Thread 507715458

Russia shall lose an important ally and military resource in Middle East. China will lose a significant oil and gas resource. I think Iran has to be death. I don't care as to the kikes, but I care the free world

>>507715458 (OP)
Speak proper English you Chinese offshoot.

>>507715827
Using broken English means I'm not a Kike public opinion shaper. Kike is quite at home in English

>>507715458 (OP)
Death to the Axis of Evil is good for the world

Russia is already making their cheap drones domestically and gets their cruise missiles from North Korea
They'll be fine

>>507716759
We can use Iran to reduce oil prices and hurt the Russia's pocket.

Iran has (or rather had, before drones destroyed it) Russian air defense and Israel has air superiority, doing whatever it wants, wherever it wants. Russians must be nervous because this is how their war with NATO would look like and both sides knows this at this point.

Even nuke threats won't work because Iran supposedly has nukes as well.

Other than that it won't change Russia's or China's position. Iran is playing it's own games and it wasn't even helpful (or influential) enough to stop Houtis from fucking up Chinese ships.
>>507716294
Not an argument. Could be Kike's deception.

>>507715458 (OP)
So is China going to do anything? I sae an interview with a former colonel who stated the China needs energy from Iran. Is it not in China's interests to step in if Iran is doing so terribly? Or is Iran not doing as terribly as thought?

>>507718523
It weakens both Russia and China.

>>507715458 (OP)
It basically kills China's most mabitious procects (Road and belt, New silk road, BRICS) and also destroys a potential ally if shit goes haywire in the South China Sea. Also cuts them off, in case SHTF, from their major cheap oil ressource.
For Russki it would be even more catastrophic, because after the fall of assa in syria they lose their last ally down there and their entire underbelly (Caucasus and Cantral Asian shitholes) becomes exposed to potential NATO attacks.
And that is a good thing, therefore I support israel. Not a jew, not even close, but idgaf. Have to win one world war at least.

>>507718523
>because Iran supposedly has nukes as well.
You're completely out of touch with reality
Just relaying your goyslop to the next poor man
Iran has no nukes and not even the level of enrichment needed as a pre requisite

If they had the wisdom to make one, there wouldn't even be talks about attacking them

>>507718747
China has already been intervening to maintain Iran's regime. But they cannot do much

>>507718969
No, not openly at least. What they can do is support them with weapons, ammo, intel and shit, just like NATO is doing to Ukraine. This is in their best interest, because it prolongs the conflict, people in the west get angrier at their governments, NATO having to use even more equipment and shit down there etc.
At the ned of the day neither Russia nor China care about Iran, they care about themselbves. But neccause of that, they can't allow it to fall as easily as Syria has fallen. they need to make sure that if it falls, the west has to pay a massive price, or they are even more fucked.

>>507718916
Ayatollah has made a Fatwa against nukes since 2003, and as they are a theocragy, they can't just ignore that. I'd say they fucked themselves by that, of there are even more Mossad agents and traitors in play than most suppose, up to the highest ranks (which I assume).

>>507718750
Not really. It get rid of their threats on the trade routes. We did it to Somali pirates.

>>507715458 (OP)
Nay dong chi, china specializes in "economic revitalization" of broken countries with a corrupt government to siphon their natural resources and to shackle their infrastructure to chinese-made craps. A strong and prosperous Iran is the least thing they want, regardless of rhetoric.

>>507715458 (OP)
>Russia shall lose an important ally
How is Iran an important ally to Russia? I think Russia prefers the current Iranian government over some US puppet government, but just because Iran sold Russia some drones and production licenses, that does not make them an "important ally". Did you know that Israel also sold Russia a drone production license (for the "Forpost" drone)? Does that mean Israel is an important Russian ally?

>China will lose a significant oil and gas resource
Iran exports a total of 1.5mbpd of oil. For comparison, global oil production is over 100mbpd. Oil is a highly fungible commodity, so for China it doesn't really matter where they buy it from.
As for gas, Iran exports tiny amounts of gas (about 16bcm/y) and almost all their gas exports are via pipeline to neighbors, not to China.

>>507716685
Get with the times. Vietnam is now getting major Chinese railroad investments and Russian nuclear investments. Hating China and Russia does you no good. Besides, since when did Vietnamese people hate Russians anyway?

>>507715458 (OP)
>but I care the free world
Russia, China, Iran are the free world you retarded monkey.
Unless you think global US domination makes you free.
>>507719943
It's a VPN nigger who thinks giving the US complete world domination is the path to freedom. Imbecile.

>>507715458 (OP)
a) Iran doesn't have a "regime", it's a liberal democracy.
b) Iran is not Russia's ally and never has been. That's as retarded as claiming that Vietnam and China are allies because both dislike the USA.

>>507718523
>doing whatever it wants, wherever it wants
Is that why they need Uncle Sam's goy slave help? Because they won against Iran so hard and fast?
Did I understand you right?

>>507719943
Our relationship with Russia is excellent.
Our traitorous government however, is doing the best it could to distance Vietnam from Russia, making it easier for a chinese takeover every passing days,

>>507719778
To this day Russia still hasn't delivered Iran the jets they bought, and then there's this secret deal Putin made with trump, permitting USA to do something in exchange of him prohibiting Ukraine from targeting their oil resources. Zelensky revealed it to the Kiev newspapers on 16 June to make the time even more relevant.

>>507718750
>It weakens both Russia
Not nearly as much as Russia weakens itself lately. It's like a man who is gutting himself got pink eye.
>and China
It doesn't make them any stronger in the region, but their influence in there wasn't that great to begin with. Again: they literally couldn't make some savages in Yemen to not fucking up their ships, even with Iran to (supposedly) help them. China has more power over Belarus (through Russia) than anywhere in Middle East. Iran or no Iran, it doesn't make much difference.
>>507718916
>If they had the wisdom to make one, there wouldn't even be talks about attacking them
Deterrence was there. All countries assumed Iran has nukes. Israel showed you can just attack and destroy everything before enemy is capable of undusting it's warheads. That means it's another (after India vs Pakistan shitshow) step in lifting up taboo on attacking state with nuclear potential.

>>507715458 (OP)
What free world? I've never seen it.

>>507720211
You know Putin just signed a strategic partnership with them back in April, right? And they have bought a lot of high-end Russian ordnance (despite many still haven't being delivered to this day in contrast to the thousands of Geraniums they sent you in 2022). It's always this rhetoric when Russians cut off their vassals because they're too unwilling to assist

We’ll see, can’t tell what the consequences will be yet and for who. Looks like trump is suffering domestically from it which could turn out to be bad for russia and china, iran losing might embolden the US in general

>>507720310
Israel doesn't have strategic bombers capable of destroying underground bunkers. US has them. If US joins Israel now, they could make Iran as powerless as Afghanistan in matter of days.

>>507721015
Or it would start a massive war with Iran, as with nothing left to lose they shoot munitions at the Gulf and its oil fields, thus closing it. It would be the Red Sea Crisis magnified 10x. The best thing to do is not to play, Israel can go to shit with its preemptive strike.

>>507721638
Yes, that's the risk to consider. However before Israel attacked risk was overestimated in comparison to how Iran answered. Right now US could just say "fuck it, let's deal with this once and for all", since there are no real consequences to Israel's actions that were suppose to have huge consequences.

>>507719719
If, in that envisioned scenario, China continues to exert influence over Iranian fuel resources, that would be deeply concerning. However, I believe that Iran’s future regime will oppose China’s ambitions.

>>507719943
China’s refusal to relinquish control over my nation’s land and maritime territories cements its status as our enduring adversary. Given that Russia remains China’s most strategic ally, any deterioration in Russia’s power base inevitably undermines Beijing’s regional leverage. My own government, lacking both courage and principle, exploits the Russo-Ukrainian war as a political smokescreen—justifying its submissive posture toward an increasingly aggressive neighbor. For this reason, I support a Russian defeat in the war. Lastly, I hate that Russia provides their beauteous women to China instead of us