Thread 507740447

Since 1984, we've been hearing that Iran is weeks away from building a nuke. They clearly have nothing to show for it.

How come their scientists suck so much ass? In 1944, a nuke had never been made before and the US managed to do it. Iran's top scientists have been at it for 40 years and have nothing to show? Am I missing something?

You've made the mistake of believing the bullshit you were told by the media and jews. Whoever said they were developing nukes in the first place? Have you seen how big the country is? Could they possibly, maybe just have wanted nuclear power all this time for their citizens?

>>507740447 (OP)
because nukes are fake and gay and iran is another masonic puppet state larping along with it

>>507740447 (OP)
They can't do tests without getting invaded and their scientists have been getting killed by mossad for a long time

Because of mutts

>>507740447 (OP)
That Israel kept stopping them?
Do you seriously not remember stuxnet which caused Iran to destroy all its centrifuges and Israel killing its scidntists every so often?

>>507740447 (OP)
they most likely already have built nukes, lots of them but haven't tested them out yet to reveal to the world they already built one

>>507740447 (OP)
Because they're fucking fake you absolute retard!

>>507740447 (OP)
First of all born yesterday nigger, stuxnet. Second of all, the entire worlds been infiltrating and sabotaging their country for ten years. These niggas treat Iran like they're trying to establish their own bank or something. But frankly after seeing how the leader of the muslim world operates under pressure they probably deserve this. Bunch of hilariously incompetent religious extremist nutcases no different than jews. I have zero respect left for ragheads after this shameful display of cowering in bunkers lobbing bombs at eachother. Could learn a thing or two from slavs about proper WAAAAAGH!

>>507740447 (OP)
because this is psyop
The Powell test tube with anthrax? in UN
Saddams weapons of mass destruction
Assad's chemical weapons.
Now Hamenei's nukes.

If last 1 is true so Iran has no choice. Nuke Israel of seek allies for WW3.
Bibi contributed to my antisemitizm more that soem idiots from internet.

>>507740973
>Do you seriously not remember stuxnet
I remember it vaguely. Is that where Israel supposedly hacked their centrifuges and caused them to destroy themselves?

>>507740447 (OP)
hiroshima and nagasaki weren't weapons grade enrichment. it's just an arbitrary designation. you can make a dirty bomb with 20% enrichment.

>>507740447 (OP)
Refining uranium is a very expensive, energy consuming and difficult process.
You can get the isotope out of the raw mineral a few ways but the easiest is to put it in a giant super sonic centrifuge and spin the materials to separate them on an atomic scale. The exact way to do this down to the engineering is still kind of an international secret, so while everyone's scientists know the method, the knowledge to get it correct is not public knowledge.
You're trying to extract the tiny fractions of a percentage of pure uranium 235 isotope from the raw uranium compound. It's easy to fuck up. It's difficult to buy and it's expensive as fuck. The giant facilities it takes to do the refining are very easy and obvious to spot if you're looking for them, the cost is astronomical, the machinery has to be made from scratch because nobody sells industrial gaseous centrifuge systems for refining uranium isotope specifically.
It's a giant pain in the dick for any country to do.
Let alone do in secret.
And then once you've got this isotope, you need a separate rocket program or a bomber program and all the engineering bullshit that comes with that.
Iran hasn't done it because it's a giant undertaking that most countries couldn't do if they wanted to, and most of the ones that could don't even think it's worth it because of the international condemnation that comes with it.
Also a nuclear program in the 21st century doesn't have any financial benefit other than defensive capability. You use nukes to back up the threats of retribution and retaliation you make against people who threaten you.
Churchill and Truman famously got the Soviet Union to leave Greece after world war 2 by threatening them with atomic bombs (a technology they lacked at the time), but that's really one of the very few instances I've seen it used to gain something like that.

>>507740447 (OP)
hush child, they cant have one because they are fucking retarded mudniggers who will use it. you are a stupid faggot kys.

>>507740447 (OP)
Iran would be nuked by Israel and USA to stone age, they are never getting the nuke

>>507742596
>The exact way to do this down to the engineering is still kind of an international secret, so while everyone's scientists know the method, the knowledge to get it correct is not public knowledge.
Why wouldn't it be public knowledge? I suppose someone with a high level degree in physics or engineering should be able to figure it out even if they don't know the steps.

>>507741097
>nukes are fake
that's a new one.

>>507740447 (OP)
Because they didn't want to. They probably want to do it now but they are check mate'd. They should send all what they have to tel aviv before they get carpet bombed. I remember the time burgers used to pretend in UN security council before carpet bombing middle east

>>507740447 (OP)
>>507740447 (OP)
>Since 1984, we've been hearing that Iran is weeks away from building a nuk

you need to stop listening to your media and politicians then. Iran never said that they want to build nuke, Netanyahu said that and he was spamming this theory for decades. It's like asking why can't Iraq build weapons of mass destruction? BECAUSE THEY NEVER SAID THAT THEY WILL DO THAT, WEST SAID THAT NOT AND ISRAEL SAID THAT, NOT SADDAM.

Iran doesn't even want a Nuke, Israel lied again and now we will all be cucked into another gay ass war again

>>507740447 (OP)
North Korea is a key example of why Iran must develop a nuke at all costs or be destroyed by the US/Pissrael.

>>507740447 (OP)
>people think Iran is an actual country
Bitch it’s all made up. There is no Iran

>>507743220
Sure, if you put enough physicists together they can figure out how to practically achieve it, but it's gonna be a process, potentially a long one, and certainly an expensive one. It's the same with rocketry. You've got the US building ICBMs in the 1960s and then a decade later countries like Zaire and Libya are experimenting with early rocket testing, building crude V2 looking things because they just don't have the technology worked out. They think they do and they try their best with it but when it comes to testing they end up making the same blunder experiments that the Germans were making in the 1940s.
Check out Ortag, the failed rocket program for Zaire in 1974:
https://youtu.be/lVVu61ccft4
There's a gap in the knowledge in this field that requires a period of catch up, because the answers aren't immediately available due to the dangerous nature of them.

>>507740447 (OP)
>the us managed to do it
>fail to mention canada and the uk
The uk figured out how to build one on paper, the problem is actually trying to make one and get the resources, which led to the manhattan project. Even the bomb they made was relatively small compared to today's standards.
Israel made one only because they did it in secret to avoid detection and possible killed jfk who wanted an inspection of suspected nuclear facilities.
Iran has the problem of their scientists being assinated, their facilities blown up and sanctions.
Iran have always said they just want nuclear power, but then with israel aiming all its nukes at theran i would probably want nukes as well.

>>507740447 (OP)
https://www.scribd.com/document/327948759/Waltz
Ken waltz explained years ago why Iran should be nuclear armed for their own defense

They don't really need to. The Middle East is known for assassination and secrecy, so Iran is already very intimidating and terrorizing. Just look how Netanyahu acted: the Iranians lost a few high ranking people in their government, but the West is well aware of who is stooping to the level of murder: Trump and Netanyahu. Both Trump and Netanyahu are well outside the norm for Western liberal leadership.
Even though Russia and Iran aren't perfect, 9/11 and the USA PATRIOT Act have been huge disasters for the USA and the West.
Today, we want illegals and Chinese Americans sent to internment camps, and we want to keep them there until Beijing falls.
We need to tell Trump and Netanyahu to stop murdering Iranians and cooperate on bringing about the fall of Beijing.
An Iran with atomic bombs is an asset when it comes to defeating Beijing militarily.
Jews and Israelis need to be anti-Sino. They need to help us ramp up anti-Sino jingoism.

>>507744693
>Just look how Netanyahu acted:
Is it true he fled to Greece to get out of Israel? I haven't been able to find confirmation or not.

>>507740447 (OP)
Because the jews holding the videos of Trump fucking kids is telling Trump he cant let them.

>>507740710
Two things can be true at the same time

They probably do have a handful of crude gun type weapons. The current operation is to stop them from producing more advanced, smaller weapons that could be put on a missile,

>>507740447 (OP)
Having one nuke isn't enough, they'd need tens, and the means to deliver them without getting intercepted by Isreal. So they've been building up the stockpile of highly enriched uranium but building those bombs could take some more months if they decide to, which is probably to late now

>>507740447 (OP)
They're fucking retared. That's the joke. This is all a Jewish lie to control the region. They know Iran is to dumb to make nukes.

>>507740447 (OP)
NUKES
ARE
NOT
REAL
>>507740721
Based knower. This entire war is based on fake "nukes" to justify invasion of Iran.

>>507741097
>>507743261
See >>507747409

Yeah bro the evil Jewish pedophile human trafficker baby rapists are soo soo evil, but nukes?! Thats too evil for the baby rapists! Give me a break.

>>507741832
>supposedly
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8326387/Israel-video-shows-Stuxnet-as-one-of-its-successes.html

>>507746302
hey Taz, big fan

>>507740447 (OP)
Shut up if you know what is good for you, pal

>>507742596
I've read something about lasers boiling the uranium and then somehow the condensate is somehow somewhat separated. I think it was something about the feasibility of it.

>>507743769
>cucked into another gay ass war again
My sense on the matter too. Would an Iran war be as bad as the Iraq War was?

>>507745716
he "wen on vacation" beforehand

>>507747534
sure bro, don't let the voices stop you.

>>507742596
Nukes aren't real dumbest. It's a giant welfare program for the military and a fear tool for politics.

>>507749831
Prove my peer reviewed sources wrong (you cant)

>>507740447 (OP)
Iran? What Iran? That’s greater israel sir. It was promised to them 80 years ago

>>507740447 (OP)
they can technically build it, anyone can technically build it, retard, logistically is impossible to do without the rest of the world noticing.
The reason USA and Israel doesnt want a country that is officially at war with them and officially demands the total extermination of jews and americans I think is clear. I'm not defending fucking jews but I think the logic behind is pretty obvious.

>>507744693
Nah, this type of tyranny is typical for a civilization that specializes in doublespeak.

>>507749988
Nukes not being real is perhaps the most retarded conspiracy theory of all time behind flat-Earth theory.

>>507749988
Yes and the earth is flat too!

>>507740447 (OP)
>the us managed to muh science the nuke
wrong retard
>J. Robert Oppenheimer
Uh uhm his name is german because hes american ok! very good mutts, very good!

>>507740447 (OP)
Nukes are fake. Iran is building atomic energy and the jews kvetch because they want their oil.

>>507741078
>they most likely already have built nukes, lots of them but haven't tested them out yet to reveal to the world they already built one
If you are right, there is a fair chance that we could wake up to Tel Aviv being nuked. But the implications of what that woould cause are horrifying.

Bucke up, bros. We're cooked.

>>507740447 (OP)
>Why can't Iran build a fucking nuke?

Iran has nukes
Iran has chemical weapons
Iran has hypersonics
Everyone but you, you shriveling faggot, knows this. This is why Israel has been trying to lure support against Iran by blaming Iran on all the dumb shit Mossad has been doing the past year and a half in the middle east. They are shooting bottle rockets at shit with proxy armies and blaming Iran. Leveling Gaza and blaming Iran. They are doing tons of dumb shit and blaming it on Iran so they can hopefully forment some support to have backup to take on Iran because Israel / Mossad knows Iran is the only people left in the middle east that can take Israel down. Israel is scared to death of Iran because they know they have nukes and hypersonics so they are doing all they can to try to get the JewNited States of JewMerica to back them in a military invasion or bombing to weaken / level Iran so the Jews can go in and take Iran over.

https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/5%20reasons%20we%20go%20to%20war/

We went into Iraq, leveled it, stole the gold and turned it over to the Rothschilds who implemented a FED literally on day 5 after we took over.
We went into Afghanistan, leveled it, overthrew their government, and turned it over to the Rothschilds who literally implemented a FED within the week
We went into every other country in the middle east with the same objective, EVERY TIME, take it over, install a puppet who will take bribes, let the Rothschilds build a new FED, steal a bunch of gold, and take over the oil.
Notice what happens to every country that doesnt have a Rothschild controlled FED. They always get bombed to shit and taken over. Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea are on the list

Syria just fell in early December anon.... Iran is next.

>>507751434
>Iran is building atomic energy and the jews kvetch because they want their oil.

BINGO!!!

the same 5 reasons we always go to war.


https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/5%20reasons%20we%20go%20to%20war/

1) the Rothschilds want a FED in that country to control the money
2) the Kikes in Kontrol want to be able to buy the oil at a price they want to pay for it. If the person in that country controlling the oil wont sell it to them at a price they wanna pay, they overthrow that person and install a puppet that will sell them the oil at the price they want to pay.
3) gold. The Kikes in Kontrol are like raccoons and love shiny things and cant keep their hands off it. They want to go in and take over control of the gold
4) assets and minerals. The Kikes in Kontrol want to take over the minerals, assets, drugs, in order to continually have power and money flowing off the books
5) people, the Kikes in Kontrol want to control the people

>>507740710
How does it feel to have a double digit IQ?

If what you proposed is true, holy shit, the nothintolla and nullas are the dumbest people to ever exist. Iran unironically deserves to be defeated if they had no designs on becoming a nuclear state especially after seeing the downfall of Saddam, Gaddafi, and Assad. Lmao. Imagine being an oil rich state that is so naive and childish that you unironically think nuclear power will benefit your citizens in some 40 years when the LCOE is realized and are so committed to this that they endure sanctions, ostracization, and the impropriety of appearing to do what anyone with an IQ over 120 would think is a no brainer, with regional and international antagonists with a track record of decades of sabotage and regime ending. Wow what a fucking great idea! Wow bro, sure was worth the carbon emissions reduction. Could they possibly, maybe, be this stupid???? All for their citizens????? Have you considered going back to the redditor because you talk just like them and share their same retarded thought process? Jesus fucking Christ.

The ONLY reason for Iran to get nuclear power was to get nukes. They failed hard. If they had nukes none of this would have happened, dummy.

You have a threshold midwit, a 96-100 IQ take. Based on how stupid Iran has been the past decade or two, with all the flag raising and cucking out, you might actually be right. Religious belief also influences this level of retardation, bro we're going to do it for peaceful reasons and for our people because Skyman won't let anything bad happen and will reward us for doing the heckin right thing!

Absolute dumbest post on /pol/ of all time award goes to you. The country big nonsequitur proves how big of a brainlet you are. It's such a brain damaged post that you might be a based retard and actually have gleamed actual insight into the mental gymnastics of the incompetents and retards leading Iran based on their total nuxual infertility after 40 years.

>>507750897
>>507751152
Hello moische. Sorry I'm debunking your political fear mongering tool. All you can do is strawman my argument.