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Is anyone here old enough to recall what NYC was like in the 2000s and especially pre 9/11?
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>>507468851 (OP)Utopia. Then Israel happened.
pretty darn comfy
https://youtu.be/r0WEgeQ814w
>>507468984Stop being antisemitic , it was Osama Bin laden or something?
>>507468851 (OP)there was trade offices full of people that was wanking there ....
>>507468851 (OP)I honestly think the rate of PTSD is much higher in New York than the rest of the first world simply because of how traumatic 9/11 was to live through. It's strange how rarely people mention this
>>507468851 (OP)Every one was dreaming to get work at WTC
>>507468851 (OP)Not really. I went once in 99' when i was like 7. Dont remember much. But i remember the twin towers and empire state being pointed out to me.
>>507468851 (OP)WTC was very busy place
Zero crime
Happiness
Genuine positive melting pot
Optimism
>>507468851 (OP)Main source of energy is liquid dinosaur oil
>>507468851 (OP)There was "express elevators" that existed only in WTC and no where else...
>>507469377Agreed. The latent PTSD of New Yorkers (and many in the surrounding region who commute/etc) is probably just as damaging as the litany of health issues first responders/clean up crew at ground zero have faced since. take the most dominant workforce and attitude in the world and turn it on its ass
>>507468851 (OP)I visited a few times between 95 and 2000, The galleries in Soho were good, China town was cool to visit. The MET and MOMA were also class. House parties were good. Beautiful women in the nightclubs but many seemed to be there for the nogs and that put me off them all.
>>507468851 (OP)I never went but around that time Giuliani was huge. He personally turned it into some Disney tourist trap etc from Taxi Driver for example.
>>507468851 (OP)seinfeld is a pretty good time capsule
>>507469377only wagecuck corpos died nobody cares
the PTSD is from the fallout
then prices began to skyrocket till today
a jar of mustard used to cost 3 dollars in NY, then after the past decade it's now 13
all the holders of supplies know they can just choke the goyim at the credit terminal, and paying cash doesn't change the price
now it's an absolute shithole that every med city mogs in fun, you can visit 10 different european cities on the budget NYC demands and see incredibly hot women, normal dining, etc.
it wasn't even that good anyway before 2000, it had some music and the concerts were cheaper, and the food was a lot better, but the living costs were heading this way
the parks used to be much cleaner too, they just let them rot because NYers have become soulless
it's not worth it, go anywhere else
NY really only serves as a checklist if you are summiting mountains or accumulating national park visits now, metropolitan portions suck so bad and I campaign constantly on it here
>>507468851 (OP)Light of the day brings truth on deception of the night
>>507468851 (OP)Lots of gays and faggots. The real queer homo kinds.
>>507469991nah it's from that if you dare talk to a woman now they will call the police on the you and if you complain mr bergstein will instantly fire you and mr shekelstein will increase your rent above 3000 and mr government will increase your property taxes to over 10 grand a year so they can import more spic slaves
I lived in Williamsburg near the bridge when it happened. I enjoyed the time I spent there, it wasnโt a total shithole yet. I miss it sometimes.
>>507468851 (OP)it was between its crime ridden phase of the 90s and the gentrification that happened post 9/11 , so better than it is now is (far left shithole)
>>507468851 (OP)Where is "not jews" and "not jew shills" ?
>>507468851 (OP)It was a good experience. Visited with my family and we went to all the tourist places and ate at nice restaurants and went to broadway shows. Good time, carefree, and impressive. Like no other city I had been to and Iโve been all over the U.S.
>>507470285I feel like you're right for like 3/4 of Millenials and younger, but GenX and older its different. After a day like that NYer's are never quite the same and after a decade forgetaboutit.
>>507469377>5000 deaths in a 10 millions city where every years tons of people come and leavenah
>>507468851 (OP)In most of the post-cold war years, NYC was in industrial decline and was fading as a commercial center due to advances in communication. They have been a liability to the rest of the state and to the federal government because of their population that can't move elsewhere. The early 2000s were just a minor peak time when the organized crime was down and the entertainment industry was up, but that's always very temporary.
>>507469338To rest of us it was slave labor. Never saw so much people who were dead inside, zombies without a soul.
>>507468851 (OP)>Skateboarding>White People
>>507468851 (OP)Yes I lived in the Hudson valley from 1987-2022 visiting NYC often many of my friends in high school had parents or siblings who died in the building that dayโฆlook up the Kirby family
>>507468851 (OP)I visited New York in '03 I wish I had gone a few years earlier so I could have seen the Twin Towers.
I was a kid but I remember the vibe and energy it had. Totally different. White people everywhere, people generally dressed well, no smartphones obviously so people engaged with each other. Even after 9/11 it was more or less like this. 9/11 pushed brown people out to CT, NJ, and PA but day to day life in NYC didnโt seem to change much until 2010s.
I donโt think anyone appreciates how much it was specifically digital technologies that changed daily life a lot. The political events were significant but honestly maybe less significant.
>>507468851 (OP)i've been there in 1998 and it was so dirty ugly and non-white I decided i would have never come back there. i kept my promise.
>>507471843>White people everywheremaybe for ammorigan standards. coming from europe it looked like a nightmare of white replacement
Watch the old teenage mutant ninja turtles movies.
It smelled like piss and the people were rude.
>>507470237I always remember that glowie Bryan Callen on the joe rogan show trying to explain this as "the towers were built out of AIR!" Twas a really hilarious glowie cope sess on that episode of glow rogan if anyone cares to find it
>>507468851 (OP)I was inside the twin towers a couple times in the 90s. it was kino
>>507468851 (OP)I went up the WTC in the 90s. NYC was dangerous in the early 90s
>>507472448This. I got mugged
>>507476303Remember your ears popping on the express elevator
In august it would be hot as hell, and the metro train would have working airconitioners, it was a comfy time.
In the Chinatown they were selling pirated copies of PS2 game for cheap, this was the bet time in my life.
I took a shit on the top floor of WTC One.
I thought that everything was going to be okay before the towers fell. I was 11. Since then it's been constant stress, economic downturns, drug pandemics, virus pandemics, wars, government corruption with the greatest pedophile freaks you've ever seen.
John Titor, said it was going to happen sometime in the 90's.
>>507468851 (OP)bankers dystopia. They should have leveled more of it.
>>507472448It does smell like piss
>>507468851 (OP)I moved to Manhattan in '96 and left in 2007 AMA
>was a block away from the towers when they were hit
>>507468851 (OP)NYC was awesome in the 90s. It was before they cleaned up the city, so squares were still afraid to live there. As a minor, I would buy illegal fireworks in China town, porn in the East Village, drugs in Washington Square Park, and beers/cigarettes in any bodega. No one gave a fuck about checking IDs or anything like that.
>>507478978Did you see the planes hit? What do you say to the noplanes fags
>>507479534planes did hit, whether or not actual people were on those planes is debatable. my ex wife's boss told her he watched jumpers fall to their death from his penthouse which was near the towers.
>was a perverted old jew, whoda guessedother anomalies like the feds finding intact passports of the alleged terrorists also fuels conspiracies that it was all staged.
ill tell you now though, I consider myself lucky to have got the fuck out of there ASAP because a ton of people developed lung cancer from the asbestos everywhere in those dust clouds.
>>507479920I knew someone on one of the planes. As you say, who knows if he made on the plane but he was declared dead and never made it home
>>507468851 (OP)Its been a shithole since this mans day
>>507480254call me paranoid but a good % of everything on the internet is fake as fuck, possibly including your claim.
if real, sorry for the loss of your pal but I'm leaning towards you being a bot / AI even this long after the attack. glowniggers will never let the truth move forward on this because it directly implicates the us government in murdering its own people to stage unjust wars.
>>507480495It was a shithole during his day too. He got robbed of his suits his jewish wife bought him. Thankfully he left that bitch there when he moved back to his aunt's home.
>>507468851 (OP)i knew a kike asshole that was visiting in the mid 90s and he was smoking a joint walking down the street and cops stopped him took his weed and said they would arrest his ass if they saw him again. typical kike, he was pissed how dare these cops harass me but do stupid shit, win stupid prizes kike. it was probably a really nice place other than all the jews, spics, and niggers
>>507468851 (OP)Yeah, me, op of
>>507469216It was safe, though somewhat overly Disneyfied due to Giuliani.
I remember the old Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium, long gone restaurants, movie theaters, or other venues, like the Roxy, or old Chinatown fair (where you could play Tic-Tac-Toe against a chicken), the XS mega arcade in Times Square, off the top of my head.
>>507469377I think the term PTSD is overused, but it was a traumatic day, especially to those who lost or nearly lost loved ones, and the weeks that followed were pretty shit too.
I hesitate to powerlevel, but my father, for example, actually got people jobs at the WTC.
Whole city reeked of smoke and ash, and burnt flesh for days, fighters buzzing overhead constantly, buildings being evacuated because of fake bomb threads.
>>507480520They were bibi's wars.the Israel lobby led 18 year olds to fight sand niggers.
>>507480520The US government murdered him you kiked asshole. Go fuck yourself you niggerjew self righteous piece of cocksucking shit. I hope you get mesothelioma and die
Donโt talk to me like Iโm a jabbed propagandised normie or I will fuck you up
>>507481028You are a normie though. You don't know shit about what's going on, but you will learn.
>>507468851 (OP)Full of jews and crime. It's basically the same.
NYC was a shithole back then. It was held together with a police force with more funding than the entirety of the UK at the time. You couldn't drive 2 blocks without seeing a cop car.
When the power went out it immediately descended into looting and chaos by the usual suspects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003
GTA 4 actually captured the vibe of post 9/11 NYC very well
>>507481235Mate you are a smug fucking piece of shit lying demon. Where the fuck do you think you are? Eat shit and die
>>507481016>Yeah, me, op of >>507469216 Relevant part:
>>>Westerners have gotten way too comfortable cheering for this side or that side in wars that donโt involve them because they have a false sense of security from imagining that theyโre exempt from war somehow. Somehow I think when Redditors and 4channers see tanks roll through their streets they will shut the fuck up and stop playing tough guy Nazi/Hamas online.>>It would be cathartic to see that shatte>That happened to a great extent on 9/11, which I guess a lot of 4channers & ledditors are too young to remember, especially the way people who lived in NYC at the time, like me, do.
>>507481016I don't have PTSD from watching it live on TV. But I had a specific trauma about it that never left me. The US is a big nation, and we have an army, navy, and airforce, they would never let this happen. Okay maybe not trauma but a wake up call
>>507480620You were never in NYC. You are a liar
>>507481275>When the power went out it immediately descended into looting and chaos by the usual suspects.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003Completely false.
I was in NYC for this too, and it really was a nothingburger, besides having no airconditioning or running water for a several of the hottest days of the year.
Everyone assumed it was going to be like '77 all over again, but it wasn't.
>>507481584> we have an army, navy, and airforce, they would never let this happenBro they did it
Yeah it was kinda mid. My reaction to 9/11 was 'they had it coming'
I remember hearing NYC was very ghetto and dangerous back then but i was a kid
>>507468851 (OP)This country used to have a lot less brown people in it. Then, we put people in airports to check for brown people to keep them out. Then we got more brown brown people, anyway. Wonder how many tax dollars that was; who ever wrote that shit into law owes us all a lot of fucking money. Good thing I've had sex with the entire Bush family or I'd be real pissed.
>>507468851 (OP)i was there in 2000 for about a week, extremely urbanized and posh from my 3rdie pov
Pre 9/11 was essentially the 90s which was one of the greatest decades
>>507470115>only wagecuck corpos died nobody caresGo walk around the city and look at firehouses. Usually they have plaques commemorating dead firefighters.
Most, especially in downtown Manhattan, have conspicuous clusters on or around dated 9/11, with backdated additions for those who died from WTC illnesses.
I knew people who went to Stuyvesant HS (right near GZ), and I often wonder if some of them will develop some WTC-related illness years from now.
>>507468851 (OP)There was this brief, shocking period when the city was pretty clean, Times Square was overblown but no more porn theaters and no homeless stabbing tourists. Cops arrested criminals and the city mostly functioned.
In the late '90s our main office was on Manhattan and the bosses would throw fantastic company parties.
Then the world fell apart.
>>507481735I was just explaining what went through my mind at the time. My theories of it now are very different.
It was like ten foot wall of glass exploding into a thousand pieces
>>507470246Don't forget tunnel jews and niggers and niggerfaggots.
>>507481584Makes sense, especially since in real time, no one knew how many planes were going to be involved, how many targets would be hit, etc.
>>507482228I can't tell how much of it is nostalgia, but I really do miss it.
>>507468851 (OP)I have always wanted to visit the towers but maybe it's just this post-9/11 mysterious aura. There is something so amazing about seeing them in (older) media, like visiting an alternative world.
I still find 9/11 the craziest and most unbelievable event in modern times. Some 20-somethings from the middle-east succeeded in hijacking commercial airplanes, they crashed them into the most important American buildings, people had to jump out of the buildings, the twin towers collapsed in less than 90 minutes, there was a huge dust cloud all over NYC, the people of flight 93 decided to storm the cockpit after hearing from their relatives that the aim is to fly them into buildings, billions of people worldwide saw thousands of people die that day and basically all of America was scared for those hours (not knowing what was going to happen).
It changed our lives forever. I feel like 9/11 was memory-holed, like a bit forgotten.
I wish it never happened at all
>>507483239>I have always wanted to visit the towers but maybe it's just this post-9/11 mysterious aura. There is something so amazing about seeing them in (older) media, like visiting an alternative world.Ironically, most people from NYC never visited them, except for business.
I only went a couple of times on school trips or with my parents for some reason or another.
Never went to the observation decks.
Don't really care either, given how much of the city I've seen on foot.
>>507484128>except for businessOnly exception was perhaps hosting visiting family or friends who wanted to see it, and also the tragically doomed Windows on the World restaurant, of which many suspect the "falling man" to have been an employee.
>>507484437>Windows on the World restaurantThis was a big attraction, btw, and I vaguely remember promotions for it on the radio/tv.
>>507481016>I hesitate to powerlevel, but my father, for example, actually got people jobs at the WTC.He still feels guilt about this to this day.
>>507482529Fair enough. The people who woke up after 9/11 are the ones who did not get jabbed. In that way. Iโm thankful it happened even though my friend died that day
>>507483239> Some 20-somethings from the middle-east succeeded in hijacking commercial airplanesNo
For fucks sake
>>507484128>Ironically, most people from NYC never visited them, except for business.I kind of thought that when seeing documentaries about pre-9/11 NYC. It felt like some buildings that are very prominent but there is no real reason to visit as a native New Yorker, just two very tall office buildings with observation decks overseeing the rest of Manhattan.
>>507484437Some people claim he was the brother of that Black guy from the Village People.
>>507468851 (OP)80's it was bad and common at a red light that a homeless man would "wash" your windshield with a bucket of his own urine
90's was ok I guess. When you are a kid you are ignorant to some things though so who knows. Going to public school in Brooklyn and Queens was not good. I learned about racism in the 1st grade when every spic and nigger called me a white rat. You survived by forming racial alliances with other whites. I never been to prison but I imagine it is similiar. It's not like the Spider-man movies where you have a diverse happy safe school where everyone gets along. You are interacting with kids whose parents drilled it into their heads that whites are evil. The teachers do nothing even when a spic kid hit me with a brick.
I remember on 9/11 shitposting on Something Awful about the WTC as I could see it smoking from my window. My sister worked in midtown and had to walk home. She said a Muslim cab driver offered to drive her home for $200. Noticing a pattern here?
After 9/11 transplants made it unbearable. Every "true new yorker" was from Wisconsin or Minnesota forcing the bacon egg and cheese and chopped cheese memes. These were not a big deal in the 80's and 90's this was forced bs. NY kids drank pic related and ate hot popcorn for breakfast every day.
Now the city feels like purgatory. I have no idea why anyone would want to come here. It feels very "dawn before the collapse here". We are over taxed up the ass. What happened to all that money we were supposed to save from taxes on legalizing marijuana? We are about to elect either a rapist or communist Muslim because this city would rather collapse than vote red. I hate this place but I have no where else to go. Everyone I know is here. Don't come here. We are not full and the reason is people are leaving in record amounts. Don't be a bag holder and move here right before the collapse
>>507469377>I honestly think the rate of PTSD is much higher in New York than the rest of the first world simply because of how traumatic 9/11 was to live through. It's strange how rarely people mention thisI lived through it. It never impacted me honestly but I didn't lost anyone and I am kinda a sociopath. A couple days later my math teacher broke down crying in class and said "she can't do this anymore" and left the class and we never saw her again and we were told it was due to 9/11 stress
>>507468851 (OP)Go read John Rockerโs infamous rant against New York City in 1999. It doesnโt like there was much of a difference.
>>507486791Imagine having to take the 7 train looking like you're Beirut next to some kid with purple hair, next to some queer with AIDS, right next to some dude who got out of jail for the fourth time, right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing.
The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners," Rocker said in the Sports Illustrated interview. "You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country?
Nowhere else in the country do people spit at you, throw bottles at you, throw quarters at you, throw batteries at you and say, โHey, I did your mother last nightโshe's a whore.โ I talked about what degenerates they were and they proved me right
>>507486791It's gotten worse since then.
NYC is the perfect example why diversity does not work ironically enough. We are called a melting pot but are we? Drive around queens and within 20 minutes you can pass buy segregated all Asian areas then all spic areas then all Muslim areas and jewish areas and these areas are further segregated based on country (Chinese, Korean, Filipino etc). These people are not integrating and only want to live with themselves. White people are the only ones forced and that is if these corrupt landlords let them live there.
>>507487118NGL I did throw a battery at Chipper Jones once
>>507468851 (OP)NYC was a unimaginable shithole in the "good old days" nowadays this city is like utopia in comparison
>>507487176>These people are not integrating and only want to live with themselves.That's kind of a blessing. Makes them easier to remove. Don't even have to move them into ethnic ghettos, because they've already done it on their own accord.
>>507487233kek
>>507487418I wasn't alive when it was really bad but it's pretty bad now. I hear gunshots at least once a week. The trains can be pretty bad if a homeless nigger is on and decides he wants to rant about how he wants to kill all white people. If we ever have a collapse where the NYPD disband there will be white ethnic cleansing to the level where it would make South African niggers blush
>>507486791NYC always seemed to me exactly like Simpsons episode "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson". They portrayed it well.
>>507488065I feel the opposite. I wish the muslim carts sold exotic crab juice but it's always boring soda
>>507487118>Nowhere else in the countryPhilly and Boston.
>>507489163Chicago too. Denver is getting there
>>507487937It's not even 1% as bad as it used to be
>>507489436Based on the stories my dad told me about the 70's I would say we are 50% there. If Mamdani wins the mayoral election we will 100% be there
>>507481275There was no looting anywhere during the 2003 blackout nigga, I was in Toronto no looting happend here.
>>507490606Toronto was whiter back then retard
>>507468851 (OP)I was only in NYC pre-9/11 once when I was young. The only thing I remember is some retard yelling "ISN'T THIS GREAT PEOPLE I LOVE NEW YORK" and running into traffic, almost getting hit by a car.
>>507489776Who the fuck would vote for a guy named mamdani?
>>507493031When I have to drive into Manhattan and I pass by touristy areas I scream out of my car "HEY WATCH IT I'M DRIVING HERE" just to give tourists that fake NY stereotype experience they want
>>507493208We are over 50% non white so its white guy vs brown guy that is promising ridiculous amounts of gibsmedat
>>507487118>>507487937>omg the trains are so dangerous and scary in New York, AHH I'M GOING INSANE, SAVE ME NIGGERMAN Meanwhile the trains ...
Yes, economy wise it was great, however, racial tensions were extremely high since rodney king riots, 100x worse then after charlottesville and george floyd. In addition to this the domestic terrorism attacks.
Then 9/11 happened and the whole country unified, I've never seen this much coexistence before for collective hatred towards the middle east. The nationalism was as great as probably in the 1930s, every football game and baseball game absolutely no one sat down during the national anthem, from the mexican family who brought like 20 kids to the quiet asian family who just normally sat and watched, the nationalism and pride of America was never this glorified. Ofc it was shit for anyone that looked like an arab or indian.
>>507487937>we ever have a collapse where the NYPD disband there will be white ethnic cleansing to the level where it would make South African niggers blushProbably Hasidic Jews with the Italian and Albanian mafia will clean up the browns if that happened.
>>507469770There's nothing stopping you or anyone else from attempting to harvest the power of lightning. The problem is that it's not really viable. You can't find a good way to do it without losing most of the energy to light and heat. Because that's where most of the energy in a lightning bolt goes. Light and heat. Waste.
mostly slums filled with poor people who pay $3000 a month to live in a rat infested hellhole and have no idea how much better life is outside their containment zone
>>507494889It's a big city. Guarantee if you visited more places you'd find somewhere you'd like.
>>507493378Ah, the numbas. As they say demographics is destiny. I want to see what happens in 2028 when they try to run the aoc spic bitch for president.
>>507468851 (OP)the mid 90's to 2000 were a pretty decent time to be in nyc. rudy had cleaned up a lot of the crime and was working on making NYC not look like a giant trash heap
>>507486363go upstate friend, it does get better
>>507493853>a fake video made for clout is the normThe average IQ of this site gets less and less each day
NY is the only place in the US I wanna visit someday. Does it still have some of that 90s vibe left from back then? I'm also interested in just walking around checking out really old skyscrapers with its lobbies. Maybe take a walk around that ex-German district to see if I can find something historic there.
>>507468851 (OP)It was nice and low crime until 70's and 80's because blacks came up from the south and ruined it. Giuliani turned it into Disney land and it's peak was probably in '99.
9/11 united everyone for a few years, but the city was increasingly becoming brown. Stop-and-frisk was implemented to keep blacks/hispanics from ruining the city again and was successful, but "muh racism" did away with that.
It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be, but you still couldn't pay me to ride the subway.
>>507495087and how much does rent cost there
>>507496477What do you consider to be that "90's vibe"? If you want to feel old NYC go to Brooklyn and hang out under the bridge. That area is the only part of NYC that is like the 1800's NYC and its why they film shows and movies there when they need to shoot a time piece about NYC. Every tourist that comes here I tell them in one or two days the best thing you can do is start at times square then walk on the west side by the water and the intrepid museum then head south till you hit the Vessel then cut back in go to the Empire State Building then head south till you hit the financial district then walk around there, the WTC, take the ferry to Staten Island to get nice pictures then take it back then walk over the Brooklyn Bridge then hang around that area of Brooklyn. If you have one or two days this is the best path you can do as a tourist
>>507496477the dream is dead
you'll be surrounded by south americans blasting spanish songs and the buildings look like soulless corpo slop
theres homeless and it smells like shit
it's fucking horrible
>>507497132Rent cost much because there is demand. There is a demand for a reason. And it's not because people are suckers who want to be parted with their money.
The Jews never left, that should tell you being there is worthwhile. Jews won't endure a bad deal. Follow the money.
>>507497369Honestly its the pajeets that really upset me. The last 10 years they really blown up and they are everywhere now
>>507497394There are tons of apartments and commercial space that is abandoned because Jews rather let it rot until they find a goyim willing to pay the high rent then lower the rent
>>507497795it's depressing as fuck
why does every city have to be complete trash now? even the pizza isnt as great and im sure those food stands are using pigeon meat
>>507497940Because they are run by corrupt pieces of shit whose main concern is making sure they get reelected. When we had the migrant crisis the nigger mayor just blindly accepted them and it has cost us ~8 billion dollars to deal with it and they don't give a fuck. If the migrants never came we never would have needed congestion pricing. They are just loose with the purse strings and spending this city really need a fiscal Nazi to get it back on track but that will never happen.
>>507498305I hope you don't think the migrant crisis is over?
They literally put them in homes/apartments that are paid for for the next year or two.
They spread them out but you're still paying for them right now
My cousins and I would buy fireworks and shurikens and swords and shit from Chinatown, we were maybe 10-13 years old. Shit was exceptionally fun back then.
>>507468851 (OP)I visited NYC once. It was July 4, 2001. The streets were packed with people. Literally packed. You couldnโt walk from one side to another. Suffocating. Not for me. I went back to my hotel room.
>>507468851 (OP)>>507468984Dirty and scummy
It used to be full of buskers spraying down windows with water and newspaper cleaners at tons of corners and little porno theaters / peep shows even in Times Square
>>507476761Same, used to go on school trips, father worked there unitl 3 or so years before 9/11 and family also worked there as a nurse during.
Was there only twice after 9/11, to celebrate a family business with diner at Tavern on the Green and to help said nurse move out and back home for retirement
>>507486363>80's it was bad and common at a red light that a homeless man would "wash" your windshieldFunny how I didn't even scroll down before remembering the window people, would almost make sense as urea is close to ammonia
>>507498522Oh yea I am aware that is 8 billion so far. So many kikes that have empty office space and apartments are renting out to the city to house these migrants. They don't want them gone. It's become a business now.
>>507498323Also avoid some of the tourist traps. China Town is nice to walk through and there are nice places to eat but do not waste your time in Little Italy that place is a shithole. I mentioned the vessel before it's nice to look at but I wouldn't go inside. Next to the vessel is the entrance to an abandoned above ground train line that they converted to a pedestrian walkway that is really cool. You can actually look into the apartments of rich Jews and see how they live
>>507498678We used to eat dumplings and then go to the China Town fair and play fighting arcade games. I beat a puerto rican kid in X-Men vs Street Fighter and he pulled a knife on me and said "i'll see you outside"
>>507481016I was in high school that day, and kids just used it as an excuse to skip classes and go home. They pretended to be concerned that "We could be next!" Yeah right. Here's the list of Mossad targets: The Pentagon, The White House, The Twin Towers, a random ass high school in PA that's 80% spic with an average SAT score of 800. Even in the moment, I laughed at how transparently they were using it to skip school.
>>507499323>a random ass high school in PA that's 80% spic with an average SAT score of 800Hazleton?
>>507499935Allentown. I remember when Hazelton was just the butt of inbreading jokes.
>>507500091Hazleton is a tragic story and an example of how this country is dying. Made me feel like I was walking through a city in Fallout when I went there. I lost my virginity in that shitty town
>>507496477>just walking around checking out really old skyscrapersThat's one of the more interesting aspects of NYC architecture.
There's no other city on earth with as many skyscrapers that aren't just boring steel/concrete/glass boxes.
>>507500943Forgot Municipal Building pic related.
>>507469080>march>nyc>snowfake and gay
>>507501055There is only one thing I like about this city and this was old winters where we would get blizzard all day. It was so comfy to bar hop in a blizzard here. Years ago I was in a rooftop lounge that had an interior all glass windows looking outside with fireplaces inside I could see a blizzard outside and all the adjacent buildings and lights it was the most at peace I ever been. The issue is we don't get blizzards anymore I noticed.
>>507501012View from Chambers St.
>>507468851 (OP)it's hard to describe how fucking normal the world was before 9/11 everything was just... normal
>>507502157The world was always shit you were just too young to understand that.
>>507468851 (OP)Old fag here. Yeah, totally do OP. There were these two huge towers, and I mean fuckihg huge they dominated the skyline, right at the business end of Manhattan. You couldn't miss them.
>>507469944I just want you to know ahead of time that I'm hiding your bottom of the barrel schizo horseshit
>>507504418I am in my 30's lived here all my life and never been to them. I have been inside the new one but never the old ones.
>>507472140Maybe if you only saw Times Square. The rest of Manhattan was 99% white.
Nothing really happened to NYC that didnโt happen to every Western city. Digital information technologies ruined human-to-human interaction, social lives, and work while the city got flooded with brown third worlders and materialistic liberal transplants.
The effects of 9/11 on New Yorkers are overstated. Everyone remembers it. Most werenโt remotely traumatized by it or anything like that. Thatโs pseudo-Freudian bullshit.
>>507468851 (OP)I went to NYC when I was a small child... I think before 2008? It was alright, I did tourist stuff with my family. All the walking made me exhausted
>>507505434Most people use 9/11 as the turning point of society which is bullshit because the internet becoming mainstream and the rise of social media is the actual cause which happened shortly after
>>507493877A big eye-opener for me was the fact that the 90s weren't a great era of racial unity, but had the worst racial tensions since the 60s. If anything, 9/11 united most races because of how scared everyone was and the fact that everyone was focused on the Middle East and Muslims. The reawakening of racial tensions in the early 2010s was just whites and blacks getting back to unfinished business they left behind on 9/11 once the aftermath of the attacks finally started to die down.
While COL has always been an issue, in the 90's and 2000's for $5 you could keep yourself occupied all day in places like Chinatown. Now that is not the case. Slices of pizza are starting to normalize at $3-$5. When I was a kid they were $1.50 max
>>507468851 (OP)The Juliania/Trump era (mid 90's to 2000) was the only time New York hasn't been a degenerate shit hole
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Reminder the post-9/11 2000s were a corporate zogged zionist wet dream. It was the time of Middle East wars for Israel, financial crises, "made in China" outsourcing, neoliberalism/neocons, SUVs, blingshit pop wigger music like 50 Cent, "reality TV" degeneracy, the "Walmart/McDonalds" dynamic, chemtrails, ProTools mallcore buttrock, American Idol, women getting logos tattooed on their asses, etc.
Woke up early to watch Digimon before school. I ended up watching nonstop emergency stream of both towers falling down. There was a plane collision, but even back then it was clear that the towers fell from controlled demolition, not the plane crash itself. Was pretty cool, tho I missed the new Digimon episode and this event made me go into conspiracy shit from early age.
>>507506976Yes but Bush's failure is what led to wokeshit. Libs who watched the Daily Show became smug and were fried on dopamine from the right's losing streak (until Trump). They then became Tumblr trannies in Obama's second term.
When they mock MAGA they still think they're mocking "Walmart Jesus" era Reps, "le Faux News", Iraq War supporters, Young Earth creationists.
>>507508523A Digimon fan? Hell yeah. There wasn't a new episode airing the day of 9/11 but Fox Kids started airing Digimon Season 3 like ten days before the attacks went down.
>>507508912In Bulgaria we broadcast stuff in different hours than you to match the schedules. We have the same shows, back when I was a kid the only difference was that we were always few seasons behind, probably because of copyright shit.Yu-gi-Oh,Digimon,Pokemon, Shaman King etc etc
Cartoon Network and FoxKids were the bomb, that's how I learned English before grade 1, because none of the shows had subtitles or was dubbed so you are kinda forced to learn the language.
>>507468851 (OP)NYC has always been a shithole.
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A dump, always has been.
>>507508857That is true, if 9/11 never happened I do think the 2000s would've continued to see white/black racial relations getting more strained, but I doubt we would've seen woke stuff start early in the 2000s or anything like that.
Liberals in the 2000s and 2010s got way too cocky I feel, the majority I believe didn't really like their brand of liberalism and Obama wasn't as popular as they thought. Bush got two terms and Obama only won because of the financial crisis, and the Tea Party movement popped right after he won. Obama could've very easily been beaten in 2012, had the Republicans put up anyone who actually good instead of Romney, Ron Paul would've annihilated Obama. Then Trump came in 2016 and obliterated Clinton and the Democrats, majority of Americans didn't really like the smug liberal type that was prevalent around the time.
>>507508523The entire day in NYC after 9/11 there was nothing but news playing 24 hours it was annoying. I actually woke up to quiet video of one of the towers burning and had no idea what the fuck was going on.
We went through a retard cycle where anytime a channel played a movie like Independence Day or anything with building destruction in it the media would make a big deal about it and force the channels to cancel it for a couple of months.
Fun fact 2 days after 9/11 there was an episode of the show Power Rangers Time Force that dealt with a terrorist character giving a speech after attacking a city and they had to hastily edit it so they just played the theme song over his speech and it is incredibly awkward watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM0kfx5T-r8
>>507509309I just now realized you have a Bulgarian flag anon
>>507468851 (OP)I grew up in 2000s NYC. It was much more white, less woke/hipster and more professional, cleaner, but also more dangerous and less economically developed in some places. Going in to manhattan was always was exciting when I was younger. I havenโt felt that sort of excitement in a long time
>>507510337>2000s NYC>less woke/hipster With all due respect you have no idea what you are talking about. The hipster menace was at its strongest from like 2002-2010
>>507510252A lot of shows like that got censored or re-edited because of 9/11
>>507510252Nice catch. There was a hippie pop group from the 1990's that released an album before the attacks that had their number 11 song named September, their name was kinda weird as well, anyone remember? Lyrics were sus as well.
>>507510252>>507510760The Lone Gunman pilot episode literally featured a false flag attack involving crashing planes into the WTC.
I spent a lot of my childhood in Manhattan in the 90s. It was epic. Hailing a cab felt like a superpower. There were a lot of hole in the wall skate shops that were full of the most authentic street rats youโd ever see. Iโm talking the grimiest, greasy haired, dirty fingered, motherfuckers. Their clothes were always ripped to fuck. Think Kurt Cobain on steroids.
There were always black dudes carrying huge trash bags full of knockoff sunglasses and watchesโrolex, oakley, etc. They were ten or 12 bucks. Sometimes 30.
I witnessed homeless guys jerking off on the subway floor when I was 6 years old. Youโd see black kids huddled together smoking cigars or fucking off in alleyways. And the most beautiful women you can imagine near Park Ave. I spent a lot of time in KB Toys, not even buying shit, just drooling over insanely expensive action figures.
Everything felt huge, but I was also under five feet for my entire experience there. The first time I visited the trade centers, I had a very bad experience in the lobby.
I canโt say it felt like a safe city, but it was always exciting to be there. I saw the Lion King theatrical release there, and the stage play on broadway, as well as Phantom of the Opera.
I miss being a little kid, goddamn. Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>507512642The Simpsons (of course) had an episode predicting it in 1996 of it as well. https://nypost.com/2021/11/18/predicting-9-11-an-insane-coincidence-simpsons-showrunner/
>>507512642https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpD9aO-61_4
Here is the song, research the group and their album featuring this song. Total kino. They knew all along.
>>507512642>>507512954The WTC had multiple attempted attacks on it prior to 9/11 and one successful bombing in the 90's and was seen as the symbol of American capitalism so they didn't predict anything just went with what was happening at the time
>>507512817 So basically NYC was always a shithole.
>>507468851 (OP)1993 with Jap HD technology.
>>507513352The 9/11 symbolism with the twin towers showed clearly shows it's not just a 'fluke'. I highly doubt it since they have a pretty good record of having inside info way before happening.
>>507513352 I could be wrong but in terms of actual terrorist plots the '93 bombing was the only major terrorist attack that happened to the Towers aside from 9/11 of course. There were a few fires and one bank robbery in 1998 but those aren't terrorist attacks.
>>507513505Forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4lDU-QLUY
>>507513384Yes, it was largely shit, but the bright spots were very, very bright.
>>507483239this operation was too smooth and too successful to be planned by "20 year old something middle easterners". yes, they executed it, but it was just a part of the plan.
but i agree with you ,theres this mysterious vibe going around twin towers which are completely vanished in a matter of day. and not gonna lie - old photos always remind me of something warm, nostalgic, comfy. god damn do they knew how to make photos. this sunset/sunrise with low-res quality and nice vibrant warm colors.
>>507468851 (OP)how about the 80s?
it was kinda rough.
>>507513606check the song.
>Out of the Loop is the debut album by American synthpop duo I Am the World Trade Center, released on July 17, 2001. Track 11. "September" 3:31
>>507513588What are you referring to?
>>507513606There were other attempts like the Bojinka plot. The WTC was always seen as a valid target and there were many attempts to try to take it down
>>507514090The cover of the comic book
>>507468851 (OP)Feral niggers on crack and heroine violently attacking white population
>>507514288What comic book? Are you referring to the simpsons episode? That's just a coincidence. The issue with this schizo theory is that there is no reason for the powers to be to reference this and just this apparently and no other significant attacks
>>507514304That's literally just every American city after 1965 anon
>>507469338TFW taking a picture when then building was built and the floors weren't leased or renovated yet.
In short KYS
>>507469944Empire state building has express elevators, others I am sure as well.
>>507514650What about the song and name of the group that I posted? Again a coincidence? )
>>507468851 (OP)I find it amusing that the US from 20th century American movies don't exist anymore and what is left of them quickly decays while the rest of the world is quickly developing.
>>507516250Yes. Millions of people make music all around the world coincidences happen. Even small random no name European bands. Like what the fuck do you think that this small no name band knew it was happening but wouldn't tell people so they put it in song same with the simpsons? When you think about it you see how ridiculous it is. There are 8 billion people on this planet coincidences happen
>>507516342>rest of the world is quickly developingthe entire world is decaying as well what are you talking about?
>>507481925The U.S. was already only 69.1% White according to the 2000 census. America wasn't this white nationalist utopia people make it out as at the time.
>>507468851 (OP)NYC in the 90s was kino. Rudy had routed the niggers out of manhattan and it hadnโt become a giant Starbucks yet. The perfect amount of grungy youthful energy, vice (but not nigger tier) and poshness. Think Seinfeld or friends.
Not as kino as Seattle in the 90s but close
Both are significantly worse these days but for different reasons
>>507483239People think the Twin Towers were ugly, but I think they were awesome. They just looked cool.
They were dignified, handsome buildings that just dominated skyline. The fact they interacted with the environment around them, shimmering at different parts of the day in the sun, just reinforces how cool they were.
I was there as a kid around 1982-83 and I remember seeing the WTC towers from far away and getting closer to them. but we never got to go up in them and I never got to go back until 2015. Wasn't so impressed with the New one.
but NYC was a shithole in the 1980s. sleezy as fuck
Brooklyn was filthy too.
>>507508857>When they mock MAGA they still think they're mocking "Walmart Jesus" era Reps, "le Faux News", Iraq War supporters, Young Earth creationists.MAGAtards really can't walk around like they deserve respect, you are just as stupid as the dumbest boomer zogcon dinosaur denier, even more so because you chose the most shady narcissist retard liar in the continental US to follow.
>>507518141>another retarded 3rd world European obsessed with our country and our politics
>>507469080Honestly, being adult and living in a large city, this scape now seems dull and boring on contrary as it used to be seen as a kid. Even without niggers and trash everywhere.
>>507516652They may have nothing to do together, but they knew something will happen for sure. The band may be small and unheard of ,but so are all the satanic degenerate cults.
>>507468851 (OP)Here's a 20 hour doc on the entire history of NYC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1omW-OPlRk
>>507518584No dude it was just a coincidence thats all. There is no reason to hide this shit in a song or cartoon and not just tell us. Think logically here
>>507518438>whoa why are you paying attention to the politics of the world hegemon obsessed muchi may be obsessed but you still are retarded
enjoy dying for ZOG you fucking faggot
>>507518711People freaking out, public unrest, saving face on international stage, having a reason to bomb the fuck out of the middle east for a second time, oil, arms sales, expand NATO, I can go on and on with the reasons.
>>507518887No it's more the obsession with us while ignoring your own countries that are failing.
>>507518916>People freaking out, public unrestSo.....to prevent people freaking out and having public unrest.....we will allow 9/11 to happen without warning people which causes people freaking out and public unrest. Do you listen to yourself?
Iโm going to New York next week. Will I as a blond and blue eyed man get stabbed if I go on the subway? What areas should I avoid?
>>507519195Do not go to the Bronx. Stay in the trendy areas of Brooklyn. Do not go to Brownsville under any circumstance. NYC is not like the wild west just use common sense
>>507468851 (OP)Yea I was in college in the city then and it was great, post Giuliani crime-cleanup, city was breddy gud, fun times, there were still nogs to be aware of of course but cops kept them in check all the way up to 125th. Before 9/11 you could get a fake ID for $20 in Chinatown that was perfect, but a lot of the best bars didn't care anyway. As EDM took off the big clubs got incredibly lame, too expensive and filled with EDM dorks but also bewildered bridge-and-tunnel guys who didn't understand dance music but were still there trying to snag underage poon, except by then tastes had changed and girls wanted nothing to do with guys like that.
The hipster scene started to evolve in 2002-2003 in Brooklyn, though. My peer group were the first people to start wearing trucker hats, beards, flannel, microbrews, etc.; all the hipster tropes were new then. And you won't be surprised to know that the real "pioneers" of the modern hipster scene were total fucking dickheads.
>>507519151Ye, if you warn 'the world' or ' the people' the whole psyop would not work. That's the whole thing. If Bush confessed it was an inside, his government would fall instantly, USA would get no international support, people would be angry. That's why people like Alex Jones are valuable as a controlled opposition, they "leak" stuff in form of a conspiracy that somehow later on turns on right so that the government can save face and public manipulated.
>>507519731But they were warning the world though right by putting those messages in.
>>507519195I have blonde and blue and I rode the train at 3:30 am after leaving a bar drunk as fuck. from 42 to ground zero. not much happening. of course I may have just got lucky. anything can happen anywhere. You're more likely to get stabbed in San Francisco then Manhattan right now. But go into Brooklyn or up into the Bronx, that's a different story. Stay below middle town. stay below 75th west and east. also around the Flat Iron building it's kind of sketchy I noticed. try and avoid that area at night
>>5074832399/11 broke the myth of America's invincibility. They haven't gotten a real win since Irak in the early 00s.
>>507519151>No it's more the obsession with us while ignoring your own countries that are failing.Am I ignoring sweden failing? No, but swedens failures are both way less interesting than and downstream of americas failure. and we got the far right ex nazi party into power and whoops turns out they're kosher right who don't do anything so that basically exhausted the last vitality in swedish politics. The difference between you and me is that I know when to drag and drop politicians into the retard bucket.
>>507520797>Am I ignoring sweden failing? NoYes you are. 100%. I can never imagine being such a cuck that you ignore your own country to whine about the politics of a country you probably have never been to. You can't blame us foe your country's failures. Any corruption that comes from us comes because your leaders are corrupt and take any bribes we give them to destroy your country so yea ignore that you stupid cuck and whine about the US all day. God you guys are pathetic.
>>507469143What, you've never seen express elevators before?
>>507519399>>507520186Are there any safe cities in the US at all where you mightn't get robbed walking late?
>>507521941All cities all across the world have areas that might be sketchy at night. That said South Burlington, Vermont because it most likely is the whitest city in the country.
>>507522200> All cities all across the world have areas that might be sketchy at night.Pure projection.
>>507522325Name me a city that doesn't have this issue
>>507522583Jewrope:
Tallinn
Narva
Tartu
Paldiski
Rakvere
Russia:
Moscow
Saint Petersburg
Basically any city in 2025
Wasn't hard.
>>507469944Hick detected kek
>>507522915>Tallinnhttps://armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-europe/#:~:text=Tallinn%2C%20Estonia,-Estonia%27s%20capital%20city&text=The%20city%20is%20mostly%20safe,despite%20its%20low%20crime%20rates.
>The city is mostly safe and has a low crime rate of 22.58, although there is an increased risk of petty crime and even violent crime around the port area. However, Tallinn has a homicide rate of around 5.5 per 100,000 people despite its low crime rates.>Moscowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Russia
>The main crime for tourists to watch out for in Russia is pickpockets, which can be found at multiple places in Moscow (e.g. St. Basil's Cathedral, Red Square, Moscow Metro) and St. Petersburg (e.g. The State Hermitage Museum, Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood, Peterhof Grand Palace). Another crime that may affect tourists include fake alcohol which has been ongoing for years. Both those places have places that I literally said all cities have.
>>507521055it's downstream in the sense that it's an american world and our politicians are retarded loser simps, I wasn't accusing you of le cia meddling (even though the cia totally shot PM palme ok). if sweden wanted to we could have been fully independent with nuclear capabilities but for some reason our leadership didn't want to
>>507523492>our politicians are retarded loser simpsand this is the problem with all you 3rd world Europeans. You whine about us all day but the source of our power is YOUR leaders also being corrupt and taking our bribes. If every European country decided to knock that off they could hurt the US but they chose not to and you retarded subhumans listen to your local media telling you not to pay attention to who is behind the curtain and to whine about Drumpf all day. You guys truly are cucks.
>>507468851 (OP)It was nicer, but still shit
>>507519986They put 'messages' all over the place for years, but never put out the original the truth. They made people divide, question themselves, think of different theories. If the Bush administration went and straight up said what was 9/11 about and how it happened the USA probably would not exist in it's current form for better or worse.
>>507523384> >TallinnNigger, I lived there for 5 years. Street crime doesn't exist in Estonia. The only crimes can happen are either an Estonian suddenly goes crazy and goes shooting his neighbors in a village every few years or drunk knife fighting in commieblock appartments.
> pickpockets, which can be found at multiple places in Moscow (e.g. St. Basil's Cathedral, Red Square, Moscow Metro) and St. Petersburg (e.g. The State Hermitage Museum, Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood, Peterhof Grand Palace)Straight up lie. It's not India, since we got rid of gopniks there is no pickpocketers, especially in the mentioned tourist places.
> fake alcoholSomething from 20th century (aside from one exact case where the businessman misplaces spirits types).
Russian parts of Wiki are written and managed by Ukrainians.
>>507468851 (OP)People were RUDE FUCKS in NYC before the jews put them in their place.
not kidding.
>>507524083Cool so they will put messages to warn us but they simply won't tell us and warn us.
How do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
>>507524156Crime stats are crime stats retard your anecdotal evidence means jack shit. They have problem areas there in both those cities which is what I said every city has. You were wrong. You can't even whine about wikipedia because all those facts have citations to links proving what they are saying
>>507524509Guy just wanted you to know he was walking there.
>>507524648>a nigger from a literal war zone tells me about the cities where I've been living for yearsFunny. Guess it's a defensive instinct to project that all places on Earth are just the same shit holes as Northern America cities in 2025. Anyway.
It was a crime-filled shithole that everybody suddenly pretended to love after 9/11 happened.
>>507525160>Russian caught lying yet againIn other news water is wet
There is as a mars themed restaurant
new yorks been dogshit kike disneyland since they traded jon starks
>>507525566> caught lyingWhere?
>>507523683all i'm saying is stop worshipping the bald orange retard
>>507468851 (OP)Yeah, I used to watch Ghost Writer when I was off school. It looked like outside the cosby show house.
>>507525595There was that place is long gone closed 13 years ago. There was a better themed restaurant IMO named Ninja NY which was an underground restaurant and the dining area was a small Japanese village. From when you entered to when you left people dressed as ninjas would harass and scare you even when you were on the urinal. It was great. Pricey but great.
>>507525762>>507523384>>507525903All I am saying is stop obsessing over us and fix your own country. This obsession with Trump almost comes off as you guys gave up on life and are mad that us Americans have optimism despite how misguided it is and you want us to be as miserable as you are.
>>507526000Fuck Ghost Writer Square One was the shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgaCCxwUml8
>>507468851 (OP)sure, i went to the WTC when I was a teen. NYC sucked back then, and it sucks now.
>>507468851 (OP)Beautiful. Giuliani cleaned up that fucking shithole like you wouldn't believe. I'd be up in Manhattan, on business, maybe 4 times a year and it was wonderful.
>>507526289>>507524156Anyway, I'm glad that you will never live in safe cities (like I mentioned) and will be murdered by a nigger compatriot in your war zone of a city you call American.
>>507526289it would have been less hopium fuelled if you had actually defended him instead of just waving away the accusations with butthurt that people talk about your country
>>507526555>no responsekek Russians everyone
>>507526608I am not getting into a debate about Trump with a disingenuous cuck who obsesses over a country that is not his. I am going to take a wild guess here tell me if I am right. You are unemployed and you post the sign tapping meme often correct?
I'm a zoomer and never went to NYC but I always imagined late 90s NYC to be a magical colorful paradise.
>>507468851 (OP)it was full of jews. zionists have no issue killing or using jews to further their goals. zionists use judaism as a untouchability superpower. whoever is against the kazharian mafia who could not be further from jews will be labeled an antisemite. so people died so zionists could rally judeo-christcucks to defeat all sourrounding muslim enemies of the zionist state, israel. nothing has changed since then, enjoy your war with iran, with your boots on the ground.
>>507526861incorrect, I am an engineer and I only come to /pol/ when there's something funny happening like israel being bombed
>>507528032engineer of what? What do you do? That is such a broad job description
>>507528170He engineers black dildos for their women and men and creates dating sites for interracial couples with cuck fetish.
Truly was a better time. My parents were in nyc the winter before 9/11, kinda jealous ngl, the photos are pure kino. I grew up dreaming of living in nyc some day but that dream is long dead, not even interested in visiting anymore. Kikes turned most cool places to absolute shit
>>507469377Lol this is almost as retarded as
>kikes born today suffer from generational holocauster trauma
>>507468984It's not lost on me one fucking nigger bit that the movie "12 years a slave" was released in 2013
>>507469143Mocked up on a set in LA. Just like the Boston marathon.
>>507469991Well now a charity for everyone sounds stupid. You'll jerk off to fire fighters, police, and politicians
>>507468851 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFqmzqIn2_Y