Thread 507877020

who is pol going to play first in eu5?

>>507877020 (OP)
Denmark

>>507877020 (OP)
I am going to play Bohemia and clean up that border gore in Germany, like holy fuck

>>507877100
i can respect that
will you be a colonial power or focus mainly in europe?

india

Portugal would be fun.

>>507877254
good nation to play when learning the new mechanics

>>507877020 (OP)
>kyiv

>>507877020 (OP)
Mamluks, release Israel and play as it, conquer the middle east.

>>507877020 (OP)
>Kyiv
The Ukrainian language wasnt even a fucking thing until the time of Catherine lmfao

>>507877020 (OP)
Jewish Ottoman

>>507877100
They haven't given us the flavour tease yet, but it already seems like they're going to fuck up the starting situation and make things like the Kalmar union impossible without heavy rail roading.
Also I have no clue why they do not give Stevns stone as an RGO

>>507877020 (OP)
I like playing my own country

>VAAR JE MEE MET DE VOC

>>507877020 (OP)
Unreal how Europeans managed to allow that tiny sliver of land to become an empire at their doorstep.

Did they turn finland area into uncolonized territory?

>>507877020 (OP)
I only play stellaris because it’s more realistic. I can create a race of jewish insect people who have enslaved a planet of stupid goyim and then go around genociding everyone while voting for abhorrent policies in the senate

>>507877020 (OP)
>vassals shown as independant state
bullshit map

>>507877020 (OP)
England first obviously. Then Cyprus when I understand the mechanics better, seems like a fun challenge run to restore the Holy Land.

Outside of Europe, maybe the Khmer or a Japanese clan.

>>507877020 (OP)
>flag
>Sweden
>Bohemia
Might play Byzantines and Ottomans.
Gonna play in Italy a lot and Ireland.
I want to try Korean and Japan as well.

>>507877234
good morning Sir make sure you pursue toilet tech early on
>>507877020 (OP)
Ireland

>>507877020 (OP)
Milan

>>507877020 (OP)
England they have most content, also the entire design of the game seems pretty much set up for island play.

>>507877930
They are vassals in the game.

>>507877604
>Jewish Ottoman

Player 2 enters

>>507877020 (OP)
>"kyiv"
tf is this woke crap

>>507877874
How will the colonization of Finland even work? I don't think there were ever a thousand Swedes or Russians in Lappland or Eastern Finland before late ass times.

Castille first, as always.

>>507877020 (OP)
why did they censor out Cumania?

>>507877020 (OP)
teutonic order

>>507877224
I'd probably focus on Europe and create the Kingdom of Denmark that should have been

>>507877020 (OP)
anatolian beyliks could be fun to play with especially karamanids. would go for a christian karamanids run

>>507877020 (OP)
lubeck

>start first game as Gurganj to restore the Illkhanate under the last Borjigin in Persia
>play for 25-50 years
>realize I don't have the patience/skill to save a historically doomed country, especially when you have to stop Timur to do it
>restart as France or England or one of the stronger German states

>>507878808
kek

>>507877020 (OP)
I will colonize Europe as Mali BBC.
Like in real life :)

>>507877020 (OP)
Belgium

>>507877020 (OP)
Novgorod master race.

Serbia, Venice, Byzantivm

>>507877020 (OP)
Also Look at that Hungary.
How do you fuck up so badly.

>>507877020 (OP)
Muscovy

>>507877020 (OP)
The one true empire, Denmark.

>>507877020 (OP)
>use exonym for Duchy of Moscow
>use retarded modern khokhol self-name for Duchy of Kiev
Nice one, swedekikes. Btw in Galician chronicles from that very same period it's proper name Lvov, too. Must be Lviv in the game of course.

>>507879727
>holding off the eastern hordes and the turkish invasions for centuries
>get backstabbed by westcucks and get partitioned between the germoids and the turks
>they intentionally settle our lands with slavs and gypsies to D&C
>five hundred years later they fuck up even worse and Vienna and Berlin and turkish anyway

Serves them right. The westcucks who got to colonize half the world without any threat to them and lost their empires anyway are even worse.

>>507880041
If you try to correct them you get banned instantly, their pissy forum users almost got a stroke when they decided to show off Russia.

>>507878201
>Siege of Tripolitsa
Based olive-peddlers, TKD

Bulgaria, obviously.

Ayo I finna play my nigga Tyrone

>>507877020 (OP)
hello is this the risk thread

>>507880226
You ARE the eastern hordes, Atilla.

>>507880041
Maybe the spelling fixes when you conquer it as Muscovy.
>>507877874
Nothing happened in Finland before Swedes you fucking mongol shut up and give back viking age swords

>>507880524
lel, true

>>507880524
YOU are the eastern hordes, Boris.

>>507877020 (OP)
They're going to make it ever gayer and suck more

>>507880226
Im sorry for what they did to Hungary anon.

>>507877020 (OP)
I always make a custom kingdom

>>507880227
>getting upset at strings that take 10 seconds to edit
Both sides are retarded. Reminder Paracucks made Heliogabalus a woman in CK3.

>>507877020 (OP)
wasnt the ghost of kiev sacked and fucked at that time ?

>>507880642
no, Boris is their tax collector

>>507880642
>we wuz protecting Europe an shiet

>>507880708
>Reminder Paracucks made Heliogabalus a woman in CK3.
lmao really?

Imagine future historians reading a 4chan shitpost calling someone a tranny and actually believing it.

>>507877521

Ruthenian, that is proto-Ukrainian and proto-Belarusian was the official language of Lithuania, you idiot.

>>507877020 (OP)
Kyiv ofc!

>>507877234
which one?
Vajinagar?

>>507877020 (OP)
Can't be assed with it. 1399 start date means the game will be over not long after 1499. You can continue playing as an overpowered juggernaut and waste your time I suppose.

>>507877020 (OP)
I'll go full MAGA.
Make austria great again.

Alles Erdreich ist Österreich untertan.

>>507877020 (OP)
Portugal

>>507877020 (OP)
the world map lacks SOVL

>>507877020 (OP)
Vijayanagar 1444 iron man mode like always.

>>507880708
the roman emperor? How is he in ck3?


>>507877020 (OP)
Duchy of Lithuania playthrough will be kino as fuck, the color is really nice too

>>507877020 (OP)
looks gay
i rather keep playing eu4

>Ottomans that small
Will you be able to annex them in one war as the Byzantines or will Paradox give them OP buffs?

>>507880708
I just think that if they claim to strive for accuracy, they shouldn't let use their game as a pedestal to show off how virtues and accepting of Cossacks they are.
>Paracucks made Heliogabalus a woman in CK3

>>507881159
>How is he in ck3?
title history if you reform the Roman Empire

>>507877020 (OP)
depends if they have the HRE mechanics or not, so austria or papal states I guess, or aragon into roman empire

>>507877020 (OP)
Milan or Bulgaria. Or my lil German shithole.

>>507880506
RISK THREAD!?

>>507881272
Surely you mean Imperator?

>>507881239
They are scripted to become a big blob.

>>507877020 (OP)
Angermanland

>>507881159
god speed anon I hope you win

>>507881482
Imperator had so much potential and they abandoned it like retards

>>507880802
Yes, unironically. We defended them for centuries from muslim invasion. In fact, we tried to defend them from one as recently as 2015, and they kvetched at us for being insensitive nazis for stopping the poor migrants, so they deserve their fate.

>>507880690
It does not really matter on the long run. History is never over, the credits never roll as long you are not extinct.

>>507881272
Its a swedish company with a primarily reddit audience now. What the fuck did you expect?

>>507881526
Reviewers confirmed this?

>>507877020 (OP)
Zero chance this isn't another dumpster fire, just like imperator. Nu-paradox has garbage devs making garbage games.
Even if by some miracle it isn't a laggy pile of shit, it's going to be dumbed down slop, because they target retards now, not sim enthusiasts.

Interesting how an Italian cartographer from 15th century knew about Rossia and where it's located...
But for nafo faggots it's too difficult, I guees.

>>507877020 (OP)
Aragon! Just like my British mytho-poetic proses.

>>507881703
CK3 is objectively better than CK2.

>>507881526
Gay. Hope there's enough time to no cb them first.

>>507877020 (OP)
i never played anything else but poland
not going to change now
although i dont know if im gonna even pirate it if they smuggled any degeneracy or commie propaganda in there

>>507877684
This. Just the best first country to start as in general
>safe HRE start
>not a lot of provinces to micro
>lots of relatively easy expansion possibilities
>learn the new trade system
>learn new colonization
>probably end up pretty powerful by the end

greek romans best romans

>>507881599
Not sure about the YTers but it was a dev release that AI Ottomans is scripted and player Ottos get free claims and CBs. I don't mind this as it's a good "end game boss" to go up against. I would prefer it if it was more organic though where Byzantines, Timurids or even another Anatolian Turk Tag could take on that role

>>507877521
true
>>507880855
pic rel
it was always polan city

>>507881890
lol

>>507881592
I honestly don't know at this point. And yet I continue to be disapointed

>>507877930
France was still very decentralized, it's the only way England (Better organized since even House of Wessex made it) even stood a chance in the 100 years war and the game reflects that.

>>507881592
Don't forget that Romanians stole your land

>>507881890
They're different games. One is supposed to be a sim, the other is sims, but medieval and with quirky slapstick shit like demon worshiping giving you magic powers

>>507880977
start date is 1337

>>507879727
>Be Portugal
>Richest country in Europe in the early modern era, center of trade and commerce
>Now the only Western European country with Latvia tier standards of living
Grim

>>507881272
Yeah, but it's borderline unreasonable to expect Swedes to snub shitlib cause du jour. Besides it's only a few strings. Compare it to games like Stalker where they went throught the trouble of stripping and replacing assets because Soviet symbolics in a game about Soviet Union made them butthurt.

>>507882214
and jeets are shitting on it

>>507882214
I did mention gypsies.

>>507882101
They have been permanently reddit since the release of Stellaris and HoI4, almost a decade by now. They've found their retard audience who will buy all the DLC packs and defend it do the death, while not being too demanding on the whole gameplay thing, as they only use it for roleplaying anyway.

I miss the time of pre 2015 when Paradox games were dadgaming engineers. The forums back than had some of the most high quality, educated and informate posters on the internet, depthlessly fucking good with mechanics and math and detail. I remember reading Prawnstar AARs and the absurd shit he pulled off before the whole LE ULM XD shit came into vogue.

>>507882493
That's a fair point I suppose. It would just be nice if I didn't have to mod the game right from the get go

>>507877020 (OP)
Wallachia (i use console commands cause i am a massive casual)

>>507882060
Pshek, please. You're the invader and land grabber.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3450310/Europa_Universalis_V/
>it's real
oh shit
>the graphics are barely an improvement over the old game
come on now
also a globe map mode with a cool atmosphere shader so you have sunshine and blue skies when playing the game would be rad
that or sitting down on a desk somewhere looking at the map with a nice view outside, playing the game gets a bit dingy sometimes

>>507881890
I last played CK3 and it was trash. Looks beautiful but it's the same game with 20 stripper features for every single new feature. I'm guessing they probably improved it since then but fuck it pissed me off. UI doesn't matter when you know how everything works.

>>507882086
I tried replaying ck2 these days and it was unbereable after 30 min. I don't know how I got 2000 hours on that

>>507881883
His name is Aragorn you dum dum

>>507882762
Me too. It's such a genuine shame that they all seem to be caught in huffing their own farts.
At least they haven't buckled to making the Inuits some sort of protected people already living on greenland at game start.

>>507882908
Don't worry bro, Wallachia is a tough start in EU4. I also always use console commands when I play it.

>>507882908
>>507883355
shamefur dispray

>>507877020 (OP)
>kyiv

I thought paracucks wouldn't go this route since they never changed Kiev to keef in hoi4

>>507883136
The UI in EUV so far looks pretty generic and not as pretty as you'd hope either. It doesn't have the same charm as the previous game.

>>507883699
It's a different team, and they were bullied relentlessly by "the community"

>>507883706
People said the same shit when EU4 came out

>>507881744
>The praiseworthy songs composed in the second half of the 14th century by the Austrian poet Peter Suchenwirt tell how in 1349, in the battle of Izborsk ("Eysenburk" in the poem), German knights faced "Weizzen Reuzzen" ("White Russians"). However, it is known that it was a squad of Pskov and Izborsk people, led by Georgy Viktorovich, voivode of the Grand Duke of Lithuania Algirdas.[3]

>According to Alfred Nicolas Rambaud:

>The name of White (Lithuanian: Balta) Russia is given to the provinces conquered from the 13th to the 14th century by the Grand Dukes of Lithuania. These were the ancient territories of the Krivitches, Polotchans, Dregovitches, Drevlians, Doulebes, now forming the governments of Vitepsk, Mohilef, and Minsk. The Lithuanian territories of Grodno, Novogrodek and Belostok were sometimes called Black Russia.[5]

>An ethno-religious theory suggests that the name used to describe the part of old Ruthenian lands within the Grand Duchy of Lithuania that had been populated mostly by Slavs who had been Christianized early, as opposed to Black Ruthenia, which was predominantly inhabited by pagan Balts.[6]

>On the 1712 map of French cartographer Henri Chatelain "Russie noire" (Black Ruthenia) is placed in region of Eastern Galicia (today Western Ukraine), which traditionally known as "Russie rouge" (Red Ruthenia).
also it was originaly called white rus/white ruthenia
russia was just latinization of ruś and described ruthenians
then mongol princes of muscowy created tsardom they called russia and larped they have rights to all those lands

>>507877020 (OP)
Corsica

Muscovy is fun in EU 4 so I want to try that

Golden Hores

>>507882912
is it nestor chronicle known for its constant blatant lies?
at least post english version dumbass

>>507877684
VOC were kikes domoor and the Oranges are still indebted to them.

>>507877020 (OP)
>autistic larp shit
This paracuck series of games is to blame for 90% of the retarded perspectives on this board.
You've lost touch with reality and it's all because of a bunch of greedy swedes. You did this to yourselves
Also >>>/v/ faggot

>>507877020 (OP)
Kingdom of England or maybe Nepals to try for a Shitaly run.

>>507883699
>keef
I have no idea why western shitlibs call it that, that's not even how you say it in Ukrainian. Kijow, Kiev, Kyiv, same shit with minor alterations to the pronunciation.

>>507882308
Ebin

>>507877020 (OP)
Tyrone

>>507877234
Has to be bait

Here's my tumor of a kingdom right now. How far out is EU5? I'm getting tired of medieval shit in multiple games now and I kinda just wanna play EU4 again.

the only answer

>>507877020 (OP)
Golden Horde

>>507877020 (OP)
Ottomans.
I need to study my enemy.

>>507884147
RELEASE DATE: COMING SOON

>>507877020 (OP)
I plan on playing England just to get my bearings with the new systems. Once I’m comfortable I want to move on to Byzantium, The Knights, Oda, and other memey nations

>>507884147
Is this good as EU4? Should I buy it? Or just buy the new dlcs of eu4?

>>507884000
>slovaks
>7-9th century

Buddy, the slovakian "patriotic" movements in the late 19th century were arguing amongst THEMSELVES if they really even exist. The whole concept of a slovak is never mentioned once before the early 19th century.

Feodosia and rape the Ottomans and those Vatican faggots

>>507884147
Ffs this is ck3

>>507884000
>Croats
>Serbs
>Bulgarians????? nowhere to be seen

tatar bros where the bugars?
oh nononono ...

OG Hungary had the most aesthetically pleasing borders. It's sad the Turkish gypsy rape babies out bred the natives.

>>507877020 (OP)
going to unify Italy to keep it the richest region in Europe like it was until the 1500s and then play giga jew putting every European nation against each other.

Honestly fuck the Commonwealth and Eastward expansion, reversing the unmitigated disaster that was the district breakup and going beyond the reclaimed territories to push back to the Elbe has always been the more appealing way to play Poland in this game for me.

>>507884306
>>507884390
Yeah it's CK3, easily confused especially without the UI.

>>507884046
Who knows, it's all just posturing and virtue-signaling anyway. Like how there are libtard bars who now refer to Moscow mules as "kyiv mules". Same energy as "freedom fries" and "liberty cabbage"

It's also just cringe to insist on endonyms when a language like English has a long-established exonym. I'd look like a tryhard faggot if I insisted on always saying Polska and Warszawa

>>507877020 (OP)
Byzantine Empire

>>507877020 (OP)
I like to play as Castile and fuck over the French. I also like to play as the English and fuck over the French. I occasionally play as Austria and make it a point to fuck over the Ottomans (and also the French).

>>507884527
They have turned ck series into a sims game at this point. We get pointless court decoration and lifestyle events insteas of some new game mechanics.

>>507877020 (OP)
The forces of Chaos (France)

>>507877020 (OP)
teutonic order as always

>>507877020 (OP)
> Kyiv
Yeah... right...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev
Not playing this pozzed, globohomo, newspeak slop for goyim. Will stick to Rome: Total War instead
Don't forget to buy your 100500 mandatory DLCs, goy :3

>>507884764
It's still kind of fun but I might go back to EU4 next, I haven't played it in many years and I always liked that time period more anyway.

>>507884505
That will unironically become the optimal strat for Poland in EU5 if the current mechanics remain unchanged.
You get an enormous coring malus for non native cultures. Moreso for cultures that don’t share the same language group. If you’re a Pole trying to core a majority German province it’ll take you something like 50 years, but if you’re trying to core a majority Polish province it’ll take a couple years max.

>>507877020 (OP)
Castile or some OPM

>>507884904
makes sense

>>507884648
>I like to play as Castile and fuck over the French
I've never done that in any of my playthroughs, at most I'd get lucky with the Burgundian inheritance. Otherwise I'd focus on continuing the reconquista into North Africa and Levant.
>>507883826
Yeah I do remember since I also played EU3, but it was my opinion that it was a little bit of an improvement in some respects. But now you look at all the various medieval-eseque RPG games like BG3 and shit and all of them have that same cluttered look to them.

ALSO, WHY CAN'T PARADOX MAKE A REALISTIC TERRAIN MAP FOR THE WORLD ALREADY AND THE CITIES??? I know they have a stylized look going for it but like fuck, it honestly gets so fucking boring to look at and looks like shit compared to other 3d renders. There's a reason why map mods are as popular as they are. Can't even have basic shit like weather or clouds in this game either.

>>507884900
What do you think of the new adventurer/estate play? Its sometines fun to play.

>>507877020 (OP)
Nobody unless they finally made a non-retarded tech system.

>>507877020 (OP)
I'm driving the Turks out of Anatolia as the best nation in both EU4 and what will be the best nation in EU5. The Byzantine Empire

>>507884648
Based knower about the French menace.

>>507877452

lol that was my thought too.

>>507884904
They need to revisit the coring mechanics, either that, or genocide needs to be a lot more efficient.

>>507880607
>Maybe the spelling fixes when you conquer it as Muscovy.
Conquering them must take the whole timed length of the game..... heh heh

>>507884904
>for non native cultures
I always found it somewhat odd that the penalty for coring neighboring Eastern Slavic lands would be as severe considering it realistically should be split up into another tier as far as subdivisions go, but in that sense it would be more prudent to go for the western lands. The biggest challenge however has always been the HRE cobelligerent shit because after the district breakup those lands were annexed into the HRE. Less of an issue I guess if you play Bohemia or Silesia though (can't do with any Pomerianian principality though since since I last place neither the Sorbs nor Kashubs were in the game though).
>If you’re a Pole trying to core a majority German province it’ll take you something like 50 years, but if you’re trying to core a majority Polish province it’ll take a couple years max.
If it's 1337 then the Germanization hasn't really gone too far past modern borders in some areas, depending on how Parafuck developers interprets the data or how high resolution it is because a lot of the Germans would move into specific areas and create weird mixtures. I hope they maybe add some focuses cause that's a cool alternate history scenario to go through. Already played through various Germany games so it's a way to spice it up.

>>507884999
Unironically the culture system for EU5 as it stands looks like the best iteration of culture in a PDX game they’ve ever done.

Culture has multiple levels. Language groups are the highest level and offer mild buffs to relations/coring speed. They effectively represent ethnicity. So as a Finn you share the same language group as Hungarians. But culture groups reflect the actual similarity of various cultures so you as a Finn will share the same culture group as Estonians and Saamis. It’s the best of both worlds.

>>507885334
The game takes place over a much longer timespan. There’s room for culture conversion over decades/centuries but I think the optimal strat for blobbing will remain cultural acceptance. as it was IRL for yuge empires like Russia.

>>507885334
There will be an expel minorities mod day 1.

>>507885664
Is EU5 better than EU4?

>>507877020 (OP)
Serbia because I live here and Castile since Castile was the first country I ever played in EU4

>>507877020 (OP)
Lithuania. I will restore pagan europe and boil the kikes alive.

>>507877020 (OP)
>Hungary almost whole
Fills my heart with joy

>>507884313
so what tribe slovaks originated from
>>507884432
7 slavic tribes formed bulgar ethnicity after they allied with bulgars against byzantines but yep

>>507885726
Its not out yet, but based on early version gameplay by youtubers, its better in every way except missions are to be ignored and it has poopoodogshit performance.

>>507885592
Pic related are the language groups so far. Looks like Germanisation hasn’t spread too far east beyond some tentacles Silesia and the Baltics.
Also bear in mind that each province will have a percentage breakdown of culture and a population. Going to war and losing men will literally drain your country’s population.
It’ll be interesting to see if you can cheese this mechanic to effectively genocide targetted ethnic groups by raising levvies in minority ethnic provinces and getting them stack wiped.

>>507885664
>Unironically the culture system for EU5 as it stands looks like the best iteration of culture in a PDX game they’ve ever done
I would agree, if they had more consistency with how they break up cultures. I think that them having around 6 finish cultures is massively overkill when they then don't extend that same level of granularity to other cultures.
Especially when the only major difference for a lot of them historically was religion.

>The game takes place over a much longer timespan
Yes, but currently the setup seems to just make it impossible to do things that happened historically without an event firing for it. At least there seems to be so many mechanics for making it unfun to conqueror that you might as well just play medieval econ simulator instead

>>507886018
>and it has poopoodogshit performance

Oof, that is dissappointing. I was expecting better performance since CK 3 runs so well, you can run campaigns for tens of hours without issues. I end EU4 campaigns usually early because of the performance.

>>507880851
I swear they were actually on the /vg/ thread looking for things to change. They changed the CoA of the obscure Vlach character I used for my first campaign because I was calling it a Super Swastika. People went through the titles history of Rome to see what rulers they made gay

>>507877020 (OP)
Poland, like always.

>>507886450
Performance is the last thing they optimize.

>>507885664
It won't happen. They fixed vic3 briefly so you could get rid of non accepted cultures, and they immediately fixed it, because it made ethno states mechanically viable, instead of a non stop series of revolts with no way to stop them except to embrace multiculturalism

>>507877020 (OP)
England or France of course. I'm torn because I agree with most of the controversial dev moves EXCEPT for the shitty fucking Crusader Kings potraits. Fuck plebbiters and their need for capeshit cartoon icons.

>>507877020 (OP)
Wallachia

>>507886373
True, that has me worried somewhat. We haven’t actually seen any gameplay past the late medieval era iirc though so either more mechanics open up as the game progresses for blobbing or the blobbing is entirely scripted which is gay and will ruin the game for me.

>>507877020 (OP)
'MERICA!

>>507886224
>those little nuggets of polabian slavs around old veleti/odobrite territories as far out as lubeck
>baltic prussians are a thing
>finwinbestonia
>celtic brittany (no normandy though so rip)
>all that detail around anatolia
>greek in albania
Holy shit, it took 10 years but it looks like it's pretty close to Voltaire's Nightmare in the level of detail. Looks like they did their homework for this one.
>beyond some tentacles Silesia and the Baltics
I wonder if there will be any benefits to trade like IRL if you keep some Germs around to do their thing German style.
>each province will have a percentage breakdown of culture and a population
Fucking finally, been wanting something along the lines of an ethnic map mode for years to make change felt. I wonder if they took inspiration from the pops mechanic in Meiou & Taxes.
>mechanic to effectively genocide targetted ethnic groups by raising levvies in minority ethnic provinces and getting them stack wiped
Not unless Paracuck decides that's not kosher or something.

>>507886018
> it has poopoodogshit performance.
I hate when it happens with rts games.

>>507886450
Ck3 doesn't have simulated population. Stellaris used to be incredibly performant, but that was back when planets had up to like 30 pops and there was a tile system where they only moved around based on your influence. Instead of calculating shit every 2 seconds.

Someone at paradox has a raging hard on for big population simulations that fuck the performance non stop.

>>507877684
Bantam moet zich onderwerpen

Aan de blanke gouverneur

>>507886450
Millenium dawn mod in HOI 4 is unplayable now after few ingame years. It used to be so good prior to 2020.

>>507886224
>>507886774
Here are the cultures that they're currently working with

>>507886930
I stopped playing stellaris because of them bombarding dlcs. Used to be fun though.

>>507877470
How would you convert to judaism tho?

>>507877020 (OP)
I will stick to playing vic2, paradox can go fuck itself for releasing unfinished games. Won't touch eu5 for at least 2 years and a couple of dlcs.

>>507877020 (OP)
I WILL SAVE THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE !
As always.
Tell me you are an EU player but never done it !

>>507887262
Ck3 was pretty good from the get go. It is getting ruined with sims like dlc.

>>507877020 (OP)
>1337
>Galicia-Volhynia
Jesus fucking Christ, what retard actually made this map?
The name "Galicia" was literally invented in 18th century by Austrian Germans. In 13th century Ukraine was that place on map where literally dragons were.

>>507886630
I’ve no doubt expel minorities will still be a thing for colonial empires. Especially since slaves are a trade good in EU5, just like EU4. The thing about blobbing is that IRL and ingame if you want to blob out you’re going to have a multiethnic empire. Either you accept those cultures or you expend capital keeping your unaccented pops inline.

If you want to be an ethnostate you aren’t blobbing irl or ingame imo.

>>507880226
The germs supported Istvan to christianize us with force. They killed tens of thousands of our best before the remaining christianised to saved their lives. It is all downhill from there. With jews you loose and christcucktainity is jewish. Simple as.

>>507886724
They have claimed that blobbing is supposed to be hard and disincentivised. Yet they have situations like the rise of the ottomans that makes it extremely easy for a specific historical culture to blob.
They have plenty of time to change this of course, but I have a feeling they wont.

>>507884004
Kikes weren't even allowed on the VOC board for the first 150 years, fuckwit

>>507886224
Is this the current up to date map? I'm seeing posts for it 7 months ago as opposed to over a year ago for this one, so I'm assuming it is the updated version as it looks more detailed than pic related.
>>507887180
Oh I see, fascinating.

>>507877020 (OP)
Munster -> Ireland -> GB of course

Video games are for children.

>>507882762
Hungary is nice :D, keep doing what ur doing bro.

>>507887731
Those are two different maps. The first map is cultures, the second map is language groups.
Each culture is part of a language group.

>>507877020 (OP)
Brandenburg and make a Großgermaniums.

>>507887423
That's something that always really fucking confused me with Paradox maps, nowhere in our text books for history or maps do I recall seeing that name. It was always Ks. Halickie or Księstwo Halicko-Włodzimierskie instead or Red Ruthenia.

>>507887759
Europa Universalis always felt more like a tabletop game to me like the ones I used to play.

>>507887180
>polesian
those pacific islanders?
how the fuck did they get there

>>507886224
>Ugric and Finnic together but most Indo-European branches separated
I wish they’d stop doing it, that’s like idk shoving Greek and Iranian together
>Armenian, Greek, Iranic, Kartvelian, and both Caucasian families in the same language family
what in the actual fuck
anyway I looked at some of their North America maps and noticed they turned Utah’s big salt desert into four agricultural provinces while making most of the actual fertile lands wasteland – and then filled the barren hinterlands of Nevada with more provinces than in California. I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with this company, it’s like they refuse to even look at a map or do research, they fuck up everything outside of Sweden so completely. It’s probably on purpose, so they can sell dlc fixing it.

>>507887423
Some Spanish tard if I were to guess. They have since updated it

>>507887995
look how close you are but just keep dodging the point like neo
>The name of the region derives from the medieval city of Halych,[7][8][9] and was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[10][11] The eastern part of the region was controlled by the medieval Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia before it was annexed by the Kingdom of Poland in 1352 and became part of the Ruthenian Voivodeship.

>>507888120
I think they just looked at the Polesie region and went "yep that'll do".

>>507888120
They sailed up the rivers, duh.

>>507880947
Vagenagar*

>>507888244
>Armenian, Greek, Iranic, Kartvelian, and both Caucasian families in the same language family
No they just weren't done when the map was made

>>507877020 (OP)
Venice is going to be so FUCKING STRONG its unreal. With all that money from trading, they will be able to hire so many mercs and never have to levy peasants for your military.
Same with England.

Can we build vertically now or is it still a braindead blobbing sim with equally braindead combat?

>>507887541
Please keep your larpagan shit to yourself. Christ is king.

>>507887423
>The name "Galicia" was literally invented in 18th century by Austrian Germans.
It's just a latinized name for Halicz. Same as Moscovia/Muscovy for Moscow Tsardom.

>>507887262
Plus it will be free on Epic Store

>>507884147
Have you considered Imperator?>>507886774
>I wonder if they took inspiration from the pops mechanic in Meiou & Taxes.
Probably from their own game, Imperator.

Play Imperator, dammit. Install Invictus, the game is good.

>>507889572
I know, still - it wasn't called like this in 13th century (Halychia is probably modern invention too) - nobody called it Galicia until Austrians invented that name. And why latinisation would replace "H" with "G" is beyond me. In Poland (and Poland is a part of latin civilisation world, so we should know) we spell "Galicia" with hard "G" (Galicja)- but Halicz (or Ruś Halicka) we spell with "H".

>>507887731
They posted maps like a month ago that showed a province named after Kim-Il-Sung and some Soviet stuff. They’re continually being updated

>>507889940
I didn't hate imperator, but it has the same problem Nu-paradox always has. Dealing with multiculturalism wasn't a thing in the ancient world.
If the local populace acted up, their women found themselves raped, and the male lines in the area culled. There was no unstoppable rebellion bullshit from peasants, only petty regional governors/nobility thinking they can rise above their station. Ethnic nobility never survived conquest.

>>507878494
You are so based for this and same. But the cool thing about Denmark is that you can do both if you want or focus on the new world.

>>507891250
Completely fucking wrong. Multiculturalism was the absolute norm up until very recent times. The concept of a nation-state is very recent.

>>507891250
Bro I set jews to Slave status every run. Just do that with everyone if you hate them.
But also, >>507891935 is kind of right, though not really. I don't think that multiculturalism was a thing in the way that we think of it, either.

Regardless, you can enslave and ethnically convert pops if you like. I do it in most of my runs.

>>507890940
hungarians called it galicia in 1206 dumbass
>The name of the region derives from the medieval city of Halych,[7][8][9] and was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[10][11] The eastern part of the region was controlled by the medieval Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia before it was annexed by the Kingdom of Poland in 1352 and became part of the Ruthenian Voivodeship.
galicia is just a replacement word for halicz in some languages

>>507877020 (OP)
I always play as Saxony and act like a Rothschild after Poland annihilates Bohemia, so probably Saxony.

>>507884000
>albanians
>before the 10th century
bruh

>>507884505
Poland is everybody's bitch, and so shall you remain until Russia is dont w Kiev, at which point you will likely cease to exist. Your welcum

>>507890940
>it wasn't called like this in 13th century
Yeah, but using local endonyms for everything would make the game unplayable. They're sticking to commonly used historigraphical terms (with the obvious exception of Quiyiff). Non-English localizations will use their own terms obviously.

>>507892912
shut the fuck up, mutt

>>507877020 (OP)
Release date?

>>507892477
>galicia is just a replacement word for halicz in some languages

Which (the replacement I mean) was invented in 18th century by Austrians, you fucking retard.

>>507893074
Wash my toilet Pavel

>>507893096
No ETA for now

>>507893246
mindless creature
>and was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[10][11]
and was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[10][11]
>and was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[10][11]
and was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[10][11]
>and was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[10][11]

My home city of Legnica ;)

>>507892883
>The Albanoi (also Albani; Ancient Greek: Ἀλβανοί, Albanoi; Latin: Albani) were an Illyrian tribe. They were possibly first mentioned by Hecataeus of Miletus (550-476 BCE) under the name Abroi. Ptolemy (100–170 CE) is the first author who mentions them under the name Albanoi.

>>507892160
Normies have trouble comprehending a society so vastly different from their comfy little 21st century suburban shithole.

A high medieval age peasant, depending on the geographical location, could reasonably expected to speak 2-3 languages and possibly even more regional dialects, as there were no big melting pot cultures caused by easy mass communication and travel. The guys two valleys away might have spoken a completely different language. Your lord might have spoken a different language. The itinerant merchant, your only source for some tools might have spoken different one. Merchants themselves could have been reasonably expected to speak 4-7 languages, depending on their coverage, especially if they traded by sea. A simple route for a Hansa merchant might have took him over a half dozen languages and several language groups without even leaving the Baltic sea. If you wanted to do anything scholarly , you needed to be fluent in Latin and Classical Greek. The Court might have spoken an entirely different language than the vernacular. Later, French became the language of diplomacy. People often put effort into learning the languages of neighboring hostile countries, as some knowledge of norse or arabic or turkish might have turned an event from a raid into a trading mission.

Its hard to understimate how important the spoken word and just talking were back then. If a stranger wandered into a village, he could have reasonably expected a warm bowl of food and a place to sleep in return of the stories he told because random people wandering around was the internet of the time and the ONLY way to get news. You HAD to speak and communicate constantly, especially in societies where literacy was not as common. There were no mass media to be informed from, no newspapers, no posters, no fliers, nothing. The only way you learned anything, if another human told it to you.

>>507893302
classic

>>507893302
1. Polish-Americans earn more than German-Americans and have higher wealth
2. Treating a Polish flag as some imaginary immigrant is retarded and why everyone deservedly treats you as a retarded mutt

>>507894294
its russian troll on vpn

>>507877020 (OP)
Portugal of course, I hope they got rid of that ridiculous "historical friends" thing with Castille.

>>507894294
I was born in Chicago and most citizens of the United States I have spoken to argue by default in faith of the magic dirt theory, that I am an American and not a Pole, but at the same time an immigrant. Sometimes it feels like offers a slight advantage in some situations where you'd otherwise be discriminated for being white.

>>507877020 (OP)
Venice is usually.my go-to. It gets Cold War tense with the Ottomans breathing down your neck the whole time.
>>507877254
Portugal was a fun playthrough, hope they dont screw up the colonization game

frisian freedom the peasant republic just for memes

(just a little joke i dont play paradox games anymore since im not a cuckold)

I don't know if I'm going to play it, I find I hate learning how to play new games as I get older. The game is also addicting as all hell, I have wasted over 5000 hours staring and painting maps. Teutonic order maybe?

I'm going to play the protagonist of the game.

>>507877020 (OP)
Muscovy, and see how difficult they made it to be able to form Russia

>>507877020 (OP)
Ottoman, of course

>>507877020 (OP)
Probably Munster it’s a good way to learn the game, once I learn I’ll go to Florence, maybe check out what they have for the Aztec or an eastern country then too