Thread 508102200

>>508102200 (OP)
For any thread that has a question as a title, the answer is no.

>>508102200 (OP)
100% true, I'm so tired of the "greeks built history" crap.

Explain this you historian cunts, how did people get to New Zealand from Persia a thousand years ago and why are there no records?

https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/waikato-times/20140715/282093454851624

>>508102200 (OP)
Ancient Grecians are actually aliens who came from outer space to colonize earth. Blacks and Asians are actually native to earth and evolved from monkeys while most Europeans actually originate from outer space.

>>508102200 (OP)
Yes, they are right. But so did the Chinese.

Basically the notion of "history" is futile.

It is well known that winners re-write history. Even if they HAD good intentions, it's mostly bits and pieces through the lens of individuals that didn't have access to all the data.

Now we live in the age of information, and it is more plain to see how much and how often both 'sides' lie. It's safe to assume nothing is 100% accurate, and potentially <50% accuracy or sincerity.

To even expect >5% accuracy in historical records is plain insanity and madness.

If you want to approach truth, read fiction... some reality transpire in old novels that will never make it through official historical records.

>>508102200 (OP)
like %.000001 believe that shit. also
>The chinese historiography and classics community either completely disagrees with this theory or simply does not want to spend time refuing these claims.

it's like the same fringe we wuzzing retards in the west who thinks the west invented chinese culture

>>508102200 (OP)
Based Fomenko pilled poster

>>508102200 (OP)
>gweiro make up everyting
emperor ching chong ping pong oversaw the cannibalism of 4 million people over a perceived disagreement. they can suck a massive bag of dicks

>>508102644
>Timber from a Chinese shipwreck identified as Chinese Teak or Youmu, carbon dated at 5923-5995 BCE was retrieved from a South Island beach

>>508102200 (OP)
Chinks are lying retards that can't even look at the word Taiwan with seething like a green hat cuck.

>>508102898
Does New Zealand lie?

Next you'll tell me the Wall of Kaimanawa was magically transported 20 miles across a lake by a meteor strike or some shit, landing perfectly as straight-edged blocks.

My ex is a geologist in NZ her entire job is subverting history and every day she hates it.

>>508102898
>knows what a green hat is
Taiwanese are chinks too m8

>>508103003
You know a green hat, but do you know a green face?

>>508102200 (OP)
Let me guess. It was akctually China the whole time.

>>508102898
This. Wouldn't be surprised if they are also the ones who were pushing that "mud flood" garbage a few years back too

>>508102200 (OP)
History is written by the winners. There's probably a lot of made up stuff in our history books but the same applies to chinks and everyone else.

>>508103183
The very first people to get to New Zealand had a culture of stone circle calendars, similar to the people that preceded the modern celts. They are known as the "Turehu" by Maori and are described as ghostly pale, almost blue, with blond or white hair. These people were met later by the Waitaha iwi, who arrived from Persia if we follow their DNA evidence. The Waitaha became an iwi (Maori division) later, after integration with the Maori, who introduced pork-based parasites that decimated the Turehu. When the British finally arrived, there were only myths and artefacts. But that was before DNA evidence and geological surveillance.

Now we know. And we censor because we don't want the underclass to know.

>>508102630
>how did people get to New Zealand from Persia a thousand years
By boat.
>and why are there no records?
No one kept records or all records were lost.

>>508103311
History WAS written by winners :)

Now it's written by DNA and geological surveillance :) :)

You can't censore the truth forever :) :) :)

$100000 open reward offered by Christoph Buchel of Switzerland if you can prove that a living man with Tasmanian DNA actually exists :) :) :) :)

>>508103003
>knows what a green hat is
I just learned that this morning thanks to gif, I'll be overusing it all weekend memefren.

nobody cares about your kiwi horseshit this thread is about chinks thinking that ancient greece wasn't real

>>508104263
Fun fact: In China you don't need a man to be alive to be his golddigger, you can marry his corpse and get the payout.

>>508104343
Well, China was trading with Persia in New Zealand for thousands of years before Greece was even a concept, so fuck Greece and their "we build civilisation" pile of trash talk :)

Dismiss me so hard you sound like you work for the Smithsonian.

>>508102200 (OP)
all history is mostly fictionalized to suit contemporary politics

>>508102200 (OP)
Sounds like giga bugman cope.

>>508103876
>nobody kept records of worldwide trade
>we lost the records tee hee

Ah, I bet you have a lot of censorious geologists in Iceland, too.

>>508104502
So what you are saying is that China exported civilization to Europe and that the Greeks were Chinese?

>>508102200 (OP)
How do they reconcile this with that historical record of a chinese traveler, who described rome and the senate pretty accurately in his writings?
https://youtu.be/LGyJXIveQGc
(Though he left out the fact there were paved roads across the country, because that would probably make China look like total dogshit)

>>508104740
>Ah, I bet you have a lot of censorious geologists in Iceland, too
What strange thing to say.

>>508104781
?????????

What the absolute fuck is wrong with you retard? You subversive fucking asshole. China was literally white in those times, they were part of the Persian empire.

Go to a fucking museum, CHRIST!!!

>>508104934
Well if you believe that vikings were the first to land there you are utterly delusional.

Geological surveys and DNA, that's all you'll ever need to study history.

>>508102200 (OP)
Yeah all that's fake but of course china's is 100% real, obviously.

>>508104420
That sounds absurd, but I'd cuck a dead CCP chink in a minute bro.

You do realize that one of the things that made the west surpass the rest of the world is mass preservation and copy of texts right?
And a academic system where people would read hundreds of texts and data on a given matter made by lots of people and make digestible proper information out of it and publish it

Those Italians didn't spawn from the ether, they inherited hundred of years of human (written) progress

Just a bunch of afrocentrist-tier pseudointellectuals retards in an echo chamber

>>508104934
Where does Icelandic C1 lineage originate?

>>508105177
冥婚 usually involves two dead people and is enforced by local officials, with federal govt avoiding the topic entirely. But on a technicality you can have a tribal marriage to an orphaned dead man in order to take over his assets.

They are not wrong. Western history is Jewish history sadly. Africa built civilization and was stolen by Jews

>>508105177
Also it's not as crazy as some Islamic interpretations of the Quran, for example if you steal a pregnant woman's breast milk and drink it you're legally protected and her husband cannot harm you. You can live as a parasite in their home and Allah permits this.

the chinese an-hero'd their own history so who cares what they think?

>>508102898
kosher speech detected

If you would continue reading that article you'd realize that this is such a fringe theory not even the most brainrotten chink nationalists believe it widely.

The entire chinese economy is dependent on mutt boomers being consoomers. Zoomers and gen alpha only consoom social media, they're not buying shit from china every five seconds. Once the boomers are gone china will lose its power

>>508102200 (OP)
This is cope from a culture that usually burns the imperial libraries at the change of a dynasty.

>>508102200 (OP)
>Things that make me feel bad aren't true

>>508102200 (OP)
This coming from the people calling themselves Han Chinese when the Han got raped out of the gene pool 100x over

>>508102200 (OP)
this is just /x/ schizos not chuds

>…he who controls the past controls the present
Orwell, 1984. Very typical CCP spaghetti noodle doodles.
Everything out of and about china today is fake, china is immensely backwards. Except rat farming, so china#1 after all. At rat farming (actual real chinese fact).

>>508106559
The han have never ruled china. The han are like slav’s (literally “slaves”) a slave race bred to be servile and weak and to be ruled by the manchu. Like She Manchu the turd chopped dictator of china today.

>>508106951
Around 4000BC virtually everyone in China died, their modern population is derived in majority from 3 ancestral males. When I talk about Chinese history in fucking 6000BC I'm not talking about slanty eyed yellow jews.

>>508106067
Well your jewdar is off by about 88 thousands miles retard.

Just nonwhites coping with being far behind Europeans. When a civilization goes into the "imperialism phase" they always start pushing the idea that they are the most advanced and everyone else is retarded and primitive. Chinks are doing that right now

>>508102200 (OP)
>chingchong: achmaenid empire was fabricated by the greeks because the desert is too hot to live in

lol

>>508108521
>appeal to peer review

what about appeal to actual genetic evidence? you're taking the last, what, 2000 years into account max?

Human history is 5 million years old.

>>508102200 (OP)
Hilarious coming from chinkies

>>508102200 (OP)
Yes, but it's not strictly Western. Eastern too, history is all fabricated

>>508102200 (OP)
>events was manipulated by the Freemasons
at least chinks are redpilled about the freemason Jew problem

In any case Homer was not a historian. That we found the ruins of Troy in Turkey was a surprise to historians at the time. To be honest the ruins of Troy are less impressive than say Gobekli Tepe from 10,000 years ago.

>>508108521
Yes but so are you unironically. Most of the modern civilizations are in the process of reaching their terminal/Imperialism phase. This includes China, West, Russia, and the Jewish/Islamic civilisation.

>>508104554
You fucking anti intellectuals think everything is fake. Everyone is conspiring to trick you and lie to you about everything, for some reason.
I used to joke that one day these flat earth types would start saying history is fake and it seems we're at that point

>>508102200 (OP)
no, it's like pajeets thinking white people owe them $46 trillion

We did this yesterday.
The current narrative/timeline is fake. I don't mean timeline in a sci fi sense but chronology.
https://www.unz.com/article/how-fake-is-roman-antiquity/
Most of it is circular reasoning.
Also chinese history is fake.
The Chin were white, probably the same red haired charioteers as the Hyksos. The Han were the conquered natives.
There's about a thousand years of fake history, give or take depending on where we're taking.

>>508102200 (OP)
Its the Chinese version of
>Dark ages/Early Medieval era was fabricated by the Pope and HRE Emperor to make their rules line up with the year 1000

>>508109338
But everything is fake.
911
COVID vax
J6
Gulf of tonkin
Innocent lucitania
Stockbrokers jumping out of windows
Grassroots support for the American revolution
The Apollo footage (not necessarily space in general)
Luigi's ever changing face and backpack
Iraqi wmd
The gold in fort Knox
"William Shakespeare" (penis masturbating?)
The mysterious 6 million yids

I mean, common? You know they've been lying about everything, you just don't want to admit it.

>>508102200 (OP)
this is completely true, but we don't have half the imagination chinese people have

>>508110348
No, it's that the spaghetti niggers chimped out and looted Constantinople and the Midichis paid for forgeries to make it look like wewuz civilization all along.

>>508109338
>Everyone is conspiring to trick you and lie to you about everything, for some reason
They think that because they can't stand the idea of being uninformed or wrong about something. Like >>508106376. It is pathetic, fragile behaviour that tends to come packaged with lower intelligence

>>508102200 (OP)
We have written texts in English dating back to early 7th century. We have over 1000 years of unbroken common law to draw on. Even if anything before that WAS fabricated it is utterly inconsequential.

>>508105868
Sounds comfy, no wonder theirs no homeless problem in arabland.

>>508111024
Point out the holes in the Apollo narrative to people, especially boomers. It's like you slapped their mother. Even the most "aliums r reel" and "fuck America and fuck white men" crazies get REALLY fucking upset when you show them the problems with the film, pics, and narrative (van allen belts, etc )
They take it personally.

>>508110677
Just because there's corruption and true conspiracies doesn't mean all conspiracies are true. Like space, nukes, the globe etc being fake is just based on noticing a few small perceived discrepancies and dismissing the entire consensus with no alternative explanations besides unprovable fabrications to fill in the gaps. Even if the consensus explains a million other things in a logical and sensible way.

>>508102418
Amen brother, fuck OP and his gay nigger behavior.

>>508111086
No, you've been told that we have texts going back that far. Look at all the admitted forgeries (donation of Constantine for example) in the narrative that were accepted by contemporaries.
Have you actually examined at least the digital scans of these "7th century" documents? Or did you take some indoctrinated shabbos goy's word for it? Can you even read old English?

>>508106127
>As if talking about fringe theories like a magic nigger with a comically oversized head from the moon, being the creator of whites, was a hindrance for it being told and crafted into modern internet mythology.

>>508102200 (OP)
China is so ungrateful for everything that was done for it.

>>508102200 (OP)
how do you think?
chinese and russians have absolutely no respect for truth
read about nestor chronicles for example
read about chinese face saving
read about scale of their exams cheating
but yeah people who were most oriented towards truth surely lied about everything and some communist chink will tell you how it really was fueled by his nation's constant cheating on IQ tests

>>508102200 (OP)
All history is fabricated, an invention of mind. There is in truth only the eternal moment of the present.

>>508102418
Do you avoid sucking my ballsack homosexually?

considering 20th century history, yes, it's pretty safe to say everything is fake and gay

>>508106761
>english tests prove Brits are most honest while chyna is le bad.

>>508111431
>globe
I don't even go into flerfer territory, in sure that's well poisoning (as is tartaria.)
What I have done is study primary sources of history as an occasional hobby since the early 90's and let me tell you something. I recognize the retconning of an intellectual property when I see one.
There's 2 forces at work here.
1: New real evidence that has to be retconed into the existing narrative
And
2: New fake history to push an agenda that mysteriously wasn't there ten years ago, even at major university libraries, but somehow it's common knowledge now.

>>508104740
>>508111692
>Don't belief a thing and go fuck da shit out of sissy. she's out back and her fuckin pussy is soppin wet, bubba
Which biblical scholar do I follow

>>508102200 (OP)
Fomenko sold his stories to China and now it automatically became the most popular fringe theory in the world. Based
>>508111680
>chinese and russians have absolutely no respect for truth
>read about nestor chronicles for example
Pot called kettle back, read Wincenty Kadłubek Chronicle

>>508111680
Oh fuck yeah, they lie like rugs. That's why it's so easy to get them to play ball with the current narrative.
They have the tomb of the fucking chin emperor, but they don't want to disturb it (nevermind they turned the rest of it into a tourist attraction.) You'd think the people's scientists would want to run his DNA. Why wouldn't they do that?

what IS a chud? I still don't know. It only speaks of the speaker, not what they are speaking of. All it tells the reader is the poster is a leftist, likely a woman/jewish (the same thing), and likes to talk about "incels" a lot.

Chad was an actual meme that girls talked about in real life while laughing with each other. No one says chud except you. What does it even mean?

>>508102200 (OP)
>chink trying to pull a kike trick on the level of jeets
kek, nice try chinks!
>we ching chong philosophy!
kek

>>508112600
Broken clock is right twice a day.
They're right any the general concept.

>>508112216
what about it mongrel?
>Unlike many other medieval chronicles written by European monks, the Tale of Bygone Years is unique as the only written testimony on the earliest history of East Slavic people.[66] Its comprehensive account of the history of Rus' is unmatched in other sources, but important correctives are provided by the Novgorod First Chronicle.[67] It is also valuable as a prime example of the Old East Slavonic literature.[53][page needed]

>However, its reliability has been widely called into question and placed under careful examination by contemporary specialists in the field of the Old East Slavonic history. The first doubts about trustworthiness of the narratives were voiced by Nikolay Karamzin in his History of the Russian State (1816–26), which brought attention to Nestor's questionable chronology and style of prose.[68] Building upon Karamzin's observations, further inquiries into the philology of the Rus Primary Chronicle shined more light on various weaknesses in the text's composition. According to Dmitry Likhachov (1950), the chronicle exhibits the presence of plentiful "fillers" that were added post factum and, in effect, "destroyed the narrative's logical progression."[69]

>>508112216
>>508113522
>According to Aleksey Shakhmatov (1916), some of the incongruities are a direct result of the fact that "the ruling Princes of Kiev had their own propagandists who rewrote the annals to make political claims that best suited their own purposes."[32] Shakhmatov further described the Tale of Bygone Years as a literary creation that fell under heavy influence of the Church and the State.[70] Dmitry Likhachov famously wrote in his 1950 critique of the Rus Primary Chronicle, "No other country in the world is cloaked in such contradictory myths about its history as Russia, and no other nation in the world interprets its history as variously as do the Russian people."[71] The need to interpret the Chronicle, mentioned by Likhachov as essential to making sense of its narrative, stems from the facts that the text was initially compiled and edited by multiple authors with different agendas and that it had to be translated from Old East Slavic language, which proved to be an arduous task.[71]


>Paul Bushkovitch (2012) from Yale University writes “the author was serving his rulers, identifying princes and people and leaving historians with a muddle virtually impossible to sort out.”[76] He also mentions that there are discrepancies when overlapping Scandinavian history with the narrative of the Primary Chronicle. For example, “archeological evidence does not fit the legends of the Primary Chronicle” such as: “in Scandinavia itself, there were no sagas of Viking triumphs and wars in Russia to match those recounting the conquest of Iceland and the British Isles”. The credibility of the Primary Chronicle should be taken with a grain of salt for its undertone of being a political tool to justify rule.[76]

>>508104218
Haha, we are the Gods of this Earth

>>508112281
kek too blonde for a han chinaman?

Between the ozon hole "science", global warming "science" and COVID "science" I'd rather believe chuds than traditional theories, especially when the "science" seethes that much about the cold facts they've ben presented