Thread 507812379

Would it be the worst combat arena for modern foot soldiers yet?

Hypothetically, of course. I highly doubt an invasion would actually happen

>>507812379 (OP)
Anyone who served in Afghanistan would definitely find some things familiar. However, Iran is very rocky and mountainous - a terrain type that is historically difficult to overcome. A ground war in this environment would be a strategic error of epic proportions. It would cost trillions of dollars in armaments to "bunker bust" a place like that.

>>507812379 (OP)
anything outside of high tempo raids would be an absolute shitshow.

>>507812596
>>507812622
Maybe they’ll just hire some Kurdish insurgents to do the door kicking, now that I think about it

>>507812379 (OP)
Would be a cakewalk. US has been using Ukraine as a testing ground and studying it since 2022. US will be using a massive amount of drones.

Iranians are Muslims too. They will surrender as soon as they get a chance. Iran's population is surprisingly pretty secular and not as radical as other Islamic countries. We wouldn't see a heavy resistance like in Iraq.

Easy Jewish victory as always.

>>507812379 (OP)
Why is the US involved in this shit??? Do you really love the kikes that much?

>>507812379 (OP)
Just make sure you start a Western Legion and let other English speaking White people join up and help out. Our own armies fucking suck and I'd rather join a good one.

No. Assuming that it’s an actual war and not a forever occupation like in Afghanistan, we would steamroll Iran in a matter of months. It would be just like Iraq basically.

>>507812832
I'm sure there are some lessons learned from Afghanistan for dealing with mountainous regions but also the objective would be different. Plus, as you say, the people are more secular, probably a bit more educated so maybe less of like herding cats as it was with Afghanis. But who knows. At least I think we'd get more drone footage

>>507812596
Afghanistan is the same. Rocky and mountainous.

Everyone forgets that Iran fought a war with Iraq for 8 years in the 80s and it was a complete stalemate. They were no more powerful than Iraq was. Now a lot can change in 40 years but the idea that Iran is more powerful now is kinda preposterous.

The real issue is the involvement of other countries, other factions, and a potential conflict between Israel and Turkey that would set the region on fire. In a post-Arab Spring world the Middle East is a quagmire so even if you win there you actually lose. Look how pointless Iraq was in retrospect. That’s the optimistic scenario.

Kikes couldn't beat Gaza and think they can beat an actual big ass country like Iran? lmao kikes couldn't handle the firstwave of bottle rockets Iran sent. This loser ass kikes are about to bend over and take it.

I thought PRC backed the Taliban, they would probably funnel drone swarms in through Afghanistan or something

>>507813873
Gaza is an occupation war. Occupation wars are never successful. It’s a totally different thing than making a bee line for a capital to hang the leader.

>>507813244
Israel has a massive black male data base on the worlds powerful. Trump is 99% likely in the Epstein files with film. They have it and are blackmailkng him into doing it.
The only people in the country that love Israel are the boomers.

>>507812379 (OP)
We have plenty of experience in the sandbox, but we should not be going back there under any fucking circumstances. 20+ years is long enough.

>>507813702
This really makes me think about how small a part of the world the erstwhile white countries are

>>507812379 (OP)
Middle Eastern wars in the 80s & 90's, and even later incursions like Iraq war, Afghanistan were good exposure tests with real life meat in uniforms. It was great training, but unfortunately a lot of soldiers with prior experience are aged out and contract complete, which is a good thing since they are easily bricked after years of ingesting propaganda saying they were there for no reason, died or maimed for nothing.

We need fresh zoomers, COD soldiers that have the drive to kill, level up and know the lingo and mannerisms. Give them the sickest guns, give them effective armor, learn from our past wars mistakes and use the tricks from the Middle East wars to our advantage.

We can do it, we just need a driving force to make America patriotic again and a way to shame the draft dodgers and anti patriots, kind of like the hippie pussies who spit on US soldiers during Vietnam. Make it attractive to women, make female streamers talk about how they love big strong soldiers.

We have been in the miserable desert before, its all textbook from here

>>507814257
Nice fake graph

>>507813754
Was going to say this

We will never have boots on the ground in Iran like we did in Afghanistan

>>507812379 (OP)
Place is huge nigga
Massive population
Huge mountain ranges
More ethnically homogenous than the USA

>>507814074
I disagree. Think of it as training or early level practice. You have to keep playing until you hit the "boss" level, so to speak. Iran is the final boss. After Iran and their funded/trained/supplied insurgents are gone, there will be peace in the Middle East.

We need to beat this last mission, it's kind of like leveling up in the latest Call Of Duty mission game.

HMU if you want an USAF, US Army, or Navy referral bonus btw, why settle for video games for kids and teens when you can go do the real thing? Kill some real bad guys, do some wild stuff and meet brothers who you will be friends will for the rest of your life. Bonded through blood, sweat and laughs. Do you really want to be the coward that stayed behind while all his friends and neighbors went and fought? They come home buff, disciplined and ready for the real world while you are lucky to get a pencil pusher job not replaced by AI yet. Lifetime medical insurance in an unsure future economy, VA benefits, chicks dig you, more job opportunities. Think about it. Just like missing out on a parents funeral, you will regret it for the rest of you life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlB1sfLvMQ

>>507814165
There is no way to "make" a country patriotic. If America was still white, the ZOG would have no end of ready recruits ready to massacre lizards for the empire. But because our national identity has been destroyed, there is no one in this country who sees joining the military as admirable. The traditional patriotic demographic of rural white country boys dont want to fight for nigger loving communist democrats. The mixed race mulatto and latino and asian types are more likely to side with Iran than America since they see America as white and Iran as their brown brother. In other words America is toast when it comes to militarism.

>>507814992
>chicks dig you
You had me until that one

>>507814899
Nigga I pray for Iran and pray for death of every jew but Iran isn't that homogenous and has baloch and Kurdish separatists waiting to backstab them, he'll the Azeris would probably backstab them to if it meant more clay for the Turks

>>507815358
Most of the Iranian people are pro-West. It's the regime that's the problem.

>>507815456
sure.. how popular is their navalnyi?

>>507815319
Don't ask, don't tell. If you swing that way it's 2025, even back then you could get some in the field action to debrief if you were into it. Don't ask me how I know, I just hear things.

Join up bro, seriously I would let my own sons join up today if I didn't have daughters haha

>>507815358
Yeah totally the Kurds will rise up like Iraq where they were massacred

>>507812379 (OP)
Ukraine drone warfare hell
but in the mountains

>>507812379 (OP)
Wildcard to me is China. Be ideal way to flex there muscles and test out their army against an impotent border nation.

>>507815700
K cool, there is more Azeris in Iran than Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan is Tirkeys lapdog, if you don't think the non persian ethnicities in Zoran wouldn't happily carve their chunks back out of it you're ever Mir retarded than I assume

>>507812596
Iran and Afghanistan differ substantially in their political structures, however. Afghanistan was more decentralized, with different tribes dividing up the power and making it harder to defeat. Iran has a centralized state. The war would center around the urban centers and taking out the government.
It would be more like Saddam's Iraq. Saddam's regime actually fell in a matter of months. The subsequent years of fighting was with emergent militant groups (mostly Iran backed)

Similar to Afghanistan. Mid-size conventional military that's kind of a paper tiger, hard core would just melt into the mountains and fight a guerrilla war that would make the Taliban look nuanced and reasonable.

>>507812379 (OP)
A combo of Iraq and Afghanistan. the US already destroyed Iran's navy in the 1980's so they will go in from the south. The USAF is stationed in Saudi Arabia and CENTCOM is still in Bahrain. Iraq is a puppet state of the US so they can break in from the West. The Taliban may allow the US back into Afghanistan and attack from the east. Iran is in the middle of the other side of the world relative to the US so east and west coast carrier groups will hit them constantly.

>>507812379 (OP)
same shit as iraq
i just hope they arent using drones yet

>>507812379 (OP)
>Would it be the worst combat arena
it's not feasible, just like afghan wasn't
but they tried to do it anyway
so

>>507816072
i'm old enough to remember how the Iraqi insurgency kicked the great Golem Mutt's ass

>>507816365
We have anti drone capabilities. Unless they were fiber optic (this is tech they simply do not have), we would be fine.

Ukrainian defenses were able to shoot down Iranian drones, it is not a concern. Jamming devices and jamming guns are a thing.

>>507816548
iraq was ass up in a month

>>507813841
>Now a lot can change in 40 years but the idea that Iran is more powerful now is kinda preposterous.
what idiot, they have 3 times the population of iraq, a 98% literacy rate (america has a 79% literacy rate), hypersonic missiles, a 1 million man army, and local militias trained and supported by the government all of the country, just to name a few things. it's infinitely more powerful than iraq was and how iran was in the 1980s

>>507816720
idk man 11bang bang here and we aren't told shit about the anti-drone stuff

>>507814165
nobody is going to fight for you kike, this country is 50% white at best. everyone hates you and you've ruined this country

>>507812379 (OP)
When was the last time the US military practiced and drilled for a massive naval invasion and establishing a secure beachhead? Thats going to be the biggest hurdle with heavy casualties regardless of if it is successful.

>>507817131
Yea, let's land on the beach that has a giant mountain behind it to mount our attack, brilliant

>>507813754
I looked it up. You're right. Afghanistan is like 80 percent mountains and Iran is only 60 percent.

>>507817372
Establishing a beachhead in the strait of Hormuz is the only viable way in for land invasion. This has always been the headache for the Pentagon regarding Iran. That and the logistical nightmare of preparing for it.

>>507812832
>using Ukraine as a testing ground
nearly identical terrain. good choice.

>>507812379 (OP)
Dip
Ripits
Chuck Norris jokes
Occasional firefight, mostly hadjis shooting each other.
Kid Rock USO shows
Porn on thumb drives

Then you’ll get pic related and come home.

>>507814165
sign tappers are right and vindicated.
Go yourself if really want this war.
I will watch you get your guts blown outside of your body by a drone.

>>507814257
Now include expected suicide rates based on the total numbers and basic demographics

No need to invade, just bomb the hell out of them and naval blockade

>>507817131
>Thats going to be the biggest hurdle with heavy casualties regardless of if it is successful.
Not if they simply come in from Iraq.

>>507817821
are those tiny ass cans of ripits still a thing in the military? I remember those getting sent to us by the case in afghanistan. I kept an empty ammo can full of them when i was in the turret. so plentiful I would hurl them at the bastard kids who threw rocks at me.

>>507817645
If they have a decent stockpile of missiles in the area it won't last unless they do it from multiple points, also Pakistan could interfere. It's terrible no matter how you spin it. No fortifications, no way to gauge Iran's missile supply/ally support, no major targets in the area, it's in a region where the US is hated by nearly all of their neighbors. There's no 'viable' way at all.

It seems unlikely that U.S. ground troops will be deployed to Iran. American involvement will likely remain limited, focusing mainly on air support to aid Israel in targeting and destroying fortified bunkers

>>507812379 (OP)
We have already been programmed for a fight in Tehran.
>It is still the best BF map ever made.

>>507812379 (OP)
Nothing is going to happen

They'd probably steamroll the place then get IED'd for 20 years.

>>507812379 (OP)
Once there it would be real easy to switch sides and frag officers who tell you to do things that hurt people who are stopping the genocide.

>>507812379 (OP)
Khalabibs can't fight and are always under equipped. The real warzone is the Whitemans war in Ukraine. That's real hell.

>>507812379 (OP)

Nobody needs military ground forces there. Not immediately. The public of Iran are going to eat Khomeini. He's going to be eaten by the people of Iran. You don't need ground forces for it. Just a few more bombs

You might use spec ops supporting any population overthrowing. Also destroying any mountain bases.

But it's literally over for one of the worst nation's at war on the planet. These guys were very bad it. Never seen anybody as bad at it. Unless we're talking cannibals. They are so awful at war.

>>507812379 (OP)
None because Western troops have never been to war.
Dirt floor shepherds aren’t soldiers. They have as much tactical acumen as air soft players.
Iran has a professional army and a paramilitary force.
They have tanks, drones, artillery, native manufacturing, an airforce, a huge population.
Afghanistan has none of those things.
Iraq really didn’t have those either.
The US isn’t able to one-shot Irans armored, mechanized, or air divisions.
Iran is highly motivated compared to Iraq.
The US troops outnumbered the Iraqi troops at every point of engagement with either infantry, armor, or mechanized, plus air support.
This will not be the case with Iran.

Ukraine has shown a determined nation with a large stockpile of arms can resist shock and awe tactics.

>>507818538
>Not if they simply come in from Iraq
Yeah just march infantry over the eastern mountains like you are Alexander the great and have no support vehicles or tanks and no place to safely land aircraft.
>>507819294
>There's no 'viable' way at all
Not true. Even though its a logistical nightmare and preparations could take up to a year and casualties would likely rack up into the tens of thousands in the first few days and the endevour would probably bankrupt the US it is doable. Or at least it was when the Pentagon was analyzing what would be necessary and drawing up plans in the early 2000's. Ever wonder why the Bush regime never went after Iran back then, its because the Pentagon told them it couldn't be done with all the assets bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan, that it would be a long haul needing millions of boots on the ground.

Iranians don't want to fight like the Taliban, they just want to live normal lives without retards in power (that includes both the Ayatollahs and Israeli puppets).

>>507812832
No we haven’t. We have been extremely wasteful in Ukraine refusing to adapt because boomers want their toys to work.
The entire US arsenal was built for warfare against the Red Army on the European plain, it resulted in a deadlock in Ukraine, and Ukrainians are significantly tougher than the average American.
Average US soldier is a hick from Georgia, not high quality or tough.
The Southern or Former Confederate Anglos and New England Anglos who all make up the bulk of the US forces are low t unintelligent physically weak specimens.
Sorry you had to hear it from me but Anglos are terrible soldiers, they should stick to producing pretty women.

>>507813452
How? Iraq didn’t have drones or the size Iran does. Iraq was mostly flat and has unguarded borders.
Iran has heavily guarded borders, corridor regions with the Alborz/Zagros/Himalayan ranges, and their army is much larger much more highly motivated.

What's your warrior?

>>507813841
Iran in the 80s was recovering from their color revolutions from the past century.
They have more than surpassed previous benchmarks.
>>507814165
Out of touch.

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>>507816365
Irans cross country missile sites means any U.S. forward operating base would be hammered relentlessly by high yield HE missiles.
You can not prepare an armored spearhead if you’re being hit with missiles constantly.

>>507813452
thermals don't work well in the desert when EVERYTHING is hot, and they have them too now, and if they know how to shield from ir it won't be easy to march zoomers into killing hills

>>507812379 (OP)
Its a more rocky and mountainous version of Afghanistan with fortified underground tunnel networks scattered across the country. Though US bunker busters would be able to crack those facilities these are massive networks and bunker busters are not cheap. A ground game would suck and be terrible. Iran is a more well armed enemy than the Taliban. Suicide drones, pill box nests, snipers, fog that even fucks Iranian helicopter travel. Its a recipe for a shit time.

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>>507815998
Iranian azeris and many minorities are very assimilated. Theyve been trying to get them to rise up in insurgency for the past 20 years, nothing has worked just some shitposting here and there online.

>>507823011
Even if 1% want to The country will be in insurgency for decades.

>>507812379 (OP)
Battlefield 3 was predictive programming for this war

>>507814019
>Israel has a massive black male data base
Fucking kek. So, that is where our beloved BBC posters get their material from?

>>507812379 (OP)
Like none. Whatever experience they had is 22 years out of date, and enough veterns either retired or killed themselves since.