If blacks are so "stupid" then how were they able to create the most mathematically complex genre of music known to man?

Jazz helps plants grow btw.

>>508084770 (OP)
Jazz degenerates your mind, that is why jew rats put niggers on the stage

https://youtu.be/f7MQTKaneyE

>>508084770 (OP)
the most mathematically complex genre of music is technically Plutonium Jazz

Jazz or "joss" as it used to be called, descends from white riverboat bands who the negros heard playing when they ported.

Willie Ruff, a Black music historian and master jazz musician, wrote a whole book about how American black music descends ultimately from the Scots-Irish who taught them their musical traditions in church.

Back in Africa they just yelled and beat on drums with no sense of rhythm.

>>508084770 (OP)
Because those were suburban blacks. One tenth of them, hates and targeted by the other nine. NIGGERS are the other nine.

>>508084770 (OP)
Jazz is degenerate.

>>508084770 (OP)
>>508084770 (OP)
jazz is random unorganized noise

it is spontaneous and random reflecting the mood swings of a chimp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGoAtIfVQiA

This is actual nigger music. It's just clapping and chanting. There is no diatonic scale and no harmony. All of that they learned from the White man. They're a bit better than american indians because they are keeping a 4/4 beat with a bit of syncopation, but that's it. All of the choral music and percussion music you automatically associate with africa because you've watched too much jewish television is a total retcon. Native nigger music never sounded like that.

>>508084770 (OP)
Your ears are full of jizz.

>>508084770 (OP)
Blacks didn't create prog rock.

>>508084770 (OP)
white man Adolphe Sax invented the Saxaphone.

>>508084770 (OP)
Jazz is literally just random notes, and then "music theory" is playing connect the dots.

>>508086816
>jazz is random unorganized noise
>
>it is spontaneous and random reflecting the mood swings of a chimp

Only to the uneducated ear. If that's true, then you'd be easily able to create a jazz album right now.

Don't let your hate blind you to the strengths of your enemy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6He0MWKJvk
Here's more authentic nigger music. Again, pentatonic scale and monophony. The guy dinging the bell can't even stay in time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXlHHxhf_Rc
Modern choral nigmusic like this did not exist before the White man showed the nigger what a major third was.

>>508086816
>unorganized noise
it's more like taking a semirandom walk up and down a jewy jazz scale

the most palatable jazz music was played by white pianists bill evans and chick corea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10QOOvxw0uA

>>508087090
He's partially right. I don't deny the skill and talent that Jazz musicians have, but it's very unstructured and "anything goes". It's not mathematical at all. It's more intuitive, all about the improv and knowing how to make mistakes sound good.

>>508084770 (OP)
BEEP BEEP BOOOPITY BOPPPOTITY
NIGGA GO HAM ON DAT DRUM
DUNG DUNG TISH DUNG DUNG TISH
BEEP BOOPPITY BOP BOP BOP BOPPOTTIY BEEP BEP
DUNG DNG TISH DUNG DUN TISH
BEEP BOOP BEEEEEPITY BOOOP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Wow. So mathematically complex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_y2GhwMKRY
t. Alto Sax player

>>508087650
>but it's very unstructured and "anything goes".

It is NOT anything goes. Some of the most complex jazz makes extremely heavy use of music theory.

This is an extremely brisk dismissal of one of the more complex forms of music.

Mock it if you wish, but you only expose your own ignorance.

Why not criticize blacks about their limited contributions to mathematics and science instead of trying to rake them over the coals on one of their strengths?

>>508087772
Chill out dude. I like jazz and one a few of my favourite musicians are black. Why are you so sensitive? Just pointing out that your premise is incorrect.

>>508087302
That first video is complex as hell, you're just jealous.
You have no proof for your claims regarding the second video. Stop being a jealous bitch.
Like who the hell listens to German oompa loompa music anyway?

ARE YOU NOT PLAYING MY BEEPITY BOPITY NIGGER MUSIC ON TEMPO YOU FUCKING CHUD??!!

How come black people can't into metal?

>>508088305
Black made metal kid...

>>508086816
Nope. Jazz and Funk have very specific genre conventions. It isnt like an orchestral score; that shit requires methodical planning and oversight as well as holistic vision. But that being said, they absolutely have virtuoso performers and genre pushing technicians. If you think Jazz is random noise, you're missing the forest through the trees, because it's often an improvisational genre that requires an extreme amount of rigor as well as a deep understanding of musicality. Can some people do it innately? Sure, but they're extreme outliers. I bet you couldnt even clap in 11/8, let alone improve an atypical arpeggio in an obscure key. But that still isnt half as impressive as like Chopin, for instance.

>>508086920
Prog rock is only mid complexity. The new djent adjacent ultratechnical mathy stuff that is less dillinger escape plan and more animals as leaders meets mick gordon with a jazz interlude is top tier. Not in complexity, that goes to unlistenable postmodern antimusic, but in terms of actually good shit. Like Mohini Dey and Fernando Molinari.

>>508087650
Eh, apples and oranges. 99.9% of all music shouldnt be described as mathematical. Meshuggah? Sure, but if your music is described as mathematical you're missing the point a lot of the time.

>>508088443
Lol

Les Paul, but I enjoy your chart very racis

However much you might like jazz, you must admit at least one thing: it is NOT intelligently designed. It's basically just random.

>>508088443
Whoa, I didn't know Blacks invented the guitar, the bass, the piano, the horn, the fiddle......

>>508088520
>However much you might like jazz, you must admit at least one thing: it is NOT intelligently designed. It's basically just random.

It is NOT. If that was true, any random person could make a hit jazz album, when that is far from true.

It can be more complex than many forms of music, so to the untrained ear you cannot extract any form of structure from it.

This thread is stupid. It's like saying anyone can play basketball in the NBA because it's just tossing a ball around randomly.

>>508088516
Les learn under the great Robert Johnson retarded

>>508086093
Just because Africans play most music in 6/8 doesn't mean they lack a sense of rhythm.

>>508088628
we made that shit great and better faggot...next time you see a black playing an instrument thank them

>>508084968
Faggot detected

>>508088690
this nigger right here is full of shit...

>>508088640
Any jazz I've ever heard sounds completely random, like they're literally making it up as they go along.

>>508086821
It's in 6/8, not 4/4

>>508088640
>Jazz
It's just crap random noises niggers make to imitate music.

>>508084770 (OP)
playing random notes = complex ?

>>508088775
>Any jazz I've ever heard sounds completely random, like they're literally making it up as they go along.

Any advanced physics I've ever read on a chalkboard looks like random letters, like they're simply making it up as they go along.

Can't anyone scribble letters and numbers on a chalkboard?

>>508088775
But who are you and what do you know about music? I bet you dont even know basic chord progressions, or even the different types of scales and modes.

>>508084770 (OP)
The most mathematically complex genre of music is classical music you kike

>>508088759
Just because you're retarded doesn't mean I'm full of shit. Look at rhythms played on the djembe. It's usually in 6/8 or 3/4.

>>508088841
False equivalence. Just listen to jazz - anyone can do that. I swear I can make impromptu jazz in my head that sounds just as goo as anything else. Not even necessary knocking the genre, but it's random as hell.

>>508088927
just admit you are not talented with music and I will forgive you for being retarded

>>508087047
>Jazz is literally just random notes, and then "music theory" is playing connect the dots.
This guy gets it

>>508089036
4 post by this one and his godlike complex

>>508088867
idk

>>508089036
>Just listen to jazz - anyone can do that.

OK, then release an award winning jazz album today where you play at least one of the instruments. Since it's just random notes, it should be really easy for you.

>>508088927
JUST LOOK AT THE OOGA BOOGA BONGO BONGO IT'S MATHEMATICALLY COMPLEX

kys

>>508084770 (OP)
>mathematically complex
>music
how many levels of pseud do you have to be on to care about that shit?

Rec me some jazz music. Even the crazy shit. I can handle it.

>>508089137
Jazz faggots are worse than cyclists

>>508088443
We wuz Beethoven

>>508089036
Prove it. Download fruity loops and show us some jazz.

>>508087772
"Music theory" is complete bullshit.
There are only a few intervals that sound harmonic and only a few ways to combine them.
Anything else is retards who can't into physics and math inventing absolute batshit terminology.

>>508088730
Name 3 (Three) Black metal guitarists that aren't Jimi Hendrix, Rocky George and Vernon Reid

>>508088443
"Cool" is not a music genre, kiddo.
(Even if we, for the sake of argument, concede that "music genre" is even a valid ontological category.)

>>508084770 (OP)
>mathematically complex
Ya know what else is 'mathematically complex'? A slum in Kinshasa. Doesn't mean those who built it are fucking mathematicians.
>>508088443
Kek all that music fucking sucks.

>>508088488
Prog Rock follows in the footsteps of the ultimate art music, classical music, melodic and with soul unlike retarded technical masturbation like djent. That isn't to say some prog rock doesn't do the same but I don't consider them real prog

>>508088640
>any random person could make a hit jazz album
Exactly. Felonious Monk exists and proves it's possible as long as Rotschild women and BBCs are involved. (No musical talent was harmed in the making.)

>>508089226
While not crazy, I'm listening to Change Your Mind by Larnell Lewis right now. Maybe more prog? Meh, close enough.

>>508089480
Mike Smith and Terrence Hobbs from Suffocation. Also, Tosin. Do I win a prize?

>>508086821
Lol.
Sounds like traditional Estonian music.

>>508087861
Niggerlover

>>508089682
Oh my point was the contemporary stuff in the last 4 or 5 years has hit a distinctly awesome stride and become actually listenable, even if it has some djent going on in the background.

Play 3 chords for 30k people or play 30k chords for 30 people. Society is basically filled with dimwits who like dimwit music.

>>508089915
Prog is nice I'll give that a listen. Thanks.

why you whyte boi so fukken racist...black took your so-called music and made it better. now go enjoy listening to some Jazz

>>508084770 (OP)
Give a monkey a typewriter and enough time and you'll be reading Shakespeare.

Also, you misspelled "jizz'

>>508089226
Idk I like boring stuff, Night Lights (mulligan), Idle Moments (grant green), My Favorite Things (coltrane) and Lament (chet baker) are the last 4 jazz tracks I've listened to randomly

>>508087965
>That first video is complex as hell, you're just jealous.
no one is jealous of niggers beating on empty gourds. i can do the same fuckin thing at my desk
and it's not complex at all. everyone in the percussion section is just playing a 2 bar pattern on repeat for 3 minutes before they get bored and stop. it's literal kindergarten shit

>>508090535
If you give 10,000,000 monkeys a typewriter at 40 wpm it would take them 10^19891 years for them to hit 120,000 characters in romeo and juliette in a row.

>>508090135
Really great contribution to the discussion, cleetus.

>>508084770 (OP)
To understand black achievement, you have to understand the Bell Curve; which states that most blacks are one standard deviation dumber than most white, a good half are dipping into literal retardation if not already there, but that many hundreds of thousands are as intelligent as an average white, and a tiny tiny percentage are geniuses. That tiny percentage of geniuses gives us a Charlie Parker or a James Baldwin or a Thomas Sowell. And black men like that should justly and deservedly be celebrated. But it says nothing about the great mass of blacks, who are simply a social sore and irredeemable genetic trash.

>>508089226
The Modern Jazz Quarter.
Anthony Braxton.

>>508086093
Kill yourself lying cracker kike

>>508084770 (OP)
Most "mathematically complex" jazz is free improvisation, it's an ego trip circlejerk of who can sound the least accessible to the public, there is not much intellect behind it at all, just 'feelings' that translate into semi-random notes. Those with true talent like Oscar Peterson were doing nothing special but were just mechanically gifted and passionate, while ironically chastised by pseuds like yourself for not being subversive enough. But no, good jazz doesn't require mathematical genius

>>508092079
cope

>>508089855
Thelonious monk was one of the greatest pianists who ever lived you pseud

>>508091817
This guy gets it

All the jazz haters are a bunch of faggots who've never touched a woman or a real instrument in their lives in this thread. First let's define jazz: a syncopated improvisational dance music born out of classical and folk through ragtimes earlier synthesis. A military surplus after the Spanish American war led to many instruments ending up in the hands of poor negros, though obviously Buddy Bolden, the first King of Cornet played earlier having claimed to invent jazz in 1895. Jelly Roll Morton first published in 1905 after twenty years of ragtime sheet music. Bolden went nuts, King Keppard went to LA and didn't want to record lest his licks be stolen, Original Dixieland Jass Band did record but in a gaspipey vaudeville style, King Oliver went to Chicago, summoned Louis Armstrong and in 1923 Dippermouth Blues was recorded. Since then no musician worldwide has been untouched by Pops' playing the changes, the first recorded "true" improvisor, as he did more than dance around the melody
Coleman Hawkins learned a lot and changed saxophone playing much more than say Rudy Wiedoeft. The advent of the electrical recording process was the next major game changer as it allowed tuba and 4 string banjo to be replaced by standup bass and guitar. There we have Eddie Lang, Lonnie Johnson, Steve Brown, Roy Smeck etc.. helping push stringed instruments into new territory. Meanwhile Cliff Edwards, future vice of Jiminy Cricket, was pioneering scat singing and ukulele around the time Potato Head Blues was recorded by Pops' Hot Five. I highly recommend the compilation That Devilin' Tune, and if you have a soul, you will agree that jazz music is best from 1925 to 1943. Commercialized symphonic heavily arranged bib band swing had all the life force sucked our of the 4/4 rhythm lovingly bestowed on us by Fletcher Henderson, Bennie Moren, Duke Ellington and bebop and whatever came after is tuneless garbage not fit to be called jazz but it had to happen. Like architecture, soulless after WW2

>>508090717
No one listens to German music outside of Oktoberfest, not even Germans.

It was created by white Americans and given to sing to blacks oit of pity

>>508093512
mr niggerloving dipshit, 3/4ths of all classical music was written by Germans. Classical music might as well be called German music.

>No one listens to German music
yeah you're a jew and you like niggers, i get it
but not too long ago, american people still did enjoy european folk music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d5_lJ2fTLA

Jazz is faggot music.

>>508086093
>Ruff was known for uncovering links between traditional black gospel music and unaccompanied psalm singing. Ruff's theory was that the Scottish Presbyterian practice of lining out – in which a precentor read or chanted a line of the psalm, which was then sung by the congregation – led to the call and response form of black gospel music.[13] Ruff co-created the documentary "A Conjoining of Ancient Song", which focuses on a rapidly vanishing form of congregational singing that is shared by Scottish, African American, and Native American music.[14] It received its world premiere screening at Yale in 2013.[15] Ruff's work in this area was also a subject of Sterlin Harjo's 2014 documentary film, This May Be the Last Time.[16]

>>508094035
Beethoven was of Moorish descent.
Also no one listens to """classical""" aside from jackoffs. I will give it kudos to also being a highly complex form of music, almost as great as jazz.

Also where's a web link that I can report you to your government for racism and antisemitism?

>>508088488

yes, many great black guitarists, pianists, etc.
any great black conductor?
serious question, i'm interested.

>>508084770 (OP)
math definitely factored into jazz

>>508084770 (OP)
>you have to know math to huff paint thinner and toot into a horn
hmm

>>508092651
>"Thelonious monk was one of the greatest pianists who ever lived you pseud"
This is an 18+ site, kiddo.

>>508084770 (OP)
Rhythm!
Also white folks can't dance....

Jazz with odd timing was pioneered by Dave Brubeck after he toured EE and the middle east and was exposed to new musical ideas

>>508084770 (OP)

Based. Jazz is for grown-ups.

he 2nd comment I was going to make got eaten by a dead battery but this stride piano recording is worth a million words.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGU1va3a6LE

Jazz is literally just western harmony with some swing and syncopation. You play a romantic composer like chopin with some swing and you suddenly got jazz.
Improv was common in classical/baroque/romantic eras as well

>>508094555
>Also no one listens to """classical""" aside from jackoffs
Correct, niggers are allergic to real music in the same way yids are allergic to crucifixes.

>>508094959
two of these little slutlets are already wearing chokers
one is doing the hip stance with the head tilt
I'll graciously overlook the one with the tongue out, she probably doesn't know what she's doing (yet)

>>508095451
Improv is common among stoners who can't remember the song

>>508095038
> the primates who invented "twerking" are accusing us of not being able to dance
Kek and sneed.

>>508094959
If I must

>>508095451
Jelly Roll Morton said "jazz is a style, not a genre".

>>508089060
Why would i need forgiveness from a subhuman mongoloid such as yourself?

>>508089157
if you died, absolutely no one would care. You have no one special in your life. If this anime site went away for good, you would be at the Rope & Stool store.

>>508084770 (OP)

>talks about music for junkies that sounds absolutely shite because their all out of their tits on heroin


Meh!

>>508096057
indeed, it's part of what is called the popular style
>>508091817
indeed, those are worthy of being called black men or african americans or whatever they prefer (i would prefer to call them by their individual name)
and I bet they hate nigger behavior (which is just the same as gypsy behavior, as skin color has no bearing on it) just as any white male exposed to it

>>508084770 (OP)
blacks created the modern drum set and back beat rhythm during the Jazz era, without this you don't get modern music existence

>>508087302
Always liked how mutts in Latin America are way more mixed than negros in the states yet the music sounds way more African the Benin bell rhythm sounds just like some Brazilian funk

>>508084770 (OP)
They are more stupid on average. That doesnt mean there arent capable niggers. Besides, niggers only know how to play because slave masters wanted some entertainment with their dinner so they would have them classically trained.

If black people were so musically talented back then why does their current music sound like some sort of African tribal war chant? While white people music is still sonorous singing about spirituality and relationships and stuff just like it was 100 years ago?

>>508095451
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-k94L3JUDA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j8n-UvFtyGQ

>>508086821
>There is no diatonic scale and no harmony.
There's the scale, the harmony and it's in the key. You can tell because the elements are consistent at every repetition
>4/4
OK so you can't really play an instrument
>>508088780
It's not 6/8 but idk what it is. I thought 7/8 but maybe 10/8 idk

>>508095451
What jazz tunes can you play

>>508096860
>without this you don't get modern music existence
Shieet, so that's who ruined music in the 20th century??
Niggers and Jews, man.

>>508084770 (OP)
Parrots can make music. No one considers them to be geniuses. Still have IQs in the 50s.

>>508087861
>Why are you so sensitive? Just pointing out that your premise is incorrect.
Cause OP didn't come here to discuss Jazz and blacks roles in it, he came here to browbeat and shame people by using music as his cudgel
He's a disingenuous kike shill

>>508084770 (OP)
>mathematically complex
>jazz
lol

>>508097938
Exactly
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/YKUDpCU0wSs
Without even changing the notes you can turn anything into jazz. Adding chord extensions and some subs can take you the rest of the way. Visaversa is true as well to go from jazz to baroque/classical/romantic though a little more complex to get the full picture
>>508098244
Not even good at jazz but currently putting someday my prince will come in all 12 keys. Besides that just some basics like fly me to the moon, autumn leaves, my favorite things

>>508084770 (OP)
Yes, breathing on plants helps them grow, I’m glad to see the pajeets are able to find science videos from 2004

>>508087772
>reddit spacing

>>508097618
There is no equivalent of "pet sounds" coming from modern white pop star at all
>>508099248
I just said the style of drumming desu all music incorporates a drum set now

>>508101167
Another great example
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H4i7BIGXRcc

>>508102402
And in the comments here is one of the most erudite discussions related to the musical origins of a song variously called The Dream or The Crave. The Spanish habanera was an equal influence on Stride pianists as James P. Johnson as it was on Jelly Roll who said what separated Jazz from Ragtime and Blues is the "Spanish Tinge".

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EEXkSBCuwyQ

>>508084770 (OP)
This is now a /pol/ music thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Y1s_Y9dWQ

Chuck Mangione mogs all the jazz-niggers ITT

>>508087772
>incredibly
I can almost hear you bouncing on a dildo when you type like this bro

>>508097618
>If black people were so musically talented back then
They weren't

>>508084770 (OP)
Holy shit one guy playing a saxophone. Beethoven eternally btfod.

What a stupid OP.
And the OP knows it.

>>508088867
This. Thread ended.

>>508084968
fpbp

Also: jazz is not music, but purely intuitive droning. Mathematically complex music with corresponding dynamics comes from Europe, if you want to listen to really well-calculated music, I recommend works by Johann Sebastian Bach. This music can renew your brain cells, boost your well-being and soothe your mind, while at the same time spurring you on to great deeds and perhaps even curing your cancer.

>>508098156
I counted it as 1 2 3 4 - 6a. The "a" sounds swung. I could be wrong but counting like that lined up consistently

>>508107560
Normie take

>>508101167
What classical tunes can you play

>>508102137
People also don't do lsd anymore. That combined with jewish subversion ruined music.

>>508107963
After a nap and your comment I revisited it.
You did count right but it's not 6/8 because the accents don't match, it's actually 3/4

>>508107560
Jazz uses more complex ratios therefore complex math

>>508086093
This anon is correct .
ALL MUSIC, including complex music like Classical or Jazz,
has been invented by white musicians.

>what is DEI, diversity niggers

youtu.be/DJbxx6pefIY

>>508088443
We wuz Beethooieven and shieet.

ALL MUSIC, including complex music like Classical or Jazz,
has been invented by white musicians.

>what is DEI, diversity niggers

>>508109205
Ahhh makes sense because the last note felt off. I always get those sigs mixed up

>>508084770 (OP)
And we get your women. Stay mad Timmy.

>>508084770 (OP)
they took classical instruments and played them incorrectly
>omg the math is over our heads!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fMrPxikVaEu1

>>508084968
I love classical but you're a faggot for linking this AI slop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVQ__JoapwQ

Jazz is high IQ in terms of sound and rhythm, when a negroe played jazz he needed to improvise on the spot and keep the same tempo but that doesn't mean he was eloquent in speak or any intelligent with space or math, he simply "booped".
Some people are highly intelligent in maths, shapes and abstract ideas but cannot read a room or cook an egg, they are socially and functionally retarded.
There's various combinations, in the case of africans they are frankly quite intelligent in terms of rhythm but retarded in all fronts, even in the general sound area because they cannot mimic accents or voices even as a joke.

>>508084770 (OP)
Niggers LITERALLY don't know the difference between a router and a modem. No joke.
They're basically women.

>>508109717
Plenty of talented black people out there making music. But claiming they INVENTED Jazz out of thin air is ahistorical and untrue.

Delta Blues has a much more solid claim to being 'black.' And even that follows the stylistic cues set by Scots-Irish call and return hymns.

>>508110013
6/8 is 123 123 and 3/4 is obviously = 6/8 but 12 12 12.
Just remember one 6/8 tune and you'll never get it wrong again

>>508110235
I can accurately do a caricaturized impression of any accent around the world, except for the balkan accent. I just can't do it for the life of me it just sounds like Dracula

>>508088668
Which became talented after selling his soul at the crossroads. They even made a movie about.

>>508108348
Done a few chopin waltzes, etudes, and nocturnes over the years. Gotta relearn pretty much all of them. Chopin ballade 3 is probably the hardest ive learned

>>508084968
The math was all ascribed to it afterwards by white people. The jazz negroes weren't thinking
>Bix nood nigga finna play the semitone of the second harmonic of G minor and then.... Yes, the tonic triad in D, how mathematically elegant, sheeeeeit!
They were just playing how they felt. If you told me someone like Jelly Roll didn't know what the notes were called I'd believe you.

>>508084770 (OP)
>mathematically complex

It’s just noise and that’s their specialty

I like jazz btw

>>508084770 (OP)
The premise is already wrong first of all what does mathematic even mean when it comes to music, second of all how would Classical Music not be inherently more mathematic, midwits get saged

>>508084770 (OP)
Blacks and cops are both really stupid and only either one worshiped by dudes you could call a bitch front of their old ladies and they wouldn't do jack all shit because you wimps are all talk.

>>508088690
Noone ever said niggers have no rhythm lmao, niggers have no melody

>>508084770 (OP)
First off, classical is better for plants. Second, while the all time greats of jazz have a high percentage of niggers, I would argue that the overwhelming majority of high level jazz players in the world are white men.
I will now listen to your idiotic response.

>>508092079
You realize black culture cannot exist without the white man right? Lol who do you think invented Basketball, Versace, Gucci, Nike, Adidas, MPC3000, microphone, piano, Sample machines, Antares Autotune, reverb and chorus effects, equalizers, compressors. Microphones, Vinyl,CD,DVD, KFC. Literally all from the white man except autotune which was a collab with the japanese. Hell even crack was invented by whites

>>508088488
Dillinger Escape Plan is good

>>508111078
Ever heard of stevie wonder? Retard lmao

>>508110651
Well your Jazz tunes aren't really Jazz, Autumn Leaves is a French semi-traditional and Fly Me to the Moon uses the harmony that's too plain and obvious but my point is that Jazz harmony and Classical are not the same thing, you'll see as you progress. Can't comment on "My Prince Will Come" because I've heard of it but never played it, I've probably heard it but didn't remember it.
As for your other comment, "Just swing it bro" well, you do have a point but first, how come nobody did it for 600 years if it's so simple and second, it's like saying "Just play an Iron Maiden song on an acoustic with full barre chords and rasquado and sing in Spanish and it sounds like Mexican music therefore Mexican music came from Metal"

>>508087090
Niggers are totally incompetent. That's how they became our enemy. That's why you shills try pull strawman arguments. You think you can just suggest something and we'll just pretend it's true. That means you expect us to have the willpower of a schoolchild whose teacher won't stop busting his balls. That means you can't imagine a world where man is anything but a buck-broken schoolchild. That tells me that you are a buck-broken schoolchild who still naively believes that schlomo is saving some porridge for you if you're a good goy. Schlomo hates you and he already gave the porridge to that fat nigger bitch who's always yelling at you. Schlomo and all your other jewish overseers hate you and will never give you anything. Stop working for the kikes. Get a real job. If you shills all got up and quit at once, the kikes would have to start paying you a wage comparable to that of law enforcements. You're going to try that and find the jeets sabotaging your plan by being fine with working for pennies, and you're going to wonder if socio-economic circumstances can truly make someone as retarded and evil as the jeets. Then maybe you'll finally realize *why* we FUCKING HATE NIGGERS AND KIKES.

>>508111457
Midwits think a single outlier automatically destroys a rule. Sure you had hendrix you had stevie but generally whites dominate melody and niggers dominate rhythm. Just listen to Playboi Carti lmao, or is Kanye the only nigger left capable of melody?

>>508110745
>I studied music theory for years and I'm mediocre and this Morton just played it just like that, he couldn't even read sheet lol what a dumb nigger
Based blind hatred racist

>>508084770 (OP)
Yank-level intellect. Disregard.

>>508111574
All musicians are outliers. Nobody can play instruments or sing nowadays

>>508111574
>American pop is the measure of the world
Look what the Jews turned you into

>>508111765
If only the mutt could be aware of its own innate retardation for a mere split second, ofcourse it would then immediatelly kill itself

>>508111779
Cope non argument, if you only listen to hiphop and edm then sure lol

>>508111799
I never mentioned anything like that retard, besides your nation never made music worth listening too lets be real, my nation literally dominated EDM internationally

>>508088305
Sleep theory is kinda heavy and has a nigger lead singer it's not bad

>>508111916
>your nation never made music worth listening too
>Who is Baby Lasagna
As I said, ameripopslop is your god
>my nation literally dominated EDM internationally
I've never heard of any notable Dutch artist but I bet your songs sound hilarious
>Oob gvaar kanker tloop dood lalala

This bread proves /pol/ will argue about anything.

>>508084968
It's true because Jazz has little to no form like a nigger.
The form niggers aspire to be is a niggerized version of a White person.
It's a no wonder they sell each other to nigger jews because they worship mutt niggerdom, as sub humans, looking at humanity, from the outside & wanting to be included, as their nigger juden, slave masters, partially have been.

>>508084770 (OP)
niggers can appreciate rhythm
probably something to do with slavery
like basketball is something to do with chucking spears, theres always a biological reason

>>508111866
>generally whites dominate melody and niggers dominate rhythm
The world just isn't that simple. There's plenty of both white and black musicians that do both.

>>508084770 (OP)
>to create the most mathematically complex genre of music known to man?
There were no niggers in the Baroque era, pal.

>>508111779
Seriously?
There 10yr old little Japanese girls on youtube that can shred on guitar. There's certainly more people today that know how to play an instrument than there ever has been in world history.

>>508084770 (OP)
Imagine the jazz that plants could play if they occupied all the bodies of niggers.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers meets Whiplash, with no 'I dint do noffin'.

I love the blues, but every jazz and blues musician I've ever heard of has been a literal piece of human garbage.

>>508098156
no one cares about music math except music academics. everyone with ears knows african and american native music is awful and only becomes tolerable with heavy influence from white music.

>>508086186
Lmfao how is that? I dnt think so

The only problem with jazz is there’s great jazz and unlistenable types of it also

>>508109324
>be me
>play jazz and blues
>never learn theory
>dont even use sheet music
>still sounds good
It's only complex if you don't understand it intuitively

>>508112948
not improvise though

>>508111478
> my point is that Jazz harmony and Classical are not the same thing

I didn't claim that they're the same thing, I was claiming that jazz harmony is derived from western harmony. Is it not are there afro elements?

> As for your other comment, "Just swing it bro" well, you do have a point but first, how come nobody did it for 600 years

Well yeah its more than that, its swing, combined with jazz harmony (substitutions and extensions), combined with improv, instruments,... If you swing on a classical piece it's "somewhat" jazzy but only part of the way there. if you add jazz harmony it's even closer. Jazz is in degrees and can be applied to harmony, melody, rhythm, form, instruments... whatever

>>508113714
Honestly Jazz is for people who like shit & farting
sounds.
Who are those people?

>>508087014
>white man Adolphe Sax invented the Saxaphone.
Does that make it an Anglo-Saxonphone? kek

>>508113732
Improving in jazz isn't all that difficult.
Improv jazz musicians are about as hack as hack gets. If you knew anything about music you'd know that.

>>508113888
Harmony itself has been studied since Mesopotamia. European Classical was/is the most elaborate but to invalidate any invention that builds on it is to invalidate European music because it built on the music of others.

>>508084770 (OP)
> *blasts random notes with no rhythm*
> What is this new beautiful math!?

>>508086093
>Back in Africa they just yelled and beat on drums with no sense of rhythm.

>>508114356
I understand that Jazz is supposed to be quirky & to supposedly intriguing that and from the Negro man but I actually like it when people make music with a Sax.
Not fart in it all the time like some nigger.
That is one genre of music that hasn't grown on me much.
It's literally Zoomer skibbitybobedo broccoli head nigger shit.
It's like a nigger mutts version of singing in the rain & whistling while they work.

>>508114769
You can get music in jazz. Charlie Parker is great for it. Actual music for human beings.

>>508112948
There are studies on this. The number of people who can play instruments has dropped from like 70% down to 5%.
You have to be retarded to say that some random people on youtube is evidence of a trend.

>>508086821
this shit fuckin sucks

>>508110745
Retarded take. The great Ferdinand Morto was classically trained. I posted him playing opera. He was a creole of color, not a nigger. Now the great negro pianist Donald Lambert who I also posted had such a photographic memory, though unable to read sheet music, he could play classical pieces note for note.

>>508114265
Im not invalidating or denigrating it, I'm arguing that its more fundamentally a european style than it is African. Maybe a case could be made that had there been no blacks in America then they would've never combined the different components to create jazz. Which could be true

>>508086093
>Back in Africa they just yelled and beat on drums with no sense of rhythm.

Rap is that old?

>>508084770 (OP)
>most mathematically complex genre of music known to man
nah peep this shit
https://youtu.be/4mmn7siswJY?si=pkQCmrOP215TtmrA

>>508084770 (OP)
Jews created jazz and it’s heavily influenced by late romantic music

>>508112948
When I was a teenager 15 years ago everyone played guitar, because everyone listened to guitar. All the zoomers grew up listening to draincore mumble rap like Bladee and Sematery, at best SOME of them know how to use Ableton.

>>508112495
Never heard of AABA faggot? 32 bar popular form 90% of jazz standards are composed in the form of. Of course no one has brought up Tin Pan Alley, Broadway or Jews yet or how gangsters controlled the sheet music publishing and record recording industries. Or how the household jazz names were all freemasons.

>>508087772
Music theory is mostly post hoc rationalization done by dorks asking why something sounds "good". Jazz is really only complex (theory wise) because of the more free form/improv nature of it, which naturally doesn't fit as neatly into music theory as something simpler.

>>508114954
I like what people did with the Sax in the 70's & the 80's.
It's a support piece for a greater sound & at times the icing of the cake.
Like INXS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIBv2GEnXlc&list=RDAIBv2GEnXlc&start_radio=1

>>508089480
Olly Steele, Joshua Travis, Tosin Abasi

>>508114207
This they are just playing scales over a drumbeat
Jews invented jazz and was the first nigger psyop to push integration

>>508115071
>The great Ferdinand Morto was classically trained.
No he fucking wasn't. That's why I chose him for that example, because of his great success from a young age without any formal training. He learned by ear.

>>508115095
>Maybe a case could be made that had there been no blacks in America then they would've never combined the different components to create jazz. Which could be true
It's true but there are also cases to be made that if there were no blacks (or Arabs or the Chinese etc) then whites would never find their way out of the confinements of the classical practice, that if there were no Arabs there'd be no Spanish guitar and without Hawaiians country would never have pedal steel but I'm telling you that's the wrong approach because music doesn't evolve in a vacuum. Blacks in South America play Bossa Nova, would all that SA music happen by just playing Classical harmony ?
As much as other musics were influenced by European Classical theory, the same goes the other way, that's my point.

>>508096529
You sound upset you little pussy, gonna cry?

>>508114207
>>508115670
Retards who know much less about music than they think they do.
"Just playing scales" doesn't work. That's like saying writing a novel is "just writing a bunch of letters." You literally don't know what you don't know lmao

>>508086093
>Jazz or "joss"
Wrong from the get go. It was called Jass, dumbass.

>>508115694
Nah that’s stupid because new technology always leads to innovation

>>508111488
Ultra based hitler digits. I kneel.

>>508110415
I hear the phrasing now. Thanks for pointing that out

>>508111078
The retardanon I replied to said that
>>508086093
>Back in Africa they just yelled and beat on drums with no sense of rhythm.

>>508111488
HH
>>508111916
Here is some good old school if you like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeRFhmOUNCo

>>508115972
>Be Europeans
>For a 1000 years never made the syncopation into a style
>Never play 1 chord as the dom 7
>Never use minor tonality over a major progression
>But they'd totally figure it out in the 20th century
It would maybe take another 500 years
>>508115994
Rhythm is harder than the harmony and melody once you leave the steady 4/4, 3/4 and other standard signatures.
Even in pop music one odd bar can throw you off for a while.

>>508114430
Hey buddy. Today Africa has a great music scene. I am a big fan of the rail band. Have been since forever.

But hundreds of years ago things were different there in the darkest parts of Africa, rhythm was not known as far as the earliest accounts go. Patterns would denote certain messages, music was as much about speaking in code than keeping a beat or making a melody.

Lots of people had shit music until the Germans showed them how to make good music, even Whites. So don't feel bad.

>>508114265
The Greeks, Pythagoreans specifically, invented Temperament.
Which is literally the basis of ALL Western music, from Bach to The Beatles and even including niggerjazz.

>>508115164
Rap is Scottish actually lol.

Jazz is improvised, and normally sounds like shit due to chord autism

>>508110745
None of that would have any bearing on what the music sounds like even if it was true so it isn't much of a criticism. This kind of belief is why people think talentless hacks like Jacob Collier are 'great musicians' because they know a lot of technical information while making unlistenable tasteless crap.

>>508111093
Plants also like extreme genres of metal.


>>508112495
>Jazz has little to no form
Objectively wrong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtiCO51snU4

>>508115852
It’s pretty obvious Jews came up with jazz and trained a very select few nogs to play it and signal boosted them with there media controls to push the integration agenda
The 20 century was pretty much Jews pushing an agenda

>>508089036
Nah you need to know some set of standards, which is much of what is played, or at least the important bits. Certain standardized progressions and things. Then you can let her rip. Still good jazz is like all good music, it takes skill and practice and talent to make. Not all famous jazz is necessarily good. Coltrane? You can have him for the most part. I respect what he does but it's not pleasant to my ear.

>>508084770 (OP)
>then how were they able to create the most mathematically complex genre of music known to man?
It's typically just random noises with everyone kind of improving.

>>508116877
lol, so your explanation is not that Blacks were good musicians but somehow jews were so amazingly smart that they taught blacks to be amazing?
Your ideas don't make any sense

>>508115694
> It's true but there are also cases to be made that if there were no blacks (or Arabs or the Chinese etc) then whites would never find their way out of the confinements of the classical practice

sure, it probably would've developed differently. Im not sure I'd paint it as the blacks (or whoever) "freeing whites from the classical plantation" though. Maybe without black intervention wed have something better than mumble rapping now, maybe not. Also, there's huge developments from baroque->impressionistic harmony, jazz harmony was somewhat the next logical step

The same is true with bossa nova and other SA styles, its just a fork from western classical influenced by the black culture in the location, if there were no blacks it wouldve become something else, maybe something better maybe worse.

I dont think we're really disagreeing about anything

>>508116535
Your ignoring the fact that music in the 20th century developed out of new technology prior to radio, records, and amplification you needed large groups of musicians to creat music loud enough it could be enjoyed by large crowds before that it was parlor music in peoples homes or a large performance at a music hall
Jazz existed because of radio and the record and small clubs for live gigs that revolved around drinking

>>508087090
Thanks, Jane Goodall. I thought you were dead.

>>508114430
I'm sorry Africanon. Most people in USA don't understand the better among you hate niggers

>>508116640
>The Greeks, Pythagoreans specifically, invented Temperament.
Wrong, Pythagorean tuning is no longer in use because it doesn't work in all the keys. The 12 tet was solved by a Chink btw

>>508117247
We are talking about a tiny hand full of nogs that could played it and black people don’t even like jazz never did
why would they invent something they clearly don’t like
Jazz has Jews written all over it
They were Jewish monkeys
It must hurt you to know the truth

>>508117543
That has nothing to do with anything regarding syncopation and tonality

>>508084770 (OP)
Uhh that would be heavy metal or classical

>>508088520
>However much you might like jazz, you must admit at least one thing: it is NOT intelligently designed. It's basically just random.
Its not random, admittedly it does sound random to untrained ears. Basically the idea of jazz is to be able to play a different scale for each chord. This is why jazz never sounds out of tune but it does sound like unrelated music is being stitched together. Playing like this was cutting edge in the 1920s when jazz was invented and opened up possiblities that we use today. Even if you think music now does not borrowing from jazz, the fact that heavy metal guitar leads can sound so free and unlimited comes from the fact that jazz is part of our musical DNA and allows our ears to accept melodic lines that would never have been accepted before the 1920s.

My personal opinion is that playing chord changes (playing different scales over chord progressions) has gone as far as it can go and jazz musicians need to use their musical knowledge to stay in one scale. Changing scales constantly does make the music sound random and hard to follow. Just to be clear, changing scales is not the same as key changes. Key changes dont happen that often in jazz unless you get into modal jazz or free jazz.

Bach would have loved the extended harmony of jazz, he already was laying the groundwork in his own time. It's too bad most people don't seem to understand the value of both baroque and jazz until they can play both

>>508118049
Jazz sounds like birds fucking and you were psyoped into thinking it’s cool because your not white

>>508118024
Why would it hurt if you say something that makes no sense at all?
You're basically saying that Jews are super geniuses. Jews taught Art Tatum, Coleman Hawkins, Ella Fitzgerald, Charlie Parker, etc.
I mean - these people are so skilled that even if they were taught by someone it makes no difference.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and just sound like a blabbering fool

>>508084770 (OP)
>needed white instruments to do it that were developed for more than half a millennia in europe
Really makes you think.
Classical is peak, rock/metal/heavy metal is modern classical, pleasant ambient jazz is white, black jazz is too chaotic and distracting.
Look up (((who))) wrote their songs and popularized them, (((who))) owned all record labels, Michael Jackson didn't write any of his big hits, it was some britcuck dork, but his managers were of the tribe.

>>508118394
>Npc can’t comprehend anything outside it’s programing
Jazz was a Jewish psyop to push integration of black in a resistant white society
I can’t be anymore clear

>>508093512
>Americanised nigger doesn't know the glory of the polka pit

>>508118719
Bud you sound like the one who is programmed. You clearly know nothing about jazz, it's embarassing

>>508116841
Like is a lot lower on the list than "best for". Plants respond to music. They respond best to classical music. Any more defense of niggers you'd like to do, jew?

>>508084968
Why would you post one of Bach's worst works (a piece so far below par by Bach's standards that scholars doubt whether or not he even composed it in the first place) to prove your point?

Here's an actual Chad keyboard work by Bach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlGrCRyztR8

>>508107560
I was dying from AIDS but I recovered thanks to Bach

>>508084770 (OP)
It's complex because use it's just random made up shit.

>>508095038
Neither can niggers. They just get mocked less for their ridiculous spastic movements than non darkies because we expect better from normal people.

>>508117247
You sound like someone who is easily amazed. The only time a nigger ever amazed me was seeing one do the worm. And he probably roided for that. 60 years of the civil rights act giving free shit to niggers, and all they can do is the worm and bee bop bisk nood.

>>508084770 (OP)
simplicity is way harder to obtain and more valuable than complexity

Imagine caring about nigger shit

>>508089226
>Rec me some jazz music. Even the crazy shit. I can handle it.
dont, if you jump into hard bebop jazz without knowing the theory behind it you'll just hate it more

to understand jazz you have to realize that jazz is just an extension of blues music.
this is Winton Marseilles explaining the basics of the blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AC0T7zrni0

blues is a I-IV-V circle of fifths progression using all dominant 7th chords. Because they are all dominant chords they all have a strong feeling of motion because the follow the circle of fifths. Diatonically (in the scale) only the V chord is dominant, so these brings extra motion to the music. jazz takes this to another level by using the II-V-I progression where all these chords are also 7th chords and follow the circle of fifths. Bear in mind that 7th chords were considered dissonant and it was black people who made all the different kinds of 7th chords sound consonant and become pleasing to the ear

>>508120563
Anyone can snap their fingers one time per five seconds, Kyle.

>>508084770 (OP)
it should be pointed out that not only did blacks invent all forms of modern music in the 20th century in the US, the invented all forms of modern music in Latin America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bTAyQfXwoA

>>508120955
But can you back is the real question. Take your shit back with ya too you can keep it.

>>508120444
How would you know if you don't know anything about Jazz?
lol the number of retards who think they can talk about shit that they know nothing about.

>>508089226
Roy Haynes Quartet - If I should lose you, also check out their version of Fly me to the Moon, as it’s in 3/4
Gene Harris - Blue Bossa (originally in Bossa groove, but they put this in swing feel and made a little tag that gives the melody breathing room, especially in between solos).
Tito Puente’s version of Take 5 is HOT
Chick Corea- Spain
John Scofield- Toogs, A Go Go
Terrence Blanchard - Footprints (originally a Miles tune, but with contemporary beat)
Pat Metheny- Bright Size Life, April Joy
Charlie Parker - Confirmation

>>508089226
If you want some REAL crazy shit, look up “free jazz”, particularly by Ornette Coleman. People think it’s the apex of expression, or a bunch of random noise.

>>508093512
You’re a fag, and your shit’s all retarded

>>508122326
Free Jazz is at least melodic. If you want some real crazy shit look up Cecil Taylor

>>508113714
Only thing that needs to be understood (in music) is tension and release.

>>508084770 (OP)
But it sucks. The only people who listen to jazz are white boomer communists.

>>508115994
6/8 just feels like a slow 4/4.

>>508122326
I tried listening to Ascension by John Coltrane and got massively filtered. It just sounds like straight up random squeaky noises.

>>508104072
>Chuck Mangione mogs all the jazz-niggers ITT
I'll be youve only heard is 'feels so good' album and nothing else he did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jymB8IZl9nk

>>508122499
On it right now, thanks for rec

>>508122767
Coltrane has that signature quack to his sound, his tone is unmistakable. My jazz buddies looked up his shredding solos and arpeggios, only to found out the nigger just runs up and down the pentatonic scale like a poser.

Pssshhhttt... nuthin personnel kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngLxOB-ZNuw

>>508107560
>Bach
Baby's first classical composer. You're like a 12 year old orchestra snob

>>508084770 (OP)
You sound like one of those pretentious fags that thing A24 films are so great and feminist period blood art is amazing.
Jazz is objectively bad, cacophonic and degenerate

>>508110745
>>508112495
>>508086816
You retarded gorilla niggers, people don't write music with math. Classical composers wrote by feeling too. You think those niggers were sitting there in the cathedral composing with roman numerals and formulae spinning around in their head? No, they sat in front of a piano, played around with some melodies that they heard in their head earlier that day and thought "damn, that sounds pretty good" then continued from there. Music theory is an analytical tool, used to describe music. Composing from theory is something you do on an exam.

If anything, jazz players are forced to think about theory because you have to know how chords are constructed to improvise a solo over them. Or maybe you have a guest singer who can't sing in the vocal range that your band usually plays in, so everyone in the band has to transpose the music to a different key.

I don't know why I'm bothering to write this since you're all retarded.

>>508123707
>Jazz is objectively bad, cacophonic and degenerate
wrong

>>508124773
>Music theory is an analytical tool, used to describe music. Composing from theory is something you do on an exam.
It's both a practical tool and an analytical tool. It's not one or the other. Classical composers used "theory" when composing obviously.
It's like grammar. You follow grammar when you speak. These are rules that can be described, yet you still follow them, even if only subconsciously. But usually it was consciously with classical composers (rules of voice leading, handling dissonance, form, etc.)
Overall your point is right, though. Music is not a mathematical formula. Even if you follow grammar - you still need something to actually say. You can't just "follow grammar" and write a good novel.

>>508084770 (OP)
>blacks n jazz n sheeeiiit
>jazz is maff
>maff is rayciss
i'll wait for an explanation, but not long

>>508087598
I'm going to list off random "palatable" jazz musicians so niggers can hear more variety in jazz
Not in any particular order: Joe Pass, Stan Getz, Hank Mobley, Gerry Mulligan, Chet Baker, Lester Young, Benny Golson, Joe Lovano, Booker Ervin

Nearly every poster in this thread is a fake natsoc and/or Israeli turbo-online faggot trying to discredit real national socialists.
>Hurr durr it's making mistakes sound good
>It actually just sounds bad I hate jazz

Absolute faggots, every one of you. Whites refined jazz into a pure and blessed form of music. Japs do it better anyways and they are our brothers. Like how they do baseball better than us. Again, you're all faggots that don't know musical history. Blacks had little to do with Jazz's proliferation. I'll kill every Jew on the planet myself just for you acting like you're us.

>>508110166
>>508110466

>>508125545
Literally all they have to do is google search "who are the top 20 jazz musicians of all time."
But retards won't do that - they just want to believe what they want to believe.

>>508125772
> Blacks had little to do with Jazz's proliferation.
Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, Bud Powell, Thelonious Monk, Dizzy Gillespie, John Coltrane, Duke Ellington, Charles Mingus, Herbie Hancock, Ornette Coleman, Nat King Cole, Max Roach...
DAMN! JEWS ARE AMAZING MUSIC TEACHERS!

>>508116640
>The Greeks, Pythagoreans specifically, invented Temperament.
they did NOT
the Greeks used just intonation, which is tuning a 7 note scale by tuning up the scale in 5ths, this was done by all cultures, from the babylonians to the chinese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMcpJF9ssnc

>>508084770 (OP)
blacks are good at entertaining. they make music and dance. they can catch a football and make slam dunks with the b-ball.

>>508116645
>Rap is Scottish actually lol.
all celtic music, including american country music, leaves to gaps or spaces in the singing, the singer is constantly singing throughout the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Qg99MhZQM

>>508089480
>Name 3 (Three) Black metal guitarists
Gelal, Hasjarl and I guess Fenriz counts

>>508126143
What you described is pythagorean tuning.
Just intonation is not really a single tuning, but rather a type of tuning. So pythagorean tuning is a type of just intonation, but is not the only (or most common) type. Most cultures are going to use a 5-limit tuning system (pythagorean is 3-limit)
And pythagorean doesn't necessarily have 7 notes, either.

>>508126290
>leaves to gaps or spaces
*leaves no gaps or spaces

>>508086821
>better than american indians because they are keeping a 4/4 beat
lol Fucking faggot Jewish whytoid can't comprehend anything other than 4/4 and major/minor chords.

>>508112948
Always Japan with you loser weebs.

>>508084770 (OP)
>classical music utilizes up to 10 or more distinct harmonic functions within a single movement
>jazz revolves around 3 to 5 -at most- primary chords during improvisation
Who the fuck was it that said jazz was the most mathematically complex genre of music? It's spontaneous, sure, but it's still nigger music.

>>508088798

>>508084770 (OP)
>jazz
>nigger gobbeldegook with no rhythm nor rhyme
Jazz sucks, and niggers are still subhuman.

>>508084770 (OP)
I like jazz. I don't think it's more than it is, which is nigger music, but I like it. I enjoy smooth jazz while driving, if only to keep me from becoming homicidal at how niggerish even white people drive now (I blame the vax/microchips but that's another discussion).

>>508126332
youre right, I get just intonation and pathagorean tuning mixed up, I only looked into this stuff breifly and found it a waste of time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgwaiEKnMTQ&list=PLWoQ_Z2-dWRmXI7KiHep_kG6BPqLEjl0K&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97UR0-HQT4E

If you like classical then you will like Bill Evans as well
https://youtube.com/watch?v=10QOOvxw0uA&pp=ygUPQmlsbCBldmFucyBsaXZl

>>508110466
>caricaturized impression
You are shit at it then

>>508122697
>6/8 just feels like a slow 4/4.
6/8 is just 3/4 using 8th notes instead of quarter notes

>>508119680
Jazz was great until bebop slop

>>508120827
>I-IV-V circle of fifths
Dumb nigger

>>508128069
Wrong - 6/8 is two groups of 3. It's almost like 2 beats per bar, where each beat is a triplet. 3/4 is 3 beats per bar.

>>508128177
You have no ears

>>508084770 (OP)
something something lots of time, monkey, typewriter.

>>508128356
I do. You are cattle
>Muh Coltrane
>Davis is so sick bro
I bet you think you like Zappa too

>>508128681
You just gotta be dumb to not like/get bebop.
I've tried to like Zappa, but to me he's hit or miss.
However there's a world of difference between bebop and zappa. I like bebop much more. They are miles apart.

>>508129009
>They are miles apart.
Bullshit, they are not even davis apart

>>508128307
no u

>>508128069
I mentioned FEEL, where the pulse of the music/beat happens.
Now rewrite the melody to All Blues to fit 11/8 time; I’ll give you a hint 1st measure is 6/8, second is 5/8

>>508129112
I thought it was kilometers per Davis :/

Jazz is all about the notes that aren't played and I wish there was more of them.

>>508129112
Nice one
To expand a bit on what I meant - bebop to me is pretty similar to older jazz. It's just played at a higher tempo, with some added scales/harmonies/rhythms etc. But in many ways it is fundamentally the same, just a bit "more".
Zappa's music on the other hand seems to be more like super modern try hard fusion. Changing time signatures all the time. Intentionally weird melodies or harmonies. Stupid sarcastic jokes, etc.
I've enjoyed some of his works, but what I tend to like the least are the music he's made which is labelled "fusion." His more conventional music or just blatant comedic music I enjoy. It's when he tries to get serious and ends up losing all aesthetics that I find it hard to enjoy. But maybe it will grow on me...

>>508084770 (OP)
Jazz is fucking garbage. It has relevance because kikes own the music industry and shove it down our throats.

>>508129426
Girl, you thought he was a man, BUT HE WAS A MUFFIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNN
Peaches en Regalia is still one of my favorite instrumentals

>>508089226
If you want some cool stuff, Pat Martino and Kenny Burrell

>>508129184
Lmao retard every chord is on the circle of fifths.
You can mark any old 3 chords and call it a day.
Basic Blues is: one chord, up a fourth, down a fourth, up a fifth, down a second, down a fourth, up a fifth (optional)
The "circle of fifth" progression, also called the cycle is when you constantly go up a fourth and down a fifth or the other way around, so "Fly Me to the Moon" or "All the Things You Are" but the latter is beyond your can

>>508129404
>Jazz is all about the notes that aren't played and I wish there was more of them.
so true, the bebop scale uses 10 out of the 12 possible notes of the scale, really hard not to play a wrong note when all the notes are right

>>508088443
I’ve never seen so many different ways of writing “ooga booga”.

OOGIDDY BOOGIDDY BOO!

>>508129426
Listen to Captain Beefheart's "Trout Mask Replica" if you want weird music, it's amazing they were able to play those songs more than once in the same arrangement.

>>508129786
Nigger all the white keys are in C and you can still play the wrong note in the key of C, it's not like you can just play any note anywhere because it's "in the scale".
What do you do, just poke notes like a monkey

>>508089569
>Ya know what else is 'mathematically complex'? A slum in Kinshasa.
Hahaha I like Swing Jazz but this one is gold

>>508115677
He could read and write sheet music. Many accounts of him pretending to be an ignorant barrel house blues player then performing pieces.of opera to clean up in bets.

>>508084770 (OP)
Can you measure all of the microscopic angles of my biggest shit? Zoom in, it’s incredibly complex, and I made it.

>>508126332
>And pythagorean doesn't necessarily have 7 notes
It has 12 by default

>>508084770 (OP)
There's a lot that can be said about blacks in music, like the greatest reggae musician Bob Marley who happens to be half white.

>>508126650
>classical music utilizes up to 10 or more distinct harmonic functions within a single movement
>jazz revolves around 3 to 5 -at most- primary chords during improvisation
You can't play a single tune

>>508130658
>the greatest reggae musician Eddy Grant
Ftfy