Thread 507896121

I bet little Ted went home and cried that day.
Using the scriptures to justify support for another country is kinda crazy ngl.

>>507896121 (OP)
In God We Trust

>where does it say that in the bible
>i dont know

>>507896502
>What is the population of the country you want to invade?
>I don't know
Every boomer who keeps voting for this retarded kike shill should get executed.

>>507896121 (OP)
it would be nice to see this "isreal" line properly discussed
my understanding is it is something that is very recent, only pushed onto christians in the last 60-80 years
iirc, christians have fought wars against jews and islams over the "holy land"

>>507897191
The Israel people the bible speaks of are long gone, the Israel created 70 years ago and flooded with khazarians is obviously not the same thing.

>>507897638
I agree, but the puppets controlling the government and the pulpits are preaching that they are one and the same. Disagreement is heresy and why the boomer, who still goes to church and watches actual tv, fully supports isreal....they are close to dying and want to be blessed before they go.

>>507896121 (OP)
>the book of genesis told me to send a gorillion dollars to benjamin netanyahu
lmao

>>507897638
Even if it was the same thing, you can't use religion to justify political actions.
That's what Muslims do, don't you burgers consider them primal for that reason?

>>507896121 (OP)
the biggest moment for me was when he said that when God talked about "Israel" in the Bible he meant specifically the modern nation state of Israel
is he really that retarded?

>>507897191
>>507896502
>>507897638
>>507898086

https://www.youtube.com/live/cn5HO7njRlY?feature=shared

>>507896121 (OP)
Christian fundamentalism just as dangerous as Islamic.

>>507896121 (OP)
He's right. Western Christcucks are nothing but hangers on and groupies for a Jewish yarn.

>>507898653
This meme makes zero sense.
You can't even build a strawman you dumb migger.

>>507898366
The only people buying their horse shit right now are evangelicals who believe the same thing which is why they are pandering to them. It of course does make them look retarded to anyone who doesn't buy into that shit. We have massive mega church's for retards funded by israeli money to cultivate these people. Apparently thats all they have to lean back on right now and they are going with it.

>>507896502
It doesn't even say it. It's God talking literally to Abraham. Israel isn't mentioned at all. God is making a covenant with Abraham.
Americans believe that because Gods promises were to Abraham and his descendants that it also applies to modern israel.
However the bible clearly states that this covenant ended with the death of Jesus whereby a new covenant or a new testament has overridden the old.

Ted Cruz unironically believes he should 100% serve whichever country names itself "Israel". This is one of the most influential politicians in the US, imagine that.

>>507898521
no, he is being fed this by his AIPAC handler

>>507896121 (OP)
Beyond reality

>>507898856
It make perfect sense. You're just dumb.

>>507896121 (OP)
Tucker's stupid "I'm just asking questions" strategy absolutely shredded Cruz. It's hilarious, because it's so passive aggressive, and indirect, but Cruz was just completely unprepared, for any challenge at all.

>>507897191
I will give you a very easy explanation that you can use to dismantle any pro kike Christian argument. When they quote the Old Testament (they always do) know that they have no idea what they're talking about because it is the OLD testament, as in not in use anymore, not relevant, useful for historical context etc. The New Testament is Christ's message and what all true Christians should follow. How the kikes managed to brainwash Baptists in bumfuck nowhere South USA to worship them, I have no idea. But anyone who actually reads the Bible understands that the Old Testament does not represent what we believe

>>507898521
Yeah but that is actually the main core of entire interview. Tucker handled it and asked the question well but it *needs to be pushed further* and not just on Cruz, all of these ziopoliticians.

What Tucker *OUGHT* to have asked/phrased:
>"Where in the United States Constitution does it say anything or is mentioned the state of Israel?"

the modern state of Israel not only has nothing whatsoever to do with the Old Testament it has *LESS THAN NOTHING* to do with America's Constitution or our republic and government.

>>507896121 (OP)
Oh this is hilarious lmfao

>>507899256
Teddy only does softball interviews, he didn't realize after Fox Tucker is a completely different person.

>>507896121 (OP)
The American political class really are a subservient bunch of brainwashed lunatics. The people of Jacob scattered, the people of modern day Israel are Canaanites, anyway, genetic tests prove this. But regardless, Americans are pussies and cucks for allowing this warmongering and bending over to Jewish interests. This will result in more Americans dead, broken and beaten and Jewish power increasingly unchallenged.

Mutts, the world is watching, you bunch of shabbos goy retards. Put down your Big Mac and focus up. All your big boy LARPing about 'muh guns' could be put to use against those that wish to destroy you, internally, instead of against the people threatening those (by proximity) that ARE destroying you, from the inside out.

>>507896121 (OP)
Cruz and every other zionist like him needs to be charged with treason by the militia after we overthrow the government.

>>507898936
I know anon. Not only a huge majority of 535 Congressmembers think/believe that, but also (for example) the largest popular support base for the state of Israel in the world: ~50 million American fundamentalist evangelical Christians

>>507896121 (OP)
>For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

>Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

>The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: for if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

>And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

>But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

>Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

That's the real Bible. Get in the New Testament where you belong Ted.

>>507896121 (OP)
It only says that in American Protestant bibles. The line doesn’t even say Israel in other bibles. I believe it says those who bless Joshua, not even the Israelites, because being in genesis it was older than the Israelites. I’ve heard this line ham fisted so many times in American discussion, it’s wildly out of context, and the question of supporting the Israelites being the same as the modern government of Israel is an incredibly valid question, people get flustered when you press it. American Christians are just dumb retards who don’t even bother to learn their own religion

>>507899685
Isn't protestantism all about the new testament and how Jesus expanded the covenant to all who want to be a christian? Are they just retarded?

>>507896121 (OP)
At least half of amerimutts would enthusiastically agree with this retarded golem
Very embarrassing country
If you're that far into the delusion why not just rename the United States as Israel, become messianic jews and then get the benefits of believing in Jesus while simultaneously being Israel yourself lol

>>507900170
All of your prime ministers literally work for banker kikes.

>>507896121 (OP)
There’s no scriptural basis for supporting Israel. Every time Israel turned to foreign nations for help, God abandoned them. The whole point of them being “God’s people” was that God was supposed to be their ruler and protector…so if the United States tries to pretend that’s their job, they become “the disgusting thing causing desolation standing in a holy place” in the greater fulfilment of the prophecy at Matthew 24.

>>507900258
>waaaah you're countries worse!!! How dare you slander muttmerica!!

God you fucking retards are pathetic and predictable

>>507899306
>brainwash Baptists in bumfuck nowhere South USA to worship them, I have no idea
Back in the 1960s and earlier most Americans—religious or not—didn't even know a country named 'Israel' actually existed. If you said that word to people back then, yeah some of the more religious/bible ones might've recognized it from scripture but beyond that: Blank stare.
Starting in the late 1970s there was the right wing Christian revival movement which went beyond merely the Protestant denominations but also into Catholicism, they snuck in—at various degrees and magnitude—elements of the 'holy zion' Scofield Bible from half a century earlier.
Now *all* of these conservative American evangelical and fundamentalist Christians "believe" that the modern state of Israel actually translates into and is directly connected to the modern post-1948 nation-state of Israel (some of the real whackjob subsects, such as the Christian Zionists, believe it directly connects to the book of Revelation, all the Jews are going to die etc.)

The other thing from 1980s onward that gained precedence was the Oded Yinon plan and wars for Greater Israel using the United States military. By the 1990s and Gulf War I it was pretty much ground into these American fundamentalist Christian skulls that "yeah we gotta fight in duh Middle East, for Israel y'know". And after 9/11 it's been total brainwashing, a lot of anons don't remember or didn't experience the environment in the United States from September 2001 to around 2005 (when serious doubts about what was happening in Iraq were no longer able to be ignored).

It's all for Israel, in their minds. Holy Zion, the blessed holy land muh Israel. And they go to church every Sunday with this, praying for the state of Israel.

Do you think he ate more tonsil stones?

>>507896121 (OP)
is he christian or jewish? He should make his mind up

>>507900051
Yes they are, American churches are a total fucking grift. It’s a rock concert with donations for trips to Africa. It’s why atheism is so popular in America. Because there is absolutely zero depth the the majority of churches, I’ve been to many in my spiritual journey, and every Protestant church in America is a South Park tier “I love you Jesus” rock band, then a “pastor” comes out for a bout ten minutes, tells a personal story, and then it’s just projected images of African children so you can sign up for a “mission trip”, which is a whole other load of dog shit. I really want to understand some better Protestant theology but everything in America is either crazy (like seventh day adventists and evangelicals) or just milquetoast nothing like Methodist and Baptists. This country is spiritually drained and the mega churches are unironically only shilling for Israel because there’s groups that pay them to do so. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen churches flying the Israeli flag, way before any of the shit pops off. It’s disgusting and stupid. I’ve been careful to read catholic and orthodox sources for theological purposes because anything in America is really not far off from the Righteous Gemstones. I went to a nondenominational for a while and they were generally pretty good, but even then I never felt the depth of understanding the message in the Bible that I was looking for and found elsewhere

>>507896121 (OP)
Israel was a person not a place.
The modern European colony of Israel is a fabrication, a cheap nonsensical imitation of an ancient Semitic tribe which no longer exists.
It's like someone claiming to be from Atlantis and that they're the "true Atlantisians" and laying claim to every ocean on the planet.
Absolutely bizarre.

>>507900258
>All of your prime ministers literally work for banker kikes.
You're literally the supreme golem for Jews. Stop deflecting like a BPD woman that can't take accountability. Just take the L and stfu.

>>507900051
>Sweden flag
Anon, I have noticed on /pol/ for many years that the religion discussions tend to be very detailed and adherent to how Christianity and its denominations evolved and developed. Maybe ? in Europe it's still clearly delineated but that's not the case here especially after the 1980s. (and, the U.S. has always had its unique brands of Christian sects/denominations)
What you must comprehend is that this 1980s-and-later brand of *American fundamentalist Christianity* (whether Protestant or Catholic) simply has been brainwashed to unite around the *modern state of Israel*
we have more than 50 million populace like this.
It is the *Main Base Of Support* for the state of Israel globally. (Not 'the Jews' it's the fundamentalist/evangelical Christians <--*THEY* are the main army of support for the state of Israel)
None of it has to do with any recognition of protestantism, the liturgical and denominational differences any more, here in the United States.
They've all been brainwashed with this Scofield Bible 'holy zion' slop.

>>507900829
>here is absolutely zero depth the the majority of churches
This anon nails it.
see also my posts itt

>>507899565
Tucker says all the time that Fox legitimately censored him

>>507900856
This.

I don't know why this topic (me and couple other anons^^^^) isn't discussed more widely on /pol/.
These people *are* the majority ~50 million populace army of support for the modern state of Israel. This is the base of support (not 'jews') for the state of Israel, Bibi, the wars, all of it.

>>507901505
From what I understand Americans like that love Netanyahu a lot more than actual Israelis do, and his government has been on the brink of collapse for years, and only getting worse

>>507900579
Thank you for that valuable information anon. Is there a book or research paper you'd recommend that covers this in more detail?

>And they go to church every Sunday with this, praying for the state of Israel.
I had no idea this existed until I visited my wife's grandparents down in Texas. (For reference this was around the time Israel starting glassing Gaza) They invited us to come to their Baptist service with them and to my ultimate surprise the preacher said nothing about Christ and the New Testament, but instead he made a completely inaccurate connection between the Palestinians and a descendent of Cain and then got everyone to "Amen" the idea of "God's chosen people" wiping out Palestine. It was utterly baffling

>>507901505
>I don't know why this topic (me and couple other anons^^^^) isn't discussed more widely on /pol/.
It genuinely needs to be, and fast, so it can spill over everywhere else.

>>507902163
Most Americans are going to church passively, they believe just physically being in the building is all they need, they don’t read the Bible, they may have a few out of context bits recognized from a sermon, but they genuinely don’t actually give a shit, yet they are very violently in support of it. It’s really not a meme or a joke, most Americans are viciously Christian while knowing almost nothing about their own faith beyond a couple Sunday school stories. It’s very easy to manipulate these people because they’re at church for the social benefits and not for any real spiritual means, their “praise” is the good feelings they get during the free rock concert, and that’s the entirety of their religion, just saying they love Jesus. But they don’t know him, they very clearly don’t

>>507902696
You're not wrong. It's an evil world we live in. Governments and churches use marriage to enslave men.

Protect yourself, kings.

>>507901505
>I don't know why this topic (me and couple other anons^^^^) isn't discussed more widely on /pol/.
Because most of the Israel shills here don't even pretend to be christian

>>507902163
I’ve mentioned in other threads my experience with a highly educated, extremely religious lawyer who worked for the military. He was deployed in Iraq, and was genuinely confused why they had mosques named after characters from the Bible, and tells the story as if it’s common knowledge that Islam worshipped a serious of Hindu gods or something. the extent to which Americans are unaware of their own faith is extremely concerning

>>507896121 (OP)
Isn't Ted from a Cuban family? Do Cubans also worship kikes?

>>507902696
protestants are like muslims

>>507896121 (OP)
Ted knows Jack shit about Christianity...

>>507903305
Yes, that's a prerequisite

>>507896121 (OP)
It also says in the scriptures that the church is Israel and always has been Israel. Not some secular nation state.

>>507896502
>It came to me in a dream

>>507903969
All of a sudden, Tucker brings up Revelations 3:9

>>507903969
I mean the New Testament flat out says the Christians are the real Israel and the people of God, his chosen people, etc, and that Jews have been broken off as a branch and have the "wrath of God" upon them.

It's like these dumbass senators just want any excuse instead of admitting they are bought by the Israel lobby.

The state of Israel has existed for a little over 70 years. The last time it lasted this long without following there own divine law it got itself exiled to Babylon. Whats there to bless exactly?

>>507896502
Most christians respond with this

>>507904754
>scofield syndrome

Im suprised the zodiac killer reads scripture

>>507896121 (OP)
how convenient, jew book saying be good to jews or else. surely nobody is gullable enough to beleive that...

Can this moronic beaner turd just die already.

>>507896502
average christcuck golem, btw

>>507898926
Except the part where God says his pact with the Jews is eternal and Christians made up a bunch of shit to make themselves the heroes of the Jewish story.

>>507899306
>old testament is irrelevant
do you follow the Ten Commandments?

>>507902696
>Americans are going to church passively
>viciously Christian while knowing almost nothing about their own faith
This.

>>507903149
>the extent to which Americans are unaware of their own faith is extremely concerning
and this.

>>507905580
Lmao you faggots killed the messiah, nobody is making heroes. The only worthy man is Jesus Christ, are you implying christians gloat about being a hero and above everyone like you do with your chosenite bullshit? You fucking people are so unbearable is unreal

>>507905580
It is the only CONDITIONAL covenant God made with the Jewish nation (Ex. 19—24). God said, “if,” stating a condition Israel had to meet in order to receive blessing (19:5). That is, Israel had to keep the Law.

Meanwhile, Christ saves if you believe in Him and do His will. He is for both jew and greek, for everyone. The church is Israel.

>>507905580
Remember, God destroyed the Jewish temple and cursed the Jews for no longer having a homeland to call their own. The price for killing Jesus.

>>507896121 (OP)

Dispensationalism is a Jewish PsyOp from 1703

https://youtu.be/Scz5t_D-ung?si=dE9QJchpnrshxtcY

>>507905580
Kys and die in hellfire you filthy lying kike.

>>507896121 (OP)
classic kike worshiping nigger

>>507907016
>pretends to be christian
>doesn't read his book of jewish folklore