Thread 508008630

>Be modern atheist
>Think you’re the pinnacle of rational thought because you watch science YouTubers
>"I believe in facts and logic, not fairy tales!"
>Believe the entire universe came from literally NOTHING
>Not just matter, but space, time, energy, logic itself somehow "popped into existence"
>No cause, no will, no reason — just boom
Trust the science™

Let’s break this down.

1. Origin of the Universe
The Big Bang isn’t the origin of everything — it’s the origin of this universe as we know it.
But the question remains: why is there something rather than nothing?
Even if you posit a multiverse, string theory, etc., all of that still relies on pre-existing laws or conditions.
Where did those come from?
Physics can describe the how — it cannot answer the why.

2. Fine-tuning
Constants of the universe (gravity, cosmological constant, electromagnetic force) are set to such absurdly precise values that if you changed them even slightly, stars wouldn’t form, life wouldn’t be possible.
Fine-tuned to 1 in 10^120.
That’s not random. That’s deliberate. That’s design.

3. Consciousness
Explain qualia. Explain subjective experience.
We can’t even explain why we have thoughts or what "free will" really is.
Materialism has no explanation for how neurons produce the taste of chocolate or the color red.
Even top neuroscientists call consciousness "the hard problem" — because your little lab rats and electrodes can’t solve it.
Your soul is screaming that it exists, but you drown it in TikTok and SSRIs.

4. Universal moral law
Every human society has independently developed concepts of murder being wrong, lying being wrong, honor, justice, loyalty, etc.
Why?
If morality is just social convention or evolutionary instinct, then there's no reason why genocide, rape or betrayal are truly bad — just inconvenient to group survival.
And yet people feel guilt. Shame. Meaning.
You think that’s evolution? Or maybe it’s a trace of something higher calling you to be better?

fuck y'all nigga

>>508008630 (OP)
All I care about is Europeans, as long as Ethnic-Europeans have control over Europe and our colonies, that is all I care about.

And no religion will get in that way.

I AM GOD.

>>508008630 (OP)
I don't believe in the big bang.

Here's your 200+ iq man

>>508008630 (OP)
Another atheism strawman post

>>508008630 (OP)
>blah blah blah words words words

I still wont join your glorified synogogue, prove that jesus christ is god

>>508008630 (OP)
I'm not an atheist, I just don't believe an all-loving God would make this realm.
This existence is not compatible with the concept of a creator that loves his creations. Period.
If God is real, he genuinely hates all life. This sick and twisted reality is proof.

We are all definitely going to die in pain and lose everything we have ever cared about. Love would not allow such a concept into the equation.
If your excuse is that this realm is some kind of test or lesson, that makes it all the more cruel to force us into this realm when he could just use literal God Magic to teach us instantly instead of making an entire existence where all life suffers and dies. It also dismisses the suffering of animals.

Please understand that I do not intend for this sound like an insult or belittling of God, it's simply my belief based on what I have experienced:
God does not love. He hates more than anything you can imagine. This existence is proof. You can't justify that this creation was made with love without making up something that isn't in any scripture or any religion.

God is real.
God is the purest hatred to ever be.
Life being awful is proof.

>>508008630 (OP)
>1. Origin of the Universe
>The Big Bang isn’t the origin of everything
Incorrect it's a theory about what happened after the singularity
>That’s not random. That’s deliberate. That’s design
Or it could be eternal entropy
>3. Consciousness
A product of the brain.

>4. Universal moral law
Doesn't exist

>>508008630 (OP)
>Big Bang
book of jews says that earth was created in 7 days, though

>it's just some old book lol
>i know manifesting works coz i saw it on tik tok

>>508008630 (OP)
All of those things are just arguments for the existence of God which I agree with. None of that proves Jesus was the son of God. Both atheists and Christcucks online have this wierd thing where they conflate the two things. Like if you argue with an atheist about the existence of God, he'll assume you're a Christian. If you argue against Christianity, a Christian will assume you're an atheist. There are more than just those two beliefs. You know that right? Christianity dies not have the monopoly on theistic belief, as much as you want that to be true.

>>508008630 (OP)
The Bible is a whole lot easier to understand if you start believing Jesus when he says "I live because of the Father", or “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me", or "for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came forth from the Father. I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; I am leaving the world again and going to the Father.” or "and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me", or "I am from Him, and He sent Me", or "Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe ALSO in Me.", or "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent", or "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus", or "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross", or "But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I HEARD FROM GOD; this Abraham did not do", or "There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all", or "for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him", or....... should I keep going. I have hundreds more.

>>508009101
Poof me a poofta

>>508010163
another attention whoring post of the retarded namescum midwit I destroy on every single thread

isnt you asshole getting sore already from all the pounding I give it?

>>508011116
>I destroy on every single thread
>only replies with hurt feelings
Kek

>>508008630 (OP)
How am I supposed to know which religion is the right one when there are so many?
Imagine devoting your entire life to the Christian God, only to die and discover the true God was actually from Islam.

>>508010415
>I'm not an atheist
>I just don't believe God
that's atheism though. atheist is a person who rejects god, from a point of view of believer in that god. simple as.

however what OP describes isn't religion, but occultism.

>>508008630 (OP)
Everyone's looking at reality backwards. Existence begins with the spiritual. And from the spirit an "artificial" material world is created with such rules and parameters as to approximate spiritual existence. We might measure the rules and create equations describing this "simulation", but that does not mean the equations are the source of the reality. It's like measuring in-game physics in a video game and thinking there's a fundamental truth to it. No, the physics were designed in order to make the play experience fun. It was not that the play experience was coincidentally fun because the physics parameters happened to be tuned to very precise numbers.

>>508011234
why dont you reply to this guy? >>508010415

>>508012042
>why dont you reply to this guy?
Why?

4. Is just a totally retarded argument

You don't need Le Truly Bad to exist for universal morality to pop out

Someone kills your wife. You are sad/hurt. So you can say: murder is bad

Same with stealing. Someone stole something from you. You didnt like it.

Everyone is like that , so people gather together and agree "when my loved one's was killed I didnt like it, so it is bad, it should be punished"

Exactly same princippe why everyone generally likes the smell of flowers while dislikes the smell of manure

>>508008630 (OP)
>Origin of the universe
Big bang was the start of time
Cause and effect relies on time existing
If if you say it's not, it doesn't imply God. All it implies is some prime mover. No need for him to be omnipotent, and even less for him to be a Christian god
>Fine tuning
Why constants are what they are is an unsolved problem. Can they be any other way? Who knows. But regardless, life is result of current conditions-of course it can't exist in different ones
>Consciousness
Problem being unsolved does not imply your conclusion is the correct one. Eliminative materialism is cope, I agree with it. But there are other solutions. Orch OR, for one. But even souls existing does not prove God.
>Universal moral law
Societies that accept murder do not survive. Furthermore, all ethnic groups share common heritage

>>508008630 (OP)
christ is cope.

>>508015386
Time doesn't exist. It's a man made concept.

>>508011967
You are literally the 120 IQ midwit that this meme is making fun of

>>508010415
Pain and suffering are quite loud and demands attention. Love and kindness are humble and quiet like a kiss or the gentle caressing of a mother. There is a lot of love in this world if you look for it. Whether or not you attribute it to god is another matter.

>>508008630 (OP)
Show me the arguments that support your Jewish desert genie specifically.

Christ is King!

>>508008630 (OP)
Let’s break this down.
1. You're so fucking stupid.
2. Atheism is not believing in any gods. That has nothing to do with any unrelated maths or science.
3. You post all the debunked 'gods of the gaps' nonsense like it doesn't even embarrass you.
4. Are you really an atheist larper pretending to be this bone-jarringly retarded?