Thread 507473657 - /pol/ [Archived: 1050 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: r1njYXykUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 4:04:21 PM No.507473657
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Why are all the conservative faggots who claim nuclear deterrence works suddenly saying Iran getting a nuke would be the end of the world?
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Anonymous ID: K7+z+h7hUnited States
6/15/2025, 4:05:43 PM No.507473777
>>507473657 (OP)
Israel's Samson Option makes that a very real possibility
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Anonymous ID: jyY4lB+aUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 4:05:59 PM No.507473804
Because koshervatives only exist to serve the (((agenda))).
Anonymous ID: r1njYXykUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 4:07:45 PM No.507473944
>>507473777
No country wants to commit suicide.
Start a nuclear war and everyone dies in 15 minutes.
To start a nuclear war you wouldn't just need a suicidal leader you'd need a whole suicidal chain of command. And it's more tempting for your general to just shoot you in the head rather than obey orders.
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Anonymous ID: vkRYb5xhSpain
6/15/2025, 4:08:09 PM No.507473979
>>507473657 (OP)
Iran having a nuke would means that Israel can't attack them as they did and so on Iran can keep funding proxies to attack Israel and therefore constant war.
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Anonymous ID: w4BicuVDUnited States
6/15/2025, 4:10:53 PM No.507474216
>>507473777
Sampson option is hilariously dumb
>Jewish state falls
>Most Jews live outside of Israel
>Nuke other countries including ones with lots of Jews
>Any remaining Jews are hunted down like animals
This would be a global 9/11 on steroids, Jews getting lynches in the streets, Jewesses getting raped in public and shot. It would make the holocaust look like a small massacre.
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Anonymous ID: phEQavnHUnited States
6/15/2025, 4:11:26 PM No.507474264
>>507473657 (OP)
Because no one thinks for themselves anymore. That's what progress means, is having others think for you. Of course MAD works. Of course its impossible to stop Iran from harnessing the atom. Of course Israel would think twice if Iran also had nukes.
Rather than blow up their country to the point we get another Taliban-run-Afghanistan down the line, we should lift Iranian sanctions, help them create safe nuclear energy, disband some of our neighboring bases, and show a genuine goodwill attitude towards keeping lasting peace in the region.
I say give every country nukes. Then either no one will go to war, or WW3 will give us a much-needed humbling.
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Anonymous ID: euF1gmJXUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 4:12:05 PM No.507474318
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because they can't invade and install a rothschild central bank
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6/15/2025, 4:15:54 PM No.507474643
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>>507474216

From the perspective of a nation it is highly silly. Would only make sense as a final distraction in case the string pullers are about to terminally lose control. It is not entirely implausible.
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Anonymous ID: djWar7GQGermany
6/15/2025, 4:19:47 PM No.507474952
>>507473944
>To start a nuclear war you wouldn't just need a suicidal leader you'd need a whole suicidal chain of command. And it's more tempting for your general to just shoot you in the head rather than obey orders.

lnot true, every major power with icbms and nuclear submarines does drills on a regular base to make sure this doesn't happen. there are russian, american and chinese servicemen who already "pushed the famous button" well knowing what will happen. the idea that one cog in the machine suddenly stops the whole process is wishful thinking
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Anonymous ID: bmb4K6ONUnited States
6/15/2025, 4:21:18 PM No.507475110
>>507473657 (OP)
They had been saying for years Iran is about to get nukes.
Anonymous ID: L6QXjoI+Canada
6/15/2025, 4:21:50 PM No.507475158
>>507474264
Assuming Israel had nukes, if Iran had them too, I think Iran would just nuke Israel as soon as possible. I really think they are that crazy. But neither of those countries are in NATO, so we should be relatively fine. Still the possibility of nuclear war in the middle east kind of sucks. It would be nice if they could wipe out all the Muslims though.
Anonymous ID: r1njYXykUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 4:23:33 PM No.507475313
>>507474952
The small cogs in the machinery might be tested on their obedience under realistic conditions, but not the generals and high-ups in command.

You'd need a lot of generals and politicians signing their own and their families death warrants to make a nuclear war happen. Since these people get to these positions after a long difficult ambitious career they will be more likely to murder the leader and start a coup than kill everyone in their own lives.
Anonymous ID: r1njYXykUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 4:24:35 PM No.507475393
>>507474643
Every nuclear armed country has a Samson Option even if they didn't put it on the table like Israel seems to want to.

Nuclear deterrence doesn't care. It just means that people generally don't want to become instant BBQ fuel.
Anonymous ID: r1njYXykUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 4:25:53 PM No.507475519
>>507474952
>the idea that one cog in the machine suddenly stops the whole process is wishful thinking
Also not only could that happen, it has happened.

https://www.historyhit.com/vasili-arkhipov-the-soviet-officer-who-averted-nuclear-war/
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Anonymous ID: K7+z+h7hUnited States
6/15/2025, 4:52:44 PM No.507477919
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>>507475519
Anonymous ID: GeaZ8gnWNorway
6/15/2025, 4:56:24 PM No.507478265
Its really really simple, Iran having nukes prevents Israel from being *the* regions hegemonic power. that's it. thats all it is.
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6/15/2025, 4:57:24 PM No.507478375
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>>507473657 (OP)
We should arm iran to ensure a balance of power in the middle east and M.A.D. if someone is actually dumb enough to launch a nuke.

If everyone has the ability to annihilate each other maybe they'll get round the negotiating table and start behaving like adults.
Anonymous ID: xXyKwvo6New Zealand
6/15/2025, 5:03:53 PM No.507478975
>>507473657 (OP)
mutts can't keep invading the middle east on behalf of israel if there's a nuclear deterrent so it's bad, okay!

>>507473979
exactly
Anonymous ID: kWxArtj4United States
6/15/2025, 5:04:31 PM No.507479031
>>507473944
>No country wants to commit suicide
Except jews because they are evil.