Thank you for playing. Regime change in Israel next.

>>507469567 (OP)
Nice copium thread my gypsy brother

>>507469567 (OP)
Five more targets were bombed in Tehran recently, including the the IRGC headquarters.

will i seem like an insightful political commentator if i add >trump is watching
to the end of every summary?

>>507469567 (OP)

Just shut up. Your "Israel can't win, iran too stronk" nonsense is irritating. How stupid can you get?


Iran lost everything.
They were subject to the boiling frog strategy.
Their proxies unrooted, their commandment decapitated.
Most of their nuclear sites rendered unusable for now.
Their air defence practically useless.
Their military airbases are destroyed. Their oil refineries are getting bombed.

The whole country is a sitting duck.


What can they do? They apparently had 2000 to 3000 missiles that can reach israel. How many did they launch? How many were intercepted? 97% is the interception rate.

Do you think they'll win shit with 60 to 90 missiles hitting the ground? Even the subsequent explosions are of a far weaker scale than those caused by f35i ordinance.

The US, France, the UK and Germany would trade the fate of their capitals for the preservation of Israel. They're actively shutting down missiles and drones right now. Do you really think they'd do nothing if the wave turned on Iran's side???????


Worse of all, America will step in because they're the only ones with the planes and the bombs needed to destroy the deep underground nuclear centers of iran. They have to be the ones who give the last blow.

You're just seeing a desperate prey agitating in what can only be described as last suffocations before impending death.

>>507469567 (OP)
>regime change in israel
The israeli government should be disbanded and given to a coalition of loud naggy Palestinian women

>>507469893
>America will step in
No, we won't.

>>507469567 (OP)
Awesome cope list bro!

I hope Iran keeps hitting them until they're indistinguishable from Gaza.

>>507469893
the question is not whether Iran loses but if the US can win a groundwar in 100million people afghanistan with missiles

>>507470174
>thinks US will fight in Iran, let alone a ground war
LMFAO

>>507469972
Just WATCH IT UNFOLD golem.
It was all already planned before Israel struck Natanz. They didn't plan that alone.

And for this plan to go to fruition, the US will have to attack the deep underground bases of Qom among others and Israel just can't do it. You need B2 Stealth Bombers. You need GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrators.

They will pretext Iran preparing a bomb after Israel's attack. They might do it after iran hits a US base subsequently to the US taking a more active part in defense or offense operations of the IDF.


Doesn't matter.
But the US B2 Bombers will fly over Iran.

>>507469919
against Geneva convention

This is complete copium. Iran remains capable of waging warfare, obviously, but they’ve taken massive blows to their military, energy infrastructure, and nuclear program.

>>507470174
They don't need a ground war. We're not in 2015. We're in 2025. They need to destroy their underground bases and air defense and that's it.

Afterward they can bomb whatever they want, whenever they want and Iran would have no chance of getting nukes either way.

The initial fear was of coordinated saturation strikes on Israel and US bases that would've left Tel aviv in ruins but that's not possible anymore.


The Iranian allies were slowcooked like a frog. Hezbollah acted very timidly and at every timid missile fire Israel located the site from where it was launched a pulverised it. They did the same with iran. Even before this last attack, they had already destroyed major missile silos and manufacturing sites.


And Iran is now helping them getting rid of, of what remains of its arsenal all while losing 97% of their projectiles mid air.

>>507469784
Look out everyone, Trump is standing back and standing by

>>507470914
LAW AND WARDER

>>507469773
man the orange nigger is such a disaapointment...i was a fan for years but fuck him seriously

>>507470401
israel banks on it

>>507470174
America will not support a real war with Iran. Sure we will probably give Israel intel and supplies because our politicians are golem traitors but they have no chance of convincing Americans of a real war.

>>507470571
They're not capable anymore.
What made them capable before can br summed up in high intensity saturation strikes coordinated with Hezbollah and the PMB of Iraq and that's not possible anymore.

The events of 7th october were not foreseen or planned for so they were taken aback. And facing a situation where they could neither fully commit nor stay still while gazans were butchered, hezbollah opted to play AGAINST is own strengths by going into a war of attrition.


Thing, is, if you start with kiryat shmona only, and let the other run escalations whenever they want, they will just locate the positions from where missiles are launched and destroy them one by one whereas a coordinated saturation strike gets rid of Israeli electrical grid airbases, dimona and iron dome. Except that they could only do that in a context where they or Iran was attacked. They were terrorized that the west was waiting for an opportunity to jump in.

So hezbollah was slow cooked, and iran was too.


Iran is now emptying it's remaining reserve of missiles capable od reaching Israel that weren't already destroyed. Once they're low enough, the US joins a B2 Bomber will fly over tehran.

>>507470749
>They don't need a ground war. We're not in 2015. We're in 2025. They need to destroy their underground bases and air defense and that's it.
enough to create a quagmire not enough to end the conflict, you can't do this where iran is located going to spill over

>>507471181
you have no choice, you gave netanyahu carte blanche and boarded the pirate ship

>>507470050
>I hope Iran keeps hitting them until they're indistinguishable from Gaza.
SAME
SAME
SAME
SAME

>>507471348
You're gravely mistaken. It's enough for them, and if war spills out it's bonus point. How can Israel claim fighting human animals and a necessity for them to increase the range of their buffer zone if the region isn't in a post apocalyptic state? Organized state actors are the danger. Factions like al nosra or anything that could result from a collapse of institutions in Iran would only be a tool.

The only danger that ever was from Iran was two fold:
- the massive arsenal of cheap missiles that they and their proxies had which today is mostly destroyed
- the threat of iran getting nuclear in the aftermath of a strike

And today there's a solution to both of these problems.

If war and instability spills out in the west, good, that means they have a justification to strengthen their hold there. If it spills east, it's even better, that leaves Pakistan with an internal problem. They next wirh turkey either way.

>>507470411
>the US will have to attack the deep underground bases of Qom among others and Israel just can't do it.

No. We can just keep an eye on them to make sure they don't rebuild what they need to use them in the first place. The containment work Israel is doing is enough.

>>507471208
>sand tribes killing each other with white mans money, using white mens inventions, proclaiming their knowledge on a white mans forum while chilling in marocco.

>>507469567 (OP)
Semites telling themselves stories.

Get back to me when they start nuking each other.

>>507471019
your opinion means nothing, kike boy

>>507469735
How many feet of feces were you buried under when you made this abhorrent comment?
I can't believe things like you are allow communication with the outside world

>>507471961
You can't do that. It's not just nuclear installations that are underground. The whole purpose of this attack on Natanz isn't striking Natanz per se but leveraging on the aftermath to justify an attack against the real targets buried deep in the Zagros mountains.

You should read what your own generals and politologues write.

I'm not trying to convince you, that'd be a useless fruitless endeavor. Why don't we just watch it unfold and see who's right?

>>507471894
not the west, the oil niggers

>>507472109
>kike boy

>>507469748
It’s crazy to me Israel is able to operate in the skies of Iran with impunity

>>507471208
We couldn't even do shit to Yemen. Iran is way bigger and more prepared. Also people in the US, especially liberal cities, hate Israel. Republicans don't like to acknowledge it, but American conservatives are more nativist than ever and don't want to spend money for kikes overseas.

>>507469773
MIGA

>>507472022
Israel is no sand tribe no matter the level of mental gymnastics you're capable of.
Their elite is white British, Russian and Polish with deep root in America.

I don't understand how you can call Zuckerberg lookalikes sand tribes.

I know there's this question about whether Israel is using America or if America is the one using Israel as an unsinkable aircraft carrier. In my opinion both statements are true.

At the end of the day, it's just a matter of keeping the MENA region's head to the ground and on check in the aftermath of the sikes picot agreement. Israel the best vehicle for that but not the only one.


Now that the rimland is effectively "pacified", you can finally set your eyes on China and Russia.

>>507472209
Calm down Ahmed
Your seething wont damage Israel in any way

>>507471019
Agreed. Truly the goodest goy. I'm sure they have a special places in Jewish not heaven picked out for him

>>507472911
you mean israel is lying about who they are and have no ties to that land? shocker

>>507472519
Your logic is deeply flawed. Yeah, it's hard to "do shit" to people who already lost everything. Yemenis live in a post apocalyptic society, suffered a decade of famin and a war where saudis and UAE dropped every bombed they got their hands on to get rid od the Yemeni problem. Insects and vermin were a major way of sustenance during that famin.

America dropping a few bombs on some missile silos wasn't gonna affect their resolve and your state apparatus didn't count on it. All that mattered was depleting the missile arsenal of the iranian camp.

Iran is more fragile because it has more to lose and more ambitions. Why finish the job? They don't need to finish any job. They just need to destroy the nuclear energy sites and missiles and keep them on check from then on. Iran becomes as harmless as Iraw afterwards.

>>507473304
As harmless as iraq afterward*

>>507473304
everybody agrees with you here, israel is a bunch of polish, russian and british larping as ancient sandpeople and they got no right to be there and pick fights you got it

>>507469567 (OP)

>>507469567 (OP)
Dissolve Israel. Israel is the greatest roadblock to World Peace there is.

>>507471019
You were retarded for years and now...you're still a retard, you just feel it in the ass and it's unpleasant. But that too shall pass and you'll eat the next goyslop you're fed.

Jews can never beat North Korea though, their leaders have higher IQ than the Russians who are roleplaying religious jews in Israel. Also Iran is filled to the brim with spies and turncoats, it's too open society for that kind of system.

>>507469735
YOU MUST BE ONE OF THOSE KIKE BOOTLICKERS

>>507473593
you are right everybody but you is retarded and israel is british, polish and russian without any ties to the ancient sand people

>>507469567 (OP)
How many US politicians have to die before we put America first?

>>507473800
It's like 20% or so eastern Europeans lording over the rest of the 80%. Citizenship only for jews more or less, try apply as a non-jew even if you work there 10 years. It's a de-factor ethnostate but western leaders are typically too scared to say it, instead they arrest you for saying nigger on Facebook

>>507469893
Iran did lose its proxies however The Houthis are still around and their capacity hasn’t bern significantly impacted. They are the only ones who didn’t face a ground invasion.
Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, all took troops on the ground to subdue.
Iran will require troops on the ground to enact regime change.
The US will get involved but it remains to be seen if China will take this golden opportunity to jump on Taiwan. The US is heading to hyperinflation with the debt. We will soon have the debt outpace our total spending capacity indefinitely. We could sell debt because we had a big army sitting around and we could theoretically pay it off, once it surpasses spending it will sink economy. As in it has surpassed our gold reserve and our potential income. It can never be paid back and with our army busy no one will subsidize us.
what will happen when blacks don’t get their checks, stores can’t keep their doors open, Hispanics wont afford housing?

Iran’s defense systems were hit in a coordinated strike that took years to make, once they’re back online the air strikes will cease.

>>507471181
Convince Americans?
No war we fought since the civil war did we vote for.

>>507469567 (OP)
>Trump is watching.
lmao

>>507473704
When he war is between Muslims and Anyone Else
I always support anyone else

>>507473823
America is a golden calf and they will suck it dry. The fact that you voted twice for Trump nullifies all hope that you regain your country back.

Not only that, but Trumps antithesis that will be elected after this last term of his will undo all things related to matters like immigration. You know what they'll keep? What he was actually there for:

- medicare because only Israel deserves universal Healthcare and because you need more military budget
- a new world war the outcome of which will leave you in an orwellian world
- a loss of civil liberties and freedoms worse than the patriot act, had it been Obama, you would've reacted to what willl unfold. But as long as the libs are the ones getting cooked, you'll sheer for it and forget you're in the same pot


The psyops for his 2nd term on this site were particularly funny to watch due to how cheap and unorganic they were compared to thr first term. AI generated pictures giving him a messianic look and posts that look like carbon copies of each other.

>>507470749
Israel surviving isn’t necessarily the question, it is will Israel succeed in enacting regime change. I doubt it. If it does happen it will cost America what little they have left.

>>507471181

>>507471894
Source on their missile reserves being destroyed?

>>507474519
So all of them?

>>507472911
That’s retardation. We aren’t using them as an unsinkable air port. They are using us.
Heartland theory is silly. There is ultimately no heartland and the theory presumes a few things which are no longer true. The northern front of Russia is not safe whatsoever. The northern sea above Russia and the U.S. will be traversable in our lifetime.

Our relationship with israel is entirely one sided and America will no longer be a player in the near future unless we turn things around demographically.
There jus isn’t a world in which a brown country defeats China or Russia in a war.
(Total war)

>>507469735
Indians admitting they are dirty gypsies while defending jews lmao

>>507469567 (OP)
Let me fix that for you.

So far:

1. Israel has attacked another country completely unprovoked

2. That country is fighting back against Israel's aggressive

This is the situation in a nutshell.

>>507473304
Israel does not care about Iran having nukes. They want a pro-israel regime installed. Nukes or not, Iran doesn’t have nukes now and Israel still wants them gone. Israel said Iran had to go back in the 70s.

>>507474160
>however The Houthis are still around and their capacity hasn’t bern significantly impacted


The Houtis striking capability was actually significantly hit and all strikes against them hit their missile depots and were a preparation for this war on Iran thus why their involvement now is almost non existent.


Besides, Houtis were not the ones supposed to fight Israel. Their weapons were supposed to be pointed at saudis and uae in case of global war. Hezbollah were the only ones in a position to inflict a huge blow to Israel but they lost it all when they chose to go with a war of attrition against Israel, playing against their own strengths but left with no other choice given what was happening in Gaza and the looming threat of American aircraft carriers.


They were beaten in detail and slowly when their entire military strategy was focused on highly concentrated saturation strike where thousands of missiles should've been fired in coordinated attacks to render Israeli airbases and defence unusable and subsequently hit their critical infrastructure.


Rather than doing that and due to events out of their control they went with 10 to 100 rocket per day max. All they did was train the iron dome and Palantir's AI.

>>507469567 (OP)
They could nuke counterfeit Israel out of existence (if nukes were real), and this would continue because it’s the UK and US who are doing this.
>>507470749
This has never been about nukes because nukes are not real.

>>507469567 (OP)
>Trump is watching
amerimuttoid ability to invent reasons why Trump is still hecking based and redpilled when each and every time he humiliates them with a statement to opposite effect just a day later is really something to behold
literal NPCs

>>507470174
>but if the US can win a groundwar in 100million people afghanistan with missiles
nigga, America couldn't even beat Afghanistan

>>507472350
I'm wondering the same about Ukranian drones hitting deep inside Russia.
Has anti-air become lost technology, like the Moon rockets?

>>507474519
A terrible fate always awaited us. We took this land thinking it was free. We did not appreciate what we had. A great conflict, should we survive, will mature the American race into a world race like the Germans or the Italians or Chinese.
There never would have been a Hitler without WWI, no WWI without Franco Prussian war no Franco Prussian without Napoleon, no Napoleon without Thirty years war.
There wouldn’t have been a thirty years war if the bohemian niggs had paid their taxes.
All these were necessary.

>>507474887
The most important aspect is the rising technological capabilities of China and the stagnation of our own, as well as China’s mineral access and ability to outproduce anything we produce probably 10-100 fold

>>507472911
>Israel is no sand tribe
Yes, you fucking are, and no amount of charade will ever change that.
>We are your Elite
>But we are also Jews :> uwu

>>507475437
We could take China if we were a free country.

>>507469893
Ok rabbi.

>>507475016
I'm not denying anything here. Bur that country has already lost and you don't seem to realize it. And you'll also get the outcome you wanted:

The complete and utter destruction of the Muslim world from end to end. After the end of their phase of demoralization, they will end up trying to act exactly like you.


So rejoice.
I'm supposed to be mad, even if not muslim, i see this as a great harm to the world


You? You should be fucking cheering. You didn't just manage to break a civilizational group, you planted the seed required for them to reject all that defined their identity and try to be like you.

You won
I don't understand why you support Iran
I've been watching you kvetch and cope for years, and your talking points were those of a person who should be cheering now

Next in line are Turkey and Pakistan.
So you should be even more ecstatic
Turkroaches too will eat dirt

>>507469773
>>507471019
>>507472603
Actually is the guys fault who attacked first.

>>507475485
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ecoregions_in_Israel

Whites should be nuanced in their takes. Just calling everything in the Middle East desert is nigger-tier behaviour.

>>507475953
Stay in denial. One who refuses to acknowledge hard truths is deemed to fail in his endeavours and he lacks the ability to even accept a loss or a problem as is, how could he ever dream of solving it?

You're just like my people. They're delusional too. But they suffer from theveven worse illness of determinism and the belief that all will be fine at the end thanks to god.

How can a people learn when they believe they know everything that matters
How can they have the resolve to take necessary and unpleasant action when they think everythings already written?

>>507476337
>nigger-tier behaviour.
nice memeflag u got there cocksucker

>>507469972
You will bomb their underground nuclear facilities because this way you dont have to worry about Iran anymore, forever

>>507476057
Turkey cant be defeated by amy nation except the USA and if the US attacks turkey they will antagonize 90% of the planet,including Romania and the balkans

>>507469567 (OP)

>POUYAN

>>507469773
maybe he shouldnt insist on Iran having 0 enrichment capabilities. His fault desu by taking israels position.

>>507469735
poo

Israel/US are doing fine too. Get nukes or get blacked.

>>507476797
My friend
They don't beat a nation by hitting it when it's strong
They subvert it, tire it, destroy it economically, manufacture internal dissent and cook them slow. Only then do they strike.


I'll remind you of a declaration of the ex chief of Mossad, Yossi Cohen, in 2020, which went totally under the radar.
He stated that Iran would not br a serious problem anymore and that they were a done deal and that the primary target Israel should focus on and start to plan against is Turkey.


When someone, especially these people tell you what they're gonna do next, you listen.

>>507470988
peak monitoring the situation

>>507476578

>>507471019

Kill Yourself you pathetic Nigger.

>>507469748
Nice AI moshe but next time try to post something that isn't obviously fake cgi

>>507471175

Nope. Not happening.

>>507474349

It's not happening. Cope faggot.

>>507475016

Kek these two nations have been fighting for decades. Nothing is unprovoked. You fucking weirdo. Stop caring about them.

>>507469567 (OP)
Right, the missiles aren't even getting through Usrael's defenses anymore today while Israel is having a merry / fiery party in Teheran, but it's all going well citizens, please disperse while the great and competent Khamenai fixes things.

Never thought i'd see "collapsing DDR" style propaganda in person but here we are. Turns out theocrats and commies act alike in distress.

>>507477143
Nuke them with sarmat-II missiles. Simple.

>>507477327
Convinced or not. It's gonna happen. Don't believe a word i say. Watch it soon unfold.

It won't require boots on the ground.
It won't require calling you in.

All that needed is a week of GBU-57As hitting precise locations in the Zagros mountain chains now that Iran lost its mutual assured destruction against Israel after 2 years of attrition war.

>>507477598
Won't happen. I don't know how, but Israel has leverage on the Kremlin. They convinced them not to arm Iran. Russia refused or stalled indefinitely sales od modern aircraft and s400s to Iran leaving them wirh a few s300s and aircrafts from the 70s and 80s.

Likewise wirh Syria.
Even when Russias interests are obviously at stake.


Their turn will eventually come, but they seem oblivious to the fact that losing the rimlands (middle east + mena) will cost them everything in a few decades.

>>507469567 (OP)
So far both side strikes dealt completely neglectable damage to each other. They can continue for months and nothing really will change.

Just proves relevance of rocket and avication attacks is overestimated. Its not real war (neither is one in Ukraine for that point). Without troops on the ground or MASSIVE bombing coninceding with MASSIVE losses there`ll be no result. But even so, USA bombed Cambodia to stone age (litterally, destroying EVERY city to uninhabbitable rubble), but still coudnt beat Khmers.

Until Iran starts sending massive ground troops to Syria, its just a farce.

>>507477611
>It won't require boots on the ground.
It requires someone's boots on the ground, if it's not Zogbots directly on the ground, then whose boots is it?

this is step one of israels lan, step three is an american ground war in iran

>>507469773
When mankind ends, so do all wars.

>>507478130
At this rate the most dangerous part of the "ground war" will be the tourist traps Israel is gonna make out of the ruins.

>>507478158
Not true, even chimpanzees and ants know warfare.
Life is war and war is life.

>>507469773
did he start them???

>>507469735
An Indian, laugh at him

>>507469893
What did they lose?

Iran is a country of 90 mln, with million strong army, 2800+ univercities and thriving sciences and industry, most relevant stuff they have is deep underground and Israel complaints that reach it. It can produces hundreds of rockets daily, while Israel has to beg US for them.

Israel attack served one and only purpose and its to pull USA into war.

>>507478158
When Washington, Tel Aviv, Moscow and London end, all wars will end.
Add Beijing for good measure but at least they mostly kill each other.

>>507478452

Believe it or not, Indians actually eat feces!

>>507469567 (OP)
Thanks nobody on Twitter

>>507469773
Not his fault in the slightest, besides with Ukraine peace is now at least within sight.
And Gaza can't really be called a war anymore, just a few morons thst force Israel to keep shooting at them so they can moan about it.

>>507478485
The person you are responding to is an Israeli Nationalist, a Zionist if you will.

>>507477943
You're on drugs if you think Iran faced negligible damage.

Their missile production sites and many storage sites as well as air defences were already severely hit in the previous strike that happened a few months ago.

They lost Hezbollah which was their golden asset and Houtis losr most of their stockpiles.

Iran's commandment was decapitated.
Their best nuclear scientists gone.
Natanz and Isfahan sites hit.
Refineries and oil wells hit.
They were assessed to only have left 2000 to 3000 missiles capable of reaching israel after Israel struck Natanz. With a 97% interception rate only 60 to 90 would everhit the ground.

As the shiny missiles with weak impact force gather all the attention, Israel strikes silently and capitalizes on the fog of war and Iran's refusal to lose the face to do what it ever dreamed of.

For 30 years, the NSA and US satellite have been collecting geolocation data on all imaginable targets that they should hit.

And unlike Iranian missiles, Israeli missiles reach their targets and generate impacts many times more destructive.


Once Iran exhausts what remains of its missile stockpiles and has no way to inflict substancial damage in Israel, their underground cities will be the target of american MOABs

China won't do shit
Russia won't do shit

>>507478549
Most wars in re dnt history have been caused by islam, including this one - thanks to Hamas' religiously inspired suicidal stupidity.

Gotta hand it to them though: They managed to get literally all of their allies killed before their last gasp.

>>507478049
No. It doesnt. The target isn't regime change. It's rendering Iran as vulnerable and harmless as Yemen and Iraq which is perfectly doable without boots on the ground.

Afterward, whatever Iran does, what little they'd be capable of doing, will be used as a pretense to either justify increases the US presence in Iraq and Syria or an enlargement of the Israeli "buffer zone"

>>507478696
>China won't do shit
Iran literally attacked China's trade through Suez, they are not friends.
>Russia won't do shit
Islamists have proven impotent assets against Ukraine while still terrorising Russians with attacks, their "alliance" was always tenuous at best.

>>507478415
Trump did leave the Iran nuclear agreement (which was signed by Iran, USA, China, France, Germany, Russia, the UK and the EU) at Israel's command during his first presidency. Now we get a war over Iran building nukes.
Couldn't possibly foresee that coming.

>>507479114
He tried to renegotiate it back then too.
Rejecting an offer you can't refuse like that has consequences like these, being too prideful to make meaningful and effective deals has likely cost Khamenai's Iran its neck.

>>507479045
You're either a complete idiot or completely disinginuous. Either way, any effort on my end to show you different perspective than the obtuse one you have would have the same outcome as spilling water in a desert.

Blind yourself with your beliefs all you want

>>507478485
irans feminst, regime critics and liberals now say to enrich as it is the only way to stop the US and Israels illegal war of aggression

the ayatollah should have learned from chamberlain that appeasement does not work

>>507469735
You eat human excrement rakesh.

>>507469893
Nice vpn kike.

>>507479301
> He tried to renegotiate it back then too.
Which is stupid. Let's break a deal only to resign the same deal every year. That's how the world will achieve nuclear security.

No Iranian ever called me Amalek.
No Iranian ever threatened to nuke my country.
No Iranian ever demanded multi-generational guilt and reparation from me.

Why should I be mad at Iran again.
When did Iran last do a terror in europe?
Iran has never done anything to me lol.

>>507479391
China literally invested deeply in Israel's ports after the Houthis were stopped by the US in a mission paid for by the affected parties (including China's covert financing). Israel has made overtures to them for decades now.

Russia has destroyed muslims more brutally than even Israel has managed in Grozny, thinking that that was ever more than a master-servant relation to any muslim outside the rare few remotely comprtent ones they could find is delusion.

>>507479301
Could you please drop the fake words and be real for a moment. I agree with you that iran should've caved in but that wasn't a "negociation" as there was no room for concession on his end. Call it what it is and what it is is a diktat.

During the JCPOA, Iran was under the scrutiny of the IAEA with exhaustive inspections (which turned out to be a spyop with the chief of the organization sending information back to israel)

Iran ended the deal after they got what they needed and all his "negociations" afterward can be summee up as "drop nuclear as an energy source or else"

>>507479668
Look the choices were evidently to play along or to die, if a bit of theatre is toi "stupid" to save yourself then maybe it is not worse than you.

>>507479654
I'm a berber/arab Moroccan and I'm in pain over what happens over there. Doesn't mean i should be delusional and lie to myself like you do.

>>507479857
If it wasn't already obvious, i meant to say the US ended the deal after they got what they needed, not iran

>>507470749
Kek you're a fucking retard with a VPN
>W-we can take over a country without setting foot in it
Lol lmao the only reason America has never tried is because hundreds of thousands of dead soldiers are required.

>>507479857
I literally called it a deal you can't refuse, a more direct word would be a demand, a diktat implies far too much emotional investment on the part of the US.
They wanted peace, they demanded credible peace and when that was refused they allowed their pet to impose the peace of the grave.

And yes it was noted back then too that they were not too sad about Trump tearing it up, Trump was not wrong about it being a poor deal that offered Iran much but did little for the West and Israel beyond being a nice photo op.

>rally 'round the flag taking effect
they know what israel does to civilians
they know that the ayatollah is the only thing that can save them from genocide

>>507480327
>I literally called it a deal you can't refuse,
Then you're playing with words.
Call it a diktat. That's the word for it.

Imagine calling the terms of surrender of Germany during WW2 a "DEAL" yoi can't refuse

>>507479391
What is the likelyhood of Iran's regime collapsing in your estimation and what would it become? What do you think would be best?

>>507475206
Afghanistan wasn’t a state actor dickhead, it was a low-intensity conflict and the express policy was a long, low-intensity war for basically a subscription model to the MIC

>>507478647
Nigga he assassinated an Iranian general and kept sending billions to Israel.
It's his fault too.

>>507480554
No, the appropriate word is demand, as i've noted.
Diktat is far too emotionally charged for an exchange that wasn't even that meaningful for the US, owing to their dig being sufficient to take out Iran in due time.
Basically i'm saying Iran was a squirrel with attitude and Yapper (Israel) unsurprisingly caught it in the end.

And yes you could call those German terms that accurately.

>>507480285
Is your brain getting eating by parasites or did your mother drink too much when she was carrying you in her belly?


If you establish air supremacy, bomb underground sites and manufacturing sites and bomb oil production sites, why would you need to sacrifice anyone in a ground war? Why would you need to fight it off on land? What can the other country even do to threaten you?

You have total information awareness and they are completely unable to strike from long distance. Even their oil wells and refineries arr sitting duck


WHY DO YOU FRAME IT LIKE THE ONLY WAY IS TO SEND BOOTS ON THE GROUND THEN

>>507475501
There is no technological advantage over the Chinese outside of maybe a handful of super secret black wunderwaffen, and in the white world they can outproduce us in every way. They also have a stranglehold on raw materials needed for advanced weapon systems.

We stand zero chance without nuclear weapons.

>>507480850
He squished their terrrorist chiev faggot and enabled Israel to be the failsafe if they refused is what he did.

Hell Iran should have taken the hint with that guy's death, it pretty much literally spelled out "Stop using terrorists to meddle with our shit faggots!".

Alas they were hard of hearing.

>>507479857
If you think Iran should have given up its nukes, you are a poor study of history. What happened to Gaddafi ensured that would never happen ever again. Netanyahu said they would follow the "Libya model" with iran if the warning wasnt loud enough for you retards.

>>507481079
China sucks at diplomacy and is "wobbly" though, it is quite capable on defense but they are careful with all else for good reason.

Besides they might not like to admit it but Trump has them in a bit of a bind.

>>507480912
>No, the appropriate word is demand, as i've noted.
>Diktat is far too emotionally charged for an exchange that wasn't even that meaningful for the US, owing to their dig being sufficient to take out Iran in due time.
You're a snake and you're pilpulling. Diktat is too emotionally charged? Lmfao
It's likr hearing an EU political weasel talk. Fuck off

Iran sealed its fate in 75 when they kicked out the CIA installed puppet. The only choice they had was which sauce they were gonna be cooked in. Had they not developed a civil nuclear program in the first place, they would've faced the samr outcome, same as Iraq, same as Syria.

>>507481337
When you see US troops pull out of the region, hundreds of pizzas delivered to thr white house and Pentagon and get Intel from pakistan about whats about to occur, you cave in to fight another day rather than face what you're about to see unfold

>>507481507
Look mate the truth is involving too much emotion like that is what led many here to degenerate into the incoherent muslim apologists we all know and dread here today. But hey if you want your dramatic word then go and use it, just know it was never nearly as personal as you want to make it seem.

They have had many choices and consistently made them poorly, its only respite coming from its enemies' own mistakes. And those never last, especially not in the west.

>>507469773
TACO strikes again. Truly the greatest US president to have ever existed.

>>507481951
Diktat is not an emotionally charged word. It's like saying war is too emotionally charge word, special military conflict is morr accurate.

Diktat perfectly describes the situation in the most accurate and objective way.


Calling it "an offer you just can't refuse"

Is not only insulting one's intelligence but also reaching levels of mental gymnastics i have not yet seen on this board

>>507481951
>They have had many choices and consistently made them poorly, its only respite coming from its enemies' own mistakes.
Please, go on, enumerate them.

>>507481791
What the fuck are you talking about you dumb jungle monkey?

>>507482135
In some cases that is accurate, as i.e. Ukraine has illustrated.
The US was painfully reminded that its conception of what "war" was was not really accurate and its knowledge not really accurate, meanwhile Russia imposed a handicap on themselves by refusing to call a spade a spade and walked into some rather obvious traps right at the start of it.

And you can keep moaning about a Godfather reference but you can literally go back and see that i've never pretended that to be anything more than an appropriate reference which boils down to the actual accurate word which is "demand".

But while i respect a fellow autist's adamantness about exact definition i will nonetheless leave it at this.

>>507482291
You're wrong about the variety of monkey.
I'm more of a mountain monkey usually misidentified as sand monkey.

Anyways, what i was refering to were the signs that an imminent attack would occur:
- us troopd pulling out of bases around iran
- hundreds of pizzas being delivered to the white house and pentagon at night indicating that people weren't back home, which had become a very reliable indicator that somerhings about to happen
- Pakistan warning Iran of an incoming attack

Once you reach this stage and given the nature of your enemies, you'd rather cave in, preserve yourself and fight another day.

>>507474519
Fuck you and your nonsensical, long-winded blog posts. Faggot shill.

>>507482198
Theocracy and islam can probably fight for first place, egging Hamas on to do that suicidal stunt somewhere near the end, setting the Houthis to bother literally 12% of all world trade is a major one even later in the list and so on.

Really it's not hard to see if you're willing to look.

>>507482626
>demand
Do this or else isn't a demand by any stretch of the imagination. Which is exactly what Trump did after throwing the deal previously signed by his own country.

A negociation involves a room for concessions

In that case, the only option on the table was: "dismantle your civilian nuclear program or else face destruction"


This does not fit the definition of negociation or demands. The only party that was even suggesting counter offers or making concessions of any sort was the iranians.

Now you told me Iranians had countless options that they didn't evaluation in this "negociation". I called you up on that and I'm still waiting for you to lay out the numerous options they allegedly had

>>507483108
That is exactly what a demand is though, but i think i see the issue: You are not aware that this word has multiple similar but different meanings.

>>507469567 (OP)
actually the attack on Iran and its ensuring conflict is just a blanket to cover turning Israel completley into israel.
this gives them the perfect excuse to kick all the palestinians out.
So Iran gets to bomb the shit out of them and accept all the palestinian refugees.

>>507469773
Except he signed a cease fire with the houthis.
Ukraine and Russias war is dying down
Gaza has settled down
Assad got ousted

Now let's see what Biden did
>Russian invasion of Ukraine
>Hamas chimp out
>houthis targeting US ships
>allowed Afghanistan to fall and have ISIS make it extra bitter sweet by killing 20 of your own troops as you shut the door behind you

>>507469567 (OP)
Iran is getting worked over hard. So much colored cope.

>>507482862
Iran didn't ask hamas to do shit.
Hamas fucked their entire strategic planning in the region and left and hezbollah them unable to react properly.

In 2001 and 2003 the US had boots on the ground in the western and eastern neighboring countries of Iran and they had already determined that they'd invade the country eventually long beforr that.


Iran's reaction to that was to leverage the sentiment of aversion toward American presence in the region to disrupt their position in Iraq initially by helping the PMB which was successful and to prop up any entity that could eventually help them in what they saw as an inevitable war.

Iran didn't found hezbollah nor did they rule. Hezbollah was founded by lebanese villagers in the 80s and 90s at the heat of the Israeli invasion of lebanon. It is only after a few years that Iran stepped in and started to help via Syria.


You have absolutely no understanding of what happens in the region in the last decade, 50 years or century and are yet so assertive about the shit you spout that it's confounding.

The outcome would be the same if not worse had Iran acted like sheep.

>>507483108
>>507483285
Oh i forgit to read the latter bit, but their options were pretty obvious, as the real issue at the heart of it was threefold:
- Bothering of trade (Hormuz, Suez later)
- Terrorism against Europe
- The endless bitchfights with Israel

Practically a deal would have had to shut down all three of those concerns and then this could have been avoided.
Naturally you can pretend pride makes such a thing impossible but that's not the sort of impossible that genuinely matters.

They had options, chose not to take them, and will likely end up forced into the most brutal version of thise demands even after their country has been dismantled.

>>507469567 (OP)
>Regime change in Israel next.
I think most of the world agrees with this.

>>507483548
lol no one wants palestinians

>>507469567 (OP)
Why did they think they can succeed when they cant destroy Hamas and cant destroy Hezbollah, israeli leadership is genuinely retarded

>>507469567 (OP)
So far this has been a humiliation for Iran. What I don't get is why don't they have any anti-air capabilities? Do they even have an air force?

>>507483285
I know that the word is polysemic but using that word that can refer to multiple things as you yourself say rather than one that precisely refers to the issue at hand is disinginuous at best and your argumentation for that is laughable

"muuhh diktat is too emotionaly"
What does that even mean?

>>507483810
Then Iran should have immediately cut them off, simple as that, maybe even aid Israel in resolving that quickly to make it credible.

I was already aware of all these things you mention, yet astounded you do not see the obvious relations between actions and reactions.

People who can never see their own role in the wars they get embroiled in always suffer the worst fates, whether that is from lack of honesty or insight does not matter.
This world simply has no long term space for ideological fools in that sense.

>>507481194
I'm sorry I can't understand you while you have that kike cock in your mouth.

>>507484098
Pretending to be ignorant of the emotional connotations of a loanword is rather much more laughable, demand is nice, english and neutral.

Or are you not aware of connotations?

>>507475332
>Has anti-air become lost technology, like the Moon rockets?
After the soviets fell, every nation-state kinda assumed that history was over and the future was just going to be about bombing terrorists with drones.
So nobody really put much effort into AAA
Now nation-states are bombing each other with drones and are scrambling to build countermeasures.

>>507469893
well said and I totally agree.

>>507469972
I'll tell you what I tell my american friend. I'll miss you when youre shipped to israel for the ZOG. Sorry loser, enjoy dying, lol. I'll be laughing and watching it, when im jerking off watching porn on my dual screen setup. Haha

>>507477266
but in reality it is happening, and you will fight for israel. Dont be a bad goy now, mutt golem. Do your patriotic duty.

-PS: You know im right, its happening. Just give in. Let it happen. :-)

>>507484305
Ah yes the cock coinnosseur shares his views.

(no this is not going anywhere else, i just wanted to write cock coinnosseur)

>>507483818
I know you live in that alternate reality of yours Europeans where you eat the goyslop your media feeds you but the houtis were an independent actor and Iran tried as much as it could to distance itself from this initially without compromising it's position in the region and even sealed the date of Hezbollah by asking them to practice restraint which plunged them in a war of attrition they wrre not fit to fight.

Houtis were the ones who disrupted the trade, NOT in the hormuz but in the Aden Gulf and only for Israeli flagged ships initially before British, French and US vessels meddled in this, and as a desperate act as a reaction to the events unfolding in Gaza.

It's pretty rich of you to point the finger at them. Would you do the same in the hypothetical where a country acted accordingly as a reaction to thr Warsaw ghetto uprising?
> the endless bitching about israel
Oh, so it's justified cause they disapprove of Israel's actions in the region and speak their mind at the UN? Did i hear you right

>>507484614
>>507484770
What will they even fight there?
Sunburn and scammers?

They haven't exactly been more deadly in war than at peace.

>>507469567 (OP)
Why does Israel keep thinking that they can bomb people into turning against their leaders?
It made Hamas more popular in Gaza
It made Hezbollah more popular in Lebanon (they recently swept municipal elections)
And now they're trying it with Iran.

>>507469893
Post of the Year Award nominations staring down the barrel of the echo chamber and saying shoot me I ain’t dead yet.

>>507484854
Your complete clownworld take of "non goyslop" takes that clearly fails to keep up with reality is impressive but we ourselves intercepted Iranian arms in the gulf of Aden as far back as our campaign against Somalian pirates.

But hey i gotta go, nice talking to ya and don't get caught up in this bullshit and don't get degenerated by the torrents of nonsense these people you value are prone too, it doesn't help them either.

Ciao

>>507483108
>>507483108
I don't debate with goat fucking moroccan beheaders of scandinavian women you retarded nonce worshipping brown sand gorilla, i cannot imagine how low your IQ is and how ugly your countenance is

>>507484270
>maybe even aid Israel in resolving that quickly to make it credible.
I don't think we're going anywhere with this. Your too far gone and completely and totally ignorant of what happens in that region over the last 80 years yet are seemingly very assertive about all your statements.

Ask Israel to resolve what?
Nearly none of the people of gaza are from, they were all packed there over the years. Israel played wirh them over the decade by doing precisely what they're doing today but on a smaller scale. The only difference is that you're computing it as "nothing happened" because thr only thing you followed was the aftermath of 7th october. That's when your media started to talk. I closely followed every event, in the early 2000s and 2010s.

Put any group of men in those conditions and your practically engineering the uprising. No media coverage during the march of return where not a single soul was armed or crossed any red line yet were massacred nonetheless.


We don't share a ground for discussion because we don't see things from the same lense. You're the result of what you were exposed to and so am i.

>>507484614
>unhinged jew doesn't dare imagine a women touches his mutilated dick even in his most deranged fantasies
Checks out.

>>507485617
>jealous, goy? i'm jacking off with TWO screens!

>trying to fight a war by lying, Russia style.
>cope as a weapon
Russia who have lost their war having clown shoed it up, had their professional army, black sea navy and and nuclear airforce destroyed and are now as I told them all along heading for the planned “collapse” part of their cycle of aggression, loss, collapse. They lost 15,000 in afghanistan and collapsed. They’ve lost 750,000 minimum in ukraine to date. Russia is already goosed, Putin is Pute-tonium he’s killed Russia.
>Pute-tonium i like that one.
You can cope until the hole in your bum heals up but like Igor the liar found it’ll do you no good when your sportsball team are actually just shit at war.
>Iran are Poos?
Everyone hopes that Israel dies horribly but we are more likely to see the pushing up of Irans shit since the US, UK and EU are about to flatten Iran (oooooh yes they are) - you are experiencing the bit where the equipment is on its way. When it gets there iran will have a choice
A) let israel pommel iran genocidally without retaliating since everyone will be defending israel’s airspace & waters
B) get flattened by the big boys
And as far as i can tell israel has a massive death toll of a few.
>so
Be realistic, not all fanny, flannel and fartbox. This like Russia in Ukraine OP is experiencing “the greatest victory ever” of someone who’s actually getting marmalised and losing.
Pic: c’min to git’cha bricy lil’ a-holes
*dictatorships in the age of internet are a pain in the arse. 1984 mind control on social media. It’s bad enough here with globo subverting, without dictatorship brain slug fans wearing the globo boot on their faces (your leaders are infinitely corrupt, idiots, this was all planned) joining in.
>>507479045
Why what can russia do? Scare boomers boomers with memory of the times before we saw that the mighty russian bear is in fact a geriatric ferret with several cabbages sellotaped to it’s chest for bulk?

>>507488304
Your analysis is on point.
Iran's fate is sealed.

>trying to fight a war by lying, Russia style.
>cope as a weapon
Russia who have lost their war having clown shoed it up, had their professional army, black sea navy and and nuclear airforce destroyed and are now as I told them all along heading for the planned “collapse” part of their cycle of aggression, loss, collapse. They lost 15,000 in afghanistan and collapsed. They’ve lost 750,000 minimum in ukraine to date. Russia is already goosed, Putin is Pute-tonium he’s killed Russia.
>Pute-tonium i like that one.
You can cope until the hole in your bum heals up but like Igor the liar found it’ll do you no good when your sportsball team are actually just shit at war.
>Iran are Poos?
Everyone hopes that Israel dies horribly but we are more likely to see the pushing up of Irans shit since the US, UK and EU are about to flatten Iran (oooooh yes they are) - you are experiencing the bit where the equipment is on its way. When it gets there iran will have a choice
A) let israel pommel iran genocidally without retaliating since everyone will be defending israel’s airspace & waters
B) get flattened by the big boys
And as far as i can tell israel has a massive death toll of a few.
>so
Be realistic, not all fanny, flannel and fartbox. This is like Russia in Ukraine OP is experiencing “the greatest victory ever” of someone who’s actually getting marmalised and losing.
Pic: c’min to git’cha bricy lil’ a-holes
*dictatorships in the age of internet are a pain in the arse. 1984 mind control on social media. It’s bad enough here with globo subverting, without dictatorship brain slug fans wearing the globo boot on their faces (your leaders are infinitely corrupt, idiots, this was all planned) joining in.
>>507479045 #
Why what can russia do? Scare boomers boomers with memory of the times before we saw that the mighty russian bear is in fact a geriatric ferret with several cabbages sellotaped to it’s chest for bulk?

>>507488541
*double boomers. I’m not correcting that you don’t know if it’s a typo or not. The elephant of doubt it’s a war thing & induced like covid fever.

>>507469893
Iran too strong, israel cant win.
You cant outmanouver the mullahCHADS

>>507470411
>B2 bomber meme
Yep, they promised 9 bombers to diego garcia and only 6 were there. Then they returned after a few months of being parked at DG.

>>507488541
>Jewish schizopost
Lmao