Thread 507990586

>Still hasn't made a decision yet
Is there still a slight chance that he will not intervene?

>>507990586 (OP)
Seems he is giving them a chance to talk but if they don't take it he probably will.

>>507990586 (OP)
MAGA will flip their shit if he does it.

>>507990586 (OP)
He's waiting on the U.S.S. Nimitz to be attacked so as to justify an overwhelming response. There's a reason they sent a 50 year old ship sent to be decommissioned next year anyway to this warzone.
https://news.usni.org/2025/03/04/uss-nimitz-more-than-3000-sailors-will-move-to-norfolk-in-2026

>>507990586 (OP)
>>507990688
>>507990734
He is just biding time to move all assets into place and evacuate all personel from ME

>>507990688
He demanded Iran's "Unconditional Surrender" following an unprovoked preemptive attack by Israel. There's no way he's delusional enough to think they'll negotiate now.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/17/trump-iran-israel-khamenei.html

>>507990850
Why is there US personnel inside you?

>>507990586 (OP)
GOP is about to commit sudoku

>>507990895
>unprovoked preemptive attack by Israel
Nah. Iran has dun far from nuffin.

>>507990586 (OP)
His descendants will inherit the Gaza strip, of course he will intervene, he's married into it.

>>507990997
ah yes, watching a genocide and saying things is mean

>>507990586 (OP)
He has a choice, Israel or MAGA.

He's waiting for the false flag to happem

>>507990586 (OP)
That’s the third option.
Depending on that, we will know if he is a puppet/pussy or just another neocon.

>>507991085
Hamas, the Houthis, all the rabid jihadis all over are backed by Iran.

>>507990586 (OP)
>>507990688
>>507990850
He’s buying time so that his kike buddies can buy defense stocks and short SPY.
As always.

>>507990734
Who cares about MAGA? He needed them to get elected, which is now done. They’re no longer relevant.

>>507990586 (OP)
>Is there a chance he won't guzzle jew cum?
No. Never has been,

>>507990586 (OP)
I think he’s really hoping the Iranians will rise up and topple the Ayatollah so he doesn’t have to ruin his legacy. But it the end it’s obvious he doesn’t have a choice in the matter.

>>507991167
soo the only ally the genocided people have is bad right

>>507991531
Don't start what you can't finish.

>>507991258
>They’re no longer relevant.
No, that's Canadians that you're thinking of.

>>507991258
That is why I'm absolutely hoping he goes along with it because then it awakens them and it's nearly half his base. This means they get to see his intentions of H1B replacement for what it is.

>>507991531
they're getting genocided because they got given weapons by Iran. Iran is responsible for every dead Gazan.

>>507990586 (OP)
he met with the pakistan military chief AND SAID NOTHING
so the meeting didn't go well, if they didn't give a green light we are not going in

>>507990688
gotta let iran get a few more strikes in so the leadership can save face. i dont think anyone wants a regime change in iran, least of all israel, because the resulting power vacuum would cause a real shitstorm. better to keep the enemy you know etc etc

>>507991258
you're a "leaf" (probably a poo or chinese) but i'll humor you. don't the midterms matter to Trump if he intends to keep his mandate? if he alienates his base and goes full neocon the Democrats can capitalize on it if they can get back in touch quickly and finally name the jew while dropping identity pol.

remember how the conservatives were slated to win a supermajority here? but then things happened so fast, the liberals were able to recapture the narrative despite their track record in government, put in a decent candidate that can lean economically right on some things while not being cannibalized by the ultra left who reluctantly backed him. i know this is the painfully simple version that leaves out a lot of the other reasons the liberals still won but you get it. personally i voted liberal because even though i agreed with the conservative agenda more, the massive turnoff for me was the unequivocal, unopposed giga support. just go look at what the simple goy from the prairies has been posting on his X page about iran, how israel would be "doing the world a favor" by annihilating iran's regime

I digress,

Republicans need to do well in midterms, the only reason trump is able to get away with the things he is now is because Congress is deadlocked on anything anti-Trump agenda because of Republican control of both house and senate. If that flips Trump could easily become subject to the checking and balancing of power that Congress is supposed to be doing, but cant

>>507990586 (OP)
He's monitoring the situation.

So he’s just supposed to let Iran develope the nuke if they refuse to cooperate?

TACO isn't just about tariffs

>>507990734
Samson Option if he doesn't

He's flip-flopping because he wants to help zogs, but he knows his base hates the idea. So he's buying time to seed the idea with Republican media and mouthpieces via talking points. In a month, MAGA will love the idea of dying in Israel.

>>507993017
>In a month
it seems to be progressing much faster than that

>>507993134
Probably. These are the people who wore diapers because the liberal media claimed that Donald Trump did. American rednecks are not exactly our best.

>>507991167
Using the same logic, Russia has a total casus belli against UK.

>>507990586 (OP)
Yes and nothing (by far) would make libs seethe more

>>507990586 (OP)
no, he has been cucked and is not in control

>>507990586 (OP)
Israel has seen the most significant damage and threat to its “existence” in most of our lifetimes and the US hasn’t gotten fully involved. For all the posturing he’s done it’s actually some small miracle that he hasn’t bombed Iran yet. This isn’t the normal spat they get in, this is exactly what America is supposed to intervene in, and despite all the gobbling all we’ve done is shot down a few missiles and make a few mean tweets. I really wonder what kind of effect this will have in the long run. Look past the shilling and shitposting and really think about this, and it’s crazy that America hasn’t gotten deeply involved already.

>>507990586 (OP)
The plan is to let Israel and Iran exhaust themselves.

>>507993874
>I really wonder what kind of effect this will have in the long run.
foreign adversaries will just write off his mean tweets as hot air

>>507991802
>Iran is responsible for every dead Gazan.
israel funded and promoted hamas, considered armed millitants to be preferable to a legit political party that might eventually be effective - - there's even a wikipedia page about this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

so your claim is kinda bullshit really; Israel is a fascist state, the current crop of zionists are commited to ethnic cleansing and mass murder to achieve their objectives, and every day israeli's kill innocent civillians simply because they're palestinian and in the way - none of this has anything to do with iran or hamas.

>>507990586 (OP)
Ive lost all hope thay he will not intervene. Hes letting the shit boil over so we'll have no choice but to get involved

>>507993874
Reports and leaks are indicating Trump hasn't been convinced, despite propaganda otherwise, that bombing le nuclear site would actually have any impact on anything. All it would do is incite Iran to attack OUR assets in the region which they haven't do so far. It's not even clear using the bunker busters would even work too LOL

>>507990586 (OP)
TACO
I just hope for the sake of the wold he will pussy out this time too

>>507990586 (OP)
He's amping up pressure while seeing if he can get enough of his base to go along with it.
If he can't, he won't. If he does do it, it will be because he calculated he can swing it politically.
That's what it boils down to.

>>507994093
That's not true. Iran hasn't bombed anything of ours because they know if they did we would respond. It's extremely smart of Iran not to have chimped out against us and instead focus on attacking Israel for their unilateral aggression against Iran. If they wouldve attacked us it changes the narrative from iran being attacked to Iran is attacking the US.

I am imagining how Iranian women may look hypothetically.

It's kind of strange. On one hand, I imagine them as being attractive.

On the other hand, all image searches of them make them out to look like the most generic arabs.

But I just know this isn't the case. I had an Iranian Discrete 2 professor and she looked otherworldly.

Like what is going on here? Are they hiding the Persian beauty truth from us?

>>507994340
>shills against Trump for wanting to bomb Iran
>shills against Trump for not wanting to bomb Iran
I think you're just here to shill

>>507994381
Iranians chicks just cover their heads, not their faces.
Some of them are hot af.

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>>507994428
I'm not sure whomst you are quoting.

>>507990586 (OP)
He is just waiting for the Carrier groups to arrive, if he announces joining the war before everything is in-place he risks the possibility of casualties from US troops in Syria and elsewhere being targeted. He might officially join when the UK Carrier group arrives or wait for the rest of the US Carriers to arrive would be my best guess. I think if it wasn't for Israel running out of air defence he would of just pulled a 180 out of nowhere after the Nimitz arrived and struck without warning like his cruise missile strikes a few years back.

>>507994557
>foreign eurolib using butthurt DNC talking points
You, NAFO retard

>>507994111
This. Israel's genocide and crimes of war aren't "provoked by Iran".
I stand with Iran because I don't judge those who take up arms to stop genocide and defend themselves against a terrorist state that attacked them first.

>>507993012
sadly bibi is too much of a pussy to do the sneedful and samsung all big cities

>>507990586 (OP)
Seems they took a break to figure out better more subtle and slick ways to get you to die for Israel.

kikes will false flag hard otherwise nobody will fight. they support because Pakistan is kicking off next

>>507990734
This, impeachment will follow soon after.
Kikes are having a difficult time understanding this, but America First means Americans don't die for other country than America.

>>507994351
>Iran hasn't bombed anything of ours
Just our greatest ally

It isn't up to him. There is infighting among his donors and its up to them.

>>507994111
>muh heckin fascist genociderinos

America first means dont vote for a guy from Palm Beach and NYC.

>>507990825
They are out of carriers. The houthis damaged one. The other ones are either in maintenance or in strategic zones like Asia.
That's a Twitter take. No Iranian is shooting a carrier. Waste of a missile.

>>507991556
Do it. Samadhi is so close bro just fucking do it.

>supplying billions of dollars of weapons
>not intervening

is he just procrastinating?
the "little victories" he does like erecting flagpoles and signing tiktok delays sounds like the kind of shit i'd do to put off doing homework

>>507995567
why the fuck does tik tok seem like a more sensitive matter than his "trade deals" which he made effective a lot faster?

Will Trump get his buddies low stock prices tomorrow so they can buy or high ones so they can sell? I really wonder...

>>507990586 (OP)
Because he knows he'll be in prison after he loses the midterms and gets impeached.

>>507990586 (OP)
>>507990688
He's just building suspense and making sure he has everybody's attention. Trump is an idiot savant, and spectacle and showmanship is his thing.

he wants to destroy the nuclear facility but it seems like it's impossible without going in by foot.

looks like negotiations it is.

>>507995374
>No Iranian is shooting a carrier.
That's correct.

>>507993874
>this is exactly what America is supposed to intervene in
This statement is exactly what's wrong with America. Israel starts an unprovoked war with one of the largest militaries in the area, and you think America's job is to jump in and rescue them.
Is being Israel's bitch so normalized for you?

>>507995722
because it is a major global social media and kikes have zero control over it
all (((their))) propaganda is useless if things like tiktok exist
it either needs to be under (((their))) control or it needs to be shut down

>>507996122
who provided the weapons to carry the initial attack?

>>507995722
>>507996198
tiktok videos of hypersonic strikes in tel aviv were pretty kino
elsewhere they were heavily censored

>>507996198
I just find it unbelievable that trump supposedly got a trade deal with china faster than they got a deal only on tik tok

>>507993134
>>507993017
Wrong. The longer it drags on, the more anti-war his base gets. Only people 55+ want war.
>>507992811
>Republicans need to do well in midterms, the only reason trump is able to get away with the things he is now is because Congress is deadlocked on anything anti-Trump agenda because of Republican control of both house and senate. If that flips Trump could easily become subject to the checking and balancing of power that Congress is supposed to be doing, but cant
It's way more serious than that. Trump is under criminal investigation in NY and multiple civil investigations by dem state AGs. He loses the midterms (report control of house is marginalized and senate is close too), he could risk impeachment and then prosecution/jail by dem state AGs whose hands will be forced by deranged leftoids.

His base is what kept him out of jail, and Trump might love Israel but he will definitely die in prison if he strikes Iran.

>>507996454
the only "deal" trump got was the one with uk
there are no other deals
there was only 'truce' on trade war with china because china locked usa out of rare elements market and trump had to back down

Come to think of it, this is why they tried to kill him twice. It was the only way to prevent this exact situation. They spent 10 years demonizing Trump to the point that he can't get a fair trial anywhere. Trump is between whatever Bibi is threatening him with and rabid dems.

This might unironically be the only way we break the zionist control of our foreign policy.

>>507996881
ah yes 32d parcheesi

>>507990586 (OP)
even if he wanted to i think his massive ego wouldn't allow it so he has to double down

>>507995169
Do you think that congress isn't just as owned by Israel?

>>507996944
It makes sense though. Trump will be impeached if he loses the midterms. Dems are too rabid for the Israeli lobby to stop them. Democrats want Trump lynched. The kikes have miscalculated massively and now they are stuck.

>>507992906
i love how israelis introduce the perfect conditions for an arms race in the middle east but then seethe and kvetch when it inevitably causes conflict in the region

>everyone knows i have a nuclear arsenal with a couple dozen to hundred warheads
>but im not even gonna admit it, not even gonna admit to not having it
>yet im gonna expect nonproliferation from you
>never gonna return the favor because i alone can wield the nuclear stick

how does iran or any of israel's neighbors have any good faith that they can act in their own country's interests and not immediately get steamrolled by the sole nuclear military power in the region, the second the Jew decides their enemies have something they want?

>>507996881
funny how they tried to kill him with the guy most obviously laying on top of a roof with 3 agencies who failed to stop him from shooting trump

>>507990586 (OP)
Maybe. Extremely slim, but maybe. His base is definitely fracturing over it, even the hardest MAGATards can't keep excusing his compounding blusters. Even the_donald is a saltmine right now and I've never seen it so openly critical of their God Emperor's . The ones who aren't directly critical of Trump have some (c/h)ope that this is 4D chess. No matter how he spins it it can never be optically good considering how he campaigned against neocons and their sandbox wars in the 2016 primaries

Even then the stakes are high and the geopolitical fallout can extend beyond the Middle East, Iran has some pretty powerful backers in China and Russia. This could somehow worsen or even expand the front on Ukraine and compared to when they assassinated Soleimeini it isn't so open shut and then easily memoryholed. Compared to when they did that China has never been in as good of a position to truly counter western influence than it is now, and it seems they are also increasing their support for Iran, and nobody quite knows how far China will go because they've cultivated their influence with economic pragmatism and not military strongarming like the US did as Israel's golem.

The US can easily experience some real fallout from getting involved and might actually not only start another sandbox war but it can easily become an actual multilateral conflict between NATO and China/Russia/Iran backed states.

I hope cooler heads prevail and Trump does himself and his country the smallest, simplest favor, let the israelis rot in the bed they've made, stay out of it, save face and go back to uhhh idk obsessing about trannies in women sports and unbanning plastic straws.

Why even waste breath? One way or another he'll bend the knee to his handlers, it's a matter of when and how will they cope to justify it

>>507997144
There's no way dems win 2/3 of the house and senate
Trump is untouchable til his love of cheeseburgers catches up to him

>>507991158
Trump:

1. IS a puppet/pussy, Israel controls him and our country.

2. Just another Necon. He believes gambling on war and taking out Iran will weaken China by giving us an edge when it comes to controlling energy supplies. It will also ensure the dollar remains the reserve currency of the world (it lets us print and spend all these billions)

3. He will put America first as the Israelis try to drag us into a war and continue to work on his economic strategy to ensure our economic hegemony and dollar supremacy.


Some context in pic related.

A win win for trump would be:

If the Israelis managed to regime change Iran without us starting a war with them, you know actually invading, bombing and without any body bags coming back home. It will give us more time to drag on the debt and the spending. Will give us leverage to control large part of the worlds energy supplies.

A lose lose, would be if the gambles with taking us to war (right now is the Israelis who are doing the gambling) and it results in more of the same, more debt, our standard of leaving keeps on being eroded by inflation, americans are killed and it doesn’t weaken china at all, as they find a work around. Deepseek should give everyone some hesitancy (notice how Elon has been extremely quiet on this whole Iran war issue). The techbrohs should be giving us some input on this.


IF we go to war, Trump is gambling on two things

1. We fucking win and it is not a fucking brutal conflict. That it doesn’t reach us here in America.

2. That China will not find a work around even if we win and cripple their energy resources.


You guys see how the conflict is panning out between Iran and Israel? That could potentially happen if we go to war with China.

>>507990586 (OP)
If he does - he will not be in power 2 months from now

He promised Iran can't have a nuclear weapon so probably Iran will get to have a nuclear weapon.

This would make America great again like before "our greatest ally" got theirs.

>>507995872
Id laugh
>Not my problem

>>507997563
impeached

>>507991258
>trump: I'll stop the wars on day 1
>trump today: oops I didn't stop any wars, here are more weapons for isreal btw

>>507990586 (OP)
Intervenes
>sends world into WWIII

Doesn't intervene
>if ((they)) have nothing to blackmail him with, he might as well share living quarters with Putin, because the attempts on his life are going to be constant

Maybe we should create a Nobel War Prize

>>507990586 (OP)
one last chance for negotiations tomorrow in Geneva while the remainder of the task forces arrive in the AO

>>507997264
pretty spot on post, have a (You) leaf

>>507997816
I find it extremely hilarious how europe turned pro kike in a matter of a few days

>>507991556
Yeah except they didnt start it. The kikes did back when Palestine was under British control. They started with the terror tactics and now they and you want to pretend they're victims. Fuck off.

>>507996122
In fairness to him, I don't think that anon meant that he supports America getting involved. He meant that you'd expect them to have done so already because they usually jump at any chance to help the kikes.

>>507997278
Wrong. Trump's base is 60/40 anti/pro war. The anti side grows larger everyday as the older gen dies off. If even 10% of the anti-side decided to vote D solely based on Iran to punish his Judas ass, dems would have a majority in both house and senate. Then they could change the rules for impeachment and then his ass is grass.

That's just the bare minimu btw. Dems could run on an anti war platform and gain even more.

Thats not even considering the damage civil charges will do to his family.

>>507998038
?

being pro-kike is yurope's default state of mode, miguel

>>507998075
It's funny how the Jews were organized crime in the early days as well, but today everyone thinks of Italians.

>>507998232
only a few days ago many european countries condemned their attacks on gaza

>>507998354
>but today everyone thinks of Italians.
WUT?!?!?!?
Not true (anymore)

>>507991167
Correct.
Iran has also killed many US troops via the Quds force.

>>507993586
Using the same logic the UK has casus belli against Russia 10,000 times over due to damage to infrastructure, poisonings on UK soil, funding of proxies.

As do every single country next door to the Russians. Ukraine in particular had the Russians try to assassinate the opposition in 2005 for not being pro Russian enough. That's an act of war in itself for most places.

>>507998354
are we in the early 1900s anon?

>>507990586 (OP)
He can't because Congress has made it clear that they do not support this. They are in the process of easily passing a bill that would prohibit our intervention.
If he ignores that there is a pretty decent chance he will get impeached and removed. Then Vance would probably continue it instead of withdrawing...

>>507998530
I was wondering the same...
This German must be 100 years old AT LEAST

>>507998548
Then Vance would get impeached after the midterms and we get a D president via speaker of the house (who would be a D after 2026).

>>507998397
so now you have it, europe clearly isn't one country

>>507990586 (OP)
Were you asking this question yesterday?

>>507990586 (OP)
Has Q commented on the situation yet?

>>507998820
Q said to fight for Israel

>>507998548
>congress
Trump doesn't give a fuck about congress. No President has had to deal with congress over military action for a long time.

>>507998612
>>507998530
ADOLF, THEY KNOW! SHUT IT DOWN!

>>507995374
>That's a Twitter take. No Iranian is shooting a carrier.
It doesn't matter if Iran itself shoots at it or (((someone else))), the news will decide who did it.

>>507998969
They have the power to remove him at any time. It's the only real check against him. If he clearly disobeys them and the public is furious, they will try impeaching and they can take him away in handcuffs if he doesn't want to leave.

>>507997762
He does in prison if he intervenes. Dems will make sure of it as revenge. He would be better off assassinated by Israeli hardliners so that his legacy (and his family's wealth) are protected by his base, who would elevate him to Jesus/JFK status.

>>507990586 (OP)
he's edging. this psychopath is doing the geopolitical equivalent to goooooning on the world stage. Its obscene!

>>507996587
>His base is what kept him out of jail, and Trump might love Israel but he will definitely die in prison if he strikes Iran.
Trump has no intention of allowing midterm elections as we've known them. He's going to declare a state of emergency, either due to an obvious false flag or hyping up some currently known threat. He nominated novice yes man Pete Hegseth to green light using the military against civilians, and Pete Hegseths lack of denials to this accusation is proof of the plan

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>>507992811
His "agenda" is whatever Israel wants
>the Democrats can capitalize on it if they can get back in touch quickly and finally name the jew while dropping identity pol.
1 in 5 Democrat lawmakers are jews. Why would they name themselves? Do you have any idea who's running the party? Chuck Schumer supports abortion in America while backing pro-life organizations in Israel, and Hakeem Jeffries declared Jerusalem the honorary 6th borough of NYC. These are the Democrats' leaders in the Senate and House respectively. Drop identify politics? Maxwell Frost just said the Democrats will try to amnesty all illegals if they take congress back. I don't think you understand what it means to be conquered

>>507993017
>. In a month, MAGA will love the idea of dying in Israel.
Trump has a hard core retard following that follow his every move so what he says goes. the guy could rape most of these tards mothers in front of them and as long as he told them it was 4 chess they would have no issue I am not even joking just look at the people posting in ptg