Are national socialism and fascism the same thing? - /pol/ (#507971979) [Archived: 987 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: l7CwrNsVGermany
6/19/2025, 1:54:04 PM No.507971979
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Most people have such a low IQ that they can't distinguish between. NS is focused on the idea of the “people’s community”(Volksgemeinschaft) and race thinking, while Fascism is focused more on the power of the state. Fascism aims for a capitalist economy, which is different from NS. There are also big differences when it came to the treatment of Jews. For example back then Italian Fascism did not have race laws until 1938 and Jews could hold high positions in the fascist movement. There were some similarities in political style, like uniforms, big parades and a leader cult. The idea that Fascism and NS were the same came mostly from bolshewiks and left-wing idiots. But the reality is, NS aren't a fan of fascism. Leftists call NS "Fascism' to make sure the word “Socialism,” which they used for themselves, wasn't connected to NS. Fascism was a broad and mixed movement, with different forms in many countries. From Finnish farmers groups to Peronism in Argentina. NS however had a very clear worldview focused on race and the people’s community.
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Anonymous ID: Hs6LiBQF
6/19/2025, 1:55:50 PM No.507972109
>>507971979 (OP)
NS is just fascism. It did not exist until Hitler was introduced to Italian fascism.
Anonymous ID: rhj/vjT/United States
6/19/2025, 1:56:15 PM No.507972143
I'll give them my Volksgemeinschaft
Anonymous ID: /4EQ9ZY8Germany
6/19/2025, 1:56:17 PM No.507972145
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>>507971979 (OP)
>Are national socialism and fascism the same thing?
>FASCISM DEFINED | The Difference between Fascism and National Socialism
>https://youtu.be/qdY_IMZH2Ko
Anonymous ID: 06d3+u/OIreland
6/19/2025, 1:57:42 PM No.507972254
>look at my ass, this is where the cock goes

Degeneracy is too normalized.
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Anonymous ID: Bek0fgmkUnited States
6/19/2025, 1:59:54 PM No.507972411
>>507971979 (OP)
You are a low IQ brown teenager. National Socialism and Fascism are just the same thing. The latter adopted any of the formers new advancements, laws, etc.
Anonymous ID: XXKj+hkuNew Zealand
6/19/2025, 2:01:22 PM No.507972523
>>507972254
Major reason I can't take lots of people seriously.
Half the window lickers out there would call them conservatives because they're wearing jeans and don't have onlyfans accounts.
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Anonymous ID: 8aFe/Q3+
6/19/2025, 2:01:47 PM No.507972541
>>507971979 (OP)
>BBBRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP
Anonymous ID: sA11H4zHCanada
6/19/2025, 2:02:46 PM No.507972617
I'm calling the one on the right
Anonymous ID: 3V2nYkDYGermany
6/19/2025, 2:02:49 PM No.507972619
>>507971979 (OP)
no they arent
NatSoc is an economic left-wing and policy right-wing ideology
thats why its called the 3rd way
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Anonymous ID: gM1ox8cIArgentina
6/19/2025, 2:07:40 PM No.507972919
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>>507971979 (OP)
>Peronism in Argentina
damn, it's rare to find someone who understands that peronism was fascist and not communist
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Anonymous ID: +JOfsRpAGreece
6/19/2025, 2:08:27 PM No.507972968
>>507971979 (OP)
Right. However what happens to applied, and not ideal, NS? Doesn't it also get subordinated to the state and the interests of the state?
Anonymous ID: WpyeySYOUnited States
6/19/2025, 2:23:44 PM No.507973987
>>507971979 (OP)
Basically, fascism = people for the state and national socialism = the state for people.
Most nations also have a pretty strong ethnic identity since that's the literal definition of a nation. It's also pretty difficult for any populist movement not to get caught up in racialism whether intentional or otherwise so I don't think it's fair to act like only national socialism has a focus on race although it is fair to say that race is at the core of national socialism.
Anonymous ID: t9eBSXRUArgentina
6/19/2025, 2:30:08 PM No.507974390
>>507972919
Quite impressive... What could've been if our elites hadn't gone full retarded and bombed their own people.
Anonymous ID: MbeSL8SBSwitzerland
6/19/2025, 2:31:06 PM No.507974470
>>507971979 (OP)
>Are national socialism and fascism the same thing?
no.
italian fascism is fully idealistic, german national socialism is partially materialistic.
Anonymous ID: 2znYv4hwSlovenia
6/19/2025, 2:37:08 PM No.507974862
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>>507971979 (OP)
Anonymous ID: 1nfZxbEJUnited States
6/19/2025, 2:38:41 PM No.507974976
stop getting obsessed with definitions
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Anonymous ID: FHt0lTcLNetherlands
6/19/2025, 2:44:57 PM No.507975399
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>>507971979 (OP)
ns is racial, fascism is for brown people and mutts.

>>507972619
phenomenally wrong. while the state has the last word 90+% of peacetime industry was freemarket
Anonymous ID: FHt0lTcLNetherlands
6/19/2025, 2:45:45 PM No.507975453
>>507974976
wise words
Anonymous ID: TN8YBsbRUnited States
6/19/2025, 2:47:22 PM No.507975552
>>507971979 (OP)
National Socialism is what the Germans did from 1933-1945, Fascism is what the Italians did around that time. Two different systems, some similarities. Leftists are retarded to use the two interchangeably. We definitely don't have Nazism because that would be a perfect system that leftists would actually love. We don't have Fascism because this ain't fuckin Italy and there's no grand council and our country doesn't resemble a fascist one at all. What they don't want to admit is that they just don't like their opponents getting their way. They take power and want to turn totalitarian immediately but so long as it's not "racist" it's ok.
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Anonymous ID: VUTTA3AlUnited States
6/19/2025, 2:47:43 PM No.507975570
>>507971979 (OP)
Fascism is basically whatever they say it is at this point. There is no consensus on fascist states, they're all different, and their only defining features are being authoritarian dictatorships with other features.
If you wanted to call the Stalinist USSR fascist, you wouldn't be far off the mark.
If you wanted to call Mao's China or present day China, or North Korea fascist, it's basically accurate.
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Anonymous ID: TN8YBsbRUnited States
6/19/2025, 2:48:52 PM No.507975643
>>507971979 (OP)
Prime breeding material. We're definitely supposed to impregnate those. Every single one of those sluts should have a baby in them.
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Anonymous ID: TN8YBsbRUnited States
6/19/2025, 2:51:41 PM No.507975832
>>507975570
The negative connotation they want you to associate those words with is totalitarianism. But leftists will never say Trump is a totalitarian because they themselves know they want a totalitarian regime, just one that does what they want. They LIKE authoritarianism, imposing rules on others so no one can have racist opinions. Because that alone is enough reason to break from anarchy and become a totalitarian regime, to prevent racism. The most evil thing of all. Such a joke.
Anonymous ID: Ujp0a2pPBulgaria
6/19/2025, 2:54:28 PM No.507976035
>>507971979 (OP)

The commies in Bulgaria are still calling Hitler "a fascist" and are claiming that "Our Russian brothers liberated us from the fascist rule, otherwise you'd be called Hans". I am not THAT much into National Socialism myself, but Fascism isn't antisemitic enough for my taste either. I am stuck in a limbo between the two ideologies, but don't get me wrong - I wouldn't mind either of them to become reality in Bulgaria and Europe as a whole.
Anonymous ID: tpBnq1sWSan Marino
6/19/2025, 2:56:37 PM No.507976206
>>507971979 (OP)
Yes
Anonymous ID: ZX2dL/+eBrazil
6/19/2025, 2:58:30 PM No.507976367
>>507971979 (OP)
Way too young to be showing their asses like this
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Anonymous ID: Ifba2qOsUnited States
6/19/2025, 2:59:30 PM No.507976448
>>507975643
No, they're not. Imagine how fucking horrible those girls would be as moms. These are the female equivalent to white trash wiggers. Any girl who thinks their booty is something they should display to the world is a pervert, probably drug addicted, almost certainly votes liberal, probably listens to rap music. Absolutely disgusting shit tier subhumans. Also note that all of them have bronze skin from obsessive tanning. These girls see Kim Kardashian as their inspiration.
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Anonymous ID: E6Tsku7mUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:00:18 PM No.507976511
>>507976367
They wouldn't be showing their asses if they were married to the arranged suitors that their fathers chose.
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Anonymous ID: 6SbYPc1SUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:02:11 PM No.507976679
>>507972523
Women in jeans are crossdressing faggots.
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Anonymous ID: QvDDI7WT
6/19/2025, 3:02:33 PM No.507976712
>>507975643
>Prime breeding material
For BBC
Anonymous ID: zb+dGSInUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:05:07 PM No.507976926
>>507971979 (OP)
The Fascist manifesto calls for women voting.
>"Kinder, Küche, Kirche"
The National Socialists encourage women to be in the home as mothers. That's all I needed to know.
Anonymous ID: ZX2dL/+eBrazil
6/19/2025, 3:06:08 PM No.507977003
>>507976511
That is some jeet shit
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Anonymous ID: mGLp9rzWUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:06:13 PM No.507977010
>>507976448
Imagine how tiny your dick would have to be to make this post unironically
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Anonymous ID: givi6eV0Ireland
6/19/2025, 3:09:49 PM No.507977300
>>507971979 (OP)
National Socialism is a subset of Fascism. Traditional Italian Fascism didn't concern itself with ethnic and racial groups. NS is a germanic only ideology, for example Italians or Sub-saharans could never apply NS to themselves since they're not Aryan. Its also because germanic people are incredibly hardworking and efficient genetically.
Anonymous ID: zb+dGSInUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:10:00 PM No.507977313
>>507976679
This. Seeing a woman wearing pants makes me sick. Just like seeing a woman riding a motorcycle or driving a truck. She may as well be spitting and cursing like a bull-dyke no matter how "hot" she appears.

Conversely, seeing a woman dressed modestly in a skirt fills my heart with a joy that cannot be expressed into words, not just for her but for the race in general.
Anonymous ID: nGxmiXrnUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:10:39 PM No.507977379
>>507971979 (OP)
Those fatty's were considered fat when I was 16.
Anonymous ID: E6Tsku7mUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:12:54 PM No.507977564
>>507977003
Ok, favelachimp.
Anonymous ID: Ifba2qOsUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:13:12 PM No.507977587
>>507977010
Shut the fuck up you fucking pussy. Women have ruined our country. We now are entering a world where we have women commanding in the armed forces. Women lieutenants, women generals, women presidents, women police chiefs, women mayors. Shut the fuck up you feminist fucking cunt.
Anonymous ID: zb+dGSInUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:13:33 PM No.507977610
>>507977010
Imagine how hooked your nose would have to be to make this post unironically
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Anonymous ID: ImGeeRBrUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:13:40 PM No.507977621
>>507971979 (OP)
>these are prepubescent babies according to left wingers
Anonymous ID: kVbvNLRYCanada
6/19/2025, 3:13:53 PM No.507977639
>>507971979 (OP)
They look 40.
Anonymous ID: mGLp9rzWUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:14:46 PM No.507977715
>>507977610
>hates white girls
>calls ME the kike
Lmao
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Anonymous ID: zb+dGSInUnited States
6/19/2025, 3:23:06 PM No.507978383
>>507977715
Because you ARE the kike, kike. Stupid fucking simp.
Anonymous ID: 7SbMnGL2United States
6/19/2025, 3:23:51 PM No.507978441
>>507971979 (OP)
Why are they all so fat?
Anonymous ID: zrrZR8NlUnited Kingdom
6/19/2025, 3:24:12 PM No.507978470
>>507975552
at some point the germans switched from NatSoc to Nazism, which was neither natsoc nor fascism but something different.
Anonymous ID: y31QLpgKAustralia
6/19/2025, 3:29:15 PM No.507978902
>>507971979 (OP)
If they were the same thing there wouldn’t be two different words
Anonymous ID: UmkwF7E8
6/19/2025, 3:43:15 PM No.507980083
>>507971979 (OP)
You're mostly correct, but both nazism and fascism involved corporatist economics. Capitalism with heavy state regulation for the state and people's benefit.

If you also look at people who identify as nazis or fascists these days most of them will say and believe in the same things. If they don't even make proper distinctions, why would anyone else?