Thread 507419580

Reminder: YOU NEED TO BE
BURNING 100 DVDs EVERY
OTHER WEEK. W/OUT fail.

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O F
C O P I E S
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(but really just 3, or 30 if particularly Devine, aka Stars of the Lid tier, 300 copies from a single master source)
Etc.
Every loophole gets closed eventually.

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Burned DVD's become unusable after like a decade or two I think

just use hard drives

>>507420201
Hard drives become unusable after like a decade or two I think

>>507420512
So do DVDs. A lot of the first dvds are already unreadable. You should be using blue ray M Discs if you really want it to last. Kinda doesn't matter anyway because computers don't last hundreds of years so kinda doesn't matter if your disc does

>>507419580 (OP)
I own films on blu ray, 4k and dvd, and vhs.
burned discs are shite.

>>507421362
>>507422982
This
Commercial dvd/cd last almost forever, but self burn ones last from a year for very shitty brand/water damage lifting the metalic layers, to 10ish years if you really store them nicely and burn them at low speed.

Keep a copy on dvd, if you want, okay. But burn it slow (1x to 4x, maybe 8x. Yes it will take time, but error recovery will be used for actual degradation, and not fast burning artifacts).
And keep a copy on a hdd (NOT ssd).
These are cold storage you put at some other place (like trusted friend or family).

And then you have live archive, with 3 discs in raid5 (or any other better multi disc redundancy and error correcting mean) on a local server (tey to let it run, but if you must stop it, try to turn it on and check at least each month).
Also, the good old cloud (encrypted tar.gz to prevent random hash detection and deletion).

Lastly, if you have the means, buy a tape recorder and tapes. This is the best way to store digital data (with m-disc).

>>507420051
No. This is why hospitals use them to store data. Bit even if they did only last a decade they are more stable than HDDs and SSDs!
>>507421362
I have hundreds of DVDs that are 20 years old and only one stopped working and that's because I was bending it to slide out into a folder and the two plastic discs that's are lightly glued together came apart. After 20, not 10, years and literally 1 disc.
"Bit rot" is a myth to get you back on the streaming bs
Doesn't matter if you store 1tb or 100tb for 60 bucks if all of it disappears in an instant because you dropped it or it got hot or whatever.
Hospitals rely on DVDs.
Not Blu-ray. Not m disc, you fucking pseud midwit commie faggot idiot

>>507419580 (OP)
>>507424148
I intentionally wipe all my drives once a year in order to free myself from attachment. Nothing will last forever no matter how much time and effort you spend trying to preserve it.

>>507424148
>Commercial dvd/cd last almost forever, but self burn ones last from a year for very shitty brand/water damage lifting the metalic layers, to 10ish years if you really store them nicely and burn them at low speed
Total bullshit. You didn't know what the fuck you're talking about . You've never burned DVDs abd stored them and tested them I have hundreds of them. Literally .
I have dozens of books.
20 years later, less than 1% failure rate.
Idiot

>>507424366
Wipe yourself today

>>507419580 (OP)
it's important to burn properly so it actually lasts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbxaPc2Xf5M

using regular dvd/blu ray is crap

>>507419580 (OP)
>>507420201
>>507424316
DID YOU KNOW

DVD discs are no longer manufactured!
(those empty discs used for burning, however movies continue to be released in DVDs in small scale)

>>507420512
actually it takes 50 years for a hard drive to fail solely from age or disappearing magnetization

but ever since 1999 we have this problem of hard drives breaking down in use due to them being too complex machines

those 90s drives are effectively immortal though
they are sadly useless due to low speed and not storing much more than a couple of DVDs

>>507424709
>hoarder seethes at the suggestion that all the time and money he wastes "preserving" his
>>507419580 (OP)
>FUN N FUNNY ART
>is actually completely pointless and unnecessary
Don't worry, I'm sure your kids will appreciate your folders full of ai slop like, excuse me while I lmao,
>illyrio Mopatis KYS.png
They definitely won't just chuck all your carefully preserved garbage in the trash. Guess it doesn't matter anyway since we both know you won't be having any kids.

>>507419580 (OP)
>SEINFELD

it's all on the internet so no need to worry

>>507419580 (OP)
>Disc rot is the tendency of CD, DVD, or other optical discs to become unreadable because of chemical deterioration. The causes include oxidation of the reflective layer, reactions with contaminants, ultra-violet light damage, and de-bonding of the adhesive used to adhere the layers of the disc together.

>>507420051
Who the hell told you that? I have burned DVDs that are 20 years old that still work fine.

>>507427055
Don't cum on the disk

you know they have a shelf life right? like 10 years

why bother?

>>507427001
I have gay porn clips on cds I burned in 1996 that still work

>>507420051
Look up m disc you niggas

>>507426287
Kids? That's what people who have sex have right?
But seriously, you here crying is precious and funny
Reminder: YOU NEED TO BE
BURNING 100 DVDs EVERY
OTHER WEEK. W/OUT fail.
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B U R N - 2 - D I S K
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No HDDs
or SSDs!!
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WESTERN CLASSICS
TTC
SOCRATES
HUMANISM
POLITICAL THEORY
METAPOLITICS
FUN N FUNNY ART
etc
C O P I E S
O F
C O P I E S
O F
C O P I E S
(but really just 3, or 30 if particularly Devine, aka Stars of the Lid tier, 300 copies from a single master source)
Etc.
Every loophole gets closed eventually.

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Semiotext(e)
Arktos
Soft Skull
Small Beer
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Dictionary of...

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>>507425816
That’s not true. I still see brands like Verbatim and Memorex on shelves. CDs, DVDs and Blu-rays.

>>507427276
Amazing

>political slop
>philosophy slop
>(((humanism)))
>(((art)))
>not a single mention of applied physics, analog electronics, or chemistry
Deeply hebraic post.

>>507427001
The ones they make now are shit.

>>507427454
What if I were to store media on an external hard drive I keep unplugged until I use it?

>>507419580 (OP)
I read a lot of books and backup all my data all thentime on a variety of formats. Shame you will be doing this for boring gay nazj politics shit instead of some art that enhanced peoples lives irl.

>>507427454
TRA LA LA LA LOLOLOLOLOOOO

WE ARE THE LIBRARIES NOW!
WE ARE THE KEEPERS OF THE FLAME.
THE ARCHIVISTS AWAITING A READER.
WE ARE THE FLAME AND THE SHADOW.
Quickly! Quickly, children!!
Use VPN.
Or just download fr phone w Flud etc.
>Or just download fr phone w Flud etc.
Or just download fr phone w Flud etc.
BUT
Every loophole gets closed eventually.

Site blocking is HERE, not MONTHS, away.
THEY NOW HAVE VPNs
EVEN.
MAKING THEM BLOCK P2P.
BURN EVERYTHING YOU DOWNLOADED FROM ALL THE PREVIOUS EARNING YOU SURELY HEEDED,
to an OPTICAL DISK!!
THEN DO IT AGAIN.
AND AGAIN.
AND AGAIN.
AND AGAIN.

>>507427799
Having more redundancies and a decentralized spread out connection is just safer.
I lost 20 TB during one cross country move. 10 years worth of playlist and etc and decided fuck ever having to go through that again

>>507427524
you dont understand that those are old stock
no new discs will ever be made again
manufacturign stopped in december 2024

>>507427977
the shuttering might slip once or twice.
GET WHAT YOU GONNA GET
FRONT AND CENTER.
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>>507420051
>>507427792
yes, the ones they make now are not the same they did a decade ago, almost all optical media is now made in china.
>>507424148
>>507424639
nigger you are very confused, the market has changed and most optical media is no longer reliable, it's nobody's fault but media manufacturers. The french flag is correct, the best way to store data long term is m-disc.
>>507424316
niga you are so very confused, the most stable way to store data is M-DISC, after that comes HDDs if you know how to do it.
It has nothing to do with streaming but rather the proper way to back up data, the OP suggests to make a cultural back storage, the OP is focused on long term data storage to create a cultural backup, right?

>>507425816
>>507427524
>I still see brands like Verbatim and Memorex on shelves
I'm sorry anon, I truly wish you'd be right but all you are seeing is CMC made branded media, Verbatim was the last one to go.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14597/cmc-buys-verbatim-assets-from-mitsubishi

>>507426139
>those 90s drives are effectively immortal though
ikr? I still have a 2tber from like 20 years ago, it's starting to show signs of aging like super slow writes but I keep it around for older games.
I lost the link to an article discussing how most new drive failures happen in the first months to a year.

>>507427788
Valid criticism I always appreciate.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6062508

>>507419580 (OP)
why would i do that instead of saving it to tape fucking retard

too many contradicting information itt.

If you really want to store important data, or backup shit like OP suggests, the way to go is make redundant backups in HDDs, SDDs are not good because without constant electrical charge the data eventually gets corrupted, we are talking long term of course.
All optical media is fucked up now with the exception of M-DISC media, besides that it's really messy to store hundreds and hundreds of discs of backed up data, which can get corrupted, decayed or plainly lost.
The other thing is, manufacturers are slowly phasing out the production of optical drives so eventually you won't be able to get a good optical drive that readily. Yeah, you'll own nothing etc...

https://fromvinyltoplastic.com/pioneer-exits-the-optical-disc-market/
https://hackaday.com/2024/07/25/end-of-an-era-sony-cuts-production-of-writable-optical-media/
https://easytechsolver.com/why-don-t-computers-come-with-optical-drives-anymore/

Ideally make redundant backups on all kinds of media, that way you get less points of failure. Even get a hardware backup like an older computer with optical drives and older connection ports.

>>507428213
do you have info on this?

>>507426871
>>Disc rot is the tendency of CD, DVD, or other optical discs to become unreadable because of chemical deterioration. The causes include oxidation of the reflective layer, reactions with contaminants, ultra-violet light damage, and de-bonding of the adhesive used to adhere the layers of the disc together.

Yeah, don't get them wet, don't set them in the sun.

DVD's have a shelf life of 100 years according to National Archives.

The anti-DVD shills are WEF.

>>507419580 (OP)
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for me, it's m disc

normal discs can rot in a couple decades
m discs last a millenia (the data preserves for 10 millenia if you recoat the disc)

works in any blu ray drive
though you do need an m disc burner to burn these discs

available at best buy

>>507427116
>>507431204

Use LTO tapes instead

>>507431830
M discs are meme discs
>>507431854
tapechads will survive and get all the women

>>507430760
just move to verbatim bdr

>>507432186
>>LTO tape is designed for 15 to 30 years of archival storage.[53][54] If tapes are archived for longer than 6 months they have to be stored at a temperature between 16 and 25 °C (61 and 77 °F) and between 20 – 50% RH

m discs last for 1000 years. but future archeologists will be able to access the data for 10,000 years

>>507419580 (OP)
BTDT.

Anon, we are entering the Apocalypse now.
There is no preparing to restart after that.
It is the End.

Keep what you can carry.
After that, you will have to rely on God to provide...or take the Mark.

>>507434101
>If God tolerated the breaking of the law, evil would profit at the expense of good.
Okay so we are currently killing off many many different species as well as making the earth less habitable in general in exchange for oil and money, so evil is currently profiting off of good. What now?
>If he allows this, God would no longer be just, or loving.

>>507419580 (OP)
vhs has a better data storage capacity and lasts longer

>>507419580 (OP)
Why Semiotexte? That stuff is Marxist bullshit.

wait, why disc or m discs at all? isn't a thumb drive better than all?

nvm i looked it up, 10 years

>>507419580 (OP)
No one has CD drives anymore since 10 years idiot.

>>507436577
are you a fucking woman on her ipad? everyone bought a cheap portable drive

>>507419580 (OP)
Correct.

>>507432472
yeah enjoy your chinese media

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14597/cmc-buys-verbatim-assets-from-mitsubishi