Why can't Iran have nuclear weapons?

>>507666926 (OP)
Nukes are fake.

>>507667047
>Nukes are fake.
https://old.bitchute.com/channel/QzpWMcr5m4OZ/

>>507666926 (OP)
ITS AN ISLAMIC THEOCRACY THAT PREACHES JIHAD

>>507666926 (OP)
Unlike every other race and religion their culture promotes jihad, they will sacrifice everyone. I hate kikes too, but that's not a difficult concept to understand.

>>507667373
Why is Israel allowed to have nukes?

>>507666926 (OP)
Why should they have one? What are they going to do with it? Never use it? Then why do they need it? Then what? Wait for some other muslim sandnigger gang to take over the country and get their hands on it.

>>507667589
To defend from Israeli attacks.

>>507667457
They shouldnt either, but even if they did, (they do), they dont believe in jihad? Also not a difficult concept to understand. Russia and china have nukes and the world doesnt freak out because they're not tempted to use them the moment they obtain them to destroy their enemies at any cost and cause human extinction.

How the fuck are you stupid niggers still not getting this.

>>507667664
Nigger kys with that bullshit. It's not a shield. And in primitive mystic cult shitty country hands it's a global safety risk.

>>507667664
Israel doesnt believe in jihad you fucking retard. If muslims / islam got rid of the belief in jihad, i wouldnt give a shit if they had nukes.

>>507666926 (OP)
Idk if anyone shouldn't have nukes, it's india

>>507668017
>What is MAD?
>>507668247
Israel does believe in Greater Israel and is attacking multiple countries.

>>507668247
Actually even better - as proof, saudi arabia has nukes if im not mistaken and they're not on the friendliest terms with israel, but they live in a post jihad society, proving islamic countries CAN own nuclear capable technology, just not ones that literally believe in usng them the MOMENT they get them without giving a fuck about the rest of the planet.

>>507666926 (OP)
Why do his tweets read as though they were written by a 10 year old who goes to school on the short bus?

>>507668416
they should get their shit pushed in, but not at the expense of your retarded end of the world wishing by giving people who believe in JIHAD nuclear weapons

As long as they dont believe in sacrificing the rest of the world, i dont care if they have nukes, i shouldnt have to keep repeating this shit.

>>507667373
>they will sacrifice everyone
how can you know this?
From what I've seen they are pretty cautious about even just retaliating against Israel's bold attacks. If they don't want a war here, why would they want to be glassed from mutually assured destruction? Are they just a culture made up entirely of suicide bombers?

>>507668716
Can you show where they said they will attack everyone as soon as they get nukes?

>>507668754
I dont give a fuck what you think you know. They're a people who believe in being willing to blow themselves up, for religious reasons, and that would also include nukes. No jihad = perfectly ok to have nuclear deterrents. Their history is why they shouldnt fucking have them.

Russia had nukes and almost launched them once, but because they were white christian god fearing men with a conscious, they saved the world from nuclear Armageddon

fucking sand niggers wouldnt hesitate the only reason i dont give a fuck if kikes have nukes is because they hesitate to use them even if they're bombed or backed into a corner.

>>507668841
i mean, if you want a large compendium of them saying shit like "STRAP ME TO THE BOMB AND FLY ME INTO TEL-AVIV" or a comprehensive list of suicide bombings, its not that hard to find to prove they dont care about their lives or the lives of innocents and believe that jihad grants them everlasting life in the afterlife.

You want people like that to have nukes? are you a sandnigger? Answer the question.

>>507666926 (OP)
israel has the right to exist therefore iran must be destroyed. no the opposite doesnt work goy

>>507669126
sounds like retarded racist bullshit trying to convince me we gotta fight Israel's war because the people they they consider to be animals are supposedly mindless suicidal doomsday orcs.
Not my problem, jew.

>>507666926 (OP)
First rule of US foreign policy: it's okay when we do it, but it's not okay when other people do it.

>>507668841
To be clear, i wouldnt want the vikings to have nukes either because they believe similar shit to fucking jihad, but they're not AROUND anymore.

>>507669339
Show me suicide bombers from Iran.

>>507666926 (OP)
because j***

>>507667373
oh no, so give them 1 nuke and then blast them when they use it.

>>507669538
No, I hope they all die, but israel wont fucking take us out with them if they lose a conventional war, those mother fuckers absolutely would.

if we just keep saying no to helping israel even after they lose a conventional war, sure, we might look bad, but idgaf, no dying for isreal.

But im also not ok with dying just to "play fair" fuck you you stupid fucking sand nigger.

>>507667925
>they dont believe in jihad
Unfortunately what they do believe in is far worse.

>>507669624
Answer my question, are you a sand nigger

>>507669888
No. Answer my question. Where are the so called suicide bombers from Iran?

>>507666926 (OP)
Because it’s the same old playbook. Every time someone gets close they say “No, they can’t have them” They did it with Pakistani and now the Pakis have had nukes for 20 some odd years, even though they live right next to an enemy. Israel wants hegemony in the Middle East, thats all.

>>507669822
Than instantly using nukes? sure. I mean, white replacement because they believe they're gods chosen people so they want an entire planet of slaves that they call goyim is why im completely ok with them being wiped off the face of the earth along with all of the middle east too, but the kikes wont fucking bring us along with them if they lose in a conventional war.

No nukes for jihadists, period.

>>507669981
Literally just google you fucking retard

>>507669805
Conventional wars dont happen if both sides have nukes. They are a peacemaker more than anything. India and Pakistan are mortal enemies right next to eachother with them - with Pakistan also believing in Jihad - yet they do not ever fight wars against eachother anymore. Neither would Iran, it's hysterical to think we HAVE to do this war

>>507670194
I did. Didn't find any. In fact, I find suicide bombings AGAINST Iran.

As long as you believe in jihad, no nukes. Thats like giving a fucking toddler a handgun, youd have to be fucking stupid. Holy christ I cant believe how fucking stupid you people are. If yu want a war, keep it conventional but fucking christ giving them nukes is the perfect thing for you nothing ever happens fags to jerk off to

someone WILL get nuked. Its like giving fucking old vikings nukes, they wouldnt hesitate

I dont get how you are ok with giving NUCLEAR WEAPONS to people whos religion promotes death by suicide to take out your enemies as a way to reach the kingdom - is a good idea.

Explain to me how its a good idea. I'll wait. And dont say self defense, what, are they gonna use a nuke to....nuke another nuke out of the sky?

>>507666926 (OP)
because they might actually use them. They have a religious motivation where even the retaliation totally killing them 100% wouldn't deter them because dying in war for them just makes them martyrs and guarantees them better things in heaven according to their beliefs.

>>507669805
nice try faggot.
TOTAL KIKE DEATH
VICTORY TO IRAN

>>507670280
>Conventional wars dont happen if both sides have nukes.
YEAH, THEY HAVE NUCLEAR WAR INSTEAD, RETARD, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LIKE ISLAM / MUSLIMS WHO BELIEVE IN DEATH BY MARTYRDOM AS A RELIGIOUS BELIEF.

HOW ARE YOU THIS DENSE. Im so done trying to convince people.

Can we just nuke the entire fucking middle east and get it over with, in fact, fuck it, lets just have Armageddon after all, at least peoples genetics like yours and >>507670329 will never get a chance to populate again.

>>507670915
saying I hope they all die means I hope they all die

>>507666926 (OP)
IT'S NOT ABOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS

IT'S ABOUT IRAN GIVING UP IT'S CIVIL NUCLEAR ENERGY PROGRAM IN IT'S ENTIRETY

>>507671063
Where and how, which facilities, which policies with it, and signed off on by who exactly.

>>507670411
what about Pakistan, they are also hardcore religious muslims and have nukes

>>507666926 (OP)
Because Israel said so and they have dirt on Trump apparently so he's backing them

>>507667373
>Pissraeli jihad
Alex, that would be "What is theKkadg Samson Option?".

>>507670915
You know, only kikes trying to hide they're kikes say shit like this. I hope you all burn to death, you and iran.

>>507670977
Because only kikes having nukes in the ME clearly isn’t leading to peace. Kikes just steamroll everything and kill everyone.

>>507671307
Learn to type you fucking ESL

>>507667373
pakistan has nukes though

>>507666926 (OP)
Because these just can't, okay??

It’s not about the nukes it’s probably more so about one of the 6,000 technological patents that have been classified by order of the US government as early as 2017. You know, the telepathic BCI patents they use to weaponize mental illness, manufacture mass shooters, conduct total thought espionage on the entire population, and basically play God while presenting you theater.

>>507670636
>whos religion promotes death by suicide
that is a pretty radical thing to believe in
It says suicide bombings are not considered religiously permissible by the ayatollah of Iran or other clerics like him, says that publicly at least.

>>507671187
Fuck off nigger. Iran has no nukes and the negotiations are all about totally dismantling Iran's civil nuclear program and not allowing any enrichment on Iranian soil, not even the 3.6% for fuel.

>>507671376
The UAE and Saudi arabia would like a word with you, retard. Also, I dont think they should have nukes either but they're not willing to USE THEM IN A JIHAD ATTACK AND KICK OFF WW3 JUST BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO DIE IN THEIR WARS.

You know what jihad is, right?

>>507670977
Samson Option. Kikes have it too.

>>507666926 (OP)
Because the more countries that have nuclear deterrence to prevent special military operations from doing a regime change and passing gay marriage laws in their country, the weaker the evil american globohomo empire becomes.

>>507671253
DOES PAKISTAN HAVE AN IMAM AS THEIR SUPREME LEADER

THE AYATOLLAH OF IRAN PREACHES JIHAD

>>507671414
Yeah but they're a post jihad society for christ sakes. Just no jihad bullshit. Iran, Iraq, afganistan, and a few others still have ridiculous amounts of viking-tier suicidal retards.

The "deal" that trump demanded from them was ludicrous, and deliberately designed to sabatoge negotiations.
He wad demanding Iran give up most of their missiles, and TOTALLY end enrichment, even the peaceful level they had done for decades without problems.

This would have rendered Iran completely defenseless and there was no way they would agree to that. In other words, the negotiations that Trump is shouting about were DESIGNED to fall apart.

>>507666926 (OP)
for, uh, reasons you anti semite chud

>>507667373
Pro gun control argument. Glownigger spotted.

>>507667184
Pakistan has nukes
Israel is a Theocracy
>noooo they vote for differing Jewish-faith based parties iiiitsnoooot

>>507670977
>YEAH, THEY HAVE NUCLEAR WAR INSTEAD,
No, they don't. How are you this dense? One would have already happened.
they just don't have a war, or they have a proxy war instead

>>507666926 (OP)
Why would you want any nation aside from your own having nukes?

>>507671662
Kim jong UN says he's gonna destroy you.
He hasn't done it yet.

>>507666926 (OP)
Because it's the last major "enemy" that any nation can slap around and go We're #1. Having Nukes complicates that. I mean I'm keeping an eye on Romania and that entire bloc area because it looks like it's Ukraine 2.0 but Iran is the last big one.

>>507666926 (OP)
Because they are allies with the US
And they don't chant "death to america"
this is easy to understand if you're not a muslim
>Pakistan has nukes
This is also a mistake. Muslims should never be in possession of nuclear weapons.

>>507667925
I can understand Irans perspective tho.
The allies invaded Iran during ww2 for no fucking reason other than looting their oil and then pretend like it was only Germany doing just that.

Then their self-proclaimed arch enemy achieves nuclear weapons despite the fact that they shouldnt have any.

Then in 2003, their neighbour got invaded for bullshit reason

Now they're being bombed to shit specifically because they dont have nuclear weapons.

I think even Ukraine regrets giving up their nuclear weapons at this point. Any deal with Iran should include Israel destroying their own nuclear arsenal. It would be a fair deal. This is just geopolitical bullying by the self-proclaimed "good guys".

Israel could not bomb Iran without the risk of a nuclear counterstrike if Iran had a functional nuclear arsenal

>>507671625
I dont give a shit. Its not a religious decree by their more extreme groups. Talk to saudi arabia or pakistan.

You people are all idiots who WANT nuclear war. This thread confirms it. And you know it will happen because those fucking kikes over in isreal will poke the hornets nest as if to say 'HUH, HUH, I DARE YOU, NUKE US, OUR BIG BROTHER AMERICA WILL BEAT YOU UP" and no the fuck Im not dying for israel, and then you'll all end up nuked when they jihad the fuck out of israel, israel fires back, and then everyone fires.

>>507671662
Even if he really murderously wanted to, he can't get away with nuking anyone else without getting nuked back, so I don't know what you're so afraid of. So he's absolutely insane comic book villain and he'll do it anyway? Get a fucking grip man

>>507666926 (OP)
What if we bombed Iran, and Israel?

>>507666926 (OP)
Because it would prevent regime change.. nobody wants the IRGC in charge there forever they’re abunch of little bitches

>>507671733
That's the point. Think about it from ZOG perspective. You want your competitors to obey deals that weaken them and give you leverage over them so you can maintain your position.
>be USA
>commit war crimes
>pass laws making war crimes illegal afterward
>be USA
>nuke countries
>make deals with them so they don't make nukes
>be USA
>claim to have free capitalist market when you are succeeding
>pass tariffs and ban imports from foreign nations once they start to outcompete your domestic product based purely on merit. (See the USA intentionally destroying Japan's economy in the 80's)

>>507666926 (OP)

Why do people create threads like these? Everyone in the world knows it's because they are the threat to the rulers Israel (the ruler of US which is the worlds superpower when it comes to war and who have no compunction about using that power.

>>507671407
>20 pbtid
Your Mossad, jew, js the largest terrorist group on the planet.

>>507668017
>It's not a shield
When was the last time NK was bombed?
Oh, never.

>>507672072
israel could not bomb iran period with nukes, they know and CARE ABOUT what would happen to the rest of the world. they NEED us because its part of their religion to turn us all into fucking goyim slaves, iran would just not give a shit about the rest of the world.

>>507666926 (OP)
>Why
The reason is that if they have nuclear weapons israel can't attack them.

>>507672099
That would be for the fucking best, all the worlds countries should come together in a secret meeting EXCEPT for those assholes and just agree to nuke them both out of existence so we can fucking breath easy for a few decades

>>507669339
Ive thought for over a decade that Iran having a nuke would secure peace in the region.

>>507672282
HAVING A COUPLE NUKES DOESNT PREVENT AN ATTACK ANYWAY

Also Skullface was right
English should be eliminated, and everyone should have nukes.
>but ur typing english right now
exactly the point. Gaddafi should never have quit his nuclear program. Nortj Korea was right to pursue it. Austria should have nukes, Hungary too etc.

>>507672229
Im not a fucking jew, I just came out of a thread on /a/ arguing with retards so Im worked up kek

>>507672462
>HAVING A COUPLE NUKES DOESNT PREVENT AN ATTACK
How many times gas North Korea been attacked?

>>507666926 (OP)

Because they keep chanting "death to America", "death to Israel" every 5 minutes.

America and Israel would have to be regarded to allow them to get the means to actually kill them.

With normal human beings, you can always count on "mutual assured destruction" as a hard stop, but the sand people are a death cult that purposely gets their people killed so they can brag about how many "martyrs" they have, so you can't trust them to not nuke you, even if it's 100% sure you will kill them all in return.

>>507672477
Nice try jewboy.

>>507672462
We can only hope surrendering does

>>507672525
THE NIGHT IS YOUNG

PACIFIC HASNT GONE HOT YET

>>507672413
bro every muslim country surrounding them has nukes and they're the ones who're kinda past the whole jihad thing yet theres still no fucking peace in he region, it wouldnt change shit you smoothbrain tub of lard.

>>507672528
>what is the Samson option?

Seriously I think this should be the official position of /pol/.
>>507672099

>>507667373
>>507667184
Where are all the Shia Jihadis?

>>507672528
by that logic the Uk should nuke you. You attacked british territory more often in the last 50 years then Iran attacked anyone unprovoked

>>507672578
ok jew

>>507668716
Like Pakistan?

>>507669126
Name 1 Iranian suicide bomber

>>507672749
Show flag

>>507672528
Death to america.
Nukes are over exaggerated in their capabilities. The worst that would happen is maybe part of jew york or commiefornia gets destroyed which is no real loss to the rest of the country. Hollywood has brainwashed people into believing nuclear missiles are a magical technology that can destroy continents. It's so hyperbolic I'm starting to unironically believe they were never real to begin with. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just hit with large TNT bombs.

>>507672813
Show flag.

NON-PROLIFERATION FAILED
LET IRAN HAVE THE ATOM BOMB
IGNORE ISRAEL
IGNORE THE MILITARY

>>507666926 (OP)
Because their government can't go five minutes without saying they want to nuke someone and death to _______

>>507666926 (OP)
The Nuclear is club is basically "We're gonna keep everyone out but if you do somehow get them then you're in." I don't see anyone bombing North Korea.

When can we sign up to help bomb Iran?

>>507673219
yeah but north korea also doesnt practice a fucking religion that promotes suicide to destroy your enemies

>>507668364
They could really clean up their country if they built nuclear missile type silos in the cities for the populace to shit into, or at the end of the shitting streets

>>507673247
bro what is your problem

why do you people all want fucking war

>>507672672
REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS GUY

THE IRANIAN PROXY MILITIAS ARE JIHADIST

>>507672728
I'm advocating for bombing Israel.

>>507673488
The whole world should nuke Israel and then we will achieve world peace

>>507666926 (OP)
It probably doesn't matter much for the US but given the choice it's better if they don't have them.

Iran has the ability to launch sattelites so it's not too far to put a nook on one of those rockets and have an ICBM. (if I were them I'd just smuggle it - seems easier and cheaper). I mean a greater power might conceivably egg Iran into shooting one off at somebody A nookular armed Iran would be an annoying tool for someone else to wield.

They can raise a ruckus and nobody can do anything about it or take proper revenge if they had a nook.

Now soon enough everybody and their brother will have nooks if they don't already, but if there's no real cost in destroying Iran's nooks then they should be gone, even if you don't give AF about Israel. It's like you don't hand a knife to a kidnerdgardener.

It's someone else's kid and you don't know anyone at their school, so you're not gonna risk blood or treasure on taking the knife away, but if it's simple to just grab it why not?

>>507672749
>>507672012
>>507671782
>paki bases are being used against iran by US
>paki army was called to kill palestinians
>paki were used as base against afghanistan
pakistan was created by same people that created israel. Its a kike state not a muslim.

GET RID OF THE CRAZY MULLAHS, NO NIKES BEFORE THAT

>>507666926 (OP)
Because Islam forbids its use.

>>507673589
>>507673488
we would all have to fucking secretly agree to it so they dont know, them and all of the middle east too, turn it into a fucking gigantic wave pool or something (UAE and pakistan and saudi arabia are chill though so they're fine) because a lot of them all have fucking jewish blood / genetics and a lot of fucked genetics involving incest.

But that'll never happen, so how about just fucking stop all killing each other and acting like savage niggers.

>>507669126
>and then for no reason at all everyone voted for hitler

>>507670977
Why are they more deserving of getting annihilated than the West? I don't see the middle east parading around a bunch of degenerate rainbow tranny faggotry and feminism bullshit

>>507673732
uh, what

>>507666926 (OP)
Know a really stupid kid? Letting Iran have nukes is like giving that stupid kid a loaded gun and some meth then turning him loose.

>>507666926 (OP)
It would be serious obstacle total aryan death and therefore antisemitic.

>>507674010
not wanting to die for israel sure has a weird rabbithole

>>507674057
Wow you just described the USA(the only country to actually drop nukes annihilate 2 cities which also happens to be run by a bunch of coke-snorting pedophiles)

>>507674024
uh, israel is the gayest country on earth and last time I checked they're part of the fucking middle east

>>507666926 (OP)
I can't read this with a straight face, it reads like a warning from a reddit or discord mod

He sounds like a baby playing with a toy called "nuclear weapon" and Iran is another baby, and baby Trump is refusing to share the toy with baby Iran. I'm sure there is a special joy in having this unique weapon, but you know what they say about power.
Anyway, baby Trump and baby Netanyahu both need to learn to share. They act like babies, or at best, ten year old boys.
Non-proliferation failed. The reality based community failed. In its place we have anxiety and paranoia. That's all Netanyahu and now Trump bring to the table, their potential for irrational behavior.
Let Iran have the atom bomb. Fear of a nuclear armed Iran is ridiculous. In fact, it may help the USA a great deal by forcing Americans to reevaluate Iranian history since Operation Ajax. We will find that the operation was not in American interests or democratic interests, but it was in the interests of the British monarchy, the King and Queen of the UK.
A nuclear armed Iran is good for democracy and the liberal tradition. A nuclear armed Iran means upending Israel and the monarchs of Saudi Arabia and the UK.
America should lead the way by establishing an industrial, nuclear, military, scientific, and cultural exchange where the USA and Iran can lead the world to a brighter future!

>>507666926 (OP)
wait till you find out its actually Israel with the nuke

>>507674299
The only one aligned with the West. Yes, they need to go to

>>507674232
Isn't it basically at the point where we could sell the kikes a b2 bomber and a few bunker busters and have one of them finish off Irans nooks?

That's just selling something.

Trump didnt greenlight the attacks but he fucking allowed them to happen, Trump said no more fucking wars and thats what i fucking want. You people frustrate me so much sometimes.

>>507666926 (OP)
Because then the world powers would have to consider them in world affairs.

>>507674463
idk, but its all getting tiresome, and just yet another fucking country having nukes, whether israel or iran is just more fucking stress that I have to worry about when trying to raise a fucking child, i have to worry about them dying in nuclear hellfire because of a bunch of suicidal pricks like you faggots.

>>507667589
>What are they going to do with it? Never use it?

Most countries with nukes never use them (only the US has). The idea is if you have nukes and the other guy has nukes, neither one of you will fuck with the other.

>>507674748
Yeah unless one of them has large sections of their society that actually believe in jihad and have violent regime change regularly.

>>507667925
>they dont believe in jihad?
they believe in jewish jihad where if things don't go their way all of a sudden they have plans drawn up to kill the rest of us too
a literal terrorist state projecting as usual that others are terrorist states
typical

>>507670845
and the jews don't have a religious motivation? get real

>>507674918
Thats called the samson option. Islamic jihad is strike first, regardless if things are going your way or not.

Look at UAE, Saudi arabia, or pakistan, they're all post jihad societies. christ, look at north korea, they dont believe in islam, sure, but still nobody fucks with them because we dont have to worry about them just firing off shit to destroy their enemies for allah (it also helps those countries dont have violent regime change)

Not all fucking ideas or religions are equal. even if kikes are vile disgusting rats that projectile vomit on people, they're not nuking people in the name of a god because they believe they'll receive divine gifts.

>>507674918
Oh also I dont want israel having nukes either because of the samson option shit but we cant prove those faggots have nukes and they definitely wont let us check.

I trust countries like USA or RUSSIA having nukes. Russia literally refused to nuke us back when they thought nukes were flying their way.

>>507674889
Iran doesn't seem that unstable. Just being super religious doesn't automatically make a person irrational or insane. Well, maybe on some things, but not common sense stuff like "dont destroy your own country in a nuclear exchange"

Let Iran have the atom bomb and let us all rejoice in a shared love for science and the natural world, isn't it a thing of wonder!

>>507674690
Pissant countries are going to have nooks. We can't go to war over every one. If it was Guatemala, that might be a different story. We'll probably have that Golden Dome up before it's too big a thing. That's not a 100 percent guarantee of safety but pissant troublemaker X will know we're not terrified of their one nook with a 3% chance of making it through.

When you get hundreds and hundreds then that's different. And Iran wants to hand them off to proxies which is gay. Their proxies don't care about the US ( or wouldn't if we properly minded our own business ) but the jankier the proxies the higher the odds of one going off or geting lost or ending up in the hands of a nut. I think this is inevitable in the long run, but if it's basically free we should prevent it.
It's not worth much prevening it because it's inevitable, but it's worth a little.

>>507675650
I just want grandkids, after that you can all die in nuclear hellfire.

>>507674517
Well, you can't blame Trump for something a jew does. This whole "Israel asked Trump for permission" is such garbage, trying to treat the President of the USA as if he's the don of some mafia. That's why the non-Israeli world is so upset: the recent deaths of prominent Iranians is a cause for great concern because it looks like a mafia hit and Israel looks like a mafia.

>>507675857
>Israel looks like a mafia.
arent they actually just the mafia though

>>507675650
Nuclear armed states dont just give nukes to their proxies. They may set up launchers in the proxy and control them for the proxy there, though. But not give to them to keep. They could just turn it against them at some point in the future, it'd be retarded

>>507675845
Nobody is ever going to waste one of their precious nooks on my town.

It' would take a bunch going off at once to affect me.

>>507666926 (OP)
Tulsi said they don't have nukes, yet israel went batshit and bombed a country with no proof, just a 'trust me bro', the same 'trust me bro' being fearmongered for 40 years. They are irrational whenever things don't go their way and strike you, as the saying goes. So why can these impulsive schizophrenic retards get to have a nuke but not iran? look how well not having a proper deterrent is helping us now...more wars. Israel feels emboldened, like they can do whatever it wants. All they do is threaten to nuke the world if you don't do whatever they want. How is that any different? how is that not worse? israel is a child with a loaded gun, unpredictable.

>>507676017
The proxy has the nook. They can steal it. They can get Dr Emmet Brown to take the core out and make their own bomb without the Iranian Codes attached out of Pinball Machine Parts

>>507675592
>Dont destroy your own body in a nuclear exchange
>But definitely destroy your body in an explosion for your religion
Except on a bigger scale. The point of a suicide bomber is to kill anyone around you without giving a fuck who it is, including your own family if necessary. Now size that up to nukes that's why Im fucking worried.
If I was seeing kike suicide bombers then yeah sure give iran the nuke, that way the samson option wouldnt exist and it would just be a "who has the balls to do it first", which is more fair.

>>507676057
Well fucking lucky you

>>507670122
>but the kikes wont fucking bring us along with them if they lose in a conventional war

ever read the samsung option? Uh yeah they're both going to take us down with them nigger, we're fucked.

>Pic - oops I seemed to have mistaken these flags goyim we're so sorry.

>>507672090
The death cult they sponsored sacrificed the entire gaza to have 1200 Israelis killed and 251 abducted. They won't give a shit about 90 million Persians if it means to get us rekt

>>507676017
The Soviets gave China the tech to build their nuclear weapons in the late 1950s, before the Sino-Soviet split.

Because they're retarded enough to actually use them. I don't understand why people don't understand this. Iran's leaders doesn't give a fuck if the world burns. They're retard Islam Mohammad dicksuckers. They'll gladly perish in hellfire if it means they do enough damage to Mohammad's enemies to be counted as a Martyr beforehand. It's why they constantly commit suicide attacks. Worse still, they'll pass them off to even bigger retards to do the suicide bombing for them.

>>507676507
Dont make me tap the sign, faggot. They can't force me to sign up and die, and if they do, they'll start a civil war, which will fuck their plans up to get us to help. Just start killing the fuckers who come to your door to force you to conscript.

>>507675992
No, the government is responsible for maintaining a system of corrections, and it should set a higher standard than committing murder because of anxiety and paranoia. Here it looks like Israel lacks the maturity required to maintain that system.
For the love of God, non-proliferation failed!
Stop murdering people!
Give Iran the atomic bomb!
Arrest Netanyahu and send him to the ICC awaiting trial for murder and genocide.
Netanyahu is trying to build a political career out of committing genocide against the Iranians.
He should be sent to prison for the rest of his life for war crimes and genocide.

>>507667184
Jews have nukes and they preach a lot worse in the Talmud

>>507676311
They only have cannon fodder assassins ever do suicide bombings because everyone else, especially everyone important, actually does care about dying. Osama Bin Laden didnt hijack a plane himself in 9/11

>45pbtid
>GUISE WE CANT LET IRAN HAVE THE NUCLEAR CODES

>>507676696
Finally someone ITT who isnt a fucking moron. Look at pakistan, nobody worries about them because they're a POST jihad muslim country iran isnt, ffs.

>>507676411
Staying out of shit and minding your own business can make you lucky too unless you're neighbor is a crackhead.

Hopefully he fights with your other crackhead neighbor and they both waste their noox on each other. Then you have two less crackheads around and the world is a better place for it.

>>507666926 (OP)
They should. In fact, I advocaate for total global nuclear proliferation.

>>507667184
As opposed to a Hebrew etno-theocracy?

>>507677026
yeah, if israel and the middle east (excluding ones like saudi arabia or united arab emirates) all just got glassed, i'd breath a fucking sigh of relief to be honest

they're gonna get us all killed, the kikes and fucking sand niggers dont know when to fucking stop

>>507676694
that was dumb of them

>>507676561
>it's personal for me
I know. But it's not for me

>>507676956
You should read the thread first, retard-kun.

>>507666926 (OP)
>Why can't Iran have nuclear weapons?

Israel will not be able to bully them any more..

>>507677036
You, sir, are mentally retarded.

>>507675247
Jews have no religious motivation to destroy other nations provided they're left alone.
The fulfillment of their prophecy is to live in Israel and get their temple back that's pretty much it. For most of them. They don't really dwell on any "last days" or anything. They have Messianic prophecies but most don't really care if they ever happen they just want to live in Israel.

Islamic eschatology on the other hand, they want the last day because that's when the resurrection will happen. Jews don't really dwell on the resurrection, they even forbid themselves reading the book of Daniel claiming it's sealed, so they don't read it, it's one of the big prophetic books of the old testament. Christians read it, Jews don't.
But Muslims have their own anti-parallel version of Christian eschatology where a guy that sounds a hell of a lot like the Christian Anti-christ is their Mahdi and their version of Jesus (which sounds a lot like the Christian "false prophet" in Revelation) that is going to conquer the world and kill all the Jews and Christians.
and only after all the Jews are killed will the resurrection happen.

So to Muslims, killing Jews is hastening the resurrection, and if they die as martyrs they just get better rewards and they'll get resurrected anyway.

Christianity also glorifies martyrs but the spin is, you aren't a martyr if you take up weapons and attack people "those who live by the sword die by the sword" and it's not a good thing. Martyrs in Christianity are peaceful people who get snagged by authorities and EXECUTED for their faith. Not killed in battle, EXECUTED.
Christians aren't going to nuke anyone for their eschatology, neither are Jews... but Muslims? absolutely since their eschatology involves killing Jews and Christians.

and Christian Eschatology involves Jews and Christians being persecuted and killed by Antichrist.
so yeah, anti-parallel.

>>507677426
Im losing I.Q. points being ITT, frankly.

>>507666926 (OP)
It’s not really about nukes. The U.S. and Iran were negotiating a deal for Iran not to build a nuclear weapon and to limit their capability of enriching uranium. Iran agreed to do that since it was already complying with inspections and international law. Then the Jews in Israel said they can’t have any uranium and Trump (who is obviously just a figurehead with no real power) repeated Israel’s demands. Iran has been enriching uranium for 40 years so demanding they stop altogether when every other nation is allowed is a ridiculous. Trump then pretended the negations would go on and the Jews decided to attack Iran knowing the U.S. will come in to finish what they themselves started.

That’s the gist of it. Israel started a war they know they can’t finish and are counting on the U.S. to finish it for them.

>>507667373
How is that different than north korea? They have nukes so can Iran..I think america needs to stfu and stop policing the world.. If you don't bully other countries they would never use such weapons anyway

>>507677036
This is the only option worth defending. Non-proliferation leads to anxiety and paranoia.

>>507667589
Good point, there's no reason for the usa to have them either.

>>507677854
I do know Iran sorta needs to enrich uranium because it needs to supply domestic needs with nuclear energy to have any oil left to sell.

It's probably easy to hide making noox in amongst that, and I think they might not easily be able do do without all that.

Operation Irani Freedom lets go boyssssssssssss

>>507666926 (OP)
Saudi Arabia and Qatar would want one, then several other country would want one and everyone has nuclear weapons they either yolo it or can resist the Global order which the 13 families don't like

>>507667184
>>507667373
Jews have done more Jihad than all of the muslims in history. They can’t be trusted even with firearms or they are liable to shoot the nearest Aryan unprovoked, screaming something about shabbat trigger mechanism
>>507667589
>it literally worked for north korea

uhmmm, they just CAN'T, ok??!!

>>507668471
tf you talking about, saudis and israelis are best friends

>>507678203
The Jews are fighting the Iranian Nation

Sounds like a prison yard scrap

>>507677854
Israel and mainland China want a war between Iran and the USA. It makes much more sense for the USA and Iran to form a partnership with Russia to limit the power of the UK, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and China.
Let Iran have the atomic bomb.
Celebrate democratic Iran!
This is a win for freedom!

>>507678210
they can want all they want but nobody will provide them the things needed to develop one. Iran knows arming other states is just a liability, like everyone else does

>>507666926 (OP)
How stupid can you be?

The Iranian government is NOT our friend. They are NOT friendly to western values, in fact they are HOSTILE to western civilization.

>>507677854
This. The US doesn't even believe Iran is attempting to make nukes.

>>507678182
It's hard as fuck because they have inspections all the time by international agents, so they would need to build a whole different enriching facility than the ones they use for their power plants.
All of that while the US is breathing on their necks.
It's been almost 40 years they are doing the same "iran is going to get nukes in 2 weeks" and somehow everyone falls for it despite they never doing so.

>>507666926 (OP)
i hope iran wins.
why does israel, india, pakistan and north korea have nukes but not iran?
fuck the jews.

Why israel who has treated europe with the Samson opinion has nukes?

>>507668017
>in primitive mystic cult shitty country hands it's a global safety risk
I agree, we should take the nukes away from Israel
>years with Iranian threats to nuke the world:
0
>years with Israeli threats to nuke the world:
60+ (including this year)

>>507678379
I wonder if they bunker bust a nook power plant if China will complain when the fallout blows their way.

>>507677854
WHAT DOES IRAN NEED NUCLEAR POWER FOR

THEY HAVE OIL AND GAS

MEANWHILE THEY USE JIHADIST PROXIES TO TRY TAKING OVER THE REGION >>507673481
IRAN IS THE AGGRESSOR OPERATING MILITIAS IN MULTIPLE FOREIGN COUNTRIES SUCH AS LEBANON SYRIA IRAQ YEMEN
DO THEIR NEIGHBORS LIKE THAT FOR INSTANCE SAUDI ARABIA

>>507678569
MTG posted that Saudi Arabia has them too. PRobably lots of folks have them. Even South Africa had them once.

>>507678316
>>507678269
all I know is that bibi is endangering the whole world

>>507678508
> OIFIEDE OF THE OIRECIOR
> NATIONAL INTELLLITGERCE
Only boomers and muslims can fall for such obvious ai slop

>>507666926 (OP)
Go kvetch about it to your rabbi, Donny.

>>507666926 (OP)
Because Israel says so.

>>507678766
Full document here, Rabbi:
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ATA-2025-Unclassified-Report.pdf

>>507678412
Everyone in the White House is a Zionist. They are much more likely to hit Iran with MOABs than to strike any sort of peace deal. The U.S. pulled the same shit with Hamas and pretended they would act as mediator and then Israel killed all the lead negotiators. They have done the same now with Iran and obviously nothing Trump says can be trusted.

>>507667373
6 million posts by this ID
fuck off Herschel

>>507678809
I'm going to give Iran the atom bomb even though Israel said not to, and there isn't anything you can do about it!

Why should Israel have nukes?
Israel has threatened or attacked all of her neighbors to make real estate available for Greater Israel and to keep Bibi out of jail.

>>507679032
We should treat the deaths of the Iranians as an attack on the USA, especially the ability of the USA to conduct secure negotiations.
We need to ask the Israelis a tough question: why did you attack our credibility? Why did you harm the USA this way?

>>507677426
t. retard who can't into natural mechanisms of interactions

>>507677511
It's what happens when imperium doesn't want to pay its own cost. USA was sliding into weakness since Bush, Biden made a coffin and Trump hit last nail in it. If you aren't willing to bear the cost of countries staying powerless for your convenience then you will get nuclear proliferation as Ukraine has shown that only real deterrent is nuclear capabilities. No country is going to willingly be used as meatshield for your interest, being fed just enough to stay in fight and bleed out, but not enough to win. Your last 2 administrations completely ruined decades of your foreign policy. And there is whole bunch of countries on the borders of spheres of influences like whole eastern Europe, Japan, both Koreas, Iran, Taiwan etc.

>>507678662
Maybe to have potential to destroy Israel, deterring them from chimping out like now? Israel is unironically dragging USA down. It's telling how west was willing to try to drone Kaddafi who went against economic interests of the west, but isn't willing to drone strike Bibi and Ben Gvir who are causing shit and dragging everyone down to escape prosecution and their delusions respectively. Pathetic MIGAtards.

>>507678461
Yeah neither are kikes. Or you apparently. You are going to lose this argument so I recommend you fuck off.

>>507678662
That shipped sailed already. There was a time when the U.S. and Russia could have worked together on limiting the enrichment of uranium by foreign countries. Now every country try in the 21st century is two-weeks from a nuke. Should we start wars with all of them?

You might consider they wanted this all to happen and were planning it. Meaning the U.S. is waiting for the right moment to get involved.

>>507679285
Why would we do that? We were intentionally running cover for Israel. We arm Israel, we give them intelligence, we lie to others in negotiations, and soon Americans will also die for Israel. They are our greatest ally we have no formal alliance with, meaning if something happens to the U.S. Israel has NO obligation to help.

Oh say can you see!

>>507666926 (OP)
Why should we allow these 3rd world countries to get nukes?
They're fucking retarded and would probably try to use them on (You).

>>507680477
idiotic conspiracy theory

>>507680756
Haha! The U.S. denies it so it must be false.

Look at the facts, dumbass. Trump even said he knew about the attack. The CIA will claim that’s to save face for not seeing the attack coming. Ok, so are you going to condemn Israel for attacking another country unprovoked? Of course not! So who gives a shit if there is plausible deniability or not.

>>507666926 (OP)
it's literally a biblical prophecy that christian white western civilization gives the jews everything tbey want so they trigger the second coming of christ. ask any christian why only jews are allowed to have nukes and they'll tell you god commands it

>>507678662
Lmao the absolute desperation of this faggot propagandist

>>507666926 (OP)
Why can Israel? Do you even know how they got them?

>>507681158
tea leaf reading....are you an old woman?

>>507678461
Multiple values should exist in the world even if they're antagonic. Claiming otherwise is napoleon syndrome type bullshit

>>507681201
They got them from South Africa when they foolishly disarmed and then stole additional tech from the USA.

>>507681289
I will just assume that means you have nothing to say.

>>507667184
What about the Talmud calling all gentiles goyim?

>>507668017
Fuck you jew

>>507666926 (OP)
Oi vey this is so antisemitic. Goys aren't allowed to have any

>>507681381
Which is why Israel should be disarmed and seized for reparations.

>>507681438
about your gossip/diviniation/narrative craft bs? kek

>>507666926 (OP)
Only jews and their allies are allowed to have them. Makes sense, right?

>>507667373
>theyre crazy!!!!!

No they arent. They know damn well they would get glassed for using one, the reason the jews dont want them to have one is they wont be able to do this kind of attack again without risking a nuclear exchange with Iran.

>>507667184
so is israel, and they stole our nuke tech after assassinating our president who tried to stop them

>>507666926 (OP)
>Scraps the nuclear deal Iran was abiding by
>Try to negotiate new deal for next 8 years
>Fail
Fuck this kike

>>507667373
Arabs don't actually commit many crimes in the US. It's not even a Trump inflated statistic argument in favor of mass deportation.
>arabs are blowing up all over the US :O
lol no

Europe has its own unvetted mass immigration problem letting actual criminals leak out, and that's a different phenomenon that's more of a policy issue.

>>507667925
Israel literally sees this as a holy war, and at this point passed the death toll of Islamic terrorism, lol.

>>507676507
They don't have enough ICBMs for that

>>507667047
>>507666926 (OP)

Because they chant death to america and put it on their flag for the last 20 years. That's pretty good reason.

>>507681602
I know, you can’t accept that the U.S. is doing this when there is a repeated pattern. Again, they want to have plausible deniability, and do similar things in regards to Russia. Remember when Trumpy boy was having negotiations with Putin and then drones assembled within Russia were used to hit Russian bombers,

It’s all just a coincidence. Then the same thing happened in Iran. The CIA does things repeatedly if they work. I can’t help it if they deny it and you believe their bullshit. That’s on you for being a dumbass.

>>507681887
not my problem

>>507681887
Ok Fox News

>>507682140
Because you are not American and an obvious keyboard edgelord. Why would any actual American agree with you or find your ideology reasonable?

>>507682095
its all your head canon faggot...unless you can prove it?

>>507669805
It is not all about Israel. America is not run by retards, all wars are done for selfish reasons and perceived national interests.
Israel is America's launchboard to control & threaten all states in middle East - which means indirectly controlling oil supply & how it's sold(only in dollars). Any states that don't comply are effectively and enemy of US, and so too of Israel. There is also high likelihood that banksters ask US government to take Israel onboard to continue the hegemonic dollar monetary policy. In all scenarios, yes, wars may appear to be for "Israel", but they are ultimately about American empire. Basically, the same old kill and loot to be rich & pompous. It also explains Venezuela and Russia, and why Nordstream was blown. It's all about money, and just that. Folks don't have the courage to self reflect, and project their and their nations innate evilness onto others.

IT.IS.NOT.ABOUT.NUKES.

>>507682527
It's literally not my problem what brown people are saying on the other side of the world, I'm not gonna die for that. This is 100% Israel's problem and I think they should just chill the fuck out. If anyone shouldn't have nukes it's them, they've proven to be aggressive as shit. MAD protects anyway, look at North Korea

>>507681182
IRAN DIDNT DO NOTHING

THEY JUST WANT NUCLEAR POWER FOR THEIR ELECTRIC GRID

THE DISHONESTY ALREADY PROVES THEIR BAD INTENTIONS

>>507681887
Aren't they the ones that tried to negotiate with America to denuclearize in favor of better trade deals? idk, I think their interests are in defense, not offense, and it's the rest of the world that doesn't want to negotiate. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>507682578
I already did by pointing out the pattern. They are not going to admit any wrong doing until they face the gallows.

>>507682963
>It's literally not my problem what brown people are saying on the other side of the world, I'm not gonna die for that
you will if they get a nuke retard...

>>507683124
no I wont retard

>>507669805
> but israel wont fucking take us out with them if they lose a conventional war, those mother fuckers absolutely would.
lol. Yeah, okay, tell that to Afghanistan and Palestine.
>th-they would totally bomb us if they lost a war
Demonstrably false.
Also if that's true, why invade their territory in a forever war? Bullshit.

>>507683074
pointing out a pattern is not proof of anything. you are narrative crafting like a teen girl or kremlin faggot.

>every smart person knows the cia did the coup with the space laser and...

no. sorry.

>>507683168
oh you are a muzzie eh?

>>507666926 (OP)
because they'll use them, you dumbfuck

>>507682494
>On fox news
What's the Houthi flag really translate to then? It's their flag for Christmas sakes. You're absolutely not Americans. That kind of ignorance while at the same time brigade posting "us doesn't have hypersonic but Itan does" etc etc... is more than enough to know you're fake and gay.
>>507683024
>>507682963

>>507666926 (OP)
because they constantly chant death to america even from their highest officials like absolute fucking retards instead of being chill

>>507683395
Against who? The US? The country that many of their allies and neighbors are on good terms with? The country they were trying to negotiate with for years?

Oh, you mean Israel, the country that literally instigated a war on their land unprompted.
>nooo do not redeem the nuclear, do not protect your borders, nuclear weapons and deterrents are reserved for israel, the most trusted government on Earth!!!
I like how none of you chimps argue that Israel should denuclearize. Following this logic the US should invade Israel.

>>507682623
israel is the one who's national interest is served by the us, not the other way around. The us has been a puppet controlled by Israeli media, and Israeli owned us officials for decades.

>>507666926 (OP)
>Why can't Iran have nuclear weapons?
Because they can nuke Israel if they have nukes.

>>507683223
I'm a muzzie because I dont believe this hysterical lie that is the basis for this entire war? I mean the one where you try to convince everyone that Iran is going to destroy Israel, itself and as much of the western world as possible as soon as it gets its hands on nukes, like an insane suicide bomber assassin?
Sorry I'm just not buying that. The suicide bomber is always some expendable brainwashed fuck, not the supreme leader. You're a zionist so you may not comprehend anyone seeing the enemies of Israel as anything other than mindless orcs, but I judge Israel and Iran equally by their actions. And to me it looks like Israelis are acting like out of control cowboys assassinating and bombing everywhere while the Iranians showing restraint and caution, only firing warning shots back (basically) the first 2 times Israel provoked them

>>507683694
>American government cooperates with the Italian mafia to achieve their goals
>Iran cooperates with a terrorist organization to achieve their goal (defense)
Iran finds it the most pragmatic solution to cooperate with them to defend against Israel in this region, but their views on America are not shared, otherwise Iran wouldn't be trying to make trade deals with a country you are arguing they are trying to destroy.

Try again.

>>507666926 (OP)
It's 69284810389919499181884829919192003949949491113993941488362772626290101938473737271439931939499281818289664202039499291393939881482929299482717709189966q626728848959291929001992988484882818101020039948488488429101020088765556788106481027559161002847482919713991098838488584288277177199294999506551727551829955+538589271629299196108438292961729002591737859929394D chess. Trump is going to betray Israel in the end. Trust the plan.

>>507683694
You’re literally espousing Fox News talking points like a retard. In what country do the Houtis reside in? Here’s a hint: it’s not Iran.

Ok AI response, then why do you also brigade pro Houthi nonsense. Quit wasting your time. You're rooting for American death. I see deceit flowing.

>>507684614
And Houthis build high tech weaponry? Cmon.

Good question

>>507672404
Iran didn't do anything wrong though. You think you're being reasonable, but still subconsciously carrying water for gaslighting jews.

>>507666926 (OP)
Because more nuclear-states means fewer nations it is possible to commit war against. That is the only reason to oppose nuclear proliferation, a desire for perpetual war. Anyone interested in peace supports nuclear proliferation

>>507685098
"Iran didn't do anything wrong" is literally gas lighting lmfao. If the West being involved in proxy wars is wrong then certainly you can't say Iran being involved in proxy wars is not. More fake and gay.

They are not a rational actor

Why can’t a guy who thinks marvel super heroes are real and hears voices telling him to sacrifice children to moloch have a gun?

>>507667184
as long as the jihad kills kikes FIRST, i really really actually don't care, heeb (:

>>507685469
Proxy wars such as Israel strengthening Hezbollah after invading Lebanon, and Iran utilizing this opportunity to push Israel back out.

Almost all their proxy wars are anti Israel invasion.

>>507671930
>Romania and that entire bloc area
The fuck are you talking about you dumb yank

>>507686212
And?

>>507666926 (OP)
>Why can't Iran have nuclear weapons?

Because Iran is controlled by adherents to Islam, and Islam is especially a religion of and for the most extreme of psychotics

And do you now need me to break out literal crayons to explain why psychotics should never have nuclear fucking weapons?

>>507686528
why does israel have nuclear weapons tho

>>507672850
>the worst that would happen is they kill millions
Anon...

>>507666926 (OP)
nothing ever happens
SAGE

>>507686560
The same thing applies

All desert religions are for psychopathic psychotics -- which includes both Judaism and Christianity

Racism, capitalism and communism are also religions for psychopath psychotics and their adherents should also not ever be allowed to have nuclear weapons

The actual problem is way too many psychopaths and psychotics who manage to fly under the radar as such, undetected. Eliminate whatever gene makes them the way they are, and the vast majority of the problem solves itself like toppling dominoes

>>507686528
>a religion of and for the most extreme of psychotics
But enough about the jews.

>>507685849
And those jewish iraqis and saudis as well, ey? Everyone has a personal excuse for why they do what they do, some worse than others, but all these fake Americans that espouse the same pov as a Qatari is over the top. If anything, taking over all discourse and barking like dogs is making actual Americans lurking way more resolved that your side is irredeemable.

>>507669126
>I dont give a fuck what you think you know
ditto kike

>>507687092
>the jews

and the Muslims
and the Christians
and the communists
and the capitalists
and the racists
and the feminists
and the masculinists

etc.

>>507668754
>how can you know this?
everyone who doesn't give a fuck about allah is a problem in their opinion

>>507666926 (OP)
Why the fuck would you want the muzzies to have nukes? The less people with nukes, the better.

>>507685849
>Almost all their proxy wars are anti Israel invasion.>
Except the Anti-Sunni ones in:
Iraq, Syria, Bahrian, Nigeria, Lebanon, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen.

>>507667373
Name a nuclear armed country that the US has militarily attacked.
>you can't
>>507667664
Bingo.

>>507666926 (OP)
might = right
you'll find out soon chink.

>>507687223
no it's mostly just the jews

because they don't exist?

>>507667925
It's Jewish shills

>>507687447
It's any group that fancies themselves an automatic and infallible master race

>>507687055
>muh genes
I think this is a cop out answer, it's more about unraveling century's worth of extremely complicated propaganda and putting people in a position where they're forced to see reality. Religions, political philosophy, and even recorded history naturally change and distort with time, even with largely the same genetic pool.

While I deeply hate the Israeli popular sentiment towards warfare, I also understand that any country is susceptible to that level of propaganda. Thank god you were born in an environment that granted you a moral compass.

>>507687095
>Everyone has a personal excuse for why they do what they do
Yes. For Iran it's largely defense and not active offense, something I agree with. Killing civilians bad, war bad, your neighbors getting invaded by Israel bad.

It is because Israel and the US do not want to negotiate things are escalating as they are. Not because Iran is just a bunch of demons looking for war. This is literally a war started BY Israel, so stfu.

>but all these fake Americans that espouse the same pov as a Qatari
I am not a Qatari, they make less than 10% of their population iirc. Also you don't get to determine what is and isn't an American opinion. It's as simple as Americans don't want to lose their kids for Israel so our interests align.

>>507666926 (OP)

The King of deals has spoken. He has delivered his gospel. Promises made promises kept! Keep America Great again!

>>507670038
Why is Pakistan's intelligence agency so effective?

>>507687778
They are decidedly not Americans and Canadians saying they want to kill their people in favor of China, Russia, and Iran lol. Give it up. Maybe your not as bad as you think you are because you're not that good at deception.

>>507688179
>if your kids don't get slaughtered on the battlefield for isreal you're a fake american
Literal human sacrifice. Nice try, good bye.

>>507666926 (OP)
it's not that they can't have nukes because they're dangerous.
it's not that they can't have nukes because they're fake.

they can't have nukes because nukes are people, and when they "create a nuke" they are creating someone that will destroy their own people, someone that Iran can't control.

think dr. manhattan but without self control or care for his people.
he will become death without mercy or grace, which will be worse for Iran than Israel.

>>507688403
War sucks but you must expect a fight eventually when you keep pushing against them like this. You don't care about American kids. People won't turn on their own families because they hate Israel so much lmfao. The entire calculation of this "long game" psychological campaign is as demented as its originator but you midlings think it's brilliant enough to push it with everything you've got lmfao.

>>507671762
>Hmm
>Israel's can reach all of Europe

North Korean's can get everything but South America.

>>507666926 (OP)
At least they didn’t steal them from us and kill a President.

Iran has the most moral foreign policy on the planet

>>507667184
Against Israel.

>>507667457
because kikes controll the world, or at least all major governments and corporations

ya every one has the right to bare arms

>>507689840
What am I pushing? For the US to make negotiations with Iran, as they should have, and already have in Obama's presidency. Then Trump tore the thing apart in his first term and is pretending to negotiate in his second term. I'm on the side that leads to the least civilian casualties on both sides, nuclear war is not inevitable and can be avoided.

You're viewing this in an angle of nationalism and pride above all else, the reason this forever war continues to exist.

>You don't care about American kids.
Their parents do, and don't want them to die for a war they have nothing to do with.
>People won't turn on their own families because they hate Israel so much lmfao.
I never made this argument. There will just be less national pride as a result, it's an exchange that only benefits Israel at the cost of American lives and tax payer dollars.

they should be able to, since other sandniggers (israel) have them

>>507691594
All this nonsense pretends that there isn't a union of actual nerdowell countries lead by China banding together to convey Americans, the people not just the government, into an evil charactiture so they can retake their "rightful middle kingdom rulership role denied to them by disgusting white people" and you love the concept so much you're literally all in. Grouping up nerdowells to topple the powers that be was jewish in the initial ussr but now it's clearly a yellow antichrist play and you are a disposable pawn.

>>507667047
FPBP. Nukes are fake, they are only used as an excuse to invade countries so we can prevent the proliferation of something that isn't even real.

>>507691988
They would have used them by now.

>>507666926 (OP)
Because fuck you. If so called “white” men are happy having nukes handed out like candy then kindly fuck off and join these little faggot nations you so support.

>>507666926 (OP)
Every time I read one of trump's tweets, I have a hard time believing he doesn't have a vagina.

>>507666926 (OP)
We can't let The Holy Land be destroyed, simple as. Christ is King.

>>507667925
What a fucking retard. The world absolutely freaked out when Russia went for nukes. That was the entire period of the Cold War. I’m assuming it wasn’t hot shit when China got it either and probably was a result of Russia getting it. It’s not like there wasn’t a fucking decades long struggle or anything you’re leaving out of the narrative, you total fucking retard.

>>507677459
>Jews have no religious motivation to destroy other nations provided they're left alone.
>The fulfillment of their prophecy is to live in Israel and get their temple back that's pretty much it.

Only one problem with your statement......

To establish biblical Israel they have to continue stealing the land from the current inhabitants.

>>507693552
North Korea has nuclear weapons now. Why did the powers that be just let them? Why didn't they sacrifice south korea to stop them? Don't you know Kim Jong Un is a genocidal maniac who will nuke the entire world if he has the chance?

The true answer to OP's question is because nuclear weapons prevent conventional warfare between nuclear states. Iran has been Israels enemy for 40 years. If they let Iran get nukes, then that means they can never do anything to them again.

>>507678461
>western values

>>507666926 (OP)
Because they are not G-d's chosen.

>>507692748
what
All I'm effectively saying is
>war bad, end war, less refugees, gg ez
And out of that you somehow see the silhouette of a rat.

>>507678713
>MTG posted that Saudi Arabia has them too. PRobably lots of folks have them. Even South Africa had them once.
the jews murdered JFK to get theirs