>>507983276>Alright nice, actual advice but when do I try to fuck her, the second date?No, three dates no fucking, by the fourth date, she'll say don't you like me and you'll say, of course I do, I wanted to respect you and wait until you knew how much I cared about you. Any man can fuck, not many men show they care. This will put you in a category above other men as the one and she'll want to fuck you. Next plan a romantic weekend away someplace Saturday wine tasting, sleep over 'sex' and sunday wine tasting and driving home. Take a nice drive to someplace pretty. Women love experiences and bragging to girlfriends what a stud you are.