Thread 507547432

too much misinformation in threads, people posting dumb shit, makes me want to read the news rather than browse this place
I live 15 minutes by car from the recent iran missile strike hit in the oil refinery. woke up to the sirens 1 hour ago and I don't really feel sleepy anymore so I decided to stay up and shitpost

ask me anything

"what are israel's goals" I don't fucking know man I'm not netanyahu I'm just a dude that lives here
"are you scared of iran" nah not really, hezbullah did way more in 2006, this is a nothingburger so far
"is ww3 starting" nah
"are you hiding in the bunker" uh I have a room in my house with steel walls, that's the "bunker". it's just a normal ass room. I got my pc there and I can browse hentai and shit. when I hear sirens I just close the door

Shut up kike

>>507547432 (OP)
real talk i hope things de-escalate so we don’t get dragged in

>>507547432 (OP)
Zionist occupied Palestine vs Iran
ftfy*

>>507547432 (OP)
Is the weather nice

Are you or anyone else in your family thinking about leaving or at least taking a little vacation

Want to come stay in Florida for a couple months I have a spare room

>>507547432 (OP)
Good luck Chaim, I hope you avoid any drones/missiles and this shit fizzles out after a couple days until the next chimp out on both sides

>>507547432 (OP)
What is the deal with Israel hiding a lot of their military infrastructure inside of their civilian infrastructure?

Is it true all these wars are to keep Bibi out of jail ?

>>507547491
why are you hiding your flag?

>>507547793
weather is pretty good this week, not too hot not too cold

my family is having a birthday party for my brother tomorrow, gonna buy snacks today

thanks for the offer but our airports are closed, I think I'll just chill with my bros over here

>>507547848
thanks broski

>>507547884
all of israel's real military stuff is located in random spots in the negev desert in the south. source: I did my 3 years of service in the IDF in a combat unit as an officer.
you won't find it anywhere on google maps or other sources, there are very strict anti-internet regulations there, to the point that you can get jailed for connecting a civilian flashdrive to a military pc.
all the military stuff within cities is mostly just bases for people that are deemed physically or mentally unfit to participate in combat, and instead do other side tasks the military needs, like laundry, bookkeeping, etc.

>>507547982
I wouldn't be surprised if that's a big part of it. bibi is basically a mafia person who is pulling strings in his own favor. once this war is over and dust is settled, most people here would probably just focus on sending him to jail. he is not very liked in the Israeli community, by neither left wing or right wing people.
the only reason he's in power is because people do like his party (the Likud) and that's the party people vote for; but even people who want this party to be in power would rather see bibi behind bars.

>>507548919
>all the military stuff within cities is mostly just bases for people that are deemed physically or mentally unfit to participate in combat, and instead do other side tasks the military needs, like laundry, bookkeeping, etc.

Then why do I see rockets flying out of the city in these videos of the air strikes? Are they just the iron-dome rockets?

>>507547432 (OP)
Thanks for sharing
What are some things you don't like about Israel?

>>507548919
Blah blah blah. Get hit by a missile and die, kike.

>>507547432 (OP)
Thank you for your first hand account. Do people take off work when shit like this goes down? Are people on edge or are you all used to it?

>>507547432 (OP)
>I live 15 minutes by car
Everything is israel is 15 minustes drive by car kike

>>507547793
As a Central Floridian, South Floridians need to go back.

>>507549168
it's just automated AA defensive launchers, not the iron dome, but for legal reasons I'm not allowed to disclose any further information. tldr israel has more weapon systems than it's telling the world, the stuff you know that is publicly displayed is not the latest or greatest.

>>507549324
there are many things I don't like about israel, but most of them are things that would be the same in most western countries these days. people are too gay, I hate seeing pride flags in the street this month (I have much more conservative world views). feminism is cringe af, too many women fall into that bait at some early phase until they grow out of it and realize they just want to be a trad woman with a loving husband and children. there's too much corruption in higher up positions, rich people clearly abuse their power to find legal loopholes and make more money at the expense of regular working people, etc.

>>507549794
everyone's kinda used to it, no one really gives a fuck. so far, covid has inconvenienced everyday life more than any iranian missile threat
you're statistically more likely to get hit by a drunk driver than by a missile, and nobody is particularly scared to cross the road, it's the same vibe

most people do respect the authorities and do usually go into a safe room when sirens sound, and for those who have a shared safe room for multiple apartments, this usually ends up being an excuse to say hi to their neighbors and do a little friendly meetup

>>507550219
So the TLDR is you hide your missiles and jets inside your citizens apartment buildings. How are you not exactly like the terrorists you claim to be better than. Using civilians and shields.

>>507547432 (OP)
>Breaking News
Crimson Jihad is now a nuclear power

>>507550219
What was the hardest thing you had to do in your 3 years of service?

Do you have any info about the current conflict that isn't getting enough attention/coverage?

>>507547432 (OP)
Is the iron dome/AD in general still working decently well? Any signs of exhaustion?
Is there a lot of internal migration within Israel?

>>507550633
few questions:
1. did you survive?
2. are you praying for americans and canadians; those two are going through very stressful times watching you go through all of this.
3. do you think that president of peace, donald josephus trump, is next messiah?

thank you in advance for answering these very important questions

>>507547432 (OP)
>Breaking News
>Iran has issued demands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6QHFR2xhzk

>>507551009
hardest thing honestly depends on what you mean by hardest. some guys in my military unit were absolute retards and having to work with them was a pain in the ass. but this ended up being true in every job I had afterwards anyway, working with retards is a pain.

in terms of physical difficulty, my officer training was pretty rough, had to do navigation by the stars at 2am while running around with 40kg on my back uphill, was training for like 16 hours a day with 2 hours of sleep average and very tight small meals. but that stuff was fun for me.

info that isn't getting enough attention... I think mainly that people don't realize how this isn't israel vs iran, it's mostly netanyahu vs iranian regime. most civilians on both sides are completely uninvolved. nobody here knew this attack was going to happen, it's all very undercover until the last moment.

>>507551185
the iron dome is a system that is designed to intercept low flying rockets coming from gaza. it's unrelated to the systems that intercept iran's missiles. I doubt they're anywhere near exhaustion, the Israeli attack on Iran was planned to happen in April already and was simply postponed for 2 months. the IDF most likely already had a full count of the Iranian missiles, and has a defensive missile prepared for every single one before the Israeli attack started. Israel only fights wars it already knows it won after collecting full intel for months or years prior.

by internal migration do you mean people moving to another city? if yes, then the answer is no, most people don't give a damn and just go on about their lives normally, too lazy to do anything.

>>507551188
1. kebab
2. hummus
3. schnitzel

>>507547432 (OP)
>ask me anything
Do you have any sisters, cousins , neighbours , coworkers , classmates who look like picrel ? If so I'm more than willing to house her until this war is over. PS: I have enough room for multiple such Israeli citizens

>>507552514
my sister is already married

>>507552193
it sounds you are not taking my questions seriously while americans and canadians are suffering during this hardship

>>507547432 (OP)
Why don't you kill yourself?

>>507552884
shawarma falafel

>>507553060
but then I won't get to grab my popcorn and read your posts whenever there's a happening

why do people in israel still support netanyahu when it's obvious that he keeps starting these wars just to stay in power and stay out jail?

>>507550219
>rich people clearly abuse their power to find legal loopholes and make more money at the expense of regular working people
So jews are jewing each other too? Kek.

>>507547432 (OP)
>Hi, All
>too much misinformation in threads, people posting dumb shit
>the keck'n sirens woke me up >:[ and I can't sleepy so I decided to blog post
>AMA
SILENCE KIKE

>>507553326
They tried to get him out but he engineered the october 7th attacks to surpress the protests.

>>507547716
*Israel/Judea/Samaria vs Persian Khameneistan

>>507552193
>this isn't israel vs iran, it's mostly netanyahu vs iranian regime. most civilians on both sides are completely uninvolved

Makes sense. Good luck out there fren

>>507547432 (OP)
where is netanyahu?

>>507547432 (OP)
why do you live there

>>507552193
>the IDF most likely already had a full count of the Iranian missiles, and has a defensive missile prepared for every single one before the Israeli attack started. Israel only fights wars it already knows it won after collecting full intel for months or years prior.
pure copium. if russia couldn't take ukraine in their 3 day SMO, i don't think israel is going to take iran. no one truly knows how war is going to proceed once it's started.

you know that netanyahoo knew about the oct 7th attack right? obviously he let it happen to further his agenda. everything that has happened is due to him. do the israeli people not feel betrayed by this?
>let attacks happen
>justify war in gaza etc
>genocide of enemies
>playing the victim
>attack ANOTHER country while its still happening
>further play the victim
>try to rope america into the conflict
>openly make threats etc

are israelis too far gone to recognize these issues? are your people happy with being used in such a way, do they not recognize the position of insecurity, danger the leadership puts the citizens in?
what happens if the greatest ally turns its back on you?

>>507547432 (OP)
It would be more interesting to hear from an Iran bro. Everything kikes say is a lie and an act

>>507553326
>>507553539
unironically this

>>507554102
nice place, nice people, good food, high salaries
people like to blow stuff out of proportions but if you're looking at the numbers, I have a bigger chance to get mogged by a nigger in the usa or stabbed by a muslim immigrant in europe than getting hit by a missile in israel, and there are no niggers in israel, and israel's policy towards muslim immigrants is "drone strike". all things considered, life here is pretty great compared to other western country alternatives

>>507554360
but israel is not trying to take out iran? it only wants to get rid of a few specific individuals, and half of them already died on day1

>>507555104
I've heard the food makes American Jewish food look like a joke.

>>507554995
you know that more than 50% of the israeli population has voted to send netanyahu in jail, right? nobody likes this guy.

but, honestly, in times like this, I'm happy that he's the one in the position of power, because all the hate towards israel will be directed towards him, and it's like... cool? I'm happy with other people hating him because I hate him too.

a lot of people on /pol/ have absolutely zero idea about anything that happens here and have no context at all to any events. hamas has been firing rockets towards israel on an almost daily basis for over 7 years now. all of those rockets are funded by iran. people here have this delusional idea that israel is starting a war with hamas and iran recently, but in reality israel is ending something that was already happening for many years, just no one cared or knew about it until now because no one cares if arabs shoot rockets towards israel and they get intercepted by iron dome 99% of the time, nobody sees this as a problem. oct7 was just the "final straw", it wasn't the start, it was an event that triggered the end of something long and ongoing. I may not like bibi, but I do like the fact that he has an excuse to end hamas and iran's leadership once and for all.

>>507555675
friendly reminder that Netanyahu funded Hamas

>>507547432 (OP)
Did you see the Iron Dome working? If so did it get any?

>>507547432 (OP)
>Persia
Its Iran. I can see why Jews don't like that name.

>>507556511
not checking what's outside, too busy gaming on my pc and browsing shitposts while in queue for my next match

I hate muslims so much. Today I open twitter and elon pushed some "space" to my account. I click it and its a dozen brown muslims with british accents talking about how evil white people are and that iran needs nukes to defend themselves.

>>507547432 (OP)
Opion on orthadox jews and their attempt to bring about their end times and do you think they would help the Iranians?

>>507547432 (OP)
The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 left Japan in ruins but sparked a creative surge, birthing anime with Osamu Tezuka’s Astro Boy in 1952, a hopeful vision of technology and humanity. This art form evolved, branching into hentai, an explicit subgenre reflecting Japan’s complex postwar psyche. Ironically, decades later, a man in an underground bomb shelter—built to survive the very kind of destruction that catalyzed anime’s rise—huddles in the dim glow of a screen, lost in hentai’s exaggerated fantasies, oblivious to the apocalyptic echoes of history above.

>>507547432 (OP)
actually Fars vs the turk

>>507555675
How do you feel about the Talmud and its very specific and hateful remarks about the Goyim?
Raping a baby that is less than 3 years old sounds correct to you?
Also, can you denounce the Talmud for us?
Also, do you REALLY think it was 6 million?

>>507547432 (OP)
How do you feel about the opinion that there is no innocent adult in israel seeing as there is a draft for men AND women

>>507547432 (OP)
Did you have your dick sucked by the rabbi when you got snipped? how do you feel about the practice of sucking off newborn children after they get circumcised?

Also whats your thoughts on the ethicality of kosher slaughter?

>>507547715
sanest jew in Haifa

>>507547432 (OP)
>ask me anything

Whaat does your foreskin look like?
Do you like the taste of pork meat?
Are your anwsers to the two questions above any different from what a muslim subhuman would answer to them?

>>507547432 (OP)
How thick is the steel wall?
Are steel walls common in Israel
Does it include a steel roof or is it just for bullets?
I feel like a vault is a great idea but it cant be practical with weight

Gee Netanyahu seems so desperate that he waged a ward with Iran, I wonder why.

>>507547432 (OP)
Nigga you should get a gun and murder Satanyahu if you ever have a chance

>>507547432 (OP)
Blow it out your ass, kike
I'm looking forward to you getting turned into a puddle of glass

>>507547432 (OP)
How's it going Jew? Did you find out yet? Last I heard you were fucking around.

>>507547432 (OP)
>ask me anything
are you as fatigued by israel as the rest of the world is?
THANK YOU!

>>507557013
orthodox jews say a lot of weird shit, you can just safely ignore it. can't wait to vote to pass a law forcing them to do military service and leave their bubble

>>507557321
no one in israel cares about the talmud other than orthodox jews, who are a minority that is considered to be an insane cult by most israelis. I find it funny whenever people on 4chan who try to troll israel by saying stuff like "I denounce the talmud" thinking any israeli reading this board cares. that's like saying you denounce the book of mormons and expecting an average usa flag poster to get offended by it

do I really think the holocaust was the cause of 6 million jewish deaths? well, world war 2 was the cause of 7 million german deaths, 3 million japanese deaths, 25 million deaths in the soviet union, 20 million deaths in china, 6 million deaths in poland, 3 million deaths in india, half a million deaths in each of: italy, hungary, romania, usa, uk, france, greece, ethiopia, netherlands, czechoslovakia, one million deaths in yugoslavia...
I could go on but you get the idea. statistically speaking, I find it hard to believe every single one of those countries lied about their own deaths to equal extents, and just by looking at the numbers, 6 million jews dying across all of this seems like a very regular distribution

I think a lot of people don't realize just how fast people died in wars back then. there was no internet, most people were completely clueless about what they were going into, it was a slaughterhouse. try playing battlefield 1 or battlefield 5, within 10 minutes of gaming you'd have over 200 respawns on each team, that's pretty accurate to what happened in real life except people didn't respawn, they just died and then new ones came and died too

This is the most civilized thread in /pol/ history.

>>507558533
slipped under the glowies radar

>>507557475
using terms like innocent in the context of war is gay leftist brainwashing by people who probably majored in gender studies in university

the word innocent only means anything within the context of a single society which is trying to conform to the same law system. when you have a war between two or more societies with different legal systems, the word has no meaning

there are no innocents in war. only winners and losers
you chose to bear a nazi flag, so I can understand you like to sympathize with losers

>>507557858
I'm uncut
pork is ok I guess? I still prefer chicken and smoked salmon
I don't know what muslims would answer since I'm not one

>>507557897
pretty damn thick, steel in all directions, it won't survive a direct missile hit but if it hits anywhere near it (e.g. in my living room) I'll be just fine inside
all houses and apartments are legally required to have at least one safe room due to a law that was passed several years ago, by now nearly all places have them

>>507547432 (OP)
Why does it amuse you so much to see babies burned alive?

>>507558205
sorry, I'm a law abiding citizen, I'll do my part by casting a vote next election

>>507558238
going great, every time israel does anything I make sure to check out /pol/ and see muzzies cope and seethe, it really makes me happy and have more pride in my country. thank you for your tears mate, cheers

>>507558453
probably even more than the rest of the world, since I get to see local news too. I'm so tired of it. Israel did this Israel did that blah blah. the reality is: most of this stuff is a nothingburger that gets blown out of proportions. other parts of the world have way more things happening, but people seem to care about Israel like 10000% times more compared to any other place. it's all so tiring

>>507547432 (OP)
What do you hear about the Iranian views of their own government if anything? Military action, especially defensive (yes I know Iranian proxies are anything but) would seem to bolster support for their government and the Israeli strikes would backfire in that regard unless you believe it really is an existential threat. Do you really take the "Death to Israel and Death to America" stuff seriously? Maybe it is, I don't know but I know they've been saying that for decades and nothing happens.

Any idea how equipped the Israeli military is to meaningfully stop the Iranian nuclear program? They've been at it for years and no doubt have underground facilities that are immune to air attack. They're going to get nukes and maybe even already have them. If Indians, Pakis, and Norks can build them, they can't be that hard to make. The Iranians don't strike me as crazier than them.

You mentioned you were conservative and most Jews don't follow the Talmud but the fact is the thought-leaders in degeneracy in the US are Jewish. How do conservative Jews view these people? Are they still your "guys" and you would sneak them out if push came to shove or would it be okay if they faced the wall.

>>507559934
No tears, just a great day away from Pissrael. A country that's the refuge of pedophiles.

>>507547432 (OP)
>a room in my house with steel walls
How is this not an oversized lightning rod shaped like a cube?
Have you tested it by filling with a nice gas, say Zyklon B, and seeing how well it contains it with you inside?

>>507559529
Are you a jew if you're uncut?

>>507560401
Nvm, I mean, houses all around the world have copper pipes running through them with higher conductivity, so I guess you should just proceed to figuring out some other way to kys.
This one's clearly not effective.

>>507560178
Different iranians have different views of their government, it's millions of people, there's a lot of diversity. But I've seen countless people from iran showing great dissatisfaction with their government and wanting to become more of a western country.

I'm not sure what you mean by "backfire". Israel attacking Iran isn't going to make anyone who didn't want to attack Israel suddenly want to attack Israel. If anything, they'd just be more afraid now, knowing they'll likely meet the same fate hamas, hezbollah, and now also iranian top brass are meeting.

"saying that for decades and nothing happens." is not true. stuff happens. hezbollah and hamas have been regularly firing rockets into israel's territory, which has been both a regular inconvenience and also cost some people their lives. none of this would have been possible without Iran funding it regularly. it only feels like "nothing happens for decades" for people that don't live in Israel, because world media doesn't cover it, because small arab terrorist groups shooting missiles into israel which get mostly intercepted by iron dome and then israel not retaliating does not make for a good news story.

Israel should be more than enough equipped to stop an Iranian program, nuclear or not. mainly because Israel has spies with inside info, which is a huge advantage compared to other similar examples.

As for usa jews... look. I assume you're christian. Does that mean you like all christian people? do you love jeff bezos? do you love warren buffet? would you "sneak them out" if they needed help just because they share a religious with you...? I think you get the point. jewish people are not a hive mind. everybody has their own opinions and preferences. the average blue collar jewish worker has exactly the same opinions as the average blue collar christian worker. no one really cares if someone is jewish or christian or hindi or whatever when they form an opinion on them.

>>507561489
>wanting to become more of a western country.
You mean they want to be anally raped by pedophile kikes until they bleed from the ass and have everything stolen from them leaving their children with absolutely no future?
Are you sure you didn't misinterpret something?
Sounds like a biased translation, MEMRI.

>>507547432 (OP)
>browse hentai

I am a Jew and I am constantly horny for Jewess pussy Ama

>>507555621
Israel has very good food and the street falafel, sabich, etc isn't very expensive.

>>507562094
>>507547432 (OP)
Can both of you kikes kys?

>>507562094
Have you contracted herpes from them yet, or are you just an incel who hasn't been able to satisfy his love of being cucked and getting STDs?

>>507547432 (OP)

Is WW3 starting. We are in WW3 already. Multi factet conflicts via proxy and indirect war, with a real risk of escalation and it becoming larger conflicts.

Is it this reason the Americans haven't involved themselves directly, yet? But I hope the French do. It makes it interesting.

Any war has only just started. How does it end. Israel cannot stop now without completing its objective. Preventing extremists with nukes that are faster aimed armed or fired at it. There is no deal in war. Any blood remains for much longer.

In any event war continues until it ends

>>507561489
Yes I am a Christian. And I would be happy for all the bad ones to be out of society. But there isn't the same ethnic and historical solidarity that Jews have. You're right, there are no doubt millions of opinions, but what is yours? Personally, I want the punishment for public Christian figures who do bad things to be even more severe but I might have a different opinion if they were related to me and it seems like that kind of tribal loyalty might be more prevalent among Jews. I mean, I remember when that American kid who put gum on a train in Singapore was sentenced to caning and I felt a strong "you can't do that to an American" feeling and wanted the US to punish Singapore for enforcing their own laws in their own country.

By backfire I mean turn a lot of moderates who maybe didn't like Israel or the Iranian government either to back their government more. In the US, the broad feeling among Republicans prior to 9/11 was non-interventionist and after it was world police time. Wag the dog as they used to say here. Sometimes it works for a time. Maybe Bibi's run out of luck with this one. What do you think?

You sound pretty confident about being able to stop the Iranian nuclear program and no doubt the strikes, assassinations, and things like Stuxnet have hampered it but given an absolute backwater like North Korea can get it done, it seems like a when, not if, situation unless they get Saddam/Ghaddafi'd which is probably why they aren't going to give up.

Don't get me wrong, I know Hezbollah and Hamas are constantly firing rockets with most getting intercepted. But it doesn't meaningfully affect Israel. That's what I mean by nothing happens. They constantly shout about wiping Israel off the face of the map but they've been doing that for over fifty years and nothing happens. Different from when the Arabs and Egyptians try to do it but they don't seem to be a threat anymore.

>>507555675
Haha yeah Hamas just decided to lob rockets at your illegitimate terror state for fun. Nothing has happened the past 60 years, Israel hasn't genocided Palestinians since it's inception at all!

Good pilpul, kike.

>>507562778
for there to be a world war, you'd need to have multiple nations banding together to defeat multiple other nations who also banded together. nothing israel does is leading the world into a world war. russia vs ukraine+[everybody else] is the closest thing to a world war right now and has been for years. russia choosing to not help iran shows that they're not interested in escalating into a world war, and if they aren't, it's very unlikely anybody else will.

>>507563697
>it seems like that kind of tribal loyalty might be more prevalent among Jews
this is only something you think because you've been browsing /pol/ too much who keep saying jews did this jews did that as if every single jew supports every single action by every single other jew. there is zero tribal loyalty between jewish people in real life, no one cares if you're jewish or not, people judge each other based on their actions.
the most unifying factor jewish people have is unironically their mutual enemies. if you're a non-jew but you hate terror organizations like hamas, hezbollah, etc, most jewish people will see you as an equal

>backfire
I think by this point, everyone who is relevant has already made up their minds long ago about which side they're on, and nothing neither side does will change anybody's mind.

>north korea
they sent thousands of troops to fight for russia in ukraine and they all got massacred by drones within one day while using antique war tactics that weren't relevant for 50+ years. if NK joining iran is what israel has to worry about, then israel has nothing to worry about.

>hamas and hezbollah not a real threat
I mean, yeah, they were not a real threat, but oct7 changed things. it elevated the israeli population's perception of them from a "not a real threat" into "maybe they can be a threat". and this was enough to stir things into where we are today:
mohammed sinwar: ack
hassan nasrallah: ack
ali khamenei: you're next

>>507566458
Thank you for posting the only relevant non retarded commentary on this shit tier board.

I will say that in regards to prior comments referring to "Most Israelis not caring about who you are and basing their views on you in relation to your actions as a person" that I find this to be true of most educated people throughout the world. However, among the lesser educated poorer classes in Arab nations I did find a high degree of fanaticism, as well as a state enforced hatred of Israel (and ironically Palestine).

It's highly unfortunate that a storm of both massive Muslim migration and the "western problems" of feminism has produced a new class of "right winger" who ardently supports goatfucker regimes on the basis of "Fuck Da Jooz". It's a total regression of right wing thinking and demonstrates our drift towards more monkey tier reactionary policies rather than any grand plan to actually save and improve the west.

Even if people here "hekkin hate Israel", taking the side of Iran as a westerner is fucking moronic.

>>507566458
Not saying every single Jew supports every other Jew, just that it might be a tendency. It seems a natural thing at least among the orthodox types to see all non-orthodox Jews as a mutual enemy. Or maybe even normal Jews seeing non-Jews as an enemy. Same dynamic with Muslims and even Christians.

Well it was nice chatting. If you ever capture video, please stick it on a tripod. War is terrible and all and I get that we get to see these missile launches, intercepts, and hits from all kinds of angles and in near realtime but the shaky footage is annoying.

Hopefully this war ends soon and your strikes in Iran are effective (but mainly because I want to see the USN swat down the Houthis). And to my fellow /pol/tards, yes I denounce the Talmud.

>>507547432 (OP)
are you kikes finally going to vote the warmongering midget out of office?

>>507547432 (OP)
please aim a webcam south
it looks like you have some drones incoming

>>507547432 (OP)
Kill yourself rat