Thread 507981896

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TriASB-F5UY

Weapons expert explains how Iranian engineering will defeat the 30,000lb beast that Trump and Israle is pinning all their hopes on.

So bunker busters are more fraudulent jewish science too?

>>507981896 (OP)
They already used Bunker Busters/MOAB/B-2s/MOPs whatever in Afghanistan and they didn't work as they couldn't penetrate the granite of the mountains. These useless things cost 2.13 billion each.

>>507982161
Yes.

>>507981896 (OP)
>bro, it turns how you can't just drop a bomb and blow something up that is 30 stories deep inside of a mountain
No way.

>>507981896 (OP)
Honestly this Postal guy seems like a retard.
The waffle he had about the Oreshnik IRBM was dumb as shit.
Professor my 'hole.

>>507981896 (OP)
> We have no idea where the tunnel is
You don't know that. There's tons of ground penetrating radar shit. I don't know what there is, but I wouldn't be so sure we don't know where the tunnels are.

There's also good olde spies.

>>507982654
Maybe, he seems right here tho

>>507981896 (OP)
So time for nukes?
It will unlock a new weapon in Ukrainian conflict which become quite boring desu

>>507982373
the moab isn't even a bunker buster, retard. it's a psychological weapon that's only purpose is to make a huge fucking boom. it is a waste of money though

>>507981896 (OP)
okay so why are you worried about it then

>>507981896 (OP)
So boots on the ground?

>>507982161
fafo

>>507981896 (OP)
only nuking the area or boots on the ground are your options

>>507982373
>These useless things cost 2.13 billion each.
/pol/ is so fucking stupid sometimes

>>507982161
We used them during Iraqi freedom. They are talking about some new bigger bomb that hasn’t been tested yet

>>507983654
Nooks won't work either. You'd need consecutive repeat hits in the same spot to turn billions of tons of earth into molten slag and maybe bake them alive or trap them in their bunkers if you're lucky.

>>507983654
A nuclear bunker buster blown up underground. People would piss and moan that muh nuclear, but it wouldn't have any of the humanitarian justification around it. And they could say that the Iranians had nukes underground that just happened to go off when bombed conventionally. The low yeild would support that claim since being set off that way would probably break them and ruin their yeild

>>507984280
Replace the 5000 lbs of conventional explosives with a nook.

Blow it up underground

>>507981896 (OP)
Iran's propaganda seems a bit too terrified of puttibg this to the test kek, it will likely work just fine.

And if not just follow it up with a nuke, there's really no wrong answers for Israel in this scenario.

>>507984280
True, but what about radiation after the blast? that in itself could be enough.

>>507983736
No one mentioned MOABs you deranged faggot

>>507984404
Negro I just told you. The mushroom cloud of a nuclear blast is the force of the explosion bouncing off the earth. As in, deflected. The earth is so big and badass it bounces nuclear blasts like quarters off a strippers ass. There is nothing man made that can pierce that deep underground.

>>507984280
That's literally what a single ground blast nuke does though, to say nothing of the earthquakes.

>>507981896 (OP)
It’s a trap to get a ground invasion, Israel was always planning this

>>507984666
No mushroom cloud, no radiation. It goes off 200 feet underground.

>>507982161
No, they work. The problem is Iran took notes when they were used on Iraq and built all their shot deep enough in solid granite to make them useless.

>>507984666
That's the dust and air though, while it does indeed take the path of least resistance it also reverberates upon itself, hence the quakes it causes.

That alone could be enough to turn those bunkers into suffocated tombs.

they will need to use tactical nuke if buster wont work

anyways it's trivial now the nuclear program is trivial becaues they are at war. iran will keep launching missiles to israel and eventually hit their powerp lants etc

trump is wasting time he's slow to act

>>507984712
there have been plenty of nuke tests in history and I sure don't remember them blowing a 300ft deep hole in the dirt, never mind mountain rock.

>>507984773
Why not just salt the earth so to speak on top of the site so no one can go in or out?

>>507982161
Yes. They are another jewish scam

>>507984982
Then you haven't been paying a lot of attention to the ground blast tests.

Most tests were air blast so i get where you're coming from, no worries.

>>507984747
my cope is zognald is using this as a pretext to say we'll bomb it and kikes on the ground go in after, and because they're natural born cowards they'll reject the plan and zognald can save face

>>507984712
Our bunkers are have been equipped with shock absorbers since the 60's, we have to assume Iran has them as well.
>>507984764
That's even worse because it would form a reverse shaped charge funneling all the energy upwards.

>>507985061
How do you think you’ll do that? A nuke? Chemical weapon? Biological?

>>507985180
All that energy can't come out a tiny pinprick

>>507985180
Shock absorbers aren't designed for direct hits, trying to build something resistant to that is futile.

A friend of mine's family has their own nuclear bunker, the tech is nice but the purpose is to survive if a nuke hitself elsewhere.

If it's on top of you you're dead no matter what.

>>507984280
>write that down! Write that down!

>>507981896 (OP)
jews know this but still want Zion Don to go through with it anyway because he'll take any excuse to drag the US into war.
congrats to all the dumbass right wing npcs of /pol/ that spent 10 years cucking for zion don.

I love how everyone is fucking expert on this shit now. The US military is the strongest, most reliable fighting force in the world by far. The technology these idiots are referencing is from years ago. It takes a World War to expose the tech we actually have. It’s been 70 years and you’re only allowed to see what we allow you to see.
Meanwhile John, Jim and Jan think they have the answers.
KEK.

>>507981896 (OP)
BOOTS ON THE GROUND HERE WE GO

>>507985302
Under the right circumstances it can, see CERN.

Not very relevant for non-controlled settings but you're not technically correct.

>>507985488
We've been able to ruin mountains since before the advent of dynamite and even gunpowder, it's pretty clear that pretending it won't work is cope from the types that have seen almost all of their heroes die recently already.

>>507985488
>strongest army in the world
>lost to a bunch of goatfucker cunnychads in flip flops with outdated soviet ak-47s
lol. lmao even.

>>507984637
polish subhuman doesn't know how to scroll up

>>507981896 (OP)
>The US military somehow doesn't know the capabilities of their own weapons
doubt.

>>507985488
US lost a war against Somalia. You're in no position to lecture anyone about anything, faggot.

>>507985119
Ground blasts are no better, the vast majority of energy is going to deflect and take the least resistant path. In terms of testing, only the Sedan crater is deep enough and it was from an detonation 192m underground.

There's interesting details on nuke digging on this page if anyone wants to read: https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Library/Effects/UndergroundEffects.html

>>507985697
It's a Pole, he definitely knows how to, he's just too lazy.
Poles aren't stupid goatfuckers.

>>507985359
If I remember correctly, Cheyenne mountain complex is supposed to be able to withstand multiple direct hits due to its depth and location beneath the mountain. Iran's are also beneath mountains and probably built similarly. These aren't fallout bunkers, they're fortresses built for a nuclear battlefield.

>>507985789
I wonder what cope a toothpaste nigger like you will come up with in response to >>507985750

>>507985359
If it weren't for spies, they could make it look like it was 300ft underground but just put it 10ft underground. Then the bombs dig 200ft and blow up harmlessly leaving a small hole in the roof.

>>507985750
> i bomb u

ok retarc

>>507985789
from what i've seen polish people are no different than nigger trash. i've never seen a good post made by these subhumans

>>507985180
I thought nuclear tests were often done underground and nothing comes out. There's a big spherical cavern underground afterwards though

>>507985750
Interesting, but you do realise this is just the Anglo stuff right?
Ruskies blew some pretty holes into the ground, though admittedly i am not someone that's interested enough to keep notes on these sorts of things.

>>507985744
You’re talking about a street fight against 1% of our force. Cope. You want an actual war? Melt.

>>507985488
lmao orange kike just lost multiple F35s and tucked tail to run away from literal ragheads living in rubble in yemen you stupid nigger

>>507985750
That's a really interesting infographic, thanks for that

>>507985690
Keep thinking like a woman, Muhammad.

>>507986268
>It was real in my mind

>>507985810
Those are some assumptions, especially in light of what sort of nukes exist nowadays.

From what i've seen from the think tanks advising US policy all defenses against a nuclear blast are theirstically functional at best, including the US's own.
If Iran has replicated those they might give an unintentional proof-of-concept demonstration for the Americans, one that is expected to fail.

>>507985883
See above, digging caves has always been a favourite cope but it is little more than a mix between a last resort and self-entrapment.

>>507982373
what do you mean? It completely disintegrated Bin Laden's famous underground mountain citadel

>>507986032
Go to Poland, some are like that but most are decent, if you're not the type to be vulnerable to bullshit claims anyhow.

>>507981896 (OP)
their job is to convince the US to help israel in a war, otherwise they would give them to IDF, so they work

you retards dont think the bomb got any better since 2004?

Directed energy weapon
Bunkers are just big microwaves when the switch is flipped.

>>507985488
>It takes a World War to expose the tech we actually have.
Our military budget gets bigger and bigger as our military keeps getting smaller and shittier. I can understand why you would need to believe in x planes, tictac spaceships and skynet killer robots to keep from facing the reality we're being quietly plundered like a conquered third world nation.

>>507986644
If earth is good for anything it is absorbing heat.
No the force is much more important.

>>507986372
kek look at this cope. it was a month ago faggot everyone knows what happened

>>507981896 (OP)
Is that good MIT or DEI MIT

>>507985180
>>507985302
lmao right the fragments will shoot out like a bullet from a rifled barrel
Iam wondering why noone is talking about over-penning either a through shot does nothing. And then you have no idea how they complex is laid out and only a few dozen gbu.
yeah good luck

>>507986850
>The Houthis blew up half the US air force, sank 4 carriers and made us run away!
Retard.

>>507986704
Childlike understanding.

>>507986962
It's the pro-Palestine cope force, do you really have to ask?
Besides the amount of propaganda being spread meant to prevent this from being tested speaks volumes.

>>507986406
>Those are some assumptions, especially in light of what sort of nukes exist nowadays.
We don't have the big ones though, russia does. Which is why those complexes are no longer in service. Our defense strategy now is just not fighting russia, ever. But you won't hear anyone ever admit that openly.

>>507981896 (OP)

Should've spent more money on space for orbital bombardment.

>>507987152
Hmm, maybe.
I have my doubts about Russian secret-keeping capacities, plus i know the french just nicked the Russian tech decades ago so i assumed you lot had it too.

>>507981896 (OP)
if you don't assume there's classified weapons they already have that can penetrate that deep you're being an idiot
this is just some psyop shit designed to make them lower their guard, and don't even forget the fact that the MOAB developed decades ago exists and something classified with tripple the strength likely exists too that can straight up just blow the top off of any mountain

>>507987023
>He says unironically as the leadership of the free world struggles like chimps trying to fuck a football to solve the issue of attacking mountain bunkers
Might as well skip all the steps and go right to acceptance with some dignity left.

>Nukes aren't real
>Bunker busters aren't real
What's next?

>>507987475
Bombs aren't real, it's just smoke and mirrors.

>>507987475
>Iran wasn't real
Kek

>>507981896 (OP)
I domt understand why other countries can have nukes, but iran cant? What are they gonna do about North Korea if they start on making nukes?

>>507987475
>Nothing the US military possesses has any effect on our glorious tinpot shithole meanwhile we can defeat anything you have through the power of poverty and LARP!

>>507985488
>Defeated by sandmonkeys and rice farmers
And now it's your turn to argue that you didn't lose in spite of the fact that you pulled out of the region without accomplishing your military objectives.
After all, a lot of sandniggers and zipper heads are dead, that has to count for something.

>>507987275
Its not a secret. They very loudly and openly brag about their delivery systems and size of their warheads every day. Our nuclear arsenal is much smaller, with smaller warheads that were built around the idea of precision decapitation strikes over total destruction a long time ago. Russia built theirs on the principle of 'fuck the entire planet.'

Why are we talking bunker busters?

2 weeks ago nobody in the US was thinking about Iran. Years and years people deny ZOG being a thing... Iran should not even be in our discussion right now. The only discussion to be had is how the fuck israel, a foreign country, can start a war, and then we are somehow locked in to joining them.

zero congressional approval. letting a wanted war criminal dictate US policy? What the fuck is even happening? We had years of Trump Russia hoax, and no proof. Here you have 1000% proof and you can go back to the first admin...

Jared Kushner is close friends with netenyahu. They bloviate about "russia' for years while these "jews" are actively dictating US policy. Enough.

>>507987609
That's an issue for North Korea's neighbors desu.

But honestly this is like going
>"You're killing this one mad dog, what are you going to about all other mad dogs then huh!?"
Every reduction of the amount of mad dogs is fine, and islamic dogs tend to be more prone to madness than even communists and i can understand.

Plus Iran is on its ass already, it's simply easier than with Notth Korea right now.

>>507987609
can't have the goyim on equal footing then we would be in control would we

>>507981896 (OP)
are browns coming here pretending to be an expert on anything?

>>507983914
Boots on the ground is the only way.
Hahahahahahaha poor fuckers

>>507982373
USAF paid 28 million for 8 of them + support equipment.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110413164651/http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/04/08/usaf-getting-more-penetrating-power/

>>507987861
Sounds like you fell for your own propaganda there, you've got 12 here that certainly do not resemble anything close to that intention.

The priorities for them are as follows:
1. Get to intended destination
2. Fuck everything up

That's the entire list, don't yiu remember your own generals admitting some years ago that the moral part of war is always theatre?

>>507987609
because it's not about nukes, who says they even have any. this is all iraq WMDs again.

>>507981896 (OP)
no kidding, it's a mountain with a lot of concrete for reinforcement. who knows what's underneath, but it's also irrelevant. afghanistan wars showed you can't just hit mountains from the air and expect to win. the mountain wins. US gov is stuck, they can't use bunker busters since there's a high chance it fails, so in that case they're in the war and have already failed their goal, so what's next, ground invasion? no way, the left will protest and half of the right will join them.

>>507981896 (OP)
I said this days ago. Retards are wasting their time.

>>507981896 (OP)
it's ok, if they won't work trump will just put some boots on the ground to save face

They could use a neutron bomb but the last one was disassembled in 96

Why are there 5 threads about bunker busters ? Who cares ? You dont need those to kill a bunch of people.

>>507988498
Bullshit, you have at least one in stock here.

Yeah if they don't work, just use a tactical nuke

>>507988618
How about we just skip the whole thing instead?

ALL HAIL THE SIGN!!

>>507988188
>Sounds like you fell for your own propaganda there
What propaganda? We're talking about nuclear weapons, what did you suppose I meant by precision? Its the opposite of saturation, which is russia's doctrine. Population centers are still tertiary targets for both sides.

LOL, LMAO EVEN

>>507988618
what about go fuck yourself and die samson the world i dont give a shit

>>507988895

The housing/affordability crisis that's crushing the West is part of this as well. Poor desperate men will sign up just for the money and some semblance of purpose.

Sign tappers don't miss

I don't know if I believe this. US Tech is pretty good.
BUT I will say that it won't be easy. Persians are not Afghan goat herders. They have plenty of extremely intelligent, cunning people on their side.
I think MIGAbrains think Iran is like Afghanistan and they can just blow up some caves like they did with that MOAB

>>507984637
>can't read
>can't scroll
>can't click posts the person is replying to
First day of being conscripted eh Moshe? I'm just kidding you polocks are notorious retards.

>>507984280
I mean cant we just fire like 200 cruise missiles or 500 2000 lb jdams in the same spot? Eventually your gonna crunch up all the rock and its gonna open a hole as material is blown out of it right? The us has practically unlimited munitions.

Are they still dropping today or were those leaks fake

>>507989095
>I don't know if I believe this. US Tech is pretty good.
It is good. And the bunker buster is an incredible feat of engineering - but it can only dig so far. The air force tested a theory to tackle this exact problem by trying to drop consecutive drill bombs on the same target over and over again but any slight variation in the impact fucks the whole thing up and they were never able to achieve the depth they wanted. It's just too deep.

>>507988966
I don't know how to tell you this but the only ones ever stupid enough to fall for the precision meme are our liberals and the Israelis.

You are literally the exact same as Russia in this regard, don't fool yourself.

>>507989039
we are ruled by crazy ass zionist supremacist so yes but to little to late even all the false flags they are plannng humpty dumpty is not gonna be put together, but keep warning the midwits to deprive them of white goymeat none the less

>>507982373
Why won't they just make a drill bomb?

>>507988498
What do you think that would do?

>>507989203
>The us has practically unlimited munitions.
>for Israel
MIGA!

>>507989250
I presume that the leaks were fake and i expect more such fakes from both sides.

>>507989472
That's what it is

>>507989556
For any non-chanceless project really, it's kinda their thing.

>>507989680
how very nice of them

>>507981896 (OP)

They aren't pinning their hopes on it. You fucking retarded autistic idiot.

You hit vents and shafts with it what happens. Logic not stupid. You hit it a few times and you're causing cave ins. There are a lot of entries. You can do some damage while full lidar sweeps by Sat and Drone of points to cause relative penetration.

Regardless you can always send in spec ops when the area is virtually clear of any surface.

Hopes? No. They're Iranian hopes.

>>507988618
>start a war against a country because muh wmds
>no proof they have them
>use your own wmd on them
>
>are we the bad guys?

>>507987338
Funny you should mention this, because this is exactly what I believe they are going to do. Trump is going to Zap them like we did to the Norks at Ryanggang in 2005. He can't shut the fuck up about "muh superweapon", and they certainly aren't going to drop a B-61 Mod 13 on it. A collimated beam of bound state positronium will certainly ruin their day.

>>507983877
because then iran will start attacking american bases and any other american target they can find idiot

>>507989527
If it was attached to a 30,000lb projectile it would penatrate deep enough then explode. The neutrons would penatrate even deeper. It would cause neutron activation in the steel reinforced concrete making it radioactive. It would possibly cause fission in the warheads in the bunker if they were not shielded properly.

>>507981896 (OP)
Paddy I don't know if you've noticed but Israel always says they're trying to bomb something deep underground as a pretext for carpet bombing

>>507989203
Every time you bomb it, more rock from the walls falls into the hole, cushioning the next impact, and it's a fuckin mountain, so there's a lot of wall.
At that point you are trying to remove rock by melting and vaporizing it, so just use a nuke, if anything multiple nukes.

>>507989680
dude they are ittry controlled by Israel aka crazy ass jews very openly at this point the last wars in the ME were also fought for Israe

>>507982654
A shocking amount of academics make their whole career by bullshitting. Nobody will pay you to share an unpopular opinion no matter how brilliant it is, so they learn to pander for funding or fuck off from academia and get a real job.

"Military experts" are notoriously full of fraudsters selling lies for profit. If you're actually an expert with expertise worth a damn, you're directly in the employ of a national military apparatus and your expertise is confidential. Otherwise, who's paying you? If you follow the money you'll find it's coming from a group interested in influencing your country's foreign policy by misleading the voting public, whether that's a lobby group in your country that's opposed to a foreign policy position, or whether that's a foreign adversary that's just opposed to the continued existence and prosperity of your nation period.

If their expertise is publicly available, it's because it isn't valuable enough to be confidential.

>>507989875
those Epstein tapes are really paying off ey

>>507990006
>fission in the warheads in the bunker
they don't have warheads dummy.

Just drop some shaniquas those can bust anything

>>507989670
No bro just put diamond drill at the end and drill the granite, no biggie

>>507990086
or you know you can listen to reason and logic and then come up if they are bullshitting or not like a rational non retarded person or is that to much to ask

Why does US care so much about Iran having a nuke? Everyone has them now.

>>507990086
the guy is old, he no longer works with the gov.
nigger just read his wikipedia

>>507989817
Funny how it's all these dubiously attributable quotes that target Israel, while Israel's enemies do the shit in practice.
Almost as if it's a distraction.

>>507990043
Right, the rabid sandniggers had nothing to do with it.
No i can respect disliking both sides but i cannot respect liking islam and pretending they are not the issue.
Even the cope about how they are "just" Israel's weapon is retarded as supposedly disarming Israel by destroying them is evidently something everyone shoukd approve of.

>>507990496
they are here because Jews imported them here thats a fact repacement migration

>>507990362
Eh, the "experts" are rightly mocked because their primary purpose is pretty much to spam and entrap potential dissidents in pointless rhetorical excercises.

So yes that's too much to ask actually, it's precisely how the woke initially "won" by just miring everybody in faux-authoritative bullshit.

>>507990496
We dont own israel anything our eaders are just backmailed by them Epstein aso proofed that

If the enemy is aware of what you might use it will never fully work by default if you are actively counting it in.

All these twitter drill wars make it seem like lots is just staged. The suffering is real for sure, but its weird how things play out. Maybe theres a hidden war going on beyond our comprehension. Certain things are the way they are. The idea of deterrence is important, and keeping morality high. But they make it seem like war hs some sort of board game for the elite

>>507990632
Cool so let's destroy this "jewish weapon" then and kill all these faggoty muslims; it's a solution that bypasses the need for your claims or mine to be true since we agree the muslims are bad, if you are not being dishonest.

>>507990733
Okey so you are retarded and can come up with sound logical conclusions thats a you problem

>>507989882

Did you get dropped on your head? What happens explain to an idiot.

When you choke off a mountain facility. Buried alive? You've cleared the surface. You've hit any entrances and exits and the entire surface. You've used lidar on anything that can be penetrated. Explain what happens as you're dropping oridances.

Meanwhile on entry, wad, you've blitzed any surface radius of military.

What happens? Dig what. Vents have failed. Water is failing apart from any reserves. Trapped. On that surface you wait for a rat to dig, and repeated. Maybe in a year you get creative and fly a drill in.

They've turned feral.

>>507990817
We are not giving them anything or owing them anything, we are helping them destroy a mutual enemy.

>>507990016
nuking a county because i tries to get some slowclap

>>507990910

Entry war

>>507981896 (OP)
>claim 600 meter, nigger what ?
Yea, ok buddy

>>507990910
Nice pretense man, great way to distract.

>>507984182
they have like 30 of them, maybe it's not 2 billion but it's in the hundred of millions.

>>507991060
They're gravity bombs, even with all the research they are likely cheaper than the self-propelled missiles.

>>507981896 (OP)
I sure hope Israel has a few military brigades they can send into that area.
Looks like you'll have to do it on foot.

>>507981896 (OP)
We have some bunker busters that will work with an absolute certainty.
Obviously you've never seen how the United States military can literally blast the desert floor into the air.
They call it shock and awe for a reason.

>>507990874
what about no and dont get involved with crzy ass supramicist jewsih led wars so they (jewish NGOs primarly) can import the mudshits to europe? i know i know crazy right

>>507984982
Theres 16384783847+ stars in the universe or something lets talk about alien life forms and all the million year old testing. Somehow were here but we're all just labtube rats in a sense, must be right.

with these big ass bombs lifes becoming a game of worms only with more pain on suffering attached

why dont we all focus on existentiel questions more and build huge structures to amplify the essence of thinking and thought. Whsts the point of fighting eachother

>>507987807
Scared little leaf. “Your military’s objectives” fucking dork. Anyone can say anything about past wars and why they were shit. However you cannot deny the fact we possess more firepower and strength than any country by leaps and bounds. If you really want the balls, you’re gonna have to at least come rattle the cage. But you won’t touch our ground. You won’t do a goddamn thing. We have 70 years of tech just waiting to deployed on the first person to come step.
Will you PLEASE join the EU so we can do an Ukraine to your country?

>>507990937
kek Just blood weapons and money like the last 30 years we fought their wars Iran is not our enemy they are Israes enemy fuck em

>>507990006
>It would possibly cause fission in the warheads in the bunker if they were not shielded properly.
Warheads are shielded by built in neutron reflectors for enhancing their own reaction.

>>507991202
Am i back in 2003? you Neocons had the exact same arguments which were a fucking lies

>>507991220
We aren't involved though, they are doing the fighting without us. Hell even US invokvement is apparantly so limited that they have not (yet) formally joined the war.

Also all those "jewish" NGOs are primarily financed and manned by islam, Qatar and Turkey in particular. They literally have offices in our country admitting that they do.
There's a reason every part of the smuggling chain bar the bleeding hearts picking up the boats is islamic.

It's literally just a classic case of niggers going "We dindu!" while caught in the act, desperately pretending that the problem they are is not the problem that should be solved to spare their own hides.

>>507991202
sure you do eglin nigger. Just like those interstellar UFOs you guys have and a machine that regrows your foreskin so you can tip the jews again and a again.

Just remember to livestream your death when you hit the ground in Iran after non of your burgerwaffen work.

>>507990921
>You've used lidar on anything that can be penetrated.
>lidar
>penetrating ground
How far does light usually shine through rock?

>>507989333
its not just earth they have to go through, its who knows how many feet of concrete, and like video in OP says, it will be built in ways to deviate penetrating munitions.

>>507991406
No islam is definitely our enemy everywhere, fuck half our country has been named in honor of the crusades since the 1500s, how did you not know this?

And we never did fight no, we are just well paid for the weapons theu fire at our enemies to boot.
It's a pure win-win for us; no Dutchman will ever die for Israel, but our enemies die for Israel by the thousands.

You get an even better deal since Israelis die too in addition to the muslim filth, me i don't care about that part.

>>507990957
Anon, the kikes started a war about WMD's again, despite every single person involved in intelligence and the international nuclear committee saying they don't have it, and everybody fell for it anyways, they can nuke iran and they will spin that somewhat it's for the best.

>>507991220

How about you use your fucking brain instead of assuming shit.

There is War. It makes no difference any future from this point of entry or non entry. It really doesn't matter. There is winning or there is failing. By failing it's a lot worse than winning. It will likely probability repeat any point of failure.

The point of failure is in a regime arming nukes winning. The indecisiveness allowing it. Any causation from non entry or entry is almost in the same margins whether sooner or delayed to later. Winning should have a better chance of success because it has prevented it despite whatever supposed escalation it will be there anyway on failure

>>507991574
>We aren't involved though
>Afghanistan
>Iraq
>libya
>Syria
>lebanon
Inb4 muh we were not involved yes we were we are occupied by muttlandia sadly
>Etc
You are just a jewish shill pushing for war for Irael again

>>507991684
...Depends on how you define light.
Some radiation goes pretty far (especially if a lot of it is used, see satellite imagery for ground penetrating imagery, very neat tech), but usually seismic resonance is used.

>>507991574
And
>Also all those "jewish" NGOs are primarily financed and manned by islam, Qatar and Turkey in particular.
lol>>507990632

>>507981896 (OP)
their only option is either a ground invasion or a tactical nuke

a ground invasion would be very difficult and they likely do not want to use a nuke outright

>>507991918
>Doesnt matter if you fight in a war or not
>Use your brain goyim
the thickness of the irony

>>507989333
>And the bunker buster is an incredible feat of engineering
They're just big ass guided bombs with massive hardened steel penetrators. They're built like battle ship armor piercing shells but with gridfins.

>>507984260
>didnt always
this is military code for never.

>>507991922
Thanks for listing no genuine (non-islamocope) Israeli wars outside of Syria and Lebanon, where in the former we foolishly supplied weapons not to Israel but to local islamfaggots.

And what again did we do in Lebanon when?

>>507992022
Great spam pic man, very nice.
You have two sentences to summarise it and explain why there's any credibility to it, and i'm being generous.

face it jews have a jewish supremacist extremist problem

>>507984260
The ones used in Iraq couldnt even penetrate deep enough in Iraq, which is basically one giant floodpain of alluvial soil/desert, nothing like punching through an entire mountain.

>>507983654
Nukes are not real.

>>507981896 (OP)
It won’t work and it’s worse because that’ll justify a ground invasion.

>>507991922

The stupidity of allowing it. There is a war. It can only succeed. If it doesn't what happens anyway. They pay them and we have jihadis for tea? We did that. They were everywhere.

>>507992226
>Its not real

>>507981896 (OP)
>massively overpriced top of the line military weaponry cannot even seriously damage tiny part of a mountain
>sponges, an animal with no brain or a nervous system is more ancient that we could ever be and will probably outlive us
Humanbros...not like this...

>>507992333
Oooh another pretty spam pic.
You could try to nake your assertions credible if you want me to care, but if you just wanna spam and underscore you have nothing of note to say that's fine too.

Also no response to: >>507991805 ?
You claim that Israel is to blame for muslims here, you should be happiest of all that both Israelis and muslims are dying.

>>507982373
2 billion for a missile haha, thats a fantastic scamm.

>>507981896 (OP)
That’s why they’re using tactical nukes

>>507982373
>>507981896 (OP)
the point is the most shallowest part of iran nuclear facility would need 2 mop hitting the same spot for the most minimum damage. In reality is is 4 and this purely based on their capability.
Guess what this is not the part in the mountain, this just the most shallowest part Iran has facilities even deeper and under the mountains these are only the facilities they allowed, there no real intel on the bunker.

>>507981896 (OP)
But what about the midwit anons that say it will?

The same anons think 911 building fall at the speed of gravity after a fire that didnt impact the rest of the structure below. Those midwits.

>>507992666
Isn’t this the plot of Top Gun Maverick?

The media are recycling the same narratives from 2001
>Osama Bin Laden might get nukes
>he has a super-secret mountain tunnnel complex that we'll attack with bunker busters
>If that fails (it won't!) we'll have to put boots on the ground but don't worry it'll all be over in a week
Its deja vu all over again

>>507991383
Why would I want to invade the US? There's nothing there except halfbreeds, zionists and incest babies. We already have oil. You can keep your other natural treasures.

>>507991935
Lidar uses lasers, not radar, so it's going to be visible or near visible wavelengths.

Ground penetrating radar has very limited penetration, only a few meters, if there's moisture in the dirt.

Seismic resonance? Where does resonance come into play in seismic surveys? You need to be on the ground above the target to model underground structures with seismic methods.

>>507982161
Always have been, the US is over it’s just the dumb goyim living here don’t realize it. Thank god the JEWSA is over.

>>507986427
this ?

>>507984764
you need to deliver it underground thats the problem
and if you can - they just use thermobaric explosives which deal with any caves and bunkers more efficiently

>>507992666

Nope it uses vents for cooling and needs supply lines for any reserves. Lidar sweep any points of penetration and it caves in. It implodes itself, without supplies, or it digs and you whack a mole with another ordinance.

The other way is leaving shafts intact so you can send troops in to clear it.

Whatever that solution on the data. It isn't video decrying it. Wahaaa. Cannot. Doesn't. Won't.

>>507982373
Granite.
This mountain is on a limestone seam. Less dense than pured concrete.

>>507981896 (OP)
>posting qatar hamas propaganda

>>507992920
Not at all, just drop a probe and a few bombs and you get a nice 3D image of the underground, it's basically assisted underground sonar.

It's not super-accurate so like small tunnels could escape notice, but facilities will light up like the bloody sun on such imagery. It's commonly used to find i.e. gas and oil deposits.

>>507992288
US President can only approve of a troop deployment lasting 60 days and only for specific purposes like responding to an attack or imminent attack and congress can cut off funding to this deployment as they have oversight. Anything longer than that requires Congress. Even for Iraq congress had to approve the op.

>>507993141
it used to look like this!

>>507984666
You do realize that most nukes are air burst to maximize damage over the greatest area.

>>507992728
nawh they had no hardened bunkers in maverick, it was out in the open so they used normal fighter. Mops are huge and basically only 2 bombers can carry them older ww2 on and b-2 can carry 2, but it's wide as fuck fro below so you can't really do bomb run for so long unless you take out iran's AA capabilities,
so that means now you need other b-2 and other planes to take out AA capabilities to not hit the wide as fuck b-2. This means also you gotta probably deal with iran navy that will blockade and place mines in the strait, to not encircle us navy ship in the gulf, then you gotta realize that hezbollah and houthi will also strike us bases, basically US base will get hit and they are not in a 4 layer protection like Kikes, also the kikes are being given thaads and patriots batteries right now so Us bases are weakly defended against Iranian strike. Then you realize that most US bases are hundred of miles away from iran not thousands like kikes.

It basically a shit show operation

>>507993390
So far the operation is not expected to last longer than weeks.

Could of course turn into a "Russian 3-days" but frankly that seems unlikely as Iran has too few friends and too many enemies and no credible buffers of its own.

>>507993662
Iran's AA is effectively gone already though.

>>507981896 (OP)
For fucks sake I cant stand when someone gets asked a straightforward question and they launch into some preamble instead of answering.

>>507993374
Good point, they could airdrop the seismic probes and use bombs.

What did you mean by resonance though?

>>507993314
>muh vents
so you temporally stopped iran from getting shit out the site , won't do shit cause you now need troops on iran or else they just start fixing it. Israeli can't even make it to iran, they have no capbalities to supply troops even if they could move them to Iran. so basically it us troops cause no one else can land on iran.

>>507981896 (OP)
what if Iran places a small explosive on top of where the americans want to drop the MOP, and the explosive goes off exactly when the MOP is in very close proximity, triggering the explosive charge inside the MOP and thus eliminating the bunker busting abilities

>>507985488
>I love how everyone is fucking expert on this shit now. The US military is the strongest, most reliable fighting force in the world by far.

>>507985209
Cobalt bomb

>>507981896 (OP)
>He thinks all of them space x flights are for satelites communication

They literally have rods from god in orbit, Iran is cooked

>>507994002
Hmm?
Oh i might have just misremebered the name for the term, i meant the propagation and bouncing of the waves thus revealing the structure, though i recall something about being able to get more qualitative info about the "hit" targets with it too, as it is used for oil exploration and there are many different kinds of fields and containing, eh, ground thingies.

I'm working overtime here having to monitor stuff, so my attention and memory for this thread are starting to wane.
It's nothing groubdbreaking (well except maybe in the literal sense) soinfo about the tech is publically available for the most, just pook up deep water... i forgit the name for it in english but deep water fosdil fuel deposit exploration.

I'm sure you can figure it out, i'mma go now though as i've gotta finish up.

This is probably classified but if you look at the wikipedia of the gbu 57, it mentions that it contains "The warhead assembly contains 4,590 pounds (2,082 kg) of AFX-757 and 752 pounds (341 kg) of PBXN-114"

the smaller fraction of PBXN is probably used to drive a shaped charge in a similar manner as the stormshadow/scalp in bunker buster mode.


i asked chatgpt about copper shaped charge penetration on a theoretical 341kg PBXN shaped charge and it lines up roughly.

this bomb doesnt simply rely on freefall kinetic energy for penetration, it blasts a hole and then the warhead goes through that hole.

>>507989472
An even easier and cheaper solution would be to just not be israel's attack dog or tax farm.

>>507988143
that's nothing to the USAF lol

Pukeraine wasted more than that one just one of your Leopard 2s

>>507981896 (OP)
LET'S TEST IT!

I need one of these to pleasure OPs mom.

>>507993761
Trump can def approve strategic bombing. But boots on the ground would not work. This isnt like taking out Osama in pakistan where a a handfull of black hawk helicopters can drop delta force in at night and be in and out in less than 2 hours. Iran has one of the top 10 largest militaries on earth and the nuclear facility would be very heavily defended. I don't see how a quick op can achieve nuclear disarmament, this would be more taking and hold strategic locations DEEP in iran for weeks at minimum

>>507982373
Not even close. Stop pulling numbers out of your ass or arse in your case

>>507992537
>If i dont check the sources it isnt real
What a compelling argument

>>507994517
Gotcha. The terms you were looking for were reflection and refraction. Those are the interactions that affect the travel path of a seismic wave. Imaging discrete structures like an underground base would rely on reflections, whereas refracted waves travelling along the boundaries of continuous geological strata play a big role in mapping sedimentary basins in oil exploration.

>>507992537
You littery talk like it is 2003 again with all the same bullshit arguments

>>507994143
I don't think Wiley E Coyote is in charge of Iranian defenses. Maybe, the way they've been having their shit pushed in, he is.

>>507994517
>Overtly pro kikes
>I'm working overtime here having to monitor stuff

>>507981896 (OP)
A few years ago there were some posts on the schizo board about the US Army conducting training in subterranean warfare. Now we know why, and that the post wasn't so schizo after all.

>>507991918
Isn't it awful that we allowed North Korea to get nukes and didn't get the chance to do Korean War 2.0? :(

>>507995264
and you don't even need to ask why, it's a jew or someone who is "aspirationally jewish"

>>507995485
>and that the post wasn't so schizo after all.
I mean seems pretty normal that the army would train at such. Where the contents of the post actual lunacy involving mole people or what?

>>507984533
It isn't penetrating several meters of granite

>>507994545
That wouldn't penetrate granite, what are you retarded? Learn how to problem solve, zoomer

>>507982373
actually it was 3.14 trillion dollars

>>507982161
yes, What it wil end up happening is goyim dying on the ground, thats where everything is heading

>>507993831
yet they still use missiles, rockets on kikes.
It's different ball game when the target is wide as b-2 it's not small and fast like f-35 and other jets. Things must be ensured to be clear before they can even attempt mop run.

>>507982161
No you retard, concrete impact strength got better, that's all.

>>507981896 (OP)
>Drop a couple of MOPs on Mr Frodo
>Follow it with a medium nuke chaser
>If anyone asks about fallout, point out that mountain was filled with Uranium when it blew up
NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!!!

>>507996064
>BOOM
>Trust me...soon the jews will stop dying and the goyim will start dying for us! Yes...It's all coming together!
>BOOM

>>507984666
4 mops dropped on the same point of the mountain, followed by a nuke into the crater

>>507996266
>>507996331
Backslidemind

>>507981896 (OP)
i bet they will cope and seethe so much after failing to destroy it that Pissrael or its golem will do a suicide special forces raid to try and blow it up from the inside

>>507985488
This is why we keep losing isn't it

>>507996465
We've made entire mountains disappear in Vietnam with B-52s.
All it takes is time, and pressure.

>>507994139
they're counting on enough turncoats to join a small group of paratroopers/intelligence coordinators to do the actual heavy lifting
same thing they did in Syria and now Iran is just as ripe for a coup it seems

>>507996818
syria took 10 years for turn coats to even happen anon.

>>507992889
You believe that because you’re a fucking idiot. And you obviously aren’t going to do shit are ya.

>>507996865
>>507996818
>syria 10 years for a regime change
>us has boots on the ground searching for al Qaeda/ISIS in Yemen while also bombing them for 15 years and no regime change.

>>507984260
That's funny. So that's how the Taliban came back and they were all there. Retards. lmao

>>507996751
Because you’ll never be a woman? Because the Supreme Court shot down gender reassignment?

>>507996331
The problem with digging a hole with bombs is
>1) you need to penetrate to the optimal cratering depth (which may not be a problem)
>2) the crater backfills with ejecta from the blast. You'd have to keep blasting away the rims that keep piling up to stop them from slumping back into the hole and putting you back to square 1

>>507997151
I'm not fuckin dying for Israel

>>507997290
don't worry anon a schism in the cia want to prioritize fighting chinks so they see you dying for kikes as impediment to transition to china. How ever they might be fine with US bombing iran to ensure Kike remains the superior player in the middle east.

The sad part is most the American first people that are anti-troops are probably working for this glow nigger schism.

>>507981896 (OP)
You need access into the facility and you need air ventilation. Bomb the shit out of those and they can't use it. Then when Iran finally gives up, Israel can send people in the facility to set up bombs all over it and blow the shit out of it

So it'll take more than one? Such deep analysis

Not happening anyway. Let the Kikes fight their war. I'm not interested.

>>507996865
>>507997109
fair point but the playbook is still the same
they've had just as much time to embed assets in Iran and that government is far weaker than they project intelligence wise
they don't even need government figures they just need a paramilitary group and a few government employees willing to sell out for the promise of a plane ticket and some cash (we all know how that turns out)

>>507996266
Russia did that with the depleted uranium munitions NATO sent to Ukraine. Never heard another peep about DU after that.

Or did they?

>>507995576
Russia put a stop to that shit when they handed Best Korea fully modern ICBM delivery vehicles that could hit anywhere on Earth. Don’t hear about war with NK anymore.

>>507982373

Fuck sake fool, Moab is massive ordinance air burst, what they are discussing I'd Mop: massive ordinance penetrator. They did not use these in Aghanistan.

>>507981896 (OP)
Resembles of unconsented penetration of a dick into a body.

>>507997212
Thank you for actually looking at the page I posted unlike all the other anons who think "just nuke it" will work. This situation is actually pretty interesting because the US and Jizzrael want to pretend they have the capability, and the media has been running stories about bunker busters, but in reality they don't have the ability. Successive detonations are probably counter productive as loose fallback material absorbs more energy than solid rock.

>>507997690
What do American's say about the second amendment, "An armed society is a polite society"?
People are very rude to you if you don't have nukes.

We don't need to use the bunker buster bombs. This is coded language they're using so they can have a covert discussion in public.

The United States has a railgun in space. This is something we have been working on for a long time. It fires a gigantic metal needle-like rod from space to a target on Earth. It's accurate within a yard and can penetrate almost a kilometer deep. The Israelis are aware of this weapon and want us to use it, while claiming it's just a conventional bunker buster dropped from a B2. It's not. It's a magnetic needle shot from space. It moves so fast that it's unlikely any modern radar would detect it and it can't be seen with the naked eye.

This is practically an open secret in the defense industry and after a few drinks any of your friends in the business will boast about it because it's fucking cool.

>>507981896 (OP)
They will claim it worked and the media will do the rest

>>507998028
cool story bro
>unzips telescope

>>507983914
Now you know what all those semi recent (within the past 5-10 years) articles going on about the us and allies spending billions training soldiers for underground warfare were referring to specifically :p just watched a very recently uploaded video on youtube about exactly that last night coincidentally

>>507998028
This is true, a rod just penetrated my house

>>507997434
The only schism is the one you’re trying to somehow relate to your hatred for Jews. You want radicals to continue controlling Iran?

>>507981896 (OP)
Why not use thermite or some kind of radiation (contained to that area) and just make it so that people cannot enter or leave the bunker? That way the facility is rendered useless. Am I secretly a military genius? Did I solve Israel/US problem under cost and ahead of schedule? Should they hire me to be their general?

>>507987911
Those in power are blackmailed after being invited to all the kike's degenerate parties, as they are the ones who control the culture/entertainment apparatus, they have the power to rope anybody into blackmail by chasing celebrityhood and status. Also, whites are Christcucks- a mentally enslaving deeply engrained worldview that goes back to biblical times. Whites are kike's golems and subservient puppets through generations of mindfuck and breeding. Not a bond that is broken easily

>>507984637
I laughed hard at this. Thx

>>507985488
> The US military is the strongest, most reliable fighting force in the world by far.
If by strong you mean devotion to Israel and if by reliable you mean at spending trillions of dollars for 20 years and then losing to a heard of goat fuckers; oh yea very much.

All Thai talk about Muh capabilities is missing the point: ZOG is recycling the same “WMD” bullshit to start another war and no one is hanging these fuckers for trying this again.

>>507986060
Damn that probably looks cool as hell are there pics

>>507981896 (OP)
even better, anything that drags america even further in

>>507998972
There's lots of info on underground nuclear detonations here, the result is quite different depending on depth: https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Library/Effects/UndergroundEffects.html

Picrel is about 30m depth, roughly the same as a GBU-57A can penetrate in dense rock.

>>507997907
Can you link it again? I didn't see your other post. I just remembered that paper was referenced in some "schizo" theories about post-ww2 nuclear weapon use, analyzing the craters of supposedly caused by surface level detonation of conventional explosives.
It should be common sense for anyone whose tried to dig a hole though. The deeper you go, the farther you have to shovel the dirt away to keep it from sliding back in.

I think the hype about bunker busters is to run cover for when they do use nukes to get the job done, so they can say "see, we told you bunker busters work, why would we need to use a nuke?"

>>507999310
>>507999460
You probably saw my reply above yours, but I just reposted it. Very interesting page actually, it makes all the internet comments look really stupid.

>>507998223
It's inside of a regular satellite you wouldn't be able to distinguish it from any of the others.

>>507983514
>You don't know that. There's tons of ground penetrating radar shit. I don't know what there is, but I wouldn't be so sure we don't know where the tunnels are.

holy fuck the absolute cope of you /k/ niggers is unreal

>>507998924
“You lost to rice farmers” is so fucking cringe and gay.

>>507989882
>death to america
>death to the west
>but muh poor muzzerinos?! What about muh kikes?!
Australians

>>507985400
My first Israeli flag sighting of the day. You guys were all over the place yesterday. Out filling in pot holes today?

>>507998851
You could use a dirty bomb enriched with cobalt, which absorbs neutrons and becomes highly radioactive. That would effectively deny the area, but also leave zero plausible deniability, like you could get away with using a much cleaner weapon and blaming the radiation on Iran's nuclear materials.

>>507989250
Trump is expected to make a decision in 24-48 hours, Netanyahu does not believe he will do it. Or he's just playing the same card again.
In either case a bunch of US planes landed in Baghdad today and then left an hour later. So presumably burgers are evacuating all of their personnel within Iran's strike distance.

>>507989919
I would like to know more about this. Very little information online other than basic bullshit and likely lies. No real reporting on it since 2004. I was young(er) at the time so ive never heard of this

>>507999916
Hate to be the one to tell you this, but reality is cringe and gay.

>>507981896 (OP)
That's why they'll use a nuclear one instead.
Why do you think they're taking so long?
Have to make sure the legend sells.

>>507981896 (OP)
RODS OF GOD ANYONE?
(or some other non nuclear not known

>>507999320
So we're gonna use the force? I don't think this is anything like how you bullseye womprats back home...

>>507982654
>>507990086
>shocking amount of academics make their whole career by bullshitting
A lot of them (current in-academe or retired) have YT blog channels

I mean how is a bomb supposed to travel 60m through rock and concrete before detonating? I just don't see it happening.

>>508000675
Tom Cruise can do it without the targeting computer

>the ability

To do what precisely?
Not even the military people seem to be able to specifically and properly define what the exact target elements within the underground complex are.


>'take it out'
What does that mean exactly? "Stop capability for enrichment"? Or something else
This whole thing is a gigantic larp

>>507989875
Please, tell us more about this magical lidar from space that can penetrate more than 10m and give cavity mapping or even identification.
You fucking retard.

>>508000555
Checked. Also, I’m an old fag. But to discount the power of the US military is ignorant.

>>507999310
Neat. Thanks informanon

>>507993447
Proofs?

>>507982373
Politicians deployed them as publicity stunts in situations where they weren’t advised. Bunker busters work exactly how they are supposed to. I worked with a defense contractor and the capabilities are very real. Just don't expect it to vastly exceed those parameters. If your bunker is built under a granite mountain then not even a nuke will destroy it.


Bunker busters are big and heavy and designed to smash through layers and blow up after x floors have been penetrated. It is specifically designed to leave detonation intact through several reinforced too layers of a normal bunker so the explosives go off inside.

You realize it’s already an impossibly hard weapon as it is? You’re talking about penetrating several layers of what could be the back wall of a weapons testing firing range. A rail gun right on top aimed down can’t penetrate like these do.

It is an impressive weapon but we also had the specs floating around since the Hillary email leaks which has given enemies a decade to prepare against them.

>>508000928
its a 12 ton bullet with a small amount of explosive filler.

>>507991060
When they were made in the early 2000's they cost less than 200k each.

Bros why am i so interested inthis whole situation specifically? Deep down i know nothing actually ever happens but i find the situation the entire world is in right now so bizarre.

>>507988498
Why on earth would you believe they destroyed their last neutron bomb 30 years ago, instead of believing neutron bombs now make up the majority of the US's and Russian nuclear arsenal?

They are the perfect combat nukes for frontline use, and both sides have stated they have moved away from strategical nuclear warfare.

>>507990921
> lidar
You have no idea what you’re talking about.

>>507999696
Cheers. Good synthesis of the relevant papers. Saved.

Most people, including top NATO brass, seems to base their entire concept of war off holywood movies.

Basic physics is beyond their grasp. The previous Secretary of Defense has an academic background in counselor education. I doubt Hegseth is any more qualified. You'd think some education in math and physics so they can understand how modern weapons actually work would be required.

>>508000666
>RODS OF GOD ANYONE?
hollywood bullshit for the neo-con woke-right to gobble up
you would have to be some kind of child to still believe the US has "Muh alien tech weapons 50-100years ahead of Russia and China!!!!"
/k/ dogshit still

>>508000244
Another argument for neutron bombs making up the majority of America's tactical nuclear arsenal.
It would be much harder to test after the fact if a neutron bomb was used, especially if you used it simultaneously with MOAB.
But they have to sell that narrative, and the kikes and their kvetching have made anything red flag/black flag a much harder sell to the American people and the world at large.

>>507989875
>Regardless you can always send in spec ops when the area is virtually clear of any surface.
how do you faggot nigger /k/ikes believe this?

>"well just send a navy seal team right into the heart of Irans most 'secret' and 'well guarded' military facility EZ no problem!!! lmao, (insert some israeli slang term for muslims)

>>508001823
There’s always reason for concern and second guessing experts with years of service far beyond anything you will ever achieve.

>>508001636
>so bizarre
anon you're correct. This is really bizarre even for 'foreverwar', 'kill muh ragheads' and the U.S. mil-industrial complex

Professor Postol sums it up well in the OP video
>"Who is to say, what is under the ground?"

IDF cartoon gpt fantasy videos aren't going to cut it. It's more than just making a schematic of Osama's cave, you have to know exactly the fortification of the underground complex, what types and thicknesses of overlying rock formation/deposits, exactly where and at what depths the concrete 'armor' (multiple types / locations / shapes / dimensions / depths could ? exist) is, et cetera

>>508001695
Look at the burns on this kid from Baghdad. The sharp lines dividing unburned skin, with flesh charred to the bone. No fireball from a conventional explosion could do that. If he was close enough to a regular HE blast to cause those burns, the pressure and temperature in the immediate vicinity wouldn't have left the rest of him unscathed.

Those are intense radiation burns, and the tan lines are from where he was shaded from direct exposure.

Why do you think they immediately replaced the top soil around the area of that battle?

>>508001823
>Most people, including top NATO brass, seems to base their entire concept of war off holywood movies.
they truly actually and cultishly believe the "American Exceptionalism" neo-con woke-right dogshit like "muh Alien super tech weapons!" and "Muh rods from God" even! shit unironically and literally actually believe the US is some magic country 100 years ahead of anyone else, as we sit here and watch Iranians rain hypersonic missiles down on israel (which is a GREAT thing, btw)

>>508002386
>master of arts degree in counselor education
>"expert"
If you think that degree is an achievement, that says something about you.

>>507999310
You're not thinking big enough.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedan_(nuclear_test)

Surprised the 'nukes aren't real' kikes aren't here yet.

>>507981896 (OP)
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>>508003268
>Sir you need automatic guidance system for bunker buster? We have ultimate bunker buster coding specialist at TCS, rate is economical. We guarantee it will buster the bunker as long as you need, it is very advanced software, please redeem at earliest convenience.
lmao

>>508002733
DEW

>>508002953
Yeah, we've seen Patriot AA batteries can't even defend themselves countless times now. THAAD can't intercept Iran's ballistic missiles. Yemen chased off the US Navy with their cottage industry stuff.

So delusional. America's only real strength is nuclear blackmail.

>>508002733
Haven't seen that before, but I have plenty of webms of tactical nuclear explosions that immediately get pounced on as conventional explosives.
People are stupid, but most importantly, people are gullible.

>>507982651
niggas are actually retarded

i had no proof or evidence of this, but after watching the video i feel absolutely convinced

>>508003526
Where is that from? Haven't seen it before. I got a bunch of examples of highly suspect post-ww2 nuclear weapon use. This thread is about to die. If you wanna start a 'nukes are real' thread or something, i'll migrate