Thread 507861418

Is God just Santa Claus for adults?

>>507861418 (OP)
Most likely

more like hes santa for retarded people with no critical thinking

sometimes I feel like this even though I consider myself to be Christian
i just cannot think of any other alternative worldview that is as valid

>>507861418 (OP)
Name one instance in any religion that mentions God as a man with a beard.

>>507861418 (OP)
Is this thread just bait for believers?

>>507861610
>>507861418 (OP)
>>507861523
>>507861552
t.

>>507861610
try noahidism

>>507861822
not an argument plus this guy is a giant degen

>>507861788
Always has been

>>507861610
Lies arent an alternative to the truth.

Two more millennia bro, trust the plan. Messiahs are in control.

>>507861418 (OP)
No, but atheism is just a power fantasy for redditors

>>507861785
jesus shaves!

>>507862276
you worship a kike lol

>>507862171
tf is the ""truth"" then?
and how would you even go about finding it?

>>507861418 (OP)
I figured this out at 5 years old. Come on, faggots...

>>507862456
the truth is, talking snakes are real bro

>>507861418 (OP)
santa claus is saturn. so unironically, yes

Saint Nicholas was real though

>>507861418 (OP)
Yeah you fucking nigger. I hope someone spanks your ass.

>>507861418 (OP)
Santa Claus makes more sense and is based in European folklore instead of Jewish folklore.

>>507861418 (OP)
no

1 John 2:15-17

if you want to know who God is click here to learn more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

God is santa clause for people who have souls

>>507861418 (OP)
there is no santa clause in Islam, there is just One God and his prophets, none of that jewish christian mumbo jumbo

No, children grow out of Santa, while adults are more likely to become believers the closer they get to the grave.

>>507861418 (OP)
Read "Plotinus against the Gnostics"
Read "The Formation of Hell: Death and Retribution in the Ancient and Early Christian Worlds"
Read about zimzum.
Buddha knew God.
Jesus was Judean and the term jew or modern day judaism originated in the middle ages.
E4, best by test.

>>507863217
So, read everything but the actual bible?

atheists believe in multiple material miracles of creation (yes literal miracles) while theists only need to believe in one miracle of creation


when you sit down and think about the atheist world view,it's equally based on faith as the theist's.

>>507863060
look man belief is stupid and irrelevant and makes no sense to "believe or not" in God

let me ask you something, do you believe in yourself? are you real? (now you will say you dont believe in yourself, that infact free will is an illusion and you dont really exist, you are just a by product of your brain seeking to survive)

you see why this is stupid? even if you dont "believe" actual human free will exist, that doesnt change anything

likewise you dont "believe" in God, you get to know about God is, you get to be curious, and to think about God

believe has nothing to do, in fact, that you are thinking about God is good even if your thoughts are "I dont believe this"

if you truly didnt care about God, you wouldnt be an atheist, you just would not care

but you do care dont you? you little hypocrite coward, you are afraid and you cope by saying to yourself "non of this is real I dont care", but in reality you are just afraid of what you preach, you fear a meaningless world, so you do temper tantrums in hopes that God is going to come out and give you the answers, and since that doesnt happen, you cope by saying (I dont care I cannot listen to God, God is not even real)

Ill summarize with this, you are pathetic, stupid, and you need to shut up

>>507863414
I provided you training wheels to understand what Jesus is about. Read the scripture afterwards.
>“The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14)

>>507863569
I guess it wouldn't be a /pol religion thread without a strawman atheist.

>>507864137
>the bible is the word of a perfect god, but you need all these other books to understand it.

>>507864171
If Christians didn't use fallacies, they would have no arguments.

>>507861418 (OP)
He's even worse.... He made fucking kikes feel all special and made our politicians all retarded. Fuck. So annoying. The world would be so much better without Abrahamoid bullshit

>>507864326
If you read the scripture in good faith, you won´t need them. It´s just a help to get out of the egg shell.

>>507864171
how is it a straw man?
initial state and abiogenesis is something atheist evolution proponents take on absolute faith happened.
not to mention chemical & stellar evolution
>>507864534
kill yourself kikejeet

>>507861418 (OP)
He's just a Jew fable white people decided to worship for some reason.
Sometimes I wonder how stupid goyim look to the jews for believing a god they have no ancestral roots to.
It's the same level as black Israelites.

>>507861822
More like
t. agnostic atheist

>>507862276
>atheism is just a
Disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods

>>507861418 (OP)
Yes

>>507861418 (OP)
No, Jesus was a real man and he wasn't born in winter like Catholics teach, where santa came and delivered baby Jesus gifts.

santa claus is not real you monkeys

>>507865265
Do atheist also cope by not believing in Trump?

>>507865050
>how is it a straw man?
Atheists don't have any prescribed beliefs, so saying what atheists do and don't believe is you creating a straw man. Also you don't even elaborate on these supposed miracles. Educate us with your high school-level understanding of cosmology.

>>507861418 (OP)
Is OP just a fag making a slide thread?

>>507863060
Because old boomers get afraid to croak and hope they can keep on booming for eternity. No other reason.

>>507861418 (OP)
no, it's different

>>507864891
>Listen and believe

>>507865050
Get off the internet, Kent.

>>507865507
Trump can be demonstrated to exist.

>>507865579
Yes, but religibois fall for it 99% of the time.
They actually resisted a bait thread yesterday; I was so proud.

>>507861418 (OP)
quite literally.

>>507861610
Taoism is perfectly valid and doesn't require any doctrine or dogma regarding 'it'.

Buddhism, when not viewed through a doctrinal, dogmatic lens is also very accurate, particularly chan/zen Buddhism.

Buddhism is a liberation theology, of sorts, concerned mainly with achieving awakening and liberation from suffering, while Taoism doesn't seek to escape, so much, as live in harmony with the Tao.

I can tell you now, 100%, that we are not the only beings in the universe, this is not the only planet. Any 'god' wouldn't send just 1 messenger 1 time to 1 group of people and not have that message be available to all beings in creation throughout all time.

Buddhism and Taoism allow for such things, Abrahamic kikery doesn't.

>>507865511
if atheists don't believe in any god, they necessarily will have to believe in a determinist materialist world view.

there's logical entailment to the atheist world view,and you can't wriggle your way out do it be repeating "I dindu believe in nuffin!"
which you'll do anyways because your world view is broken and incoherent.
>please spoon feed me!
typical atheist needing to be hand held by the science of theists.
initial state = before the big bang
abiogenesis = life arising from nonlife
chemical and stellar evolution = the formation of material properties and celestial phenomenon.

maybe look into this stuff before opening your big dumb mouth?

>>507865507
I voted for him lol

>>507861523
> is the the belief in the collective reasoning Santa Claus for adults that don't believe in it anymore
most likely

>>507865851
It´s not superstition, if you understand it.

>>507866576
>materialist world
There is no other

>>507866273
Buddhism and its derivatives are for gay passive faggots, and side steps fundamental questions like the origin universe
Ever wondered why globohomo is keen on promoting shit like this? It makes you docil

Picrel isn't some children's story to help kids learn about the bible like Veggietales or something, grown adults actually believe this factually happened.

>>507866576
>initial state = before the big bang
>abiogenesis = life arising from nonlife
>chemical and stellar evolution = the formation of material properties and celestial phenomenon.
None of this has to do with atheism

>>507866718
What are you trying gto say?

>>507866777
>side steps fundamental questions like the origin universe

I agree, kinda. It's not an important question to achieve awakening. Obviously there is a source of all creation, though. That becomes evident.

>>507861418 (OP)
Santa = Satan
OP perfectly demonstrates what his strategy is with 'Santa'. Create a false 'god', then demolish it, hoping to damage peoples faith in the true God in the process.

>>507861418 (OP)
Sort of. Because most kids figure out pretty early that Santa is just a fun tradition but he isn't real in the sense that he's actually there.

Most adults with sub 100 IQs will not only believe in God till the day they die. But they will use that belief in God to justify real world policy decisions like giving Billions to Israel.

>>507866754
>Its not superstition, if you don't look at it too closely.

>>507867136
>faith in the true God
Which one is that?

>>507861418 (OP)
no hes a malevolent astral parasite
not omnipotent but real

>>507866877
Life is just a word. What you call life is simply a chemical property of carbon under the right conditions.
>t. Chemical Engineer

Don't bother to (you) me I know more than you.

>>507862177
lmaooo its literally the same shit as qanon

>>507867378
>Life is just a word
Not for me :^)

>>507861418 (OP)
NOOOO
MY JEWISH THREE HORNED WIND SPIRIT IS ALL KNOWING AND BENEVOLENT EXCEPT WHEN HE ISN'T LIKE 99% OF THE TIME

>>507867143
It's incredible what it does to a man

>>507861418 (OP)
On the anglo internet: yes.
In a catholic town in hispano América: you will be lynched.

>>507866771
thanks for unwittingly providing my point against the atheist world view.
now can you elaborate how a material reality came into existence before itself? oh it just happened? sounds awfully familiar to what theists believe with their creator,it just happened!
>>507866877
your fellow anon seems to disagree
>atheist expect to be taken seriously when all they bring to the table is "uh nut uh I don't believe in anything at all! oh but what you believe in is wrong!"
BANANA

>>507867378
>don't bother to (you) me
>[sticks fingers in ears] LALALALALALA

>>507867767
We don't know how the present universe started, and neither do you.

>>507861418 (OP)

Right in the fuckin' oven is where you're goin'.

>>507867767
>now can you elaborate how a material reality came into existence before itself?
I never made that claim
>your fellow anon seems to disagree
Not my problem

>>507867306
I obviously said the opposite of what you claim. Stop wasting your pawns.

>>507867767
>uh nut uh I don't believe in anything at all! oh but what you believe in is wrong!"
Try less strawman next time. You sound like an emotional woman

>>507868016
Exactly this

>>507868143
>if you don’t know you have to accept my self-contradictory answer
Why

>>507862928
Everything good that people associate with christianity is European in origin and nature and was simply appropriated, literally no one goes around saying they love middle eastern or african abrahamics or whatever other nonsense like that.

>>507861418 (OP)
is reddit down? why are you fags posting your childish shit here?

>>507868058
>>507864891

>>507868306
>Why
I do t know when they're like this bro..probably ego

>>507861785
Wasn't he in a coke commerciala while back?

>>507868348
The worst thing is that it's not just the fish they believe is their ancestor, it's mr puddle

>>507862928
Holy fuck they both have long beards! And at least one eye!

>>507868348
>Everyone who criticizes my beliefs is a redditor/jew/fedoralord/bananaman/fag/etc

>>507861418 (OP)
No God is the guy who makes your life the total piece of shit that it is because you can't recognize a power greater than yourself

>>507868348
>>507868571
>believes their ancestors are dirt
Lol, lmao

>>507868716
It's the same mentality as a tranny

>>507868408
>in good faith
implies deeper understanding of the fundamentals

>>507868450
???
I guess you are just some namefag brown having a melty

>>507868717
>God is punishing you for not kissing his ass. But he loves you and is perfectly just.

>>507869079
You are?

>>507869050
>...which you must accept without critical analysis.

>>507862456
whatever you can accept as true
I know it sounds like saying "all tautologies are tautologies", but theology literally requies you to make something up
yeah people don't worship skyscrapers even though they've never existed on earth before, but a skyscraper does not explain the sum of reality
a god or gods is a representative of reality, made by people for other people
there is no Odinhall, no Styx, no Galactic Federation of Light, no Heaven that we can test or observe and must therefore make up everything we say about them. It MIGHT be helpful as a means to convince retards to do your bidding, and it IS very fun to tell stories, fill in gaps of explanation with imagination...but say it is made up, call it a fantasy and you'll probably treated as if you had interruped coitus.
I want the Abrahamic god to be real SO BAD but it conflicts with my subjective reality and really perturbs me to see people with lesser imaginations imagining a lesser version of an omnipotent god. I do not desire to be omnipotent or worshipped, but I would do a bang-up better job at creating a universe. I'd talk to anyone who asked and mute myself when my children wanted to be on their own (inside my macrocosm).
if my tiny pea brain can conceive of a loving god in a life of growth and failure, why can't god himself? I think the writers barely-disguised fetishes held back the true potential of the Bible anyways, but thats another problem.

>tl;dr its all made up, believe what you can test

>>507869396
You don´t have to accept without critical analysis.

>>507861418 (OP)
If your understanding is as shallow as that of a 5 yo child or an atheist, then of course it's not different from Santa Claus.

Have you noticed the recent trend among you atheists to mystify and deify LLMs, to trust them as oracles and guides? A few years before, the same men hoped for divine salvation from an AI singularity. So obsessed with their idea that no sane argument could reach them. A few years before that they hoped for salvation from little green men who descend from the heavens in magical space ships, punish the sinners and bring good government to the righteous. You atheists fall for every single one of those stupid, short-lived cults, while the followers of the thousand year old religions - the ones that you call gullible and infantile - can figure out what's going on at the first glance.

>>507870452
>Have you noticed the recent trend among you atheists to mystify and deify LLMs
No?