyer"

>>507409299
No, you cope with some random poll and have to make up some vitriolic nonsense for the failures of the USSR. I don't have to call anyone of my country's athletes traitors because no one was risking their life to jump over into that shit hole. You stupid ass piece of shit lmao

>see thread
>Anons = helpless
>Gommies = running wild
>Time to step in with some old forbidden techniques
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

>>507409080
Let’s be real: places like China, Vietnam, and the USSR didn’t create their cultures under communism—they inherited them. China had thousands of years of rich culture before Mao. Vietnam had deep traditions long before Marx was even born. The USSR existed for less than a century and spent much of that time erasing pre-revolutionary art, music, religion, and literature in the name of ideological purity.

Cultural revolution? More like cultural obliteration.

>>507409551
Nah I sound like a person that got to watch elite USSR hockey players win my NHL team 3 Stanley Cups lmao retarded faggot

>>507395919
It already collapsed in 1991, thank God.

>>507409813
Just you wait, some pathetic faggot is going to show you a random poll that proves people in your country want communism back!

>>507409551
>>507409765
oh wait excuse me, EX-USSR hockey players
ahhhhahhahahahahaahhaahah

>>507409765
>Nah I sound like a person that got to watch elite USSR hockey players win my NHL team 3 Stanley Cups lmao retarded faggot

>>507409904
>people in your country want communism back!
We are deporting those fortunately

>>507409965
>oh wait excuse me, EX-USSR hockey players
ahhhhahha-ACK

>>507410026
>>507410129
What do these random webms have to do with the USSR utterly failing?

>>507410238
What's it to you?

>>507410364
>What's it to you?
Seems like youre desperately grabbing whatever you can find from reddit or twitter to try and prove a point, but it's so nonsensical I can't make it out.

So I'll ask again, what does this have to do with the USSR utterly failing?

>>507394480 (OP)
YWNBAW, kys faggots

>>507394480 (OP)
Not welcome here, go away

>>507409675
The idea is that "culture" is an invention of the ruling class, it is a spook that the poor think exists for them but really doesn't.
All those cultural artefacts, churches, art were for the rich and by the rich. They weren't an expression of the genuine will of the people who toiled in fields and factories, to drown themselves in misery before waking up for another 16 hour shift

I would argue this is different today and has been replaced with spectacle. We worship a representation of culture/our reality which has been created and moulded for us to enjoy - it's entire purpose is to enable us to consoom

>>507410491
Imagine the smell.

>>507409610
>158th post
This place is fuckin' dead

At least I'm a free individual-ACK!

>>507410491
The USSR didn't fail, it was destroyed by Russia and Yeltsin doing a coup.

Republicans: Trust the states! The states know what they need more than the government does!

The States: We need federal assistance in order to handle this pandemic.

Republicans: No you don't!

>>507409904
Its mental how they can belive that shit. The right has been getting supermajority election wins for 3-4 cycles now.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

>>507410806
This was in Michigan where my left wing governor forced retirement homes to take patients during COVID.
>>507410816
Whatever you have to tell yourself, pussy

>>507394480 (OP)
>period of class struggle
Accotding to Salvador Allende, Chile's socialist presidency had not the full support of thr USSR because he didn't believe in class struggle. Accotding to him, it was perfectly possible to skip it; after all, he got elected democratically and stopped riots by allying his governent with the chilean communist party. Too bad Kissinger's boys stopped him: we can all agree Allende's government was going somewhere.
Gabriel Boric also had the brilliant idea of recruiting the commie party so they would stop doing the Joker riots that started on 2019. They were similar to the current L.A. riots so I know what will happen: nothing. Rioters attack infraestructure as if Trump was living in them. They will eventually go home once they realize that most people don't give a damn on equality and social needs.
You honestly think you can inspire a nation of lemmings who can't even go to the bathroom without their phones. Where kids instead of dreaming of being a cosmonaut they dream of starring in a viral video.
In my humble opinion, you should focus on destroying monarchy and slavery. Then move on to a fair and just capitalism.Then on people veing fair and good SOCIAL persons.
And then, only then you can start dreaming on socialism and communism in a full form.
Late stage capitalism was coined 90 years ago, almost half the time capitalism has been around.
Lenin died a hundred years ago. Marx even before. Yet you keep repeating their old mantras and slogans as priests from those very same religions you were supposed to replace.
Forget avout Marxist Leninism, concentrate first on why people don't care.

>>507411067
If that was the case then why did the TCF center sit vacant?
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/detroits-9-million-field-hospital-shuts-after-treating-39-covid-patients

You cultists are the scum of the Earth

>>507410598
This idea that culture is a “spook” invented by the ruling class to delude the poor is not only wrong, it’s ironically condescending. It strips working people of their agency, creativity, and dignity, while pretending to speak on their behalf. It’s easy to call culture fake when you feel alienated. But to say it doesn’t exist is just surrender. It implies the working class has no voice, no soul, and no memory unless someone in power gives it to them. That’s not radical, it’s defeatist.

>>507410806
Yeah this is another thing that leftists support. Disgusting.

They also want people to be gay around kids, why?

>>507411264
Sigh. What part of what you think as culture is the result of working class invention?

It's all the rich, the people that decide what you see and hear

>>507411233
Yeah I'm not reading whatever your dodge is. Throughout the pandemic, plenty of states, red and blue, requested assistance from the Trump administration in order to handle the national crisis. The response from the Trump administration was to tell everyone to drop dead.

Meaning Republicans don't actually worship the state governments like they claim they do, since whenever the states ask for something that'll help out the plebs, the Republicans tell them to fuck off. Sending something down to the state governments simply means defunding it.

>>507410598
That's a very uneducated view of culture and egoism. It's also funny that you have such an obsession over an egoistic view when Communism itself, or class liberation, is a spook. In this instance, I would quite literally harmed by the implementation of a communist or socialist society and as I look for my own self-interest, I would not consider it. Do you understand what a "spook" is?
The majority of normal people in the modern age rarely actually have spooks, least of all on the right. Even God and Christianity are not things the average Christian believes, but are instead tools that the individual uses to his own advantage to either bludgeon those he dislikes or to advance his own personal aims in some one—at times social, at times political. They are not spooks or spirits in the Stirnerian sense, but known tools that are used pragmatically. Authentically irrational beliefs are rare; But I do give allowance to two major types, among others: Leftist identity politics, which is the humanistic belief that one "should" enact equality or equity among people, and socialism, again, the belief that we should enact equality among classes.

The political spook is more common. Many rightists might simply believe ina vague notion of the "right" and simply adhere to whatever seems that way, but the majority largely hate "leftists" and adopt whatever beliefs are contrary simply to bludgeon and bash those they dislike. In this instance, it is not a spook: It is a tool. It is his own. You, however, are dominated by the ideological spook of socialism. Instead of being a simple tool to advantage you, it is a dogmatic ideology to adhere to. And if it isn't? If you really see it as a tool to improve your happiness?

Well, many people choose Christianity as a tool for their happiness. Many proletarians are happier under their present system. Capitalism is his own. It is not a spook enforced upon him from without but something that he chooses because he enjoys it.

>>507411804
lol no. That’s just the Marxist version of the old lie that only elites made culture. Reality check: culture isn’t class-exclusive, it’s a jumbled mess of everyone’s input—peasants, priests, kings, beggars, nerds, soldiers, artists, merchants. Also, a lot of “working class” culture survived because someone educated or wealthy wrote it down, archived it, or gave a damn to preserve it. Otherwise you wouldn’t even know it existed.

>>507411804
>>507412292
I can explain it better but I would rather you move the thread to /lit/ and center it on a specific discussion of a text like The Ego and Its Own. Incidentally, he discusses culture a lot:
>The natural man's love becomes through culture a commandment. But as commandment it belongs to Man as such, not to me; it is my essence,[198] about which much ado[199] is made, not my property. Man, i. e. humanity, presents that demand to me; love is demanded, it is my duty. Instead, therefore, of being really won for me, it has been won for the generality, Man, as his property or peculiarity: "it becomes man, i. e. every man, to love; love is the duty and calling of man," etc.

bjørnar! if you are in this thread, don't the sun glasses, I have reindeer with bad eye sight it needs it rabans... don't steal them okay?

>>507411841
You're just making up a total lie while refusing to read proof that shows you're wrong. You're like a babby

When leftists say they want a better life for you..

This is what they mean.

>>507412292
I overused 'simply' in the second paragraph because I rewrote it twice and forgot to take out some adverbs. Very cringe to read it.

>>507411306
Because for some reason commies see some sort of moral imperative towards equality.

Not everything should be accepted, morality is a social construct. We can decide arbitrarily whether we like something or not, and sexualising children is gross

There is no inherent reason why being a fag hag comes along with being a leftist. Personally, I don't really care for that shit

Communism is so weak and pathetic this Macedonian immigrant opened a pizza restaurant and became so successful he was able to bribe out the Red Army to the point where he had multiple officers defect and join his hockey team.

tl;dr Communism is so weak the Little Caesars franchise blew it THE FUCK OUT

>>507412292
I'm not trying to debate the merits of stirnerism, I'm using the term spook interchangeably with social construct. I know the terms are different.

And yes, I realise that class struggle is a spook and I pursue it because it is my arbitrary individual preference

>>507413076
>We can decide arbitrarily whether we like something or not
This is why you belong in a camp. You need to be purged from society en mass, for the betterment of humanity and life in general.

Your arbitrary ideas of morality have failed, the erasure of your kind will save the world.

Also stay away from kids you sick faggot.

>>507412292
>Leftist identity politics
This is not irrational at all to non whites.

>>507413443
Ah I see. Besides the obvious use of ChatGPT, his LLM makes an okay point to address the rest: >507412523
Which with a little bit of critical magic, we can say that if we deem whatever we have been enculturated with to be foreign, then we do no more than make a rhetorical case for why the person we are speaking to should abandon his views in favor of our own. It is purely rhetorical, because both of us have been enculturated by other authors and thinkers in a similar way. Oncr I tell this to someone, they will see that since not even you believe in the essential moral value of your own beliefs, neither should he.
>>507413970
In a sense, yes.

>>507410598
No, most of the fancy food the elites eat today was peasant food. Artists were poor and died poor for most of history. Most art in western society was funded as propaganda for the masses for the purpose of bringing people to the church.

You're take that culture was created by the rich for the rich is completely false.

>>507405938
Lmao, the low IQ retards on here will struggle o comprehend the truth bomb you have dropped on them.

>>507412523
>lol no. That’s just the Marxist version of the old lie that only elites made culture. Reality check: culture isn’t class-exclusive, it’s a jumbled mess of everyone’s input—peasants, priests, kings, beggars, nerds, soldiers, artists, merchants. Also, a lot of “working class” culture survived because someone educated or wealthy wrote it down, archived it, or gave a damn to preserve it. Otherwise you wouldn’t even know it existed
Who had the ability to read in the past? Who had the material ability to push culture to the forefront?

Personally, I think this power should be taken from the rich and given to the state

>>507413621
Nigger I literally agree with you. I'm disgusted by faggots, I just realise that my disgust is baseless. There's also inherently no reason why I should get over it and for some reason a lot of leftists think there is.

>>507413443
Ah I see. Besides the obvious use of ChatGPT, his LLM makes an okay point to address the rest: >>507412523
Which with a little bit of critical magic, we can say that if we deem whatever we have been enculturated with to be foreign, then we do no more than make a rhetorical case for why the person we are speaking to should abandon his views in favor of our own. It is purely rhetorical, because both of us have been enculturated by other authors and thinkers in a similar way. Oncr I tell this to someone, they will see that since not even you believe in the essential moral value of your own beliefs, neither should he.
>>507413970
In a sense, yes.

>>507405938
This is also very true but a bitter pill to swallow for leftist socialists.

>>507405938
>oint me to one communist nation where this gender degeneracy is commonplace
The USSR literally had propaganda campaigns about women snipers fighting in Stalingrad as well if not better than the men. The USSR was full of feminist propaganda in the beginning.

I keep seeing this concept that communism is different from modern marxists when the reality is modern identity politics is just communism's logical conclusion.

For example, lets say we create a communist utopia. How does one deal with incels?

>>507414366
>my disgust is baseless
Yeah, this is why need camp. You need to be retrained to be a human being and know that disgust is a part of your nature as a human being. People like you think you are better then, not the bad ones..

You are. Camp will teach you.

Anyway, as the thread comes to a halt, socialism in the 21st century has been entirely destroyed by progressivism. Modern socialism must come from a right-wing perspective, or it is doomed to be torn apart from within by intersectional struggles between white proles and black, male and female, immigrant and native, trans and cis, gay and straight, and I believe in the future it will be very real for there to be Wolfkin and Catkin or whatever.
The capitalists were very good at dismantling socialism by hijacking leftist psychology.

>>507394480 (OP)
The great leader is here kulaks it's time for the national anal insemination against the bourgeoise, pants and panties down and sing the song of the people's

So comrades, come rally
And the last suck let us face
The Internationale unites the human race to suck great leader's big huge dick

>>507394480 (OP)
Hello comrades

Leftists want you be be their sex dolls. They are evil and disgusting.

>>507415888
>Modern socialism must come from a right-wing perspective
Yeah, it's called National Socialism and it's the only form of socialism that actually works.

Why would anyone do this to themselves? what kind of demons would support this?

Is this what good people do?

>hammer
>sickle

The symbols that terrify and brick leftists

>>507419078
You’re a fucking weird faggot for even having this shit saved lmao. You probably think you’re doing something special but really you’re just an unhinged autist who should an hero publicly.

I hope you all get bbc/nrk pedophile aids

>>507419884
I have this specifically to show people who deny or downplay its existence. This is what you do:
>do disgusting shit publically while insisting its normal and ok
>act like it did not happen or its not a big deal when confronted by someone rightfully telling you not to be evil.

Are you Jewish? why do you want to do weird shit with kids?

>>507419884
Wrong. I think it is a good thing he posted that. As many people as possible should see the disgusting truth of trans mutilation

>>507419884
Imagine thinking it's more unhinged to save the picture than do it to yourself. Imagine then defending this very thing.

bjørnar is pretty goated

>>507420229
You have it because you’re a fucking weird faggot.

>>507420244
Because you are also a disgusting faggot who very likely jerks off to it.

>>507420589
No one thinks that having the images is more unhinged than mutilating your genitals. It doesn’t make you less of a weird fucking faggot and he definitely has CP lurking in those files as evidenced by his autistic pedophiliac projection.

>>507420229
You know what kinds of people spend all day on 4chan posting about pedophiles and Jews next to autistic sex change gore? Pedophiles and Jews. You’re a fucking weird faggot no matter how you try to play it off.

>>507421148
Then quit complaining you dolt. All sorts of bullshit gets shared. You don't like candid reality then go fuck off to reddit. Gore has always been posted.

>>507421551
I don’t care what you post. I just want you to know you’re a weird fucking faggot and everyone in your real life probably thinks so too, if you even have anyone in your real life kek.

>>507421551
Imagine fucking knowing someone that spends all day posting shit like this on /pol/ because he thinks he’s doing some kind of service. You’re a fucking freak anon and you will never know love or friendship and it’s really your own fault.

>>507420229
>>507420244
>>507420589
saving this tranny shit makes you a tranny faggot as well, faggot.
>hurr i only saved gore to own those hohols/vatniks im not mentally ill
same thing

>>507421782
>>507422032
>>507422147
Why so much psychosis and projection? Can you calm down armchair Freud? Why don't you tell us how you really feel? Is this a person issue, maybe related to your mother?

>>507422147
he is a fed

>>507421147
>>507405678
>>507406192
>>507412789
I dont know what you are up to. But im on to you.

Fuck off

>>507394480 (OP)
teh day will come when Trump fans realize how wrong they were.

>>507399280
this is what I came to see if it was posted. Some things never change

https://youtu.be/ATY0KhMSOfY?t=236

>>507422947
you are mixing two flags
https://youtu.be/ATY0KhMSOfY?t=236

>>507394480 (OP)
greetings comrades, glory to the workers of the world

>>507399938
this

>>507425995

Big things are happening in Spain.

The people are calling for a revolution against the far-left socialists.

Why are the Legacy Media silent?

https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/1933828185541493235

>>507401339
racist!

what about those without anus-kind

>>507415692
A communist utopia can only exist post scarcity. Revolution is "permanent" in that we continue class consciousness, and strive for a more fair society, never being satisfied with the status quo.

Communists/socialists disagree with each other a lot on every topic, so don't take this as gospel. Some socialists think that incels are a reactionary ideological force worth fighting. I think incels in general mostly want power and are dispossessed by rapacious capitalism, and that a socialist society would be substantially better for them just by default.

>>507425902
>t. americanised norwegian aka pvt gomez

>>507419078
Because people endlessly navel gaze about who they are rather than becoming something. They're uncomfortable with themselves, are depressed and hopeless.

It doesn't matter who you are, literally no one fucking cares. You need power and consciousness of yourself in the world's context, not your genitals

all well and good till the vanguard fucks it all up

>>507428998
not today

>>507415888
Modern socialism needs to move on. It is stuck with Marx, and it needs to consider later thinkers and the modern context in its thought. Rather, you see constant revisions of Marx and other 19th century thinkers, mixed with critical theory and the bare minimum understanding of postmodernism.

Progressivism is accepted as a given and is not given structural analysis as to its validity. Identity is prioritised then deprioritised, made an individual inalienable right. Socialism is deeply unappealing to anyone but catladies in their early 20s with power fantasies

I think every socialist needs to read Baudrillard and ask themselves if a revolution is ever going to happen again, and whether they would be in a position to take advantage. Because like all radicals, they won't, it'll be reactionaries who murder the fascists (Spain) and set society back 200 years simply because "hurr durr don't like that"

We simply are not going to have an international revolution nor spread it from a national revolution. The US empire is way too strong and economically influential. We need to come to power like Hitler did, with remorseless political will.

>>507428670
Well said. The lie that Libs started trying to push genital mutilation or some other insane schizo shit is overshadowed by the fact that rightoids started screaming about them first out of nowhere. No one cared about trans issues until rightoid politicians started going on television in unison screaming about some minority that doesn’t affect anyone’s lives like they often do. And now we have to watch retarded niggers post genital mutilation gore because their IQ is so low they can’t fathom they’ve been psyopped by powerful rightoids who want to keep them down with the cockroaches. It’s entertaining and depressingly pathetic.

>captcha: STD, HA!

>>507429726
What do you mean? The average leftist doesn't know anything about theory, but their entire mindset is fully shaped by post-Marx intellectuals. Progressivism was the final development of Marxism, with its initial stages centering around these sorts of discourses, here's one example:
>Two, CENTRAL TASK AND PREREQUISITE The fight against white supremacy and white skin privileges become “the central immediate task of the entire working class.” (p.3) “Communists.. .must go to the white workers and say frankly: you must renounce the privileges you now hold, must join the Negro, Puerto Rican and other colored workers in fighting white supremacy, must make this the first and immediate and most urgent task of the entire working class...” (p.6) ”As soon as white supremacy is eliminated as a force within the working class, the decks will be cleared for action by the entire class against its enemy.” (p.6)
>Two, CENTRAL TASK AND PREREQUISITE The fight against white supremacy and white skin privileges become “the central immediate task of the entire working class.” (p.3)
>Three, KEYSTONE TO POWER “It (race privilege) is the keystone and mortar of their (the bourgeoisie’s) overarching power.” (p. 15, Can White Radicals Be Radicalized)
>Four, REPUDIATION The way to fight white skin privilege is for white workers to repudiate them. “For nowhere in your (P.L.’s) literature do we find a single appeal to the white workers to fight against white supremacy in the only way possible, by repudiating their white skin privileges and joining in a struggle with the rest of the working class for the demands of the entire class.” (p.4) “.. .there are only two paths open to the white workers: with the boss or with the Negro workers, abandonment of all claim to the share in the shaping of our destiny, or repudiation of the white skin privileges for which we, in our very infancy, pawned our revolutionary soul.” (p.8)
(cont)

>>507429726
>>507431134
>The principal mistake in the WBS is its conception of racism. WBS states: the material basis of white chauvinism is the practice of white supremacy. (p. 3 WBS) This is a circular argument. Where does white supremacy come from? Does it fall from the sky? It is the equivalent of saying: class antagonism comes from the practice of class exploitation. This leaves out the material basis of class exploitation – the capitalist system. Any combating of exploitation that does not seek to destroy the capitalist system can only leave the basis for class antagonisms and exploitation intact. Likewise, any combating of the practice of white supremacy, unconnected to the capitalist system from which it springs and which nurtures it, leaves white chauvinism and white supremacy intact. This failure to understand that the basis of white chauvinism and white supremacy lies, in the final analysis, in the world capitalist system, leads to many errors. It leads to not placing the struggle against white supremacy as part of the main struggle, the struggle against capitalism.
He compares white skin privilege to original sin and thinks that it will prevent the proles from ever uniting. Old guard Marxists tried and horribly failed to refute progressivism, and they essentially predicted how progressivism would turn out. Theory can't really fix this, and postmodernism more or less helped to get progressivism, which is really Marxist materialism applied to every other "class" of people (race, ethnie, sex, sexuality). Any revolution will be comprised mostly of these same deranged oversocialized progressive faux-revolutionaries.

>>507431444
>>507431134
>>507429726
The way this guy failed is by acknowledging white supremacy as a problem at all. Communists would have been able to make much greater gains on a majority racist white nation than if they had aligned themselves more or less with psychotically insane anti-white factions in the USA.

I simplified my statements a lot for the board format but the idea is that progressivism is too entrenched (whether you personally like it or not) and revolution itself is antithetical to the bourgeois socialist aim of uplifting every group.

>>507429726
One last thing that wasn't clear in my post is that while many leftists may not FEEL that these social issues take the forefront of leftist dialectic, they very much do. If you could choose a sudden racist, patriarchal socialist revolution with plans to exterminate browns and all billionaires or to fight back and wait for a "real" socialism, what would you choose? The social issues take precedence for most leftists ...

>>507394480 (OP)
Excuse me, commie scum?
The Betsy Ross flag is our's. You don't get to use that. Its the flag of WHITE America, not what ever "Everyone is equal" bullshit you faggots are pushing.

>>507432010
Patriot Front is full of multicultural liberals-in-denial.

>>507432090
Prove it.

>>507432010
and you are a fed

>>507432264
How am I a fed?

>>507432350
you are fedding around and being a federal

i don’t trust feds

>>507431675
>>507431909

I mean you're right. Socialists don't know theory, and the ones that do are obsessed with only Marx, and that's kinda my point.

Even the online "intellectuals" like Hakim have an infantile understanding of modern left wing thinkers like Zizek and Deleuze, and they need to take from these thinkers to move on

I would 100 percent take a racist patriarchal socialist revolution over waiting for something perfect. But I don't think many socialists will, because their obsession is with identity and third worldism

>>507394480 (OP)
Hey sisters!!

>>507432143
Maybe I was too quick to judge based on what I heard. Their manifesto is interesting so far, but I would recommend being skeptical of groups like this. They still come off as far too close to liberal in spirit:
>The previous era has been spent diluting the definition of what an American is. The coming era will refine the definition of an American. To the American people our movement is revolutionary, yet familiar. We bring forth the traditions of our past imbued with new vigor to bring us closer to our grand vision. Our tradition is revolution, and our land is where tyrants come to die.
and
>This nation once sought freedom from a tyrannical, global power, and those who fought for liberty dedicated their efforts to the people they served rather than the government that denied them a future.
Although they do criticize liberalism and try to differentiate it with a collective liberty (freedom of a race as a whole) but this leads us to a very old problem with democracy. They don't really have a political vision, it does come off as essentially revolutionary.
>There is a balance between viewing society as many disparate individuals, or a single unanimous collective, which must be realized.
And this seems very empty. The manifesto (after my speed read) isn't saying much but creating a collective cultural feel within the group. It seems like diluted nazism, so I wouldn't doubt it if this is their front for what amounts to a pan-european american Völkisch movement. Hard for me to agree with this but that's just based on how it will likely turn out (badly and coopted).
>>507433036
Well that just means you're a high IQ socialist, which means you will be very, very lonely politically speaking.

i have more in common with the person on the left than the person on the right

>>507394480 (OP)
>goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

Contradiction. Profits are needed. Profits are savings and savings allow capital formation which allow for mass production of goods. No profits=savings=no mass production.

>From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

People aren't machines. They produce according to desire and will NOT ability.

>socialist state, which is controlled by the working class

Contradiction. States cannot be controlled by the working class because they are working and not managing i.e. in governing to organize work. Once a person starts "working" in government or management then they are no longer working class as their interests can't align if dialectics are true. The good news of dialectics are wrong and harmony of interests is the basis of social organization and dialectics can only result in war and social destruction. The world of reality is made of harmonic forms not oppositional dialectical "forces." Dialectics are low IQ.

>It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

You don't need to do that you just need to read what he wrote about capital depreciation to know he was low IQ person with no math skills.
Karl Marx was so low IQ he though to be efficient you wouldn't discount the rate capital depreciation because the social state would control the value and thus no capital depreciation need be priced.
Say it out loud: "the rate of capital depreciation need not be discounted"....if you don't understand how much of an imbecile you'd have to be to write that then you shouldn't have political opinions.

>>507428180
There is no such thing as post scarcity. Bringing things back to the culture thing, people literally value things purely because its old. There is no post scarcity on a famous original painting even if printed copies are near identical. You are a foolish retard.

>>507433884
Obviously, which is why communism is impossible and anyone who isn't a retard knows this.

>>507432010
I consider myself an America loving patriot. I am also whiter than you. You can give yourself an enema and drink what comes out fed faggot.

>>507432830
fucking destroyed him.

fuck off kike

>>507434411
When you kill all the Jews, white people will be the ones that oppress you and sell you out.

The only solution is explicitly anti capital

>>507434326
Shut the fuck up, commie scum. You're not white, you're basically a jew. You'd never say any of this to my face either because I'd shove my Walther in your mouth and pull the trigger.

How does leftypol reconcile supporting Islamic countries with the fact that their religion is much more regressive than anything in the capitalist West or even the ex Soviet block?

>>507434411
>Propaganda
Retard

>>507395919
I am usually pretty vehemently offensive but I won't care to oppose this. I don't like what Trump did with AI porn and wants to do with Hud, Human services, Medicaid and regular porn. Even he knows he's fucking up.

>>507434130
So why would you continue to fight for a utopian impossible dream. Especially considering attempting to achieve this impossibility will have huge detrimental ramifications. All for nothing I might add.

>>507394480 (OP)
Ethnicity-based communism without a central bank controlled by international financiers sounds good

>>507434747
facts

>>507434943
>memeflag
kike

>>507434943
Realpolitik. Same reason you probably support Israel that's raping the shit out of the west.

>>507434937
Realpolitik. Same reason you probably support Israel that's raping the shit out of the west.

>>507434750
you sound like a fed and you’re nothing but a SS shock troop for international high finance and zionism

>>507435539
I support them over the Muslims.

Outside of the USA the West is mostly secular materialist. There is no "realpolitik" with the sand people; it's a mistake to think Muslims will be fine with queer space communism or whatever you want.

Every modern "communist" is simply a useful idiot of the CCP and thus the zionist Jews.

It is an anti-Christian ideology that persecutes Muslims as well and is against everything America stands for.

trannies are not welcome to the proletarian revolution

>>507435483
by 1946 stalin had already executed most of these jews

i denounce every violent and tyrannical regime we are going to uplift the idea of socialism for billions

>>507436186
good for him

>>507436731
Wew Anarkiddies were maybe onto something

>>507434750
>schizo rightoid acts tough online.
Many such cases.

>>507436731
What happened to Trotsky?

>>507437144
something awesome

Reminder that there is no censorship on 4pol, and that is the sole reason leftists don't use this site

Nothing you have to say stands up to any scrutiny, you rely entirely on certain types of argument being banned.

Nobody has any sympathy for you, your public image is astroturfed, you rely entirely on hiding the most feral and degenerate of your own supporters.

You are snitches who DOX people, give IPs to the feds and call the police, you're all on Jewish welfare programs, enrolled in public institutions, you've got Netflix.
I live in the woods and don't even have a library card, I died in 2000 on the day of the millennia.

>>507437498
im sure it has nothing to do with how annoying you feds are

>>507437498
Nigger most radical leftists are radical losers just like rightoids

Your inept innawoods ass ain't changing anything, and neither are we

>>507431675
>>507394480 (OP)
If you guys managed to cut out the rabid hatred of white men and acknowledged the fact that socialism only works in homogenous societies, you might be able to accomplish something of note. Socialism requires that people are invested in the wellbeing of their communities, love the people around them, and feel united by a sense of kinship, which is directly negated by multiculturalism.

>>507437498
Threadly reminder judeocapitalist america had to deploy sanctions, coups,regime changes, assasinations on a supposed failed ideology that would never work