How did a Turkic tribe of converts (Khazars) fool the world into believing they were native Palestinians?

>>507422949 (OP)
Those hats cost like 10 grand btw

>>507422949 (OP)
No such thing as native Paleshits, just Arabs on one side and Jews on the other fighting over land that probably belonged to some bronze age farming types before Abrahamic rape apes rolled in

>>507422949 (OP)
No saar we come from hot desert saar that's why get get skin cancer and sunburns saar we are god's chosen people it says so in the book we wrote.

why did these turks speak german (yiddish) ?

>>507422949 (OP)

>>507422949 (OP)
(((deals)))

>>507423109
Wrong.

>>507422949 (OP)
It's almost as if that's a retarded conspiracy no sane person believes in

>>507423271
Their tribe got bottlenecked in Central Europe but they don’t originate from Central Europe. Khajit in Skyrim = khazar in real life: just following trade routes

>>507423646
It seems like a crazy conspiracy until you see how close Armenians are genetically to Ashkenazi Levites/cohenim

>>507423731
hey can you show me on this map how jews went from asia minor to asia to khazar empire then southern italy and then germany?
when did they start speaking turkic in your fantasy?

>>507422949 (OP)
how do you convert to a religion with a strict racial requirement that also doesn't seek converts?
seems implausible

>>507424074
Phonecians likely traveled the Black Sea. It’s well documented that the khazar elites converted to Judaism. How’d they even know about it? Kind of odd that the Ashkenazi place names in Anatolia are super close to the Taurus mountains. Minoans liked a bull god that looked a lot like moloch and guess who gets accused of worshipping moloch?
You’re just extremely low IQ. It’s your parents fault if you can’t notice pattens

>>507424569
are you saying you noticed a pattern were a Ashkenazi jews lived in pre turkish asia minor then went and become turkic then became khazars. then intermixed with southern italians and then ended up in germany to pick up yiddish
That's what's being implied
If the jews are from pre turkish anatolia then when did they become turkic?

>>507423646
Here's your insane study sir.
They insanely tested thousand year old skeletons found in Palestine for Hebrew DNA.
The results were INSANE!

Did you know this insane fact? The Ashkenazim Khazars (Khazars) aren't even related. Not even close.

>>507424373
By claiming relation to a distant ancestor who doesn't exist.
There are many other examples in histroy. Roman claiming descendent from Troy.
It helps that the religion was basically extinct at that point.

The story goes that the Khazar king wanted his people to join a new religion and he had a choice between the powerful Christians or powerful Muslims.
When the talked to a priest he asked 'Which religion is better? Islam or Judaism?' and the priest answered Judaism.
When he asked the Imam 'which religion is better, Christianity or Judaism?' He answered Judaism. The king then undertook the conversion to Judaism.

Much of their weird blood (ancestor) obsession likely comes from purity spiralling about non-existent ancestry. The obvious examples but also last names being higher than others. Example Cohen = priest class = where their anti-Christ will come from.

>>507425387
>Ashkenazim Khazars

>>507423066
Bullshit.
>>507422949 (OP)
They are polish and eastern european larpers. No one ever calls them on it for some reason. I would maybe believe the brown arab looking ones are actually from the middle east but the ashkenazi ones are clearly not from there.

>>507423873
They're closer to italians and greeks them anything else.

>>507423271
Yiddish is pigeon German. A small amount began speaking it, due to German dominance during the high middle ages, and Khazar being destroyed by Russians would have caused them to flee westward.

>>507425651
ah right I said it twice.

>>507423296
I wonder why red hair is so prevalent in the UK.

>>507425836
https://abc7ny.com/shtreimel-stolen-hasidic-jew-brooklyn-williamsburg/10418934/

>>507426432
>A small amount began speaking it
There were over 10 million yiddish speakers before WW2. including many who lived in eastern europe
>Khazar being destroyed by Russians would have caused them to flee westward.
So you're saying Ashkenazis came from asia minor to khazaria and then went straight from there to germany?
I guarantee you you can't find any historic evidence of that happening
btw Ashkenazis was mostly based in western germany in the middle ages
and jews already lived in those areas during roman times

>>507426654
A redhead made this thread. Should I make another thread so we can talk about DNA / environmental selection fitness and red hair prevalence (45th parallel)?

>>507427415
>There were over 10 million yiddish speakers before WW2

Correct, they had a fuck ton of children. Remember Jews experienced a heavy population bottleneck after the Khazarian kingdom was destroyed.

>So you're saying Ashkenazis came from asia minor to khazaria and then went straight from there to germany?

No, much like the Gypsies they were pushed around by neighbouring countries, kicked out, let back in again. The strain that survived best spoke Yiddish, that is it.
Once their population bounced back the bulk of them were re-concentrated in the Pale settlement within the Russian empire, with smaller groups within western and central Europe.

>>507428969 >>507427415

You can look up the Bottle neck if you like, it's well studied and it's why they are so inbred and suffer way more inbred diseases than any other group.

>>507423109
Shut up poo.

>>507423109
palestinians are semites dumb fuck

>>507428969
>they were pushed around by neighbouring countries
which ones? do you have any evidence of this?
>The strain that survived best spoke Yiddish
jews who lived in germany spoke yiddish and they are the ones who then moved to the pale of settlement
why do you think there are/were jews with german names in pale of settlement?
>Remember Jews experienced a heavy population bottleneck
Azkhanazis experienced a bottlneck in central europe in the middle ages. 100s of years after the khazar empire fell
So your theory is that a turkic speaking people fled to germany
There were already jewish communities in germany before the khazarian empire fell
have you ever checked the dates on your dumb theory?

>>507422949 (OP)
Most of Israelis are sephardics, and ashenkazi mitochondrial dna testing on the matrilineal side indicates 80% european dna.

>>507429040
>By analyzing the proliferation of long nucleotide sequences that are identical in the unrelated individuals in their sample, the researchers determined that a population bottleneck of approximately just 350 Ashkenazi Jewish individuals occurred in central Europe about 700 years ago, followed by an exponentially rapid population increase. The findings suggest that the ancestry of all present-day Ashkenazi Jews can be traced back to this small population.
Khazaria lasted until 900s
jewish bottleneck is in 1300s

>Moreover, by comparing the genomes of Ashkenazi Jews with those of Flemish origin, the researchers found strong evidence that the ancestry of the modern-day Ashkenazi can be traced to a fairly even mixture of European and Middle Eastern descent. Cross-breeding appears to have occurred at approximately the same time as the Ashkenazi bottleneck, suggesting that when Jewish migrants arrived in Europe from the Levant they mixed with the local population.

https://systemsbiology.columbia.edu/news/study-sheds-light-on-ashkenazi-jewish-genome-and-ancestry

>>507430251
yep, they went through dispersion and population loss in the centuries after the loss of their kingdom.

>suggesting that when Jewish migrants arrived in Europe from the Levant they mixed with the local population.

Their theory here is incorrect.

>>507430668
the jewish communities that already existed in germany going back to roman times experienced a bottle neck
>yep, they went through dispersion
they got defeated by russians and then wandered all the way to germany and then magically replaced already existing jewish communities and then just stopped speaking turkic and started speaking german
i would love to see your evidence of this happening

>>507423873
Armenians are far down the list of relatives. Italians, Ukrainians and Turks from Crete are the closest matches

>>507431455
>they got defeated by Russians and then wandered all the way to Germany

Yes correct. You've never heard about the 'Wandering Jew'?
Even look at this. After the fall of Khazaria what was the first place they were expelled from? (100 years later) Within Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews

Why do you think Jews were around in every kingdom? they moved around of course. They weren't tied to the land like ~97% of Europeans were.

>>507432168
>You've never heard about the 'Wandering Jew'?
yeah it has nothing to do with jewish migration
you should look it up yourself
>Even look at this. After the fall of Khazaria what was the first place they were expelled from? (100 years later) Within Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews
Between 965 and 969, Sviatoslav I of Kiev, the ruler of Kievan Rus', along with his allies, conquered the capital, Atil, thus ending Khazaria's independence.
your referring to what expulsion?
Mainz in 1012?
you think they made it to mainz and build up a community their within 50 years?
they stopped speaking turkic and started speaking german within 50 years?
and all this happened and nobody wrote down that a turkic people moved all the war from the steppes to germany ? not a single historic evidence of that migration.
and then ofc in your fantasy they replaced all the jewish communities that already existed
again without any evidence

>>507433011
>ou think they made it to mainz and build up a community their within 50 years?
Yep, thats what they did.
A subset of course, likely merchants to begin with.

>they stopped speaking turkic and started speaking german within 50 years?

What is german a mythical language or something?

>and all this happened and nobody wrote down that a turkic people moved all the war from the steppes to germany ?

why are you surprised, history doesn't accord with your perfect standards, migrations are often recorded much later or reconstructed via cultural shift. Pic related.

You are arguing from incredulity here.

>>507422949 (OP)
Here’s the real redpill.

The Jews were originally Scythians that migrated to Palestine around the time of the Persian conquest. They were deported there. They became the Pharisees, you see Scythian genes (R1a-z93) and some Q (also Turkic gene) in modern Jewish males today. It explain why Jesus was a different jew than the Pharisees. The Romans killed most of them, the refugees fled to Europe as slaves but also to the caucus where they mixed with the locals. Then later down the line they mixed with the khazar Turks. Eventually they all settled in Europe where they took European wives. Then around 1300 they were nearly wiped out and suffered a bottleneck event where there were few breeding pair Jews left; hence why they have a lot of genetic diseases. At the end of the day they hardly descend from the Israelites, they probably have some of their blood but about as much as say Egyptians. They are their own genetic tribe but a mixture.

>>507433592
you're arguing from schizo fantasy
you have 0 evidence of any of what you write
and yeah back in those days migrants didn't just stop speaking a language from one day to the other
if it was the case then yiddish would be filled with turkic words but it isn't
>likely merchants to begin with
no source no evidence. they went from being turkic steppe people to being german speaking merchants on the Rhine in 50 years
amazing

>>507434172
Explain why Ashkenazim have no Hebrew dna.

>>507434172
>turkic steppe people

Strawman argument.

>>507434417
jews lived all over the roman empire and many of them were converts
the core Ashkenazi area in germany is the part of germany that was roman

>>507434656
Khazar empire was on the eurasian steppe
turks originate from the eastern steppe
over around the mongols
so yes they were turkic steppe people

>>507434892
Wait, you are telling me German converts with zero Hebrew DNA migrated all the way into the Pale Settlement(russia) and this wasn't recorded? sounds like a schizo theory to me.

>>507435206
Do steppe people migrate often?

>>507422949 (OP)
"Jew" = Esau's legion of Edomites who massacred the original Judeans and became the anti-Christ Pharisee sect. They're the 13 Illuminati bloodline vampire race who will crown the anti-Christ in the third temple. Jesus Christ is Lord and said "they were liars and murderers from the start" and "of their father the Devil".

>>507435519
no jews who lived in rome moved to germany
then later they moved to the pale of settlement which yes is recorded
Why do you think jews in the pale of settlement spoke yiddish and had german names?
Keep in mind that i'm not saying Ashkenazi has zero hebrew dna. that's your assertion.
But many jews who lived in the roman empire were converts with no hebrew dna.

>>507425387
>>507431539
My guy, not the difference between canaanites and Armenians: the difference between Central European Ashkenazi Jews and Armenians.

>>507435558
there has never been a steppe people who has secretly migrated into western germany
fx it was very much known when Hungarians migrated. they also kept their language

>>507436990
>>507422949 (OP)

>>507422949 (OP)
How did Tarrant convince people he wasn't Jewish?

>>507431539
Yeah this works

>>507422949 (OP)
The Khazars themselves believe this lie.

https://old.bitchute.com/video/H6VM8tOnixga/

>>507437387
>khazars came from the land of edom
so when did they start speaking turkic?

>>507431539

>>507437497

>>507437540
The Khazars aren't Edomites--they're not Semitic at all. Yiddish is a Turkic language with German loanwords.

>>507422949 (OP)
I also find it funny that Christians genuinely believe the chosen people of God was so irrelevant in actual history that then a bunch of Khazars stole their identity and no one even noticed lol

>>507437744
*who was so irrelevant

>>507437568
Noah’s Ark ran aground on Mount Ararat

>>507437744
Christians are God's chosen people. Most of the original Jews are in Spain and Latin America.

>>507437711
>Yiddish is a Turkic language with German loanwords.
no its not
show me any comparison between turkish and yiddish then

>>507423066
Lol I knew a kid in upstate NY who got charged with a Hage crime for stealing one of those hats

>>507437844
>Noah’s Ark ran aground on Mount Ararat
you got dna evidence of that?

so are modern jews turks?

>>507437851
imagine being so irreverent that even Europeans stole your identity lol

>>507438043
yes the modern "jews" are Turks pretending to be some 3rd rate Semitic kingdom

>>507438043
no its a dumb schizo theory

>>507437744
You got scattered into tiny groups. The ones that established themselves along the Silk Road routes grew absurdly wealthy, went on trips to Venice and other trade hubs in Europe. Why is that hard to believe? It fits the profile of the Jews we know today. The rich ones are in the trade hubs of New York, London, Geneva and not necessarily Israel.

>>507438156
it's very strange
i heard that jews were treated very well in the ottoman empire
so the turks must have treated their brothers of other religions well

>>507437957
Yuh

>>507437214
How they did they secretly migrate into Ukraine? (russian empire)

>Hungarians migrated
Sorry you miss understand. In Hitlers 'My Struggle' he talked about Slavs moving into Austria(German people's). Which got me curious if it was recorded as a 'migration' but it was not recorded at all. The Hungarian migration happened centuries before.

>>507438289
>The ones that established themselves along the Silk Road routes grew absurdly wealthy
its amazing that you can just in your mind make up that jews got insanely rich with no evidence
its just a given for you that they are the greatest businessmen of all time
what trade hub is it that you think these turkic jews got rich in?

>>507438043
see >>507425387

>>507438156
If Jews are Turks, why are we Turks from Turkey so poor then? Why do I live in Germany then?

>>507438425
The Armenian genocide was perpetrated by Jews to cover up their genetic origin

>>507438444
no i mean dna evidence

How did anglo invaders convince the world they were American?

>>507438642

>>507438487
idk what the fuck you are even arguing?
Slavs lived in the Austrian Empire

>>507438698
Turk is a broader ethnic group that includes more than people from Turkey
Like the Germanic, which can refer to Germans, or people from England or the Netherlands

>>507438753
From a boat? I thought you were being figurative. Noah’s Ark is on Ararat, literally the border with Armenia and Turkey. See: >>507423731

>>507423109
kikes must really be losing their shit to be this obvious.

>>507438881
>The ones that established themselves along the Silk Road routes grew absurdly wealthy, went on trips to Venice and other trade hubs in Europe. Why is that hard to believe? It fits the profile of the Jews we know today. The rich ones are in the trade hubs of New York, London, Geneva and not necessarily Israel.
all imagined in your mind
with no evidence
does it relate to khazars in any way?

>>507422949 (OP)
it was pretty easy probably.

>>507438989
you believe that noah and every animal in the world got off and spread out from the same place
i would imagine there would be dna evidence of that
just a thought

>>507437150
>the difference between Central European Ashkenazi Jews and Armenians.
Read the chart. That is a Ashkenazi Jew sample. >>507431539

The lowest distances are Ukraine Zhytomyr, Maltese, Turkish Crete followed by Southern Italy.

>>507439054
You act like the Black Sea was some impassable ocean when the fucking Noah’s Ark is on Mt Ararat. There’s Turkic people in China, you know that right?

>>507438944
In the early 20th century the majority of ''''jews'''' were concentrated in the Pale Settlement, modern day Ukraine inside the Russian empire.
As an example, there were only ever ~500,000 Jews in Germany (<1%), while there were meh 6 million+ in Russia (Ukraine, pale settlement)
Those Jews spoke Yiddish.
How did they magically migrate from Germany into Ukraine without it being recorded???

the promised land belongs to the aryans

>>507439293
I'm aware
>You act like the Black Sea was some impassable ocean
where??
the jews got filthy rich on mt ararat? is that the trade hub your referring to?

>>507426432
Khazar was destroyed by other muslim tribes though.

>>507439196
No, but the ark that inspired the Bible/Torah in genesis is literally beached on the border of Armenia and Turkey. What is the actual matter with you, are you okay? Does anyone else in your life talk to you or is it just me?

>>507437497
Read your own chart. This is aligned with the distances I posted. Ashkenazi_Jew is close to Maltese.

>>507439417

the khazars werent jews. their king converted to judaism and khazaria became a haven for all the turkic edomite jews. these edomites mixed with the khazars resulting in the ashkenazi

>>507439434
nah, they lost a big to the Muslims earily on but were destroyed by Proto Russia/Keivian leadership.

>>507439302
>How did they magically migrate from Germany into Ukraine without it being recorded???
It was recorded
yes they moved from germany
they didn't come from the steppes
>The first Jews to visit Polish territory were traders, while permanent settlement began during the Crusades.[29] Travelling along trade routes leading east to Kyiv and Bukhara, Jewish merchants, known as Radhanites, crossed Silesia. One of them, a diplomat and merchant from the Moorish town of Tortosa in Spanish Al-Andalus, known by his Arabic name, Ibrahim ibn Yaqub, was the first chronicler to mention the Polish state ruled by Prince Mieszko I. In the summer of 965 or 966, Jacob made a trade and diplomatic journey from his native Toledo in Muslim Spain to the Holy Roman Empire and then to the Slavic countries.[30] The first actual mention of Jews in Polish chronicles occurs in the 11th century, where it appears that Jews then lived in Gniezno, at that time the capital of the Polish kingdom of the Piast dynasty. Among the first Jews to arrive in Poland in 1097 or 1098 were those banished from Prague.[30] The first permanent Jewish community is mentioned in 1085 by a Jewish scholar Jehuda ha-Kohen in the city of Przemyśl.[31]
>The first extensive Jewish migration from Western Europe to Poland occurred at the time of the First Crusade in 1098. Under Bolesław III (1102–1139), Jews, encouraged by the tolerant regime of this ruler, settled throughout Poland, including over the border in Lithuanian territory as far as Kyiv
there you go

>>507422949 (OP)
It took a lotta rape.

>>507439607
Yeah that’s why I said it works. Zoom out nigga. Ashkenazis are closer to Armenians than Yemeni Jews. That’s kinda crazy, no? Makes no sense, right?

>>507439668
so these turkic jews get rich where?

>>507439733
sorry * lost a bit* not big

They lost out lying territory north of Armenia to muslims. It was the kevian rus that wrecked their home territory.

>>507422949 (OP)
There are three variants though (four if you include the niggers but Israel doesn't and they're goofy beyond belief) and I'm not so sure they are all from Ukraine. Read things like the Babylonian Talmud and tell me their way of life is recent. Their oldest Talmud is all like that. I get that they adopted star of remphan or fire shield in 1300 AD. I get that Jews might not be the same as ancient Jews but the talmudic assholes that Jesus cursed seem very much like them to this day.

>be ashkenazi
>have pale skin
>have blonde/red hair
>have blue/green eyes
>everyone in your family tree is Polish or some shit
>/pol/ calls you "turkik" to cope

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>>507439832
Yemeni Jews are just Yemeni converts.

>>507439864
>/pol/ calls you "turkik" to cope
its christcucks

>>507439858
as you can see >>507423637 the closest Jewish group to the native Palestinians aka Hebrews are Iraqi_Jews, greater than even Syrian_Jews, which funnily enough confirms the Babylonian exile.

>>507439832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ZRlRXr0cg

>>507440091

Do you know anything about the idea that Arabs have that their ruling class is crypto Jews. We have seen it during the Israel war and before but it's hard to say with the US at their back gearing to grind them into mush if they even look at Jews the wrong way. It's an interesting theory though and the lengths they go to with people who really don't like Jews makes the theory interesting.

>>507440091
>Palestinians aka Hebrews
lol. the hebrews werent brownoids. adam and eve and noah and the hebrews were aryans

>>507439733
>>507439852
Yea but they were still a thing until the mongols wrecked their shit and they converted

>>507440540
the accusation i've heard is that the saudis are donmeh which is something entirely different
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6nmeh
idk that it's true at all though

>>507440047
Where did these 'germans' genetically pick up the Turkish nose from?

>>507440732
what turkic nose?
turkic people doesn't have big noses

>>507440047
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sultans_of_the_Ottoman_Empire
All turkish noses.
Including the Jew in the webm

>>507440728

Not just that, I've heard this from Iranians and the like. Don't know how you could ever prove it though since you'd be be crushed into bits from your toes up if you even asked for it. Simply wondering if there's been a family member in premodern time that had a DNA type investigation or historical evidence. Again this is something I've heard from middle eastern (I guess Arabs from Turkey are "European") people I grew up around but they were all assholes to the core. But Arabs and Arab like people seem to think that crypto Jews are their leaders. al-Assad was the exception but he's been replaced by an US approved ISIS leader so that doesn't matter anymore.

>>507422949 (OP)
How did arabic "Native" Palestinians convince themself that they are as such so badly that they got themself to be "genocided" in such a way that the world watches on and effectively shrugs at the suicidal selfdeception?

>>507441487
most sultans had non turkish mothers

>>507422949 (OP)
Incessant gaslighting & lies.
What did you think?

>>507440999
Never met Turks in person have you?

>>507441769

They know that we have grown up with holocaust education. People invaded their land and have a big brother behind them so they can do anything they like.
Have you watched the livestreams that they did from Gaza (the people who used to live in Israel for a few thousand years) and the next day no one died even if you saw hundreds of people dying from missiles and the endless white phosphor. It's a war crime but they pour tons of that stuff for hours upon hours before they start bombing. It's not even useful, they simply enjoy suffering more than they do a win I think

>>507442008
ah yes, the only chose women the the biggest schozzers on the planet. The chosen women.

>>507442044

Our word for Arab was "Turk" in the nineties and early two thousands. Do you have white Turks? I've been told there are white people in Turkey still but never seen one here.

>>507442044
Notice he only picked ones with strong Asiatic admixture.

>>507442439
They are from asia

>>507442044
I have but it has nothing to do with the argument

>>507442839
retard.

Why was it the known glownigger Arthur Koestler who wrote the mainstream book on this "theory"

>>507443148
who should've i have picked to represent khazars?

>>507443952
It must be true. They assassinated him for it.
Sucks to be fake Palestinians in the holy land.

>>507444876
>In 1976, Koestler was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease and in 1979 with terminal leukaemia.[4][5] On 1 March 1983, Koestler and his wife Cynthia died of suicide together at their London home by swallowing lethal quantities of barbiturate-based Tuinal capsules.

>>507445080
Mossad lies. They were precursors to ClintonCides.

>>507445080
They were mad that the Bolsheviks didn’t bury Kazarian history deep enough. Speak against Jewish narrative die like the rest. Moshe.

>>507423637
>>507423873
>>507425387
>>507431539
It's almost as if it was a religion which anyone can adopt and not a race!
And they have thousands of years of mixing!
Woah, crazy that the people currently living in the a place are closely related to PEOPLE WHO PREVIOUSLY LIVED IN THAT PLACE, incredible findings, anons. Absolutely amazing reasoning skills *clap clap*
Your theories don't make any sense at all if you think about them for longer than 2 seconds, but they make you feel good so that's enough for you. :)
>>507430238
Nobody will reply to this because they refuse to imply that jews are anything clse to white.

>>507445610
>In his capacity as vice-president of the Voluntary Euthanasia Society, later renamed Exit, Koestler wrote a pamphlet on suicide, outlining the case both for and against, with a section dealing specifically with how best to do it
even tricked him into being pro suicide just so it would look more believable

>>507445729
>Koestler and Cynthia killed themselves on the evening of 1 March 1983 at their London home, 8 Montpelier Square, with overdoses of the barbiturate Tuinal taken with alcohol.[72] Their bodies were discovered on the morning of 3 March, by which time they had been dead for 36 hours.[73][74] Koestler had stated more than once that he was afraid, not of being dead, but of the process of dying.[75] His suicide was not unexpected among his close friends. Shortly before his suicide, his doctor had discovered a swelling in the groin, which indicated a metastasis of the cancer.
damn mossad even fooled his friends into thinking he was ready to die from being termally sick. but actually they murdered him
for revealing the khazarian secrets

Not a single Israeli in this thread. It hurts them so much to hear the truth. Are they busy putting on suncream?

>>507445741
>It's almost as if it was a religion which anyone can adopt and not a race!

But it isn't. Their religion says not just anyone can convert and be considered Jewish.
Moreover, if it's not a race then you can not be an anti semite, since they are not Semites. Moreover if they are not a race/ethnicity, their ancestor claim to Palestine is wrong and evil.

>And they have thousands of years of mixing!
Of all people they suffer the MOST inbred diseases due to the exact opposite of what you just said.

>Woah, crazy that the people currently living in the a place are closely related to PEOPLE WHO STILL LIVE IN THAT PLACE

Thank you for agreeing with me. The Palestinians are the Israelites, who converted to Christianity.

>>507423271
Because germans are turkic mutts. Benjamin Franklin was right

>>507446694
>But it isn't. Their religion says not just anyone can convert and be considered Jewish.
where does it say that?
>Moreover, if it's not a race then you can not be an anti semite
>Moreover if they are not a race/ethnicity, their ancestor claim to Palestine is wrong and evil
And here you are making their argument
insisting that they are a specific race (khazars).
interestingly this was koestlers argument as to why he thought zionists should adopt the khazar theory. (although it didn't catch on ofc)

>>507447064
We know the Palestinians are directly related to the ancient israelites.
We know Jews in Palestinian are not even related to the ancient isralties. Khazar theory is not needed to say:
>Moreover, if it's not a race then you can not be an anti Semite
>Moreover if they are not a race/ethnicity, their ancestor claim to Palestine is wrong and evil

I could easily take you at your word and say they were Germans that converted. (weird looking Slavic/Turkic '''Germans''' if you ask me but that is beside the point)

>>507446303
>israel get bombed
>shilling halt to a grind
surely just a coheincidence

>>507446694
>Moreover, if it's not a race then you can not be an anti semite, since they are not Semites.
Yes, it's a retarded term.
>Moreover if they are not a race/ethnicity, their ancestor claim to Palestine is wrong and evil.
Yet you offer no alternative.
And they still are related to people there.
>Their religion says not just anyone can convert and be considered Jewish.
You have to specify because as it's a RELIGION, there are different denominations, with different requirements. Broadly speaking, yes anyone can, in fact, convert to judaism.
>>507447311
Where does it say they aren't related? It says they are "less" related.
And there are several denominations of jewish groups who are against the state of Israel. There are regular protests in Israel against it's actions.
>>507447311
>Moreover if they are not a race/ethnicity, their ancestor claim to Palestine is wrong and evil
How so? It's still their culture, and they ARE related. Just not as much. I didn't see "Israeli jew" on your chart tho. So ig it's all speculation?
Should they just live in Germany, since they are mostly German?

>>507447311
>We know Jews in Palestinian are not even related to the ancient isralties
right. because a lot of them were converts in the first place. some from southern italy
and they have around 2000 years of intermixing as well
>Moreover, if it's not a race then you can not be an anti Semite
okay
>Moreover if they are not a race/ethnicity, their ancestor claim to Palestine is wrong and evil
Right. you should stop making the case for that then
>I could easily take you at your word and say they were Germans that converted
i didn't say. I said they were jews living in Rome who moved to germany.
>weird looking Slavic/Turkic '''Germans''' if you ask me but that is beside the point
they look slavic because they moved to slavic countries from germany and mixed with slavic people in those areas.
while speaking yiddish which is german
and having german names
and Ashkenazi jews do not look turkic as i've already shown because turkic people are asian
with slant eyes and small noses

>>507447819
>And they still are related to people there.

WRONG >>507425387

>>507448289
>the german converts aren't related to the others
Still nothing on Israeli jews?
Does this mean the Nazis just killed their own people? And that their racial claims were complete bullshit?
Funny how that was the only thing you decided to reply to.

>>507447819
>Israeli jew
Sephardic Jews is there.
Ashkenazim are so distinct they are not on the list.

>>507448540
>ignored most of the points made
>misintepreted it on purpose
Thanks for displaying your retardation and ill will.

>>507447819


Here. There are no 'Israeli Jews' they are all subgroups/sects. Some stayed in the middle east and they make up a tiny minority of '''jews'''(mainly follow the Kabbalah over the Khazar Talmud) . The Khazars had a conversion event, the Ethiopians (Africans) have a conversion event.
Most Jews are Ashkenazim.

>>507449073
you can see on that the direction of their migration
italy -> germany -> poland -> Pale -> Russia
matches up with what've told you

>>507449073
Okay, last reply.
That chart is consistent with their claims of being displaced. You have proven nothing. And disproves inbreeding, since they are, at the very least, a little related which implies mixing.
And you didn't argue with any of my points.
I don't even care about Israel.

>>507450176
You are a stupid person.

>>507450293
Dunning-Kruger effect in display, right here. Perfect specimen, anon. Ty for the performance.

>>507449925
Come now, you are seeing what you want to see and ignoring the data and not making like to like comparison.

Saudi Arabians (general) are ~0.06
Iraqi's (general) are 0.075 Iraq_Jew = 0.047

Palestinian Christian is 0.024 twice as 'related' as the Iraq_Jew and 4 times as related as a polish Jew.
What the data says is that the general Saudi Arabian population is less genetically distant from the Israelite's than an Italian or inbred Polish Jew.


>>507450521
You are slightly lower then a midwit, maybe 105-9 IQ.

>>507442044
What is a turk? Even the hero of turks, the Greek ataturk failed to give a right answer
Originally they came from central Asian steppes, maybe from the oghuz tribe, but after conquering the east roman empire they intermixed so much very little remained of it, and it's completely normal, once you capture the area and declare it yours, the inhabitants will be given the conquerors name
Anyway, the native anatolian population are the numerous group, which themselves got assraped by lots of other people before turks came
You have Greeks in the western part, some semites in the southern part, Arabs In the south-east, some caucasus mystery meat in the north east
You also have balkan rape babies, all forming a mutt bio mass
Of the original Turkish tribe there's little trace, some still have chinky eyes but they're a rarity, hell, even 200 years later after constantinopolis fall, their Asian genetics was barely noticeable
And I talk about the rulling class, because most of the plebs were of the people they conquered anyway
Ataturk tried to bring secularism but having such diverse people it didn't work in unifying the country, Islam keeps it somehow together because they're still a bunch of 70iq retards

>>507423109
Haha, sure, based centrist!!

>>507450176
But you're jewish, literally. I hope you die.

>>507424373
>a strict racial requirement that also doesn't seek converts?

Explain ethiopian jews

>>507424569
>Phoenicans
Ex-vassals and rape-babies who (literally) emerged from the ashes of the Minoan trade empire destroyed by Santorini's eruption. Phoentic script is just a derivative of minoan-proto-kyrilic script --Minoa has been a contemporary of ancient egypt and deployed several writing systems comparable to hieroglyphics and hieratic script. (...)

In short: there's a reason you aren't taught about them. History is fake and it's written by scum that has survived a natural catastrophe by happenstance and exploited remnants of empires by incorporating them into the fanfiction of their cargocult.

>>507449925
No retard, the groups listed in his image aren't the closest groups to the query that exist. This study grouped all jews and a few palestinians to see who are closer, if you out here a random turk or libyan they'd be closer than the jewish groups.

>>507422949 (OP)
you have to be a -100iq christcuck to believe in the khazar hypothesis which was literally created by jews to end anti semitism

>>507422949 (OP)
They didn't. There are no native kikes in Palestina. German, Polish and Ukrainian kikes run away from Europe and asked for asylum in Palestina. As soon as they did get it it declared a state and Europe approved it.

>>507451090
>you are seeing what you want to see
you're projecting
you believe in something with no evidence

>>507452333
The khazar hypothesis is fact and it increased my antisemitism.
>>507452347
The samaritans are the only native jewish group in palestine.
>>507452252
The phoenician script came from canaanite.

>>507448118
>turkic people are asian
>with slant eyes and small noses
Most retarded thing posted in this thread.

>>507451967
they think turks in turkey look the same as turkic tribes like khazars

>>507452514
The khazars were VERY mixed with west eurasians, that's well known. You're acting like a disingenous retard right now.

>>507452268
their distance in the lower part happen to match up with their migration route
from italy germany and eastward

>>507452635
Because they have more neolithic farmer ancestry. It has nothing to do with israelite DNA. As that anon said you're a retard who only sees what he wants.

>>507452432
>The khazar hypothesis is fact
there are no such things as khazarian jews. khazars were asiatics like the huns, bulgars, avars and turks. dumb ass.

>>507452496
i'll ask you then. Which current turkic ethnic group would look most similar to khazars?

>>507452791
Turks in turkey you disingenous faggot.
>>507452777
And ashkenazis.

>>507452686
a gradient that just happens to follow their known migration pattern

>>507452888
It's a gradient of NEOLITHIC FARMER ANCESTRY. Stop being such a retard, I beg you.

>>507423637
Lost

>>507452852
>Turks in turkey you disingenous faggot.
Khazars was mixed with Greeks?

>>507422949 (OP)
Just a quick question, do you consider Arabs to be native Palestinians?

>>507452432
>The phoenician script came from canaanite.
Mein Neger, a cursory glance at the attested writing systems of the time and the age of the empires deploying them disproves it. The earliest findings of script and writing systems elated to the later kyrilic (and consequently alphabetic) forms is found in Minoa -- but the ex-vassals and rape-babies need you to believe that they are the creators of all the best things, or their origin myth and fragile ego collapses. The "Sea People" canonically brought the script with them -- where from? Minoa.

>>507452967
What about the sinaitic and canaanite scripts? They're closer to phoenicia and predate the sea people invasion.

>>507452929
it increases as they move east
you agree thats what it shows

>>507452944
DO you get off by being a slimy disingenous faggot or do you really think this is how you win arguments? You've done nothing but moan and misinterpret studies here.
Post your own evidence of jews being native go on. Because according to your logic saudi arabs are more israelite than most jews here>>507423637

>>507452945
Only palestinians are native palestinians.

>>507422949 (OP)
Ashkenazi Jews aren't Khazars, Khazars are the descendants of the Turkic invaders into Ukraine during the Mongolian invasion and were known as such to contemporaries you fucking retard, we also know the ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews they're the product of Jewish men mixing with southern Italian women after the Roman conquest of Judea

>>507426654
It's north and cloudy.

>>507453126
do you consider the ones that are brown as shit, speak Arabic as their native language and bow to the pedo prophet to be Palestinians?

>>507453076
my argument is that Ashkenazi jews aren't khazars
>saudi arabs are more israelite than most jews here
well they probably are

>>507453199
Well duh, genetics is more important in determining how indigenous one is, it doesn't matter what god he believes in.

>>507453166
>Turkic invaders into Ukraine during the Mongolian invasion
You're so wrong it hurts.

>>507453223
And you're retarded.

>>507453014
You mean the scripts developing in the outskirts of egyptian hegemony (a trade partner of Minoa)? Doesn't it strike you as odd that the history you're taught exclusively revolves around a completely economically and culturally irrelevant strip of desert?

>>507453318
how did these turkic jews start speaking yiddish?

>>507453283
it's true. pick up a history once in a while, christcuck retard

>>507453283
> According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.[203] In the 2021 study the results showed both European and East Asian paternal haplogroups in the samples: three individuals carried R1a Y-haplogroup, two had C2b, and the rest carried haplogroups G2a, N1a, Q, and R1b, respectively. According to the authors, "The Y-chromosome data are consistent with the results of the craniological study and genome-wide analysis of the same individuals in the sense that they show mixed genetic origins for the early medieval Khazar nobility".[204] Their facial features were of mix of East Asian and European, with East Asian type dominating (70%) in the early Khazars

>>507453428
The khazars were present in ukraien from teh 8th century AD you fucking retard.

>>507433011
>within 50 years
more like 500 years if not longer they travelled through germany francr russia poland spain england

>>507453246
>that are brown as shit

>>507453483
I was wrong about them post dating the Mongol invasion but they aren't related to Ashkenazi Jews at all they're Turkic people while Ashkenazi Jews are Semitic and European with their maternal line being southern Italian Ashkenazi Jews group the closest with southern Italians

>>507453413
The migrated to central europe after the khazar kingdom got destroyed.
>>507453381
It does seem strange now that you mention it, by canaan was at the crossroads of civilizations and were conquered by egyptians so it makes sense that they'd make a more simplified version of the egyptian script.

>>507453600
Really? Check this then.

>>507453488
well for the khazar myth to make sense they have to make it from their destroyed empire into germany and establish their communities within 50 years
and in that time frame they also have to abandone their entire culture and language and adopt a new one
mind you a steppe tribe moving to Rhineland and no one noticed and wrote down
>hey a turkic jewish tribe just moved in and started speaking german

>>507453781
They migrated throughout europe from the east exactly like gypsies.

>>507453669
>The migrated to central europe after the khazar kingdom got destroyed.
When?
do you have any historic source for that?
(ofc you don't)
the khazars moved from the eurasian steppe to the Rhineland?
and they got rid of their own language and started speaking german
in what time frame did that happen in?

>>507422949 (OP)
The better question is how did a native tribe of Hellenized and later Romanized Anatolians fool the world into believing they were the same Turkic steppe warriors who cucked them into Islam (submission) and assimilated them? Boggles the mind desu.

>>507453669
>By comparing the Erfurt genomes with modern and ancient DNA data from many different populations, the researchers were able to peer even further back, to the origins of those scattered European communities. The comparisons suggested the Ashkenazi circa 1350 had a mix of ancestry resembling populations from southern Italy or Sicily today, with components found in modern Eastern Europe and the Middle East mixed in.

https://www.science.org/content/article/meeting-ancestors-history-ashkenazi-jews-revealed-medieval-dna

Ashkenazi Jews aren't Khazars you're more related to Jews than the Khazars

>>507452931
>mountain jew

the swiss?

>>507453696
so they lived in pre turkish anatolia?
then became khazars afterwards

>>507453902
That happened between the 10th-12th centuries AD, there are plenty of documentations surrounding merchant jews from khazarian lands like tmutarakan and how the were migrating towards the west since the mongols invaded.

>>507453853
gypsies didn't quite move so fast
and all across the way people noticed them
yet apparently nobody noticed that khazars migrated from eurasian steppes to germany

>>507453952
Your starting on an stupid premice, you linked a study that analysed the dna of the elite khazars and not the biggest part of them, where they said that they were diverse from the elite.
Then in this study you take a dumb PCA test to show how they're more south european than east asian, which ofcourse makes sense because khazarian jews were 1st millenium anatolians.

>>507453696
Check this then

>>507422949 (OP)
https://ia801002.us.archive.org/12/items/ANONTheGreatJewishMasque1953V.1/ANON-The_Great_Jewish_Masque_1953_v.1.pdf

>>507453994
yes
>>507454114
The gypsies didn't have their kingdom completely razed to the ground by the kievan rus.

>>507454141
Before the turkic migrations anatolia genetically was very similar to southern europe.

>>507453669
>by canaan was at the crossroads of civilizations
Anon, that's delusional. Compare this irrelevant strip of desert to Crete or Cyprus.
>egyptian script
Both Egyptian writing systems, hieratic and hierogylphic script, are closely related to Minoan script. It's virtually impossible for one or the other to develop independantly in later stages due to their trades, and it's virtually impossible for any coastal region of the Mediterrean Sea to remain untouched by Minioan influence specifically, because Crete has been the primary trade hub in anr of the Mediterrean Sea. It's virtually impossible to ship anything to/from Asia Minor, Northern Africa or Southern Europe without passing by Crete.

Mind you, Minoa has also dominated mainland Greece at the time.

>>507453928
Simple
No one cares about them, they could claim they're black, Chinese, Arabs, incas, aboriginals whatever
No one gives a shit, it's like a peasant saying he is a bastard, no one cares
But if a king says that, well that's rather different story

>>507454124
Why are you trying to hide the fact that Italians are the closest relations to Ashkenazi Jews?

>>507454028
you have historical evidence that shows khazars moving to germany in 10th-12th centuries AD?

>>507422949 (OP)
The khazar hypothesis never made much sense to me, there's nothing turkic about ashkenazi jews, genetically, culturally or even phenotypically

>>507454208
I hear you, I'm just not completely convinced. I know that the philistines were a big part minoan but the canaanite script predates any minoan centures to the levant. Unless egypt stole it from minoans but there's no proof of that.

>>507454124
>khazarian jews were 1st millenium anatolians.
when did they become turkic?

>>507454151
>the ass in the lion's skin

immaculate

>>507454251
Do you know how PCA tests work?
>>507454286
The jews were part of khazaria, they weren't all of khazaria. Their migration to western countries wasn't coordinated, that's why they settled in big amounts in ukraine and polish lands on their way to germany.

>>507454200
So they have unexplained Middle Eastern genes and no Anatolian genes, not to mention their closest match on the fixation index are southern Italians who Ashkenazi Jews also share a common mtdna haplogroup in 40% of them, square that with me

Only Jews that have south Italian and Greek DNA are real Jews as they are descendants of Phoenicians who were a semitic civilization with origins in the Levant. Everybody else is a larper convert.

>>507454349
When they went to the caucasian plains and adopted the turkic language. Though it's not confirmed that they spoke khazarian since the kingdom was very multiethnic.

>>507454409
Their middle eastern genes are anatolian.

>The earliest reference to Jewish settlement along the Rhine dates from the year 321 in Cologne, and it is assumed that Jews also lived in Speyer in Late Antiquity. With the collapse of state and church administration in the Migration Period and the decline of the urban Roman lifestyle, it is also assumed that Jewish communities dispersed. Jews resettled in the Rhine area coming from southern France where Roman life had more or less remained intact. Traveling Jewish merchants certainly would have had dependencies in Rhenish towns, even though the first branches are only mentioned in 906 for Mainz, and 960 for Worms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Speyer

>>507423066
What’s the point in them? Is it just to display their ill gotten wealth? They all wear them, so it seems as if they have some “religious” purpose.

>>507454388
>>507454439
How are ashkenazi jews so close to classical jews in terms of behavior?
You really think kikery is a cultural phenomenon?
The whole khazar hypothesis sounds like brownoid cope to me

>>507454246
Plausible. Guess they have that in common with the LARP Gypsies and Vlachs play.

>>507422949 (OP)
>fool
The word you're looking for is "guilt".

>>507454567
Behaviour? Are you stupid?

>>507454520
The problem with the rhineland hypothesis is that it can't explain the massive genetic bottleneck some 700 years ago, or ashkenazi turning up in Poland first in the late middle ages

>>507422949 (OP)
this con has been running for about 60 years now

you really have to level with me on this one /pol/
are you really all so stupid that you don't know how skin color works? melanin, the sun, hemispheres, light exposure, do any of these words mean anything to you?

how did it elude you that slavic peoples who are obviously pale and sickly aren't like the other meds?

>>507454439
"Phoenicians" were actually southern Italians, Greeks and people from the Aegean Sea mixed with local Berbers that adopted the Phoenician culture from a ruling class that was an extreme minority whose genes stopped showing up in the population not long after they established themselves

https://www.science.org/content/article/most-phoenicians-did-not-come-land-canaan-challenging-biblical-assumptions

>>507454596
>LARP Gypsies and Vlachs play
What?

>>507454444
so anatolia -> goes to steppes and become turkic -> sneak into germany without anybody notice

>>507454471
Anatolians aren't Middle Eastern you stupid cunt, Anatolians are Indo-European whose closest relations are Greeks

>>507454718
>"Phoenicians" were actually southern Italians, Greeks

LOL get a load of this blame passing nigger-jew

how bout you shut your lying fuck faced mouth in my presence?

>>507454637
You are implying typical jewish behavior is a cultural rather than a genetic phenomenon

>>507454750
You missed the intermediate easten europe.
>>507454753
Genetically they're middle eastern you imbecile.

>>507454753
>Anatolians are Indo-European
WERE

stop flapping your fat purple nigger-jew lips on my /pol/ fuckface

>>507454778
It's indoctrination. What's your angle here?

>>507454788
No they're not you retard
>>507454772
Don't cry about reality

>>507454788
>intermediate easten europe.
that's west of anatolia you absolute dumb fuck

>>507454678
>The problem with the rhineland hypothesis is that it can't explain the massive genetic bottleneck some 700 years ago
there were both pogroms and the plague in that period.
but also why would khazar theory explain the bottleneck?

>>507454813
Were because they no longer exist you dumb cunt but that doesn't mean they weren't Indo-European

>>507452615
The Khazar samples we have had DNA that looked something like Bashkirs and Siberian tatars so they would have been more East Asian than Crimean Tatars and Turkmens never mind Anatolian Turks or Ashkenazi

>>507454890
If you look at a map then it's north.
>>507454838
Yes they are, kill yourself dumbass.

>>507454788
>You missed the intermediate easten europe.
so did apparently everybody back then
these khazars was very sneaky in their migration
no one noticed

>>507454956
Unfortunately we only have dna of the east asian khazar elite, their civilization were like the huns in which the elite were more eastern than the majority.

>>507454817
Indoctrination (culture) is just part of it. Behavior has a massive genetic component. Jews (mis)behaving the same across eras and civilizations cannot be explained by muh indoctrination alone

>>507454925
>that doesn't mean they weren't Indo-European

indo-european is a language family, not a race

however, hebrew is part of the
>AFRO-asiatic language family
and in this instance ONLY

does a language family become a race

because jews descend from niggers, jews invented the ghetto, and jews have pubes for hair

>>507454342
>canaanite script predates any minoan centures to the levant.
In order for Minoa to touch the Levant it has to pass through the coastal regions, naturally. Have a look at the cultural/religious/economic likeness, to name a few: bull worship, usury, masonry, language, deified royality and universal canon.

Hell, King Minos got cucked by a white bull and has bevome step-father to the Minotaur Asterion -- he has demanded a sacrifice of 6 boys and 6 girls every 6 years (7/7/7 or 9/9/9 depending on source) from mainland Greeks as punishment for the death of one of his sons in a tournament hosted by them. The sacrifices have eventually been stopped by Theseus. (...) Recognize the themes?
>Unless egypt stole it from minoans but there's no proof of that.
It's not a matter of theft. It's virtually impossible for two high civilization to not influence each other.

>>507454982
As I said before you retard they were noticed moving around eastern europe and that was documented by the rus.

>>507455013
Their religion tells them that they're the chosen people and everyone else is an animal so it could be just indoctrination with the normal ones leaving the jewish religion.

>>507454342
>canaanite script predates any minoan

LOL fucking PROVE IT

>>507454917
>pogroms
They're mostly myths, anon. And such as they were, they were never large enough to have significant demographic impact
>plague
This is certainly possible, but I haven't found any corroborating evidence for it
> why would khazar theory explain the bottleneck?
It doesn't. Neither of the hypotheses do

>>507454838
>Don't cry about reality

like you're doing?

gonna prove me wrong?

you didn't even bother to say i was wrong LOL

>>507455025
Yeah but there's no evidence yet of the minoan script passing through egypt. It's an interesting theory but I can't be convinced.

>>507455116
>The Proto-Sinaitic script when found in Canaan, dating to about the 17th century BC and later.[1]

>>507455139
>pogroms
>They're mostly myths

>nobody used to beat the shit out of jews

logic alone tells me this is absurdly false

>>507455056
>they were noticed moving around eastern europe
Where?

>>507454966
This recent study on Indo-European language and ancestry seems to state that Anatolians aren't Middle Eastern at all, where's your study that says they are

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.12.02.626332v1.full

>>507455206
>my proof
>comes from a source
>i'm not willing to cite

ya momma and her fat yenta tiddies, kike

>>507455113
>Their religion tells them that they're the chosen people and everyone else is an animal
Many cultures and religions consider themselves special and outsiders/heathen barbarians. And jewish behavior has remained the same even when their religion changed - see roman and greek descriptions of them which predate talmudic judaism

>>507455139
>It doesn't. Neither of the hypotheses do
well okay. i'm not claiming to know why there was a bottleneck
you said
>The problem with the rhineland hypothesis is that it can't explain the massive genetic bottleneck some 700 years ago
not sure what the problem is

>>507455215
>nobody used to beat the shit out of jews
They were usually prevented by their kike-funded rulers. Even the pogroms during the crusades were never on the level to make a serious demographic dent in jewish populations
Also your pic shows the opposite of what you're arguing, so that's pretty dumb

>>507455275
It's because of their religion which tended to control all aspects of their lives.
>>507455225
Are you really trying to tell me that anatolians weren't middle eastern? Nigger just look at any map.

>>507455409
>the assyrians didn't enslave and scatter to the wind 10 of the 12 tribes of israel
>because kikes controlled them

seriously, just shut the hell up already

>>507455217
I'm not going to spoonfeed you, I'll just point you to where you should look. Check out what happened with the khazarian territories conquered by the kievan rus, what happened to the khazars in these lands and in ukraine until the mongol invasions and especially look at cities liek tmutarakan.

>>507455159
>Yeah but there's no evidence yet of the minoan script passing through egypt.
So you accept a history written by and revolving around a bunch of desert dwellers, based entirely on self-referential religious handwaving compiled in a compendium of attested fanfiction of bastardized and forcefully syncretized/assimilated or since erased myth and culture... but reject civilizational osmosis through trade that has defined the region up until the "Bronze Age" collapse that has spawned the "Sea People"?

>>507455481
anatolia technically is near east

>>507422949 (OP)
>Histories Greaterest Larpers
This is really the best way to approach this problem. It all has to be dismissed just as false or incorrect if anything. Not for some purpose of defeating a larper, but to discover the real thing. And so it begins with the question:
>What are we doing when we do religion, and what is it good for?
It is then clear that no one is doing this. So the jew has to be criticized, not for being a jew, but just for being wrong. This is the only correct answer to the jewish question. They are just wrong.

any other method to solve the jewish question is inadequate.
>they do this and they do that
no not really. There is no they. This is not religion, or tribe, or ethnicity. They are not doing religion. No need to validate it. There is no historical records to demonstrate that any of these abrahamic people ever existed or their prophets. None of it. We have many kings we are sure existed, and there is really only one prophet that we have statues, and records, and which we are certain of. That is good enough actually. That is good.

>>507455481
Your map doesn't show anything because ANATOLIANS NO LONGER EXIST you stupid pasta eating wog cunt but we know their ancestry and it's derived from similar groups to modern Europeans they have no Middle Eastern aka Semitic ancestry

>>507455358
The Rhineland hypothesis posits ashkenazi jews were 'german' jews, but genetic evidence shows there were barely a couple of hundred of them by the time they turned up in Poland, thousands of kilometers east of the Rhine
>>507455481
>It's because of their religion which tended to control all aspects of their lives.
Nonsense. Secular jews behave much the same way

>>507455650
So is the levant but today nobody uses the term near east.
>>507455591
The trade through land routes between mesopotamia and egypt passed through canaan so it was as important as the eastern mediterranean islands, so for me the current historical understanding of how scripts evolved makes sense.

>>507455570
a trading post in crimea is how you get Khazars to germany?

>>507453723
Pools closed, due to Rabbis

>>507455868
It's not in crimea idiot, don't post back here until you're more educated.

>>507455737
Anatolians do exist today, they're called turks but they're mixed. We do know ancient turkish dna, have you ever heard of the Anatolian Neolithic Farmers?

>>507455741
Maybe it's the centuries of selection where only the most psychotic jews remained jewish and didn't convert to christianity or islam or whatever dominant religion they lived around.

>>507455937
a trading post on the Taman Peninsula is how you get Khazars to germany?

>>507456003
>Anatolians do exist today, they're called turks but they're mixed.

they sure are, fren

>>507456057
No more (you)s until you actually read what I recommended.

They're genetically nearly identical to south Italians/Sicilians.

>>507456095
Nice overlap.
>>507456128
Another retard who doesn't understand how PCA tests work.

>>507456123
a black sea trading town with khazar jews in it gets them to the rhineland?

>>507456199
Sorry, enlighten me pl0x

>>507456228
you'd be surprised how far inland you can travel into europe

they can do it today with pretty large container ships, but not the kind that travel the ocean

regardless, in antiquity, you bet your ass
>(((phoencians)))
were sailing up through the Bosporus, into the black sea, up to the danube, and into the heart of bronze age germany

AT LEAST up to where modern vienna is today

>>507422949 (OP)
im confused...does this mean the pool is closed?

>>507456250
PCA tests is based on 2 dimensions or components as they're called. The X and Y dimensions on the graphs are the 1st and 2nd most variable components respectively between all the analysed groups.
More simply put it only shows you the difference betwene groups and is HIGLY dependent on which and how many groups are added, it can NEVER be used to show which groups are identical.

>>507456003
No they don't exist when you mix Anatolian with Greek, Circassian, various Balkan ethnic groups with Turkic people and Arabs you no longer have an Anatolian you stupid cunt just like the offspring of a German and a Korean is neither German nor Korean

>>507456440
But we have a bunch of samples of ancient anatolian DNA and they're all brown middle eastern.

>>507456476
>they're all brown middle eastern.

wrong

>>507456574
That's a language map.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_European_Farmers#Physical_appearance_and_allele_frequency

>>507456476
They're almost the same as modern day Western Europeans but instead of Bell Beaker and Corded Ware they're descended directly from the Yamnaya and have more Caucasus Hunter Gatherer so what the fuck are you talking about

>just count the beans

>>507456655
Oh god you're retarded, ancient anatolians had nothing to do with yamnaya. The kurgan hypothesis said that they were only a tiny part yamnaya and newer studies show that they had 0 yamnaya. They were brown neolithic farmers, that's a fact.

>>507456055
If assimilation were a significant factor, there would be traces of jewish genetics in native populations, but there aren't in most of Europe. All evidence also points to ashkenazi jews being extremely endogamous up until very recently, while starting from a tiny gene pool just 700 years ago. They're not khazars, anon

>>507456647
Anatolians aren't largely descended from the Neolithic farmers you mongoloid which is why they spoke an Indo-European language which was brought to them by the Yamnaya a sister group to the Corded Ware which are both Western Steppe Herders and the paternal ancestors of modern day Western Europeans but the Neolithic farmers aren't Middle Eastern you stupid cunt and Neolithic farmer is one of the main sources of European ancestry as well

>>507455796
>the current historical understanding of how scripts evolved makes sense.
The current "historical understanding" insists that there existed no worthwile writing before the "Sea People" brought Phonecian script to Canaan, where it gradually developed into the alphabets.
Which
>1) omits the origin of the "Sea Peoples" and their script (= Minoan vasselage)
>2) omits the influence of Egyptian script
>3) handwaves the disparity between Levantine/Mesopotamian scripts and the alledged alphabetic roots
Why does one of many(!) places located between several high civilizations hold a greater relevance than
>A) said high civilizations
>B) any other place along the coast or between the high civilizations
If it wasn't for this hamfisted canon and origin myth, Canaan would still be as absolutely irrelevant today as it has been millenia ago.

>>507456647
and?

of hebrew is an
>AFRO-asiatic language
and jews have afros

and we all know they do :)

then what difference does it make that indo-european speakers were ancient white folx, just like you're communicating with me, over the internet, which ws invented by indo-european language speakers, talking to me in an indo-european language?

>>507456797
See >>507456835 you're 100% wrong you retard the Anatolians are Indo-Europeans and spoke an Indo-European language even Plato noticed how the Phrygian language had similarities to Greek I am not referring to the Neoltihic farmers as Anatolians I am referring to the Indo-European groups in Anatolia such as the Phrygian, Hitties etc as Anatolian