This has never been used before in a real combat scenario
There's no guarantee that it will work

>>507950679 (OP)
My penis is much smaller than this. I can't compete.

>>507950679 (OP)
Why not just drop the moab

>>507950679 (OP)
they should drop like 5 or 6 of these to get down to the nuke bunker

>>507950679 (OP)
I'm pretty sure a few of these were dropped in Iraq

>>507950679 (OP)
USA already used MOPs and B2s during Operation Freedom.
More Amerimutts ended up dying than Afghans.

>>507950824
the moab isnt a bunker buster, that iranian nuclear facility is like 90 meters underground surrounded by granite and made from new high tech concrete

Imagine if the Iranians did some of their own sneaky bullshit and just lied about the dimensions like instead of 50 feet of special concrete it’s actually 500 feet of concrete under a huge slab of granite lmao that shit would be so kino

>No guarantee it will work
You know they test this shit right? Why do you think tests are different from actual combat use when the target is a fucking mountain?

>>507950824
>The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily an air burst bomb intended for soft to medium surface targets
different guy

you need only collapse the entrance.

>>507950679 (OP)
Bombing runs are hardly combat. it's more of a turn in Civ.it either works or it doesn't depending on the defenses that Iran would have built up.

>>507950881
No I just read the Wikipedia article so I'm an expert now and
>The MOAB was first deployed in combat on the 13 April 2017 airstrike against an Islamic State – Khorasan Province tunnel complex in Achin District, Afghanistan

>>507950969
you are assuming there's just one

>>507950679 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dra-aDtjFVs

>>507950679 (OP)
dropping bombs from planes is pretty tried and true.

>>507951072
these IS tunnels arent all that deep, cant really compare this to the iranian bunkers.

>>507950679 (OP)
Actual precision in the field and whether secondary hits will efficiently follow the previous hole well are certainly a concern
Otherwise, it's basically just a big tungsten bullet jacketed in iron-cobalt with a little warhead along for the ride, you can figure out exactly the reported penetration depths from density ratio times length
The single shot penetration depth is essentially assured, very dumb momentum exchange based physics just like penetration with bullets from conventional firearms

>>507951072
>>507950881
MOAB is not the same as the MOP (OP bomb) retards

>>507950977
meant to say static defenses, since active air defense isnt really feasible against a B2

>>507950679 (OP)
>There's no guarantee that it will work
kek retard. I would think if anyone knows britbongs would that if there's one thing Americans love more than owning weapons its using them. Do you honestly think we didn't drop at least a dozen of these things on bunkers filled with blowup dolls dressed like osama bin laden or some shit?

most delusional cope I've seen all day, which is impressive

>>507951181
>pasted from the wrong wiki
now i'm the retard, fuck

>>507950885
>>507950931
still it would be pretty cool tho

>>507950824
>MOAB
Massive Ordnance Air Blast
>MOP
Massive Ordnance Penetrator
Lurk for 2 more years before making a comment.

>>507950969
so they can dig it out again?

>>507950679 (OP)
>This has never been used before in a real combat scenario
>There's no guarantee that it will work
Bullshit. It's more likely to over-perform beyond expectations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/19/trump-caution-on-iran-strike-linked-to-doubts-over-bunker-buster-bomb-officials-say
It probably would work but Trump is losing sleep over it
Tbh I thought they dug it out within a mountain, would that just be impossible to do?

>>507950885
>high tech concrete
Redpill me on high tech concrete.

>>507950851
We should drop your faggoty ass in on Iran.

The bomb will very likely function but no guarantee it will be enough without multiple strikes

>>507951280
What if they used two of them, first bombing the exposed exhaust vent and then dropping a second one down the hole? Tom Cruise could be in one of the planes.

>>507951286
Imagine 40,000 to 60,000 pounds per square inch concrete that also has some flexibility to avoid cracking. .

>>507951280
>Those in the briefing heard that completely destroying Fordow, which Israeli intelligence estimates to go down as far as 300ft (90 metres), would require the US to soften the ground with conventional bombs and then ultimately drop a tactical nuclear bomb from a B2 bomber to wipe out the entire facility, a scenario Trump is not considering.
What do you guys think about this btw?
They say 'entire facility' but it seems that merely wiping out a good portion would be enough

>>507951286
Some chemical additions to improve stress, but also just putting dense shit in the mix
Higher density inversely reduces penetration depth, and shock waves are also just momentum delivered quick. Higher density also increases acoustic impedence, which makes the fraction reflected off the surface increase. This actually increases the total force on the surface over a long timescale, but reduces the peak intensity of the transmitted shock

>>507951377
>the bomb...functioned?

>>507950882
Why don't you shitskins go back to your desert shithole rather than invade england? I can smell the curry through the screen. Honestly I don't know how your people will survive seeing as you can't even think or google for yourself anymore

>>507951461
>almost 80 years of nuclear weapons
>in that time no one has used them but the us
Nooooo you can’t have them it’s too scary. This shit is so asinine

>>507951461
The 350kt mark 11 will penetrate 150 feet and destroy everything within a cubic mile. If it manages to hit an artery the force will clear out the entire complex. There won't be any surviving that, even if you got people a mile underground.

>>507950679 (OP)
it wont penetrate hundreds of meters of mountain rock, so they can't airstrike-kill whatever they want whenever they want. The supreme leader is likely in a mountain bunker

>>507951461
B-2 Spirits were always my favorite plane (after the F-117 Nighthawk but it's too late for that now) so I'm in favor of whatever lets them fly irl.

>>507951582
You got beaten by a bunch of goatfuckers in flip flops. They have a total patriarchy now and get cunny wives who cook clean take it up the ass and make them delicious food. While you betabux Tyrone and Rex's leftovers. You lost and you will lose again, kek.

>>507950679 (OP)
they know this they are only 90 percent sure it will work, that 10 percent means ground war.

>>507950679 (OP)
It won't work. It doesn't have infinite depth, and Iranians are not retards.

>>507951728
London is brown and he's going to overdose on corn syrup. Total American victory albeit.

>>507950679 (OP)
It probably works according to "spec".
But it boils down to Iran's competence.
How deep are their tunnels? How spread out are the tunnels? How good is the AA and EW, which could affect accuracy? etc.
There're plenty of real life variables to consider.

>>507951861
>London is brown
Says the Mutt

Oh the ironing.

>>507951753
problem is b-21 ultra stealthy, it wide as fuck and can get shot down. They basically need 2 bombs in the same spot to maybe bust the most shallow part of the base that they know of.

Inspector inside have said it goes deeper down, iran has other regions that are even deeper.

They know this they know b-21 won't fully cause they don't know where the whole facilities are and how deep each region is, the important regiosn. At best they can fuck up the shallowest part but that requires minimum 2 bombs same place they need more to ensure it. b-21 is vulnerable.

>>507951861
UK is 80% white, meanwhile only 16% of Americans have blue eyes. True mutt race, literal Afghan shitskins are whiter than you lul.

>>507951970
>you're brown so it doesn't matter that i am too
???

>>507951753
Also Most likely layers of UHPC to get through as well
This will be a shitfest

>>507951718
This she's just to sexy to sit and rot on the airstrip

>>507951718
Nighthawks don't even look like they should be able to fly. It's cool that they brought them out of retirement to wargame against f-22's.
>>507951452
>>507951542
Thx frens

>>507952099
>UK is some number less than 100% white
>uuhhhh welll it's only in the cities!!
you're brown

>>507951728
What exactly are the conditions for winning? We obviously straight up invaded your countries and did whatever the fuck we wanted for the better part of a decade, killed your leaders, replaced them with our own, and then killed those ones for shits and giggles.

Meanwhile you roaches scatter to other countries because you are a failure to your own, utterly incapable of turning your shithole into something resembling a stable society. It's laughable that you even comment on the state of politics. Our soldiers won't even need to go over there at this point. We will just send a swarm of amazon package carriers, except instead of cumin they'll be delivering bombs

>>507951861
He's likely some invading shitskin in London I imagine. Hopefully they get their shit together and send them back. Every time I see one of them posts I am a bit more sympathetic to us bombing them

>>507952105
You're projecting kid.

There is an 80% chance I am white but a 40% chance that you are.

Why not just send 16 of them, 2 each. 32 of those bunker buster bombs should be enough to put it out of commission for a while.

>>507952144
>hey grandpa, we know you’re retired now but, just play with us and pretend you’re a cruise missile

>>507951718
b-2s always looked awesome. never liked the f117 flying polygon. f22 is the goat.

>>507952162
Si si, Senor Gomez. Tus ojos siempre serán marrones como tu trasero.
>>507952210
Que? De todas formas, las musulmanas tienen diez hijos cada una. Y sí, sé que lo entiendes, todos tus carteles están en español. ¡Perros! Jajaja.

>>507952254
real men cried
>>507952236
>wins a 40% gamble
must be my lucky day
>>507952371
>speaks fluent spanish
you are brown or maybe just coal black, who knows

>>507952371
If you're an actual britbong that's honestly even more pathetic that you shitpost here projecting onto the rest of the world when there is probably some mudslime as you read this message feeling up your women while the rest of the world is fixing their shit.

I would tell you to grow some balls and do something but we both know that's not happening

>>507952254
>>507952261
Kiss these days can't appreciate the hard edges of low poly art style.

2.5 tons of high explosives can produce a shock wave that would collapse voids located thousands of feet deep. Knowing this, Iranian engineers may have constructed sacrificial voids splitting off in different directions. Using varying cements and other materials, engineers could channel multiple detonations away from the main working spaces.

Very expensive, yet doable. Once the first wave ends, the Iranians will confirm U.S. direct participation OR the Israelis dumped a few from a C-130.

Somebody will try. Only lose face if it fails.

>>507952440
Eres un 'amerimutt goblino' así que te hablo en español. Sé que puedes entender cada palabra.

>>507951861
picrel

>>507952610
they gonna send in solid snake.

>>507952525
Señor, nadie es pakís. Son los incels por excelencia, como los indios y los judíos. Deje de creer en la propaganda judía.

>>507950679 (OP)
why not US just give those to israel and let them do the job without US directly getting involved? I mean, all israel stuff from the US so why not, and rent the truck (bomber) for few days only

>>507950679 (OP)
>13kg bombs
winkwink

>>507952627
Yeah anyways I want guac on my burrito bowl thanks.
>>507952732
why's the arrow pointing down for you haha?

>>507952780
The B-2 actually works, unlike the F-35. We'd never get it back.

>>507950679 (OP)
it will work, trust me bro. America has the best military technology (after israel) in the world.

>>507952847
because you can expand it for the full breakdown...

>>507950679 (OP)
>not a standoff weapon
yeah any minor air defense will down the bomber

if they dont know if it will work, why dont they just test it and see if it works and how deep it goes

>>507951181
how did they breached Tora Bora, then?

or did they used different bunker busters?

>>507952908
Israel couldn't afford its upkeep.

why do we need to destory the facility just blow up anything that comes out of it
let them have their uranium but they can never get it out of there

>>507952940
So your argument is because your demographics are only as bad as ours were 30 years ago you won? How many deportations has Kier Starmer done so far since his big boy pants speech? Or are they starting in two more weeks?

>>507953011
do you have an identical mountain lying around that could be tested on?

>>507950679 (OP)
>le epic wundewaffe

>>507953011
>MOP epic prank, take 1

>>507950824

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo

>>507952525
>I would tell you to grow some balls and do something but we both know that's not happening
The rape gangs were over 11 years ago . . .we had our protests and arrests ages ago.

Just one thing to note:
Britain, Ireland, Australia, Euro countries hold regular protests against immigrants . . .. Never seen them in Muttland??

The only thing I have seen in Muttland is protests in FAVOUR of immigrants?

Where are the so-called 'white Americans' ?
probably hiding in their basements pretending they will use their guns in 2 weeks.

Niggers and Spics rule your streets.

FUCKING PATHETIC.

>>507951582
Do something about the shitskins invading your country rather than the ones that stayed home and are minding their own business. These retarded wars started by israel are only reason they're squatting in western nations to begin with.

Adjust the radar for lower frequency shutter moving in a straight line.

Why not leave Iran alone

>>507953355
White people know not to live in niggerville.
If you don't live here you think we all dodge gunfire on our way to work, when in reality the only people who get shot here are gang members and drug dealers.
The average /pol/tard propagandized

>>507953483
Right on cue . . . .. here come the excuses.

>>507953011
we did. Google MOP test

>>507953355
>and arrests ages ago
Funny timeline to explain something that only just happened because Elon Musk became autistically obsessed with the case.
>Euro countries hold regular protests against immigrants
Yeah and then they vote in a RIGHT WING GOVERNMENT on the backs of YOUNG WHITE MEN and then...nothing changes.

>>507950679 (OP)
If one isn't enough the strategy is to drop two in rapid succession. The first one punches a hole for the second one to go deeper.

>>507950679 (OP)
>a bomber
You're kidding me. You actually think a bomber is gonna make it over the mountains safely?
Kekkkkkkk

It's amazing how many peopled downed the "America is a superpower" koolaid.

>>507950679 (OP)
>There's no guarantee that it will work
>>>
oh fuck yes there is lol

>>507953624
militaryindustrialcomplexbros i don't feel so good...

>>507953656
Just like in my favorite Top Gun sequels.

>>507953644
>Funny timeline to explain something that only just happened because Elon Musk became autistically obsessed with the case.
Nothing to do with Musk you faggot.
The repercussions have been going on for years, Tommy Robinson has been inside countless times for his involvement.

You Mutts really are stupid.

>>507953656
TWO BOMBERS? AHAHAHAHAHAHA

They might as well make the bombers shaped like clay pigeons.

>>507953797
>we go to prison for protesting against immigrants, so there
oh yeah i forgot about that part hahahaha holy shit

>>507953831
This is the part of the movie I didn't understand. Why didn't they just bomb the SAM sites? If we do it that way this time it might work.

>>507950679 (OP)
Are you a zoomer? We used bunker busters all the time during the Afghanistan war. Why we made the fucking things to blow up all tunnels and hidden bunkers

>>507950881
Half right friendo. Are you recalling the Fox News with the info graph of the penetration of all ordinance we had

>>507953615
Yep, it’s just sad to see. Coping is part of Amerimutt DNA

>>507953948
Fuck off retard.

>>507951286
We can make really fancy concrete reinforced with carbon fiber rebar that's strong as fuck. The problem is that it's way more expensive so it rarely gets used.

>>507953862
No Mutts every go to prison for protesting against immigrants - do they?

That's because you are too fucking cowardly to.
The only people that go to jail in the Jewnited states are those that protest in favour of illegals.

Fucking cowards, the lot of you.

>>507954062
No really if they don't have any SAMs then how would our bombers get shot down? That was the big problem they had after blowing up the enrichment facility.

Take this shit back to /k/

nobody cares about your small penis threads.

>>507953027
They would just sell it to china to recoup their costs, they would also make US pay for the maintenance

>>507953951
Bombing some puny underground muzzie bunker is a little fucking different than an enrichment facility 80m deep beneath a mountain.

>>507954083
Well there is Patriot Front but /pol/ calls them feds because then you wouldn't be able to say shit like this. And Charlottesville but that was also a fedop because uhh well it just was ok? Anyways have fun hitting 79.99% in a couple years.

>>507953951
We used the 24 and 28 the pic he posted is a newer larger version.

>>507953090

do it (for fun)

>>507950679 (OP)
They couldn't even disarm Yemen

>>507950679 (OP)
How advanced is irans militairy really?

Do they have good anti air?
How do the israelis get in there with planes dropping bombs, doesnt iran have radar and anti air shit that should be able to destroy those?

Is iran real or just a western propaganda thing for the kilitairy industrial complex to make money and to counter all the money printing theyve done in the covid era

Putin just said there are over 100 Russian nuclear scientists from Rosatom in Iran right now building civilian nuclear reactors, and that he is in contact with Israel guaranteeing their security. This whole war is a sham.

>>507954317
It turns out if you destroy all that stuff first you can just kind of do whatever you want next.

>>507954317
>Do they have good anti air?
no, israeli planes have mostly free roam over iranian skies. the main issue is the huge distance they have to travel. this is why the US sent like 40 tanker planes to the middle east. the F-35's need mid-air refueling to launch operations over iran. iranian air defense is mostly just cannon fire which is only good for shooting down drones. most of their missile AD has already been destroyed (there wasn't much to begin with). putin said yesterday that iran showed no interest in russian offers for air defense systems, nor did they ask for help so far. iran has MANPAD's but don't know how prevalent they are. they have at least one S-300 and one pantsir-S system that was donated by russia for trials or something long ago, but i'm pretty sure the radar for the S-300 was destroyed last year and the pantsir-S was spotted abandoned at an empty parking lot (not that a single vehicle means shit but whatever).

>>507954317
>How do the israelis get in there with planes dropping bombs,
Jordan, Syria and Iraq are under control of the USA, so Israel can fly through their airspace . . .Iran however cannot.

>>507954248
We used Mother of All Bombs to blow up
a very deep stronghold that killed all top guys hiding in Afghanistan

cant they just relocate israel citizens to north america and permanently end 90 % of wars in middle east

>>507951582
> Have absolute tech superiority
> Call am airstrike every time you hear a firecracker going off
> Lose 45k ANA cannon fodder to keep your mutt ass safe
> Loses
What did they mean by this?

>>507950679 (OP)
Drop Nickocado, he's the original bunker buster secret weapon of U S A

>>507955135
The founding of Israel and the 'blind-eye' to their their war crimes, is what has caused the instability in the Middle East, all under protection from the JewSA.

>>507954779

MOAB/daisy cutter type bombs detonate above ground and produce a large blast wave that propagates outward and consumes the oxygen in its path and crushes surface voids with massive pressure differential. This wave does not penetrate into the earth. Individuals bunched up near the open cave complex entrances died but those deeper may have survived. Using both MOAB (surface burst) and MOP (earth penetrating) types can improve the defeat of the structure as can setting off explosive and combustible materials stored there.

>>507955135
No, just let them have immunity in a settlement in Finland

>>507950679 (OP)
I think they used it in iraq

>>507953831
>pigeons
Classified.

>>507955286
I lold. I used to watch a bunch of vegan YouTube back in the day (I'm vegetarian but try to be vegan most of the time)

That is a lie. Bunker busters were used in Iraq against civilians taking shelter in bomb shelters.

>>507955686
It didn't exist then. We used other penetrating ordnance, some of which reportedly worked and some failed. Some deployed with fuses that counted voids/"floors" and purportedly detonated at the desired level.

>>507954600
Isnt it kinda odd iran didnt build up their AA after all these years? This shit was always gonna happen, right?

Is it a money issue? What is their main business anyway? Oil?

>>507950679 (OP)
They need to clear stale ordinace thats been building up since Afghanistan.
May aswell use it on sand people as it was intended.

>>507955532
That's too cold for the poor jews, they just got out of the baking oven in Auschwitz you can't just dump them into the arctic. I propose we put them in the territory of their greatest ally, America. Perhaps a nice big city like New York would suit them well - after all the stock exchange is located nearby.

>>507955995
Yeah I'm honestly kind of worried for them. Like what are their options if US decides to just start doing bombing raids?

>>507955995

Iran has a massive, very advanced and resourceful defense industry. It has built up its AA in part by copying other countries.

Iran produces more engineers each year than does the U.S., UK or France.

Iran does not have a quality semiconductor-electronics industry due to embargo. This is Iran's achilles heel.

>>507951753
dude if theres any container within this facility its long gone anyway probably already sticked to a Fatah missile for retaliation

>>507951217
>most delusional cope I've seen all day, which is impressive
So, the GBU-57 helps you coping with your erection issues?
The bomber needs to get to the target area. They need to drop the bomb precisely on the underground target, preferably on a flat surface to actually penetrate the ground, but it is still not guaranteed it will get through.
It will most probably be an utterly ineffective attempt. If you want to take out targets like that, you need to get in with ground troops, but you are really not prepared for an actual war.

>>507956042
Your continent is like 80% desert
Mine as well use it in you.

>>507950679 (OP)
>There's no guarantee that it will work
I'm guessing they did a bunch of calculations, but I'm having a hard time believing that they know the exact details of the underground bunker and terrain composition.
They always took into account that these B2's could be lost in some cold war peer-scenario, but if by some chance some Iranians blew it out of the sky it would be a fucking disaster.

>>507950679 (OP)
Would be cool if Iranians shot down the B2 with some cheap 20 year old rocket.

>>507956536
But how do israelis come trough their AA defense so easily?

And the semiconductor shit, you mean CPUs and shit? They can just buy from china and russia right?

>>507956819
Was meant for>>507956416

>>507956819
What I was about to ask. They may have a lot of resources and diligent work going towards Defense but that doesn't mean they have modern Anti Air capabilities, that I have heard of at least.

>>507950679 (OP)
Those types of wunderwaffen only exist on paper so that PMCs can siphon money from the federal government
Like that missile that shoots metal blades that was allegedly used to kill a single al-qaeda general one time and never used again

>>507950679 (OP)
It's not a complicated bomb dude, we were using things as complex as this during WWII.

>>507952610
I'm honestly surprised we aren't just flinging glide bombs through the tunnels.

>>507950679 (OP)
I thought we used at least 1 in 2003 when we invaded Iraq.

>>507955468
From what I’m hearing what they’d do. They saying they’d have to drop several bombs to soften the mountain up before dropping GBU-57A/B But we’d also have to have boots on the forums to make sure it blew up its targets

>>507957220
Bunker is a German word and those busters were specifically developed to penetrate Submarine pen during ww2 but those bunkers are still there. The concrete the Nazis used is now fully hardened lmao

>>507950679 (OP)
won't help you get through half a mile of mountain either way
>>507950758
fippy bippy

>>507956819

>>But how do israelis come trough their AA defense so easily?

"The bomber will always get through." true WWII, true today.

It's impossible to target sub-aircraft sized precision missiles in quantity. The Israelis are launching practically invisible high and subsonic missiles in combination with stealth, decoys and jamming systems to destroy AA in advance of the main attacks. Not even the U.S., China, Europe or Russia could prevent 100% of incoming missiles and aircraft from leaking through the defenses. The Israelis are attacking with foreign intelligence (satellites, awacs, electronic surveillance)
advantages. Both Iran and Israel are running out of AA.

>>And the semiconductor shit, you mean CPUs and shit? They can just buy from china and russia right?

No, they cannot acquire in quantity. China is directing its excess to Russia and other sellers to Ukraine and the U.S., which buys up surplus to keep supplies off the markets.

>>507950679 (OP)
I would be extremely surprised if these actually penetrated more than 1 meter into Norwegian granite.

>>507951718
You stole the design from the germans in ww2.

>>507950977
>it's more of a turn in Civ
kek

it seems doubtful this thing could simply push its way through dozens of meters of concrete.

there's just one massive problem...

>>507958006

Uh no, lettuce picker. The Germans never produced an intercontinental bomber. They never resolved stability problems for a large aerobody (needed digital computers for control). Failed to appreciate the stealth tricks employed by B-2. Hasta la bye bye.

>>507950851
They should test a few hundred of them on israel first, just to make sure they work.

>>507958312
good thing hitting the ground is literally its one job

>>507950679 (OP)
It's meant to penetrate concrete, and not even the best dense shit that would be used in modern bunkers. It's got no chance against 80m of rock.

>>507955829
I don't know who you are but I love you. Leaving more meat for other people is a good thing.

>>507950679 (OP)

90 meters? Most normal bunker busters would affect it after a multiple hits. I think 90 meters is guesswork. Sublayers. What were the ordinance Israel used on Hezbollah's bunker. But it needs a bomber dropping that payload. The weight cannot be dropped by the F class?

In case it looks like commandos are a go. But somebody should test it first.

If they control the skies, use a Lidar drone for better depth readings. It probably cannot? You'd have dropped one anyway by now?

>>507959121
They’ve blown up mountains with MOAB. They would drop one or several before the bunker buster.

>>507959589
The Iranian facilities are under 800m (half a mile) of rock

how accurate is it? can you drop one in the hole left by another? if so you could dig deeper and deeper with bomb after bomb. maybe if you got closer when dropping it

>>507959589

Nonsense blown up mountains. In Afghanistan its last live test on a mine? Trump dropped it in combat. Explain the damage? It did far more surface? Am I wrong?

Somebody should've tested it by now Snuck one in after publicly presenting a plane to Israel. Done it anyway. Open skies?

>>507958778

>>507950679 (OP)
>There's no guarantee that it will work

Perhaps it should be tested on xxxxxx palace?

>>507959960
Bottom line is boots will have to be on ground to make sure hit it it’s target and if it didn’t they’d have do go in and blow it up themselves. So this operation is not as easy as neocons and Israel making it out to be Not going to be go in drop one bomb, blow it up and call it a day

>>507960387
Why is the blackbird so long? And what was its use exactly? Fly really high for bragging purposes?

>>507959640
i dont believe there is any material available which has enough shear strength to go that deep

>>507960792
I think this just bullshit to get boots on ground in Iran

>>507960932
yeah good luck

>>507958312
Boeing builds the JDAM too, nigger

>>507960387
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5zLOQy7Ai3E

how the fuck a bomb can penetrate 100m of rocky mountain?
it pushes rocks and dirt aside? even then iranians have high tech bunkers under these mountains.
I can understand if a tungsten rod dropped from space it can penetrate 40 or 50 meters of ground but not 100

>>507957837
So iran cant get for example the newest amd processors in bulk?

>>507960704
Fly incredibly fast and incredibly high and take really good pictures. It is not armed in any way, just a recon plane. Designed in 1958 on pen and paper. If people honestly believe we retired this plane without having a replacement already in the air, they are delusional.

I do not expect the bunker buster to work in any way shape or form. This will 100% be an embarrassment for Trump.

Also...people talking about the B2 or even the B21 (don't believe for a second it isn't mission capable) when we literally have teams of SB3-Ghouls in the skies above us right now.

>>507950679 (OP)
>This has never been used before
Zoomer detected

>>507961652
Its an anazing plane. Didnt know it was that old.
Werner von braun and his freunds probably helped with creating it

>>507961821
I have no doubt Zee Germans were involved in some way at least. They were working on hypersonics in 1938. Best engineers ever.

>>507951728
>cunny wives
Don't they really like boys over there? Or did the Taliban put a stop to it?

>>507958312
Hopefully the defense core of the McDonald-Douglas core of Boeing isn't rotten.

>>507961812
hes right, it hasnt

>>507950881
The predecessor was. The zoomers commenting are to young to remember what you are referring to. The GBU-28 was basically slapped together from old artillery guns in a couple weeks. We used a few in the Gulf war and one in the last Iraq war. They worked flawlessly and were cheap. This is 10x the size but built in peace time so it's probably 100x the cost.

>>507961821
It's basic defense was speed and altitude. Zero stealth ability, just pure sexy speed. It has been fired upon multiple times but never hit. It simply outran the missiles each time. The admitted top speed is around mach 3.5 but I suspect that is on the low side. Some Blackbird stories:
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/33viV7MH58s
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iiVUB6GYbQ

>>507950923
It actually is. The Iranians were smart and dug under granite mountains and its hundreds of meters deep, not 90. All this posturing is because Israel and their mutt golem cant do it. Otherwise they would have done it already.

Here is a good article about this

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/19/why-israel-wants-us-bunker-busters-to-hit-irans-fordow-nuclear-site

13 ton bomb can’t fly far so that means they’ll have to send bombers right on top the target.
This is a potential disaster in making. Yeah it’s stealth and all but if you know where it’s gonna be it’s a lot easier to shoot it down. Imagine if Chinese or Russians gave them some of their newest missiles.

>>507952440
That shit aint fluent lmao.

>>507951582
It was all gay as fuck and pointless in the end.
You want to know what makes someone an alpha? picking up a rusty rifle, rubbing your two brain cells together and deciding you are going to fight an impossibly powerful foreign occupier till victory or death, and knowing you are probably going to die for very minimal gain, but doing it anyways.
That mindset won the war for them. That's why they are alpha, and you are not.
Talichads mogged the combined military might of the USA and coalition, and all geopolitical scheming the 'best minds' in the US government and ClA could ever come up with.
If you want to be 'alpha', then go back to afghanistan and throw yourself at their feet, beg forgiveness, and ask them to show you the truth path of a warrior. Because they actually know what it is.

>>507962617
Awesome thing. I read it had to be repaired after every flight because rivets and shit was missing:)

Also, swedes where once based

>>507963597
And appearantly it leaked fuel on take off, because the metal wasnt on operating temperature thus not sealing properly at cold temp

>>507963597
There was a lot of thermal expansion at the speeds it flew. It would start to leak fuel after a number of flights and everything had to be resealed. It typically launched with just enough fuel in the tanks to get it in the air and then was immediately refueled once in flight. Good article on the Swedes :D

And why the fuck wouldn't it work?
You understand basic physics right?
How the fuck do you think asteroid collisions work, magic??
High speed + high density = big fuckass hole, it's that simple.
Asteroids aren't even the most dense things you can make, not even close.
These bombs are made by some of the densest shit probably in the whole solar system that isn't under constant pressure (core of sun, jupiter and saturn, etc.)
Of course it would work.

Worse, if they strapped a nuclear capable explosive in to it when it went down, it could do even more damage to any underground bunkers.
A chemical explosive will do a bit of damage, tunnels built around to shield the bunker could channel a lot of that.
But a nuke? Yeah no chance. The pressure waves from a nuclear bunker buster would collapse everything that wasn't also made from the same material as the MOP.

>>507950679 (OP)
It's similar to the Tallboy bombs (except bigger) we used to crack German fortifications.

>>507950824
Because that weapon is like splashing a massive bucket of water on the beach, and doesn't penetrate deep into a bunker.

>>507959589
Nope, the MOAB is a fuel/air bomb, not a penetrator. They used it to suck the air out of caves and fry goat fuckers. Wont work on a hardened bunker.

>>507964400
I seem to remember one being used to collapse a mine being used by ISIS.

>>507950679 (OP)
13 tonne at whatever velocity that cunt flies at would go pretty deep. but depends on the design of the facility. if it is a spiral decline straight down like they use in underground mining then they're fucked but if it is a slow decline over a very long distance this bomb has no chance.

>>507964635
The bomb will supposedly penetrate like 200 feet of hardened concrete (or indeed rock or anything else).

>>507964072
One of the big kicks in the teeth to the MOP would be if they had built a bunch of channels that the bomb could enter and slowly be redirected away from the actual bunker.
Have a bunch of super dense channels that all coalesce like a rivers tiny tributaries eventually become said river.
You make the filling of those channels weaker material, or even empty.
If you make them straight enough and slowly wind away, the bomb WOULD take that path of least resistance.
But this also depends on how deep the bunker is. if you make the angle of those channels change too much too fast, the chances of the MOP taking it would be lesser.

A smart bunker design would be one that was designed in some sort of hollow layout, "circular" like with holes all around it for these channels to send a bomb down if it penetrated.
A fuckload of sacrificial channels to contain the explosive pressure below that.
Does Iran have that? We can't know for sure.

>>507950679 (OP)
Yes. It only works on WWII style bunkers where it meets directly with concrete. If it hits 15ft of sand, it wont do shit because the force of the explosion will be spread out through the sand grains and the concrete below will be untouched. You could probably use a sheet of glass under 15ft of sand and it wouldn't break.

>>507964784
The bomb penetrates and then explodes at depth.

>>507950679 (OP)
US is the king of making bunker busters, we've done it before.

>>507951861
>London
Your entire country is <50% White.

>>507964324
Get on my level boys
With the B61-13 variable yield nuclear weapon
Specifically mentioned for use cases such as hardened deep underground structures

>>507964829
They’re also sending more than 1. Sand is blown away

>>507963300
And yet you are here with us swimming with the tards. Speaking English. “Alpha” for you is ‘tard’ to any normie

>>507965010
Yeah, but the point is that the sheer mass and speed of the falling bomb punches it deep underground. A bit of sand will do absolutely nothing to that.

>>507964884
You're also the king of losing to arabs.

>>507950679 (OP)
Let's test it out.

>>507965132
As long as they are living in the stone age it's okay.

>>507964829
>>The bomb penetrates and then explodes at depth.
Anon, how does it penetrate concrete? by setting off a shaped charge, that allows a secondary bomb to fall inside the hole that was created. It won't get through the sand, and just blow up outside the bunker. Then sand then falls back into the hole. That's why we have sand over our bunkers now. We know the weakness.

>>507965391
By being heavy, being pointy, going faster than the speed of sound and being made of a very durable material.

>>507950679 (OP)
This is the kind of shit hitler dreamed of, well america probably stole this idea from his engineers or something. Perhaps Hitler shouldn't have been doing all that damn dope then! But Trump does remind me of Hitler in a way that they both played the media to boost themselves into the spotlight. Hitler had radio and Trump reigns on TV. Hitler targeted Jews, Trump is obsessed with sending Hispanics to death camps. History repeats itself I guess.

>>507965391
Clearly we need to strap a TNT duplicator on to the bomber.
Minecraftbros have that problem solved.

>>507950679 (OP)
they will fucken destroy your bases in the middle east and kill american soldiers, bomb your refineries, and block persian gulf if you use those bombs

>>507950679 (OP)
>gravity bomb is going to penetrate 200m of granite
it is pretty much guaranteed that it would not work. chances are the B2 would be shot down as well.

>>507950679 (OP)
Why don't Israel just make one of those? They knew Iran's nuclear facility is inside a montain for decades, so they had the time to build those missiles, right?

>>507950679 (OP)
These so called penetrators rely on optimal conditions for their claimed penetration depth, the Iranians are smart enough to have built in deflection countermeasures over anything that might be hit, might being the optimal word since they will literally be bombing a bunch of mountains without a clue whats under them so the chances of a hit lining up with a tunnel is also low. The bombs themselves are really heavy meaning they will have to be flown right in there making the attacks highly dangerous.

>>507965812
the bomb is too heavy for the planes that Israel has, it requires a B-2. and Israel can't even fly a F-35 into Iran without US/EU tanker to help them refuel midway.

>>507950679 (OP)
How is dropping it on a dirty hillside in Iran different than dropping it on a dirty hillside in Nevada?

>>507965925
Why didn't they make something like B2's all this time?

>>507950679 (OP)

>>507964946
This is the kind of thing that would annihilate stuff like >>507964777
Even more so if you made them larger somehow, but that would need some sort of hybrid bomber or a better bomber to deliver it, if not some giga-rocket.
There would be somewhat some advantages to making some hybrid rocket version of it - namely extra speed versus gravity deploy.
Being able to make them larger could aid in penetration as well, extra shielding is always a bonus.

Although as >>507965711 just points out, the larger you try to make a speedy fly-boy to deliver such a massive bomb, the higher the chance there is of it being blown out of the sky.

Some people would question the use of nuclear here, but given it'd largely be underground, others would turn their heads away not caring, radioactive leakage would be low even if it was an open gaping crater on the surface.

There's also the chance that the bunkers location is complete bullshit.
"Hey look guys we're totally building a huge bunker here lol"
Turns out the bunker was actually a kilometer away and they actually built several hundred entrances to the bunker all over the place.
One of the best places to build bunkers is under the guise of building something else there.
Building underground aquaduct? Fork off from it and build bunker under it. No cunt would question a bunch of dump trucks filled with rocks, nobody is going to be sitting there counting the trucks and the theoretical max amount of trucks that would be needed based on the distance of the aquaduct and go "hey waaaait a damn minute!! Where's this extra rock coming from boyo??"
Distraction is a key tool here, whether they used it or not is the real question.

>>507965711
they'll drop it into ventilation shaft connected to the reactor

>>507963300

>>507951718
There are still a few F-117s flying, for training or research, but not combat.

>>507965895
>the Iranians are smart enough to have built in deflection countermeasures
Israel anounced the first attack with hours in advance and the iranian's top generals and nuclear scientists were all caught chilling in their homes. And even if they did, the agency that inspected the nuclear facilities had a Mossad operative, so the israelis already know the architecture and everything about the bunker.

>>507966028
Because actual Israeli not the white contractors paid an absurdly retarded amount of money but actual sand nigger Israelis are fucking stupid idk if you noticed but the only thing kikes "invented" besides bullshit science is the modern usury system known as central banking everything else the faggots blatantly steal and take credit for

>>507952930

>>507966028
Israel is a tiny country of 10 million retards that wouldn't exist without the protection and pallets of money that the US gifts them. What makes you think they have the capability to build a stealth bomber?

>>507952162
cope harder josé

>>507957760
>an-raf-officer-inspects-the-hole-left-by-a-22000-lb-deep-penetration-grand-slam-bomb-which-pierced-the-reinforced-concrete-roof-of-the-german-submarine-pens-at-farge-north-of-bremen-germany

>>507966124
show the aftermath

>OOOH IM BOONKERBOOSTING
>IM GONNA UH HH BONKERBOOST
>TRUST THE SCIENSE U COMMUNIST LIBERAL
>NOT BONKERBOOSTING IS BROWN CODED

>>507957760
>>507966753
>Remains_of_a_U-boat_pen_Kiel_Germany_c1945-c1965

>>507957760
>>507966753
>>507966852

>>507957760
> he submarine's little house is called "pen"
>It kind of looks like a farm animal's pen is
Nice

>>507951718
i saw one of these in the wild going into Memphis one time, it was overcast so i only saw it's silhouette. i couldn't believe my eyes.

>>507963300
what REALLY helps is when you're job is to harvest poppies for the CIA and get them to the ratlines in pakistan.

>>507950679 (OP)
It's been used, what do you think was used in the first strike?
B2 flying out of Diego Garcia. The Jews don't have these weapons or delivery system, we do, they got the Intel and we flew a STEALTH bomber over a country with Vietnam era air defense(defenseless)....

>>507952099
>UK is 80% white, meanwhile only 16% of Americans have blue eyes. True mutt race
Britcuck cope

>>507951728
Pipe down you pathetic 65 IQ subhuman shitskin animal
You can't build your own civilization so you come leech off whites

>>507952099
>only 16% of Americans have blue eyes.
I'm one of them so I can tell you about how you are a pathetic 65 IQ subhuman shitksin animal that's beneath me in every conceivable way

>>507951718
The B-2s look cool, SR-71's were pretty cool also.

>>507950679 (OP)

Why can't they throw it out of the back of a cargo plane?

>>507952908
Kikes are controlling Iranian airspace with F-35s, the fuck you mean?

>>507968702
all you need to destroy B-2 is one babushka and a jar

>>507953797
America will be the last white majority country in the west. You are already a minority, you fucking retarded cuck. niggers and muds DOMINATE YOU and you are their BITCH. The saddest part? You actually crave and enjoy it. Little cucked bitch.

>>507966985
It's short for "penis" because of the submarine's shape.

>>507950679 (OP)
Isn't it a stealth bomber? Just do it, if it works claim it, if it doesn't, blame the jews jej
>israeli ordnance is shit bruh

>>507956536
And if it doesn't work you think tey will just give up and stop trying? Are you high on craic?

>>507966136
B61-12 / B61-13 is nothing to scoff at and its not a large weapon by dimensions and weight. Dial it into anything up to around 350kt yield and let her fly.
300kt is no joke.
And you could deliver the thing with most any aircraft you want to fly it in there with
Blame any radioactive mess on a cover story about the Iranian nuclear material you just used it to hi
Say it was a mop weapon if you want.
Wont matter.
What I would do anyway if I were them.
Whats the worst that could happen to Trump for ordering it? Not like he's going to be running for office again.

>>507950679 (OP)

Arent the bunker busters a missile with 3 war heads that meets in an inward cortex for a spiraling effect that pushes the explosions togheter and downwards?


Wtf is that shit you got there.

>>507950679 (OP)
Eh, if it doesn't there's always regular nukes.

The cave men are dead either way.

>>507971594
Nope, just a bigger bomb with a charged shaped explosive far as i'm aware.

Basically a supercharged demolition device, but not conceptually fancy and prone to failure.

>>507971594
Thats for shallow earth and reinforced surface targets. Reinforced concrete up to 5 meters thick.

>>507966824
kek

there is a first for anything
imagine if its a dud, would be hilarious.

Think this wasn't us communicating a message?
https://x.com/US_STRATCOM/status/1934996687052791856

>>507950679 (OP)
Working as a top scientist for a rouge state has to be one of the most fun jobs on the planet desu

>>507952261
The f-15 is the GOAT based on kills. The f22 program cost every American $201 in tax dollars and it's only 2-0 vs Chinese spy balloons. Seriously... The f22 program doesn't have a single kill in combat.

>>507951286
carbon fiber reinforced concrete

>>507972323
If islamists could genuinely comprehend messages this war and its preceding episodes would not have happened.

>>507950679 (OP)
It wont work, but they can try.

t. Father who is ex military officer in IDF

>>507954779
>we
you dumb ooga booga

>>507953011
good point. I think tel aviv is a good target.

>>507972442
They'll hear it one way or another

>>507950969
which? there's multiple entrances and escape routes. besides, the iranians have been preparing for years and have supplies that would last them years

>>507972673
Thats true and why we're going to make nuking great again

>>507951217
>most delusional cope I've seen all day, which is impressive

The US has gotten way more incompetent since the cold war. There's a good chance the tests had a bunch of bureaucracy over it. 50/50 it will function correctly.

>>507953039
>give this homacidal person a loaded gun and take it off then only when they go to shoot at you
That's your logic

>>507950679 (OP)
They might use 4 of these to dig a hole, then use a fifth with a tactical nuke inside. That one will work. And they can blame it on Iran having been building nukes in there, and all the Uranium will make it harder to prove what happened.

The deep underground blast will be totally contained so nobody will give a shit.

>>507950679 (OP)
it will "work" but it won't achieve any objective because non-nuclear earth perpetrators are a fucking meme and even nuclear ones aren't well funded or developed, so those suck too, unless you're R*ssian, but pretty sure even Russia killed all their useful "peaceful" nuclear tools.

>>507950928
The CSIS Director has stated that it might not work.
As in not complete the mission.

>>507972323
>gravity bomb
>modernized
shooting hypersonic rotating detonation engine cruise missiles with nuclear warheads over the horizon are.
I hate this boomer shit so much.

https://www.rtx.com/news/2025/03/04/more-power-no-moving-parts-rotating-detonation-engine

>>507950679 (OP)
Did they test it against a few hundred meters of soil or just a few slabs of concrete?

>>507974685
they test it using a rocket sled and some static barrier. the principles how it works are pretty Newtonian in nature... it's not some secret. obviously reality is very real and there are limits. this bad boy at terminal velocity can probably btfo most normal concrete head on.

>>507974313
you seem like a panicked post middle aged woman the way you're sperging out.
r u ok hun?
get ya some dick and calm tf down.

>>507964777
its actually even simpler than that.
if you make the concrete roof of the bunker irregular shaped, like lets say a slanted roof, it would deflect the penetrator to the side.

>>507971490
>Whats the worst that could happen to Trump for ordering it? Not like he's going to be running for office again.

complete collapse of the country
THAT is how unpopular idiotic action for jews sociopathic unilateral attack on Iran to force a war to drag us in

>>507951718
Will get shoot down. Guaranteed. You have no idea the tech China has.

>>507968702
kek

>>507950679 (OP)
2 B-2's doing it one after the other will do the job.
Apparently its 70-90 meters below the surface, so 2 bunker busters will get the job done.
I fucking hate the kikes and amerimutts for doing this.
All it is going to do is create massive distrust and unrest for a decade.

>>507951728
Absolute mogging.

>>507952210
Kill yourself like your elders, zogbot.

>>507951257
>MOI (massive ordinance incendiary)
aka the Flaming Moe.

>>507950885
>>507951286
There is no such thing as "new high-tech concrete". He's a retard. Concrete is often referred to as reinforced when it contains rebar (which is literally a portmanteau of reinforcement bar). This is because while concrete has a very high compressive strength, it has a very low tensile strength. But rebar isn't going to do shit. The strength of concrete in general also depends on the aggregate used (fine or coarse, etc.) but again this isn't going to make a difference.

>>507954072
>>507972441
Retarded and gay

It may be possible to create an "armoured" concrete, in the same way that certain metal security objects like locks are designed to be extra hard: they are fitted with hardened steel ball bearings or pins in strategic places to prevent drilling. Perhaps it is theoretically possible to create a concrete that uses an aggregate made up of extremely hardened material, but it's not clear to me that this would make the whole thing hardened, and in any case it would be ridiculously expensive. You might as well just stick massive plates of steel over the concrete at that point.

The problem with Fordo is that it isn't actually very deep. 90m is nothing. The Stargate NORAD Cheyenne Mountain complex, for instance, is something like 600m under the mountain.

>>507950679 (OP)
I hope the bomber gets shot down during the mission.

>>507950679 (OP)
Thats sure a tallboy

>>507950885
Meh just blow up the entrances

>>507950679 (OP)
Why don't they enter through the front door with a small team.

>can only be carried by a b-2
Don't think so

>>507985960
Because Iran is already evacuating their entire nuclear arsenal to Pakistan.

>>507967365
Christan bale is British and Harrison is a yid, no idea who the whore is

>>507950679 (OP)
I want to see a hundred of these dropped directly onto temple mount. I also want multiple nuclear ordinances dropped directly onto the area in order so that the site be rendered irradiated for centuries. I want all vestiges of the "holy land" be decimated in such a way as to make the land appear as even more hellish and horrible than it already is. Make israel look like an oblivion gate, right now.

>>507951286
100 - 1000 times stronger than civilian cuckcrete

>>507987084
Don't reply to me memeflag coward

>>507984926
im betting they are planning on it