Thread 507933877

What if North Korea isn't actually a dictatorship and the media is just lying to us?

>>507933877 (OP)
It's definitely a dictatorship, but a lot of the refugees get taught out of the holohoax survivor playbook a la Elie Wiesel. Once you watch enough videos with them you can tell what's true and what they've been told to say that may or may not be true, but if it is, probably didn't happen to them.

But it's still interesting because there's always some true things in there and it's pretty easy to tell the difference vs the talking points they are given.

>>507933877 (OP)
Trust in your institutions goy

He's based and we should make him into an ally. I've envisioned a sort of Cheers-spinoff where I move there into the gianty pyramid skyscraper and open a bar there but it's mostly frequented by various intelligence agents. But the whole shot takes place in the bar.

>>507933877 (OP)
oh they wouldn't lie to you
kim bad, "democracy" is wherever the kikes rule

North Korea is absolutely a dictatorship by their own internally generated state media content. The only good news for North Korea is that they developed nuclear weapons. If North Korea did not develop nuclear weapons they would be getting the Iran treatment right now if not sooner

>>507934620
yessss because we can't go outside without terrible terrible guards watching our every move
I'll cook tacos, and be a cultural ambassador for mexico
north korea needs DIVERSITY (under very strict control)

>>507933877 (OP)
what if goguryeo literally some part of the kingdom of man the black nobility

>>507934488
A lot of what I see about North Korea in the media tends to be later quietly debunked, or from a shitty propaganda source (RFA for example), or a mistranslation.
Like when you see "[insert person here] has been executed in North Korea" a lot of the time it ends up being wrong and whoever was supposedly executed ends up being alive and well. Usually by this time the damage is already done and any corrections or retractions are just made quietly.
I also don't believe in the whole "every normal(ish) looking picture or video of North Korea is staged and they're all just actors or being held at gunpoint" narrative. I think they're mostly just living their normal lives. North Korea's a poor country but I don't know how authoritarian their government actually is considering the unreliability of a lot of sources reporting on North Korea.
A lot of them have a vested interest in lying about the regime.

>>507934829
They have an intranet instead of an Internet in order to guard the country against the powerful influence of Western propaganda, and the CIA's army of social media bots and shills.
I also don't see why state media is inherently more biased than billionaire-owned private media. Both of them have their biases. But with state media if the state is run in a democratic manner then at least it's more accountable to the people.
I'm just trying to figure out if North Korea's actually a democracy or not. I think a lot of the horror stories you hear from there are false. Maybe they all really do just love Kim Jong Un and the WPK.

best korea is best

>>507933877 (OP)
Time for your meds

>>507933877 (OP)
you'd be able to go on vacation there.

>>507933877 (OP)
I'm willing to believe anything isn't true
https://rumble.com/v5zlblw-now-that-we-know-everything-is-fake.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

>>507933877 (OP)
It's not enough to have nukes, you also have to cultivate an image that you are crazy enough to use them. Half the stories about how crazy North Korea is are released by North Korea themselves for exactly this purpose.

>>507935077
I agree with this.
North Korea, reportedly, also offers free universal healthcare and education up to the college level, of course depending on academic performance. They try to graduate engineers (for obvious reasons; they need defense capabilities).
With all the trade now with Russia and China, I don't believe North Koreans are hungry all the time anymore, though maybe there was widespread hunger there in the past.
Also, North Korea is becoming a tourist country. They even built a ski resort that some intrepid tourists, who like their travels to be off the beaten path, go to visit.
And North Korea's economy is supposedly growing fast right now, again due to Russia and China trade.

>>507935077
membah when he threw his uncle into a pack of dogs and laughed as they tore him apart? I membah
>>507935343
just be a good party member, do your duty
be taken care of by glorious leader
it's not some end of the world
plus he's been softening a whole LOT of the state control, so now people can put up their own restaurants and sell a bit of their produce and shit
and that's been going on for like 12 years now

>>507933877 (OP)
Op I'll do you one better.
Truth is, there is no such thing as North Korea. " North Korea " doesn't exist.

>>507935528
>you'd be able to go on vacation there.
You actually can. Tourism is becoming a serious business in North Korea.

>>507935077
Absolutely, and I agree. Most are just going about their daily lives. I think it is a dictatorship, but for the majority of people the only way this effects their lives is because of import/export restrictions and their shitty soldiers wandering up to their houses and demanding food, and general fuckery.

I think it probably kind of sucks there and that people definitely get sent off for some bullshit reasons because it's pretty corrupt. I imagine that's kind of stressful, and not having food gets to people eventually. I don't think people are walking around absolutely terrified 24/7 though and that it's probably mostly normal there other than general shittiness.

Everyone always wants to talk about the Kims but Turkmenistan is pretty wild too.

>>507933877 (OP)
nah, lookit that gook

>>507935865
exactly
there's KOREA
and south korea

What if Russians are just raging alcoholics and every now and then they stumble off a balcony?

>>507936102
turkmenistan is FUCKIN' LOCO but Korea is the bee's knees, that's why everybody wants to talk about it
did ya know a turkmen president built (had built) a giant 20some km staircase thru a mountain where he made the whole political class walk once a year while he watched them from a helicopter?
day of health he called it
>ain't that some shit

>>507937203
It's truly way more bizarre than even anti-norkie propagandist want you to believe DPRK is. Glad someone else gets it, though DPRK will always be my long term special interest probably.

>>507937100
it's known to happen
heck it even happens in perfect monarchical democracies like england
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/judge-dies-after-fall-from-flat-window-idUSL25634670/
>>507937340
Kim is a beautiful man, and he's making a great country
but they'll have to wait till the world changes a bit more, though the smell of the tide is already in the air

>>507934847
>north korea needs DIVERSITY (under very strict control)
Based

>>507933877 (OP)
true.
same as iran, a magic place to live

They want to generate revenue. They have women. Can't they put 1+1 together?

North Korea is best Korea.

>>507937815
well I DO think it's fine knowing a bit of other cultures and ways of being, even if it's only for political protocol interests
like how the japanese bow and ya shouldn't shout at them and such
doesn't mean you should have a million damn migrants shitting up your streets with their own ways of life
>>507937866
well the kikes are trying to put an end to it

>>507933877 (OP)
people have been there you fucking moron normal average people

>>507938119
And they said that a lot of it is exaggerated

>>507933877 (OP)
>isn't actually a dictatorship and the media is just lying to us?
Can't you tell the difference between lies and Truth?
Mainsteam news does lie most of the time, but if you're mature, intelligent & spiritually alive you should be able to tell most of the time.

>>507937876
They already whore them out, it's a whole thing. They do cam shows and shit through Chinese camgirl sites.

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>>507938235
Yeah, it is, they don't eat babies there and live just to attack South Korea.

They're just like any other shithole of a dictatorship - the fat fuck feasts while the normal people are malnourished midgets that eat bugs and dream of a better life, but have no idea what that is.

>>507933877 (OP)
It's an authoritarian regime but definetly not the "LOL the supreme leader has absolute power and if you get killed for any minor thing you do wrong" that the media painta them to be and most people have a normal life of a poor east asian country. They have a parliament and when it comes to their internal policy it's mostly in the hands to the parliament, but when it comes to foreign policy, military, nuclear, Kin Jon Un has supreme authority.

>>507938992
Wow 160cm midgets with 1993 SMG that fires makarov rounds (lol).
Now let's see the average lived-in house in North Korea. Someone from the poverty line. How about it?

>>507938853
It would be terrible if you told us about these sites..

>>507939170
Norks will survive whatever hardship the rest of the global economy endures because norks are a pariah Nation, a hermit kingdowm, seperate from the rest of the world. They will gradually develop in a wholesome manner, rather than in a degenerate and decadent manner. Remember from history: the iron curtain shielded Eastern Europe from decadent neo-morals, for the most part, up until recently.

>>507939208
They change all the time because I think it's not actually legal in China? But obviously they have them still. I browsed one maybe eight months ago and was pretty certain a girl I found on it was norkie, I just sorted by Korean but she definitely did not seem to be from SK and also did not seem like she wanted to be there at all lol.

You can probably find some reports on it, that's how I went down the rabbit hole. Wish I had some sites to give you, anon, sorry.

>>507933877 (OP)
This is the point where your fat sweaty hairy ass actually goes outside in an effort to interact with the real world, or you could just ask a bunch of fellow fap masters for their opinion.

>>507938992
Imagine living in a real ethnostate.

>>507933877 (OP)
Go fuck yourself, Kim.

>>507939315
Yeah no matter how bad the global economy gets, norks will always have plenty of worms to dig out of the ground and eat.

>>507939188
she's got the forehead, but i'd still fuck her

>>507939442
This is like the only large ethno-state on the planet, too. There is a White-only Afrikaner/Boer city called Orania, and some other states that are >99% ethnically homogeneous therefore close enough to pass as ethno-states, but those are an increasing rarity in the increasingly globalized world

>>507933877 (OP)
Is living there pleasant? Probably not, but we know everyone is watched by the government, but we also it's been debunked that it's a distopian hellhole where the worst crimes of humanity occur. It is a Monarchy traditionally, and behaves closer to one rather than a third-world dictatorship. So I would speculate modern serfdom to the state.

It is honestly impressive they've been able to succeed as much as they have since the Korean War. It was predicted by most US media that they would collapse within 10 years with NATO sanctions, and since China wasn't was a dominant superpower yet, NATO thought they couldn't succeed. Somehow they've scrapped by. Are the citizens happy? I have no idea.

>>507939315
>Remember from history: the iron curtain shielded Eastern Europe from decadent neo-morals, for the most part, up until recently.
The fall of the USSR might be the beginning of the end of the Slavic race.

>>507933877 (OP)
northkorea will outlast south korea who is escentially spiritually death ironically
Southkorean chaebols had enslaved and psyoped their population way to much beyond repair while north korea has a resemblance of respect for their traditions, south korea overlords (chaebols and united states) will prioritize always the needs of shareholders and political interest before the ones of the country itself

North Korea is a dictatorship, as in it's rule by a dictator, that is correct.
But beyond that all the negative connotations are wrong.

North Korea is no different to the thousands of other kingdoms of the past.
Like Tudor England was a dictatorship, pre-civil war England was a dictatorship. Prussia was a dictatorship, Bavaria under Ludwig II was a dictatorship, the Holy Roman Empire was a dictatorship. The Roman Empire was a dictatorship, etc. Any European country with a monarchy nowadays is a de facto dictatorship even with the "constitutional monarchy" cope.

>>507933877 (OP)
After the events of the past two weeks, and possible future events of the next two weeks.

I don't think this guy is as bad as I initially thought, in relative terms.

>>507933877 (OP)
Why does no one ever talk about the extremely high defection rate for American GIs in the Korean war?

In case you're not aware, we are the ones starving them through the UN embargo (since 2006) and previous sanctions before. The United States never withdrew their wartime sanctions on North Korea and is still technically at war with them (only an armistice was signed, but no peace treaty). And that was even before they started to develop nuclear weapons. The Kims are lunatics alright, but so are the rest of us who demand total capitulation (uhm, reminds you of something?) for them to exist.

>Kim Jong-un's room was filled with manga and games, and it is said that Kim Jong-un's favorite manga was "soccer-themed works." He liked games like Mario and Tetris, and played them with Fujimoto (a Japanese man who served as Kim Jong-un's chef).

>One day, while drawing a picture of the Tower of Juche, Kim Jong-un asked, "Fujimoto, are there tall towers in Japan too?" Fujimoto told Kim Jong-un about Tokyo Tower and showed him a drawing of it, which delighted Kim Jong-un, who then put the picture away in a box for safekeeping.

>>507933877 (OP)
That's what I believe. North Korea is the only country in the world U.S. citizens are not allowed to travel to. You can go to Africa and get eaten by cannibals, you can go to Gaza and get blown up, you can go anywhere, but if you ever go to North Korea they permanently revoke your passport and ban you from ever leaving the country again.

>>507933877 (OP)
The same way the US produces propaganda portraying China as a shit hole when China is verifiably better in every single way and USA is the shit hole.

>>507935343
Why can't India have an intranet. They should be banned off the world wide web for their crimes. Same with Nigeria

>>507935077
I think it really depends on the class of the person in North Korea. High class people are always going to be treated well, but the lower class and military are probably not treated that well. That being said, most of the country is more a Black market dealer and trader than a communism or dictatorship, it probably has it's criminal divisions of power.

>>507934620
you can defect then become an actor playing the evil american villain then pitch the cheers idea.

>>507941872
Chat is this real?