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Anonymous ID: r1YDRcYU
6/18/2025, 2:49:33 PM No.507851625
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I think that there's a fundamental difference in how Jews and Christians interpret the Old Testament.

When Christians read the Old Testament, they see the Jews as the whole of humanity. In the Christian mind, every Christian is a Biblical Jew, and their enemies are those who threaten their Christian communities. Everything is framed with the additional context that God would eventually introduce the new covenant and make us all equals, as He always intended.
When Jews read the Old Testament, they do so from an ethno-nationalistic perspective, seeing themselves as blessed with special privileges that allow them to slay the gentiles with impunity and give each other special treatment.
>the Judeo-Christian mind
Some cuckold Boomer shit best described by having Jordon Peterson do an interpretive dance.
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Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 2:53:19 PM No.507851930
>>507851625 (OP)
>they see the Jews as the whole of humanity
where did you get that idea from? you couldn't be more wrong.
>seeing themselves as blessed with special privileges that allow them to slay the gentiles with impunity and give each other special treatment.
thats more likely to come from talmudic sources though perhaps the OT allows them some in group preference in certain matter. cant recall anything specific right now. but theres nothing really wrong about some in group preference anyway. we need more of it.
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Anonymous ID: mfo2J1AvUnited States
6/18/2025, 2:58:37 PM No.507852346
>>507851625 (OP)
Yeah, I'm a Christian and not at all.
Mosaic Law was for those Jews following Moses and up until Jesus showed up with new manna, his body.
In the Bible manna is knowledge from heaven.
You are perhaps confused because the promise to Abraham from God is worded in such a way that you can argue that it's a promise to the Jewish people.
But Jesus said that's not the case, it's a promise to the whole world, so long as they have faith like Abraham.
Anonymous ID: r1YDRcYU
6/18/2025, 2:58:52 PM No.507852366
>>507851930
>where did you get that idea from?
The fact that every priest and pastor teachers the lessons taught in the Old Testament as applicable to everybody, not just ethnic Jews. You're not talk to think of the Biblical Jews as a foreign people playing by different rules. To Christians, they're proto-Christians.
>cant recall anything specific right now.
How about the fact that they spend the entirety of the Old Testament running around slaughtering everyone for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
> but theres nothing really wrong about some in group preference anyway. we need more of it.
Except that the big problem that people are starting to have with the Jews is realizing how they tell whites that they need to open their borders and not have any in-group preference while showing extreme in-group preference for themselves.
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Anonymous ID: lACkAINXIreland
6/18/2025, 3:02:32 PM No.507852649
I know one Jew and I asked him something along those lines. He said God told him the Old Testament applies to everyone.
Anonymous ID: mfo2J1AvUnited States
6/18/2025, 3:05:30 PM No.507852879
>>507852366
>see Jew do somehting smart
Oh don't do that, he's Jewish you're not.
Foolishness.
Anonymous ID: 3nAEu6VEUnited States
6/18/2025, 3:08:36 PM No.507853129
>>507851625 (OP)
kikes and christkikes both read the torah/tanakh and self-insert as the (((chosen)))
Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 3:13:37 PM No.507853508
>>507852366
>the lessons taught in the Old Testament as applicable to everybody, not just ethnic Jews.
which lessons? the NT says that the moral law is Gods standard for everyone, but we are not taught that the sacrificial, dietary, ceremonial laws are applicable to everyone. you need to be more specific.
>To Christians, they're proto-Christians.
sort of, as in the sense that they are the conduit through which the Gospel was meant to be proclaimed to the rest of the world. what sense do you mean it as?
>slaughtering everyone for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
what an interestingly biased view. they are told quite specifically where and when and who they are to fight against and, yes, slaughter. But do you think those groups were innocent or something? Do you not think God has the right to punish them for their sins? Also keep in mind that the israelites were slaughtered too when they disobeyed God.
>they tell whites that they need to open their borders and not have any in-group preference while showing extreme in-group preference for themselves.
sure, thats a problem. surprise surprise, jews are also sinners.
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Anonymous ID: EmFIdGq7United States
6/18/2025, 3:19:34 PM No.507854066
The OT is a series of many different agreements between God and man. Such as the agreement with Noah, Joseph, Jacob, Joshua, Samuel, David, etc. These series of timely and limited agreements include many tragic lessons of what not to do and therefore many wise conclusions can be drawn such as to fear God and only worship God.

The New Testament is a timeless agreement and Jesus tells us what we should do.
Anonymous ID: Kjoh8vjPUnited States
6/18/2025, 3:37:06 PM No.507855634
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>>507851625 (OP)
>When Jews read the Old Testament, they do so from an ethno-nationalistic perspective, seeing themselves as blessed with special privileges that allow them to slay the gentiles with impunity and give each other special treatment.
there is no difference this is exactly how crossniggers interpret the bible too. christianity is a literal jewish supremacist ideology
Anonymous ID: 2iMkclSPLatvia
6/18/2025, 3:37:36 PM No.507855687
>>507851625 (OP)
Except the jewish interpretation is the correct one, and your christian interpretation is just wishful thinking. You wuzz not the jews and you will never be the Yahweh's chosen people. In fact, you are the enemy of jews, and the bible is very clear that the jewish messiah will conquer the world and goyim will kneel at his feet.
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Anonymous ID: r1YDRcYU
6/18/2025, 3:39:12 PM No.507855854
>>507853508
>which lessons?
All of them. Every story and passage in the Bible and what you should learn from it. That's sorta what they do.
>But do you think those groups were innocent or something?
The Bible doesn't say. With the additional Christian layer of God viewing all people as equal, that makes sense. Without that layer? It's up for interpretation.
>sure, thats a problem. surprise surprise, jews are also sinners.
You don't see other high IQ groups taking advantage of other people's goodwill to fuck them over to the extent that the Jews do. The Judeo-Christians worship the ground the Jews walk on, and how do Jews reward them? Constant slander and subversion. Moving foreigners into their communities like they've been conquered by the Assyrians. The thing that separates Judaism from other major religions around the world is that the others don't teach their followers that they're special based on their ethnicity. They believe that they have a divine right to rule, as taught in the OT. The reason why they hate Jesus to the extent that they changed Christmas to Xmas (the only group that's so offended by the "Christ" in "Christmas" that they want it gone; Marxism is also a product of Jewish culture, with Marx himself being the son of a Rabi) is because he repudiated that and made Jews equal to all other people.
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Anonymous ID: r1YDRcYU
6/18/2025, 3:39:45 PM No.507855901
>>507855687
There you go. Case in point,
Anonymous ID: cXejPOz4Netherlands
6/18/2025, 3:39:51 PM No.507855916
>>507851625 (OP)
I guess so, but I don't read it that way.
For me it's old Canaanite folklore after centuries of oral tradition fucked it up.
The story of Adam and Eve is the story of how the Scots/Picts/Brythons came down from the mountains into what we today call Edinburgh (gar dúnn Éydinn = warm nearby the rock at a(the river) Éydinn) and learned animal husbandry, and were told not to eat fungus.
Canaanite merchants picked this story up from the Brythons they traded with for tin in the Bronze Age. Adam = redhead.
Then Exodus takes the exile of Akhenaten by Ramses II and turns it into a completely different myth.
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Anonymous ID: G8aYwRcvUnited States
6/18/2025, 3:45:47 PM No.507856395
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step one: understand that the Torah aka the 'old testament' was fabricated in the 270s BCE using Plato and other sources. It isn't ancient and Noah, Moses, Solomon, David, etc didn't exist.Picrel
Step two: Understand that Marcion wrote the first gospel and coined the phrases new and old testament. His jesus was not the son of Yahweh, but of an unknown loving god. The catholic cult took thay book, rewrote it and judaized it. When they gained power through Constantine they stomped out their competition (including Marcionism) with the force of the state.
Anonymous ID: Bf1U1qrbUnited Kingdom
6/18/2025, 3:46:26 PM No.507856447
>>507855916
adam and eve and atlantis and noah's ark and enkidu are the same story: humans were at peace with nature and were stronger, livelier beings which we descend from those of whom lost their prior civilization from some catastrophe-- moral or physical. Whether it be the city of Atlantis is swallowed by the sea or Enkidu being corrupted by a whore or the world filled with violence and everyone descending from small populations of survivors who clung to that prior higher moral state.
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6/18/2025, 3:57:33 PM No.507857379
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6/18/2025, 4:03:00 PM No.507857834
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6/18/2025, 4:03:06 PM No.507857844
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>>507851625 (OP)
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6/18/2025, 4:04:35 PM No.507857983
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>>507857844
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Anonymous ID: 1H0GIqy3United States
6/18/2025, 4:14:56 PM No.507858950
>>507851625 (OP)
I've never read something so retarded. Covenant theology is basically like one of the fundamental aspects of Christian belief since the very beginning. It's literally like the core theme of the entire religion.
>God has physical worldy covenant with a group of people
>makes prophecies to these people
>fulfills old covenants with a messiah who brings a spiritual covenant
>the old worldly kingdom rejects spiritual covenant out of pride.
>God casts them from the kingdom of God and brings in new peoples

It literally discusses this topic in detail in Romans chapters 7-11ish. It directly handles the issue of how the jews should be regarded by believers.

Anyways, the only difference in how the Christians and Jews view the old testament is that Jews think they are still the chosen people and the physical covenant has not been fulfilled. Christians (should) believe the covenant was fulfilled and they rejected the new covenant and are now fallen.
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Anonymous ID: 2iMkclSPLatvia
6/18/2025, 4:21:54 PM No.507859576
>>507855854
Jews don't hate Jesus. They're very bitter about all the suffering they had experienced at the hands of xtians in the last 2000 years, but they also understand that if it were not for rabbi Yeshua that judaism and jews would not exist today, and are therefore thankful to Yeshua ben Josef for spreading jewish fairy tales to every corner of the world and for convincing europeans to abandon their pagan gods in favor of a single jewish god. The biggest xtian shills today are jews like Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro who are telling millions of whites to go to church and pray to jewish god. It's only thanks to xtians that jews received protection in roman empire and were allowed to exist and thrive, instead of being assimilated into other populations, or persecuted like pagans. Also, the more xtianity thrived and succeeded in the world, the more jews were convinced that all the suffering they've been through since the time of exodus was not for naught and that their prophecies are actually real, and that eventually jewish messiah will come and save them, and make them rulers of the world as prophesized. Basically, xtianity fuelled their cope and kept the jewish faith going.
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Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 4:29:29 PM No.507860251
>>507858950
You expect these people to get it. /pol/ is full of low iq atheists who think they understand the bible. Old Testament is mostly a foreshadowing. The story of Esau is a perfect example of Old Judea giving up their birthright.

Another example of foreshadowing is the story of Cain and Abel. Cain offered the fruits of his labors to God, and God rejected them. But Abel offered a lamb. (Foreshadowing the Lamb of God).

Or when Moses struck the rock and waters came out. (Jesus Christ says hes the living waters)(Also the striking of the rock was symbolism for the crucifixion). Moses was punished for striking the rock twice.

There's tons of stuff like this. People just see the physical. That's why the Jews completely missed the mark thinking when the Messiah came he was going to conquer Rome physically.
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Anonymous ID: j1NDRLdzUnited States
6/18/2025, 4:41:56 PM No.507861312
>>507860251
It's because of dispensationalism supplanting covenant theology. My greatest hope is that Israel is wipped off the map so that this heresy can die for good. Also I'll add another example to your list. Judah has twin boys with Tamar. The first one Zerah had a scarlet thread wrapped around his hand to denote that he was the first, but then he went back in and his brother Perez came out, becoming the firstborn. Perez became an ancestor of Christ. Now tell me what other group of people wear scarlett threads around their hands?
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Anonymous ID: r1YDRcYU
6/18/2025, 4:45:44 PM No.507861649
>>507858950
>>507860251
You're missing the point if you think that I'm talking about the scholars who spend their lives debating this stuff. I'm talking about how the average modern lay Christian who goes to church on Sunday morning and lives a moderately Christian lifestyle otherwise sees the Jews. Basically, the average Christian who makes the day-to-day decisions that truly define Christian culture in the workplace, out on the town, etc. They go to church, they get taught lessons from the OT, they basically see themselves as the Jews in the stories (or at least see them as their predecessors, like how we might see a group of medieval British people) and that's why they view the Jews as their people. And I'm talking about average Jews as well.

>>507859576
>Oy vey! We didn't do anything to be chased out of every country that we've every country we've ever settled in! People just arbitrarily decide that they don't like us!
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Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 4:52:19 PM No.507862271
>>507855854
>Every story and passage in the Bible and what you should learn from it.
Ok, i see what you mean now. The NT does say that what happened to the israelites can be used as an example of Gods justice, Gods care for His people, and how He interacts with humanity. Thats quite true. Whats wrong with that? God chose and used the people of israel as a way to show and teach us things about Himself.
>The Bible doesn't say.
It does in some cases. For example Pharoah had God harden his heart because of his continued refusals. That was a judgement and what followed were the punishments. It also says that all are sinners and under the judgement of God, and that God does not judge unjustly. We know from various statements that the peoples which the israelites were sent against followed idolatry, human sacrifice and general worshiping of false gods and demons.
>taking advantage of other people's goodwill to fuck them over to the extent that the Jews do.
everybody fucks everyone over all the time, its always been this way because everyone is a sinner.
>The Judeo-Christians worship the ground the Jews walk on, and how do Jews reward them?
Some may do but far from all. such generalizations are not helpful. as for how jews respond..well sure, some do that. they are engaging in sinful, prideful behaviors when they do that wort of thing. Why do you expect them to be wonderful people? Thats not why God chose them.
>Moving foreigners into their communities like they've been conquered by the Assyrians
and our own people are entirely complicit in doing that to us. many of them are completely on board with such policies. to just see the jew is ridiculous
>They believe that they have a divine right to rule, as taught in the OT.
where does it say that?
>they changed Christmas to Xmas
and all the atheists cheered
Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 4:53:17 PM No.507862363
>>507855687
>the bible is very clear that the jewish messiah will conquer the world and goyim will kneel at his feet.
EVERYONE. ALL peoples, tribes, tongues etc.
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Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 4:54:22 PM No.507862458
>>507861312
>people wear scarlett threads around their hands?
Kabbalah
Whats funny is that they don't even understand the significance of it. Yeah zionist dispensationalism has done a number on the church. The end seems to be at hand though.
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Anonymous ID: Ez3/iFixUnited States
6/18/2025, 4:57:32 PM No.507862729
>>507853508
Can you be more specific and tell me which sacrificial, dietary, ceremonial laws are no longer applicable? The mosaic law had 613 separate laws, out of those which ones are we to still follow?
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Anonymous ID: Qrev7kCIUnited Kingdom
6/18/2025, 4:58:42 PM No.507862836
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>threadly reminder the Genesis creation story and flood myth are plagiarized from the Babylonian Enuma Elish and the story of Utnapishtim in the the Epic of Gilgamesh because it was written when the jews were captive in Babylon
>threadly reminder Moses' origin story is plagiarized from Sargon of Akkad (the actual one, not the nerd chud from Swindon)
>threadly reminder the ten plagues in Exodus and Yahweh being a wilderness deity sending disasters against his own people and being represented by snakes is because the jews were plagiarizing Set and Apophis and did it to troll the Egyptians
>threadly reminder the jews themselves started out as some Canaanite gypsies and Yahweh was originally just another Canaanite deity and their origin story with Abraham is utterly fabricated
>threadly reminder that all the books of prophecy like Isaiah and Jeremiah were just cope sessions written after the fact
>threadly reminder Daniel was written in 100BC~, long after the time its set, Darius the Mede is a fictional character and details about the Persian court are inaccurate, the fourth beast is an elephant because Antiochus IV had them on his coins since the prophecies were actually anti-Antiochus IV propaganda but incorrectly predicts how he will die
>threadly reminder Jesus' origin is fabricated, there was no census or killing of the infants and the virgin birth was copied from other characters at the time like Mithras
>threadly reminder Jesus was just some middle-class educated jew LARPing trying to only save the jews by inciting a revolt against Rome and plagiarized his teachings from Stoicism
>Threadly reminder Revelation is just coded anti-Nero propaganda
>Threadly reminder Islam is an even worse plagiarism of all of the aforementioned and actually started out as another pro Jewish Messianic movement before turning into a political conquest tool
Anonymous ID: 6ri0UQGaUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:00:36 PM No.507863009
Father Abraham had many sons
And many sons had faaather Abraham
I am one of them
And so are you
So let’s just praise the lord.
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Anonymous ID: 9CLOapCWUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:00:49 PM No.507863026
>>507862458
>Kabbalah
>Whats funny is that they don't even understand the significance of it.
Yep, well most normies don't think past what's written but for someone in the know? Yeah that was a VERY revealing passage to me.
>The end seems to be at hand though.
The end of dispensationalism? I could see it.
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Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 5:06:12 PM No.507863537
>>507862729
theres no temple and no priesthood because God destroyed the templed. this is because Christ was the final and actual sacrifice. any further bloody sacrifices are an insult to Christ.

The dietary laws were not carried over to the Chritians, as shown in Acts.

The moral law, as in the ten commandments and anything stemming from them were talked about by Jesus, so we consider them to be valid.

That doesn't mean that all of the OT stuff isn't useful for guidance and teaching, because it all means something and points to Christ and/or demonstrates Gods standards, but salvation depends on faith in Christ, not abiding by laws that nobody other than Him has ever kept. Through faith in Christ we are counted as having kept the law, and He is counted as having broken it like we have. The great exchange is what its sometimes called.
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Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:09:13 PM No.507863807
>>507861649
I apologize I did miss your point.
>they basically see themselves as the Jews in the stories
Well those that do are in the wrong. Also I wouldn't want to place myself in that position. All throughout the old testament Israel was judged for their rebellion. Constantly worshiping other Gods, Sacrificing to idols. Golden calf ext.
Anyone even atheists see how it turned out for that nation time and time again. Scattered by the Assyrians, Babylonians. Conquered by Rome. Old Testament Jews rejected Christ then 40 years later their nation was obliterated by Rome.

Any Christian who wishes to self insert as OT Jews need to reexamine why God scattered them so often.

Also even the New Testament says Jews are contrary to men

1 Thessalonians 2
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
17 But we, brethren, being taken from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavoured the more abundantly to see your face with great desire.
18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.
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Anonymous ID: 2iMkclSPLatvia
6/18/2025, 5:10:15 PM No.507863909
>>507862363
The goyim will kneel at the feet of rabbi Yoshua ben Josef, as prophesized by desert jews. So based. Praise Yahweh!
>>507863009
No european descends from fictional jewish characters. We've been here since upper paleolithic. All modern europeans descend primarily from three races - anatolian farmers, european hunter gatherers and western steppe herders. You wuz not jews and you will never be jews. You have nothing to do with desert foreskin merchants. Stop denying your own history and ancestry, you pathetic cuckold.
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Anonymous ID: AZzkTI4wUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:10:18 PM No.507863917
>>507860251
I’m not sure what you are going on about in regard to the subject of this thread, OT being foreshadowing for NT is common knowledge “he will crush your head and you will strike his heel” is one of the most read passages in church
Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:27:25 PM No.507865770
>>507863026
>The end of dispensationalism
could be, seems like big things have been happening. This video series is interesting. Seems to break apart the common End times view of Zionist dispensationalism found in churches.

Revelation in the heavens
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGaisyN1k-Qz4B0AJ8lyC7PvHLRExglDY
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6/18/2025, 5:29:55 PM No.507866028
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>>507851625 (OP)
>they see the Jews as the whole of humanity.
what
>In the Christian mind, every Christian is a Biblical Jew
no
>their enemies are those who threaten their Christian communities
obviously
>God would eventually introduce the new covenant and make us all equals
It's a New Testament, not a new covenant. We aren't jews, we have a faith in Jesus to save us because we admit to sin making up equals right now as we stand.
>we should care how Jews read the OT
no, we are not jews, we are christians who have faith in Jesus being Christ. The Jews should convert.
Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 5:31:45 PM No.507866228
>>507865770
God is eternal, there is no end to dispensations. Only an end to how far the human can imagine into the future.
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Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 5:33:33 PM No.507866418
>>507863909
>So based. Praise Yahweh!
the NT clearly says that EVERY knee shall bow to Christ. That is based and yes its good to Praise Him.
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Anonymous ID: 2iMkclSPLatvia
6/18/2025, 5:34:08 PM No.507866475
>>507863537
Romans destroyed the temple and Judea in the name of Jupiter. Jews then invented xtianity as a last ditch effort to wage ideological war on romans, which proved to be very successful as it eventually conquered roman gods and destroyed Rome.
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Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:34:32 PM No.507866525
>>507866228
Thats why I said Zionist dispensationalism, not dispensations.
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 5:37:00 PM No.507866801
>>507866525
I'm not a Jew so I don't know kabbala or care to.
Red Dragon ID: RERZkyGWUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:37:47 PM No.507866883
Have you read it all, cause it also documents massive Jew failures along with massive Jew successes. And there are more failures than successes.

Having your concubine raped and murdered, then instead of finding the killers, cutting her up into pieces and sending her pieces to all parts of the country is not a win.

Having the greatest intelligent king in the world and marry an army of women to join pagans is not a win.

Falling to the Assyrians and Babylonians is not a win.
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Anonymous ID: w5ACK7QGUnited Kingdom
6/18/2025, 5:38:45 PM No.507866973
>>507851625 (OP)
I see what you’re saying. A lot itt are missing the point.
Most Christians see the OT as a parable of walking in faith and overcoming trials against all odds, mirroring their own lives and full of applicable wisdom and inspiration - whether or not it actually happened is inconsequential to them. The Jews see it as literal history.
That distinction marks the schism between those that accepted Christ and those that rejected him. He said the holy land isn’t some fruity utopia, it’s within. The Christians got it, the Jews are still scowling to this day. It’s a skill difference. Jews can’t into abstract thinking
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Red Dragon ID: RERZkyGWUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:38:53 PM No.507866988
That book specifically shows when Jews get cocky and want to deep throat pagan devil shit, they fuck up royally.
Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 5:40:15 PM No.507867133
>>507866475
>Romans destroyed the temple and Judea in the name of Jupiter
do you think that happened without Gods permission? the previous times their temple was destroyed was a result of israel sinning and the last time was no different. Remember how the curtain was split in two when Christ died? that is a big hint.
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Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 5:42:03 PM No.507867326
>>507866973
to be fair they've gotten pretty good at that since having their temple destroyed and being kicked out of israel for a couple thousand years. but the OT stuff did happen. Archeology supports it over and over again.
Anonymous ID: 2iMkclSPLatvia
6/18/2025, 5:42:10 PM No.507867337
>>507866418
I will not praise your jew god, golem. Xtianity will die in our lifetime. At least in Europe. It will likely succeed in Africa and Asia, but at least whites will finally wise up to this 2000 year old jew sham.
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Anonymous ID: cRtn6RGGSweden
6/18/2025, 5:42:33 PM No.507867382
>>507851625 (OP)
>When Christians read the Old Testament, they see the Jews as the whole of humanity. In the Christian mind, every Christian is a Biblical Jew
This is just blatantly wrong.
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Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:44:13 PM No.507867557
>>507867133
Also Rome destroyed the temple in (70 ce.) 40 years after the crucifixion. OT Israel was punished to wander the desert for 40 years.
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 5:45:16 PM No.507867669
>>507867337
It's always fun to see people like yourself in these threads shouting
>I don't care about this

If you don't care then why waste your time, otherwise you are here and we care about you God Bless
Red Dragon ID: RERZkyGWUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:47:37 PM No.507867908
King Saul was told to annihilate the Ammonites. Why? Cause they ate people and fucked animals.
Saul goes and takes a bounty and brings the king back.

Samuel, the prophet, pissed off as always, comes and dresses him down and then kills the king. NOT A WIN.


David, very much an ancient hero king, killed one of his warriors to steal his wife. Not a win.

Ahab married a canaanite whore who killed an innocent man and steal his vineyard. Not a win.


These guys could be assholes. But God chose the one who "loved" Him back.

Pretty sure that book is there to remind Jews of how many times they've screwed up.
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 5:51:48 PM No.507868360
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>>507867908
>remind Jews of how many times they've screwed up.
That's how you know it was written by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, because in the Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth. They wrote down truths that were embarrassing.

If you look anywhere else in history you see kings and pharoahs and emperors destroying their own history books, wall carvings, to change the truth.
Anonymous ID: 6ri0UQGaUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:53:42 PM No.507868584
>>507863909
Jews are fake but two out of three places you mentioned are asia and out language comes from India via the sandy places.
Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 5:55:38 PM No.507868826
>>507867337
if you say so

>>507867557
i know Rome was the agent of the temple destruction. it was done by Babylon the first time.
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Anonymous ID: AZzkTI4wUnited States
6/18/2025, 5:56:35 PM No.507868929
>>507863807
>Well those that do are in the wrong. Also I wouldn't want to place myself in that position. All throughout the old testament Israel was judged for their rebellion. Constantly worshiping other Gods, Sacrificing to idols. Golden calf ext.

This all just falls under “sin”, Christians just see this as one of the ways you can stray analogous to the ways they can stray in their daily lives. “You are not like the Jews, you haven’t strayed to that degree” is not something they teach in church EVER, they say “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”, and I’m almost certain if you asked most Christian’s they’d say Jews go to heaven
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Anonymous ID: SwB6L6CyNetherlands
6/18/2025, 5:59:30 PM No.507869206
all niggers getting worked up over kike fiction need to be shamed
Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:02:08 PM No.507869474
>>507868826
Yeah I know, just wanted to back up your claim that God allowed it, just in case that guy wanted to cope more about it.
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 6:02:17 PM No.507869493
>>507868929
They don't go to heaven unless they have faith in Jesus to save them.

Jews don't have faith in Jesus to save them, they have faith in works. That they can work hard or use money to save them and buy their way into heaven.

That is the issue that Jesus died for. Straying away from that issue is spitting in Jesus' face and means they aren't real christians at all.
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Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 6:06:17 PM No.507869913
>>507869474
ah i see. appreciate it. its not always easy to get the tone of posts so wasn't sure.
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Anonymous ID: AZzkTI4wUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:07:43 PM No.507870047
>>507869493
Right but he’s not talking about your opinion, he’s talking about the general interpretation of those stories by laymen Christians and how they relate to those stories in church. Christian’s typically see Jews like misguided Christians, not as Jews
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Anonymous ID: IQQWYcRbBrazil
6/18/2025, 6:07:53 PM No.507870063
>>507852366
>entirety of the Old Testament running around slaughtering everyone
You never made it past the pentateuch, did you?
Anonymous ID: u4p80XZmUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:07:55 PM No.507870064
>>507869913
All good brother, happens to me all the time too.
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 6:09:35 PM No.507870226
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>>507870047
>he’s not talking about your opinion,
> I’m almost certain if you asked most Christian’s they’d say Jews go to heaven
Who cares about opinions here, I was just stating facts. You cannot be a Christian and not follow Jesus.
Anonymous ID: qlN0leRaUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:10:04 PM No.507870280
>>507851625 (OP)
OP is obviously not a Christian. lel
Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron

Judaism is the Old Testament (aka the Torah), it is about revenge, an eye for an eye.
Christianity is the New Testament (aka the Bible), it is about forgiveness, turn the other cheek.
Judaism is not the bearer of Christianity, but its antithesis.

there are two forks from Judaism to Christianity
first one when Jesus was a baby and the rabbis said he was not the messiah (this is Candlemas, now watered-down to Groundhog Day, so people may forget that Christianity is the ANTITHESIS of judaism) THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO FORGET
the second fork was when they killed Jesus and this was the true birth of Christianity

you would know this OP if you were Christian

Noah (not jewish)----> Abraham (not jewish)---->Isaac (not jewish)---->Jacob (not jewish)---->JUDAH is from whom the JEWS descended and they lived in JUDEA.
NONE of the biblical people BEFORE Judah are jews. It amazes me how many people do not know this.

There were 12 tribes of Israel from the 12 sons of Jacob.
ONLY the tribe from Jacob’s son Judah are ‘Jews’ (these were aka the Judaites), the other 11 Israel tribes are NOT Jewish. It also amazes me how many people do not know this, either.
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Anonymous ID: UXRReZgAGermany
6/18/2025, 6:11:27 PM No.507870420
so all the other peoples mentioned in the OT (egyptians, assyrians, babylonians, canaaites etc.) were historical but jews are just le metaphore for all of humanity?
Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 6:12:35 PM No.507870546
brothers
brothers
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>>507870064
Anonymous ID: qlN0leRaUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:12:42 PM No.507870558
2.38 billion Christians
2.38 billion Christians
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jesus is a feeling, not an indoctrination, OP
people embrace Jesus b/c they are tired of war and greed
Anonymous ID: xRgKnWefUnited Kingdom
6/18/2025, 6:12:50 PM No.507870570
a real case
a real case
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>>507851625 (OP)


Oh look its the god squad and their fucking fairytales vomiting all over the board again.

You know one fucking day you will come to the realisation Christianity was a jew psyop on the unwashed and pagan people we are, who valued nature over jew fairytales, then if you took it to its logical conclusion and even nowadays seen the the owners and clerics and bullshitters with power in Chrisianity you will only ever find jews at the top, even to this very fucking day!


>Now commence the screeching about jebus !


Marcus Eli Ravage 'Commissary to the gentiles'

Theres your religion from the mouth of a Rabbi.

https://ia800605.us.archive.org/5/items/MarcusEliRavage-CommissaryToTheGentiles/antiMarcusEliRavage-CommissaryToTheGentiles.pdf

Waste my time posting this over here because you all have religious cognitive dissonance and wont fucking listen.
Anonymous ID: SwB6L6CyNetherlands
6/18/2025, 6:15:00 PM No.507870799
>>507870280
>Judaism is not the bearer of Christianity, but its antithesis.
that doesnt seem to be what the average churchgoer is taught
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 6:16:20 PM No.507870961
>>507870280
>Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron
I agree
> It also amazes me how many people do not know this, either.
They aren't rightfully dividing, they need a way to combine the Old Testament with New Testament. For example Catholics teach to sprinkle babies with a little water for baptism because it coincides with Jewish tradition to circumcise the infants. It's all tradition worship and look at me I'm a rabbi. Follow the anabaptists, they knew the true meaning behind baptism, they taught that only a consenting adult who fully understood the Gospel of Salvation could get baptized.
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 6:18:27 PM No.507871184
>>507870799
That is because of the Catholics. Christians are persecuted and killed for their beliefs, mainstream christians have infiltrated and perverted the message.
Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 6:22:09 PM No.507871591
Trail of Blood CHART low
Trail of Blood CHART low
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anabaptists aren't perfect either, but they have been more inline with biblical teaching historically than other churches.
Anonymous ID: OUuGIACHUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:23:10 PM No.507871702
Protestants don't even read the old testament. Lmao
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Anonymous ID: 9c9EKkMH
6/18/2025, 6:24:01 PM No.507871768
>>507871702
No one should, unless they just want to.
Anonymous ID: CqifAc1DUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:25:00 PM No.507871877
>>507851625 (OP)
We're not Jews
Anonymous ID: R9IO2A4hUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:25:01 PM No.507871881
The Israelites were fighting an entire planet of simps, coomers, and kikes because of their bizarre belief in this thing called “Reality” and decided they’d stop living in squalor and reach for the stars
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Anonymous ID: RrjsReZpUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:25:05 PM No.507871886
>>507851625 (OP)
Well, I can see you haven't fucking read it like most Christians.
Anonymous ID: 6ceHZdKmCanada
6/18/2025, 6:26:25 PM No.507872022
>>507851625 (OP)
>Everyone reads a book from perspectives that are entirely selfish and self-centred, using themselves as the model to relate to it.

No, that's just niggers. We aren't joking, you kikes aren't human, you can't even comprehend not being a self-centred coon, and naturally, we simply aren't.
Anonymous ID: qlN0leRaUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:32:46 PM No.507872657
Evangelicals
Evangelicals
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>>507870799
i'm irish catholic and i never even heard anything like 'the chosen' stuff until I was 40 and that wasn't even at church
i do live near some jewish people and they do not mingle or assimilate in the town
they speak only when spoken to
judeo-christian appears to be a term made up by jews
i was always taught that the old testament was filled with revenge

pic related
the jews only just found out the evangelicals are not on their side either, but the jews are willing to work with it lol
see the last paragraph in picrel
these ~7M evangelicals study the book of revelation, which the remaining 2.3B christians laugh at
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Anonymous ID: qlN0leRaUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:33:54 PM No.507872766
Evangelicals
Evangelicals
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>>507872657
>these ~7M evangelicals study the book of revelation,
Anonymous ID: R9IO2A4hUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:35:40 PM No.507872948
>>507871881
Egypt: just stack stones all day bro it’s time well spent
Anonymous ID: NGRqxnikChile
6/18/2025, 6:36:56 PM No.507873076
Can we have a religion centered board already? Shills basically want to discuss theology 24/7 on here for some reason, especially when Israel is getting bombed, derailing most of the threads about it
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Anonymous ID: qlN0leRaUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:37:27 PM No.507873128
pike and jesus
pike and jesus
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>>507870961
>they need a way to combine the Old Testament with New Testament.
well it isn't working
Anonymous ID: VGrWdon0United States
6/18/2025, 6:38:49 PM No.507873293
>>507851625 (OP)
>When Christians read the Old Testament, they see the Jews as the whole of humanity
What jews? In the only Old Testament that matters, there are no jews. No non-cucked English translation ever uses the word "jew"... it talks about Isaelites and Hebrews and so forth.

It's possible, I suppose, that the modern jews are descendants of the Hebrews and Israelites, and lord knows the jews themselves claim this. But what is their evidence? When people start poking around about this stuff in the Middle Ages, the jews sure as fuck aren't in Israel or the Levant or anywhere near. They're busy opening city gates in Spain to invading muslims, or fucking off to whereever the fraud victims can't chase them. So where is the evidence that the OT is talking about jews at all? (Or the New Testament, come to that?)

It's not even clear where the jews came from. They just showed up grifting, gypsy-style. And fuck, the hilarious part is that we do finally know where the gypsies come from now days... but we'll never know for sure with the jews, because they have a grift that relies on us believing them to be the descendants of the Israelites of old. No one who might answer the question is beyond their coercion and bribes.
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Anonymous ID: pULVjwUgIceland
6/18/2025, 6:39:01 PM No.507873313
>>507867382
Fuck you, kike.
Anonymous ID: R9IO2A4hUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:40:24 PM No.507873474
>>507873076
Agreed, they’re deranged stone stackers
Anonymous ID: qlN0leRaUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:41:37 PM No.507873611
>>507873293
this was quite a post
Anonymous ID: Jljk8751United States
6/18/2025, 6:42:03 PM No.507873652
The Lies They Tell
The Lies They Tell
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>>507851625 (OP)
Except the kikes are correct and the OT is propaganda for the ethnic religion of Israel/Judah. Do Gentiles really think they were ever supposed to have it?
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Prince Evropa ID: 6AuX/k0SUnited States
6/18/2025, 6:52:10 PM No.507874777
Hiccup, Astrid, Ruffnut, love is war
Hiccup, Astrid, Ruffnut, love is war
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>>507851625 (OP)
https://youtu.be/_lcultjhSCA
Anonymous ID: m9+kvK3PMexico
6/18/2025, 7:01:39 PM No.507875754
>>507851625 (OP)
Not really

The problem is that christians don't read their own Bible, not even the old testament

Romans pretty much confirms that jews are still holier than thou and that gentiles were grafted in
Let alone that passage in which Jesus calls some woman a hungry dog that wants crumbles from her master's table
Anonymous ID: zpm/ZZc+Honduras
6/18/2025, 7:04:47 PM No.507876089
>>507866883
>the greatest intelligent king in the world
This never happened tho
Anonymous ID: 6ceHZdKmCanada
6/18/2025, 7:11:16 PM No.507876771
>>507873652
Gentiles are supposed to do noahide, which is like the main moralistic points without the permaschizo.

Gentile means what kikes pretend goy means, the nation's, while goy literally does mean human cattle, it's our responsibility to kill goyim and kikes primarily to protect gentiles from their horseshit. Our hands are bloody, it's our job to do that shit, not the clean.
Anonymous ID: Y0GFV/ZGUnited States
6/18/2025, 7:12:33 PM No.507876900
>>507851625 (OP)
>jews reading old testament
Ha, yeah fucking right
Anonymous ID: aBLOQgHrUnited States
6/18/2025, 7:15:38 PM No.507877252
>>507851625 (OP)
it is a Jewish book. The Prophecies in it foretell supremacy of the Jewish People.

Even the Levitical Priesthood is prophesied to last forever as well as the temple sacrifices.

Christians have to allegorize a lot.
Anonymous ID: TPaiiPH7Spain
6/18/2025, 7:19:25 PM No.507877640
>>507851625 (OP)
christians don't follow the old testament, only the new one, where actual jesus words are written. jesus christ invalidated the old testament.

you amerimutts have no idea what religion is. you just follow fake cults made by fake heretics with fake bibles.
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Anonymous ID: qlN0leRaUnited States
6/18/2025, 7:22:35 PM No.507877994
>>507877640
we all know op is not christian
Anonymous ID: O6fFUQyDCanada
6/18/2025, 7:24:37 PM No.507878226
>>507877640
>jesus christ invalidated the old testament.
thats not the right way to say it anon. He fulfilled it the Law because nobody else could actually follow it properly, which was the way to be right with God, but He didn't get rid of it all as a guide to morality etc. He taught the jews that it all pointed to Him and that there was no need for any more sacrifices in a temple.
Anonymous ID: 6t9ZkEFGUnited States
6/18/2025, 7:41:30 PM No.507880094
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>>507851625 (OP)
Jews never followed the torah. Jews are not israelites or Judeans. Everything about them is fake.
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Anonymous ID: yGfL6L61United States
6/18/2025, 7:51:57 PM No.507881222
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>>507880094
>this book that was introduced to my people by foreigners 1000 years ago is my people's actual origin story, those other guys are fucking fakers and are trying to steal our history >:(