the federal government apparently owns over a third of the country. i hate how powerful the federal government is. we must give this land back to the states or to private ownership.

>>508121919 (OP)
Keep your greasy hands off my national parks, rabbi

Yes just let blackrock buy the land so they can develop it and put millions of jeets on it

>>508121919 (OP)
No, we must keep Federal Land Federal, otherwise billionaires will own it then they will abuse the citizens with that land. It will be bad for society if this happens, worst is that the billionaires will be killed over it. The gov needs it for a recourse back up.

>>508121919 (OP)
Teddy Roosevelt was right to protect the land.
Greedy kike hands want to exploit the lands and their nasty golems among conservatives seek to help them.

You can't take a piss on the side of the road in Texas without a ranch owner coming at you with a rifle for trespassing. That's the reality of a state not having federal land. You see feds practically own Nevada and think that's a terrible thing, but in reality besides people fucking around and finding out at the Area 51 perimeter it's basically a state-wide public camp ground.

>>508121919 (OP)
as a principled conservative and racist libertarian, it is clear that most of the federal land should be given to amish people to settle and produce tens of millions of white children

>>508122195
This. It's nice that some of the land is undisturbed nature

>>508122050
federal government and national parks are jewish, kike. sell it all! NATONAL SOCIALISTS WILL SELL IT ALL! NATONAL SOCIALISTS WILL SELL IT ALL! DEATH TO JEWISH BIG GOVERNMENT

Blackrock or china will put millions of jeets in Utah
It will become a blue state in a few short years

>>508121919 (OP)
Yes let's just let megacorps rape our land even more. What a wonderful idea.

>>508121919 (OP)
That's the part of the fed balance sheer that bears the gold that's falsely accounted as being already refined and in fort knox, nobody is going to mine it with the price of bitcoin so low.

>>508122050
as a principled anti-communist, i must insist that private land ownership and the decentralization of the federal government are top priorities for the success of our white nation

>>508121919 (OP)
Is hunting allowed on federal land?

The national parks are one of the few things the feds did right

Trump will do whatever he's told to do by |Redacted: 06/20/25(Fri)13:09:24|

>>508122370
Utah is probably going to become a swing state as is. It was one of the only states to move further left in the past election.

Fun fact: texass has so little public land that you have to know someone or pay a bunch of money to someone just to "hunt." Also, "hunting" in texass is just going to a fenced-in field where you shoot pre-stocked animals--almost exactly like shooting fish in a barrel. This is considered "manly" in texass.

>>508122195
Teddy Roosevelt is a literal Progressive Proto-Commie and if everyone listened to him in the 15th century there never would have been an America in the first place.
>nooooooooooooo it's so evil that you're walking into the wilderness and creating civilization
>stop
>stop building things
>stay in the tax cattle reservations back in England

>>508122546
Hunting is generally allowed on BLM land and in national forests, but not national parks.

>freely accessible land where anyone can hunt, hike, camp, shoot or collect fossils freely
>this is somehow bad
>let’s sell it to oil companies and log it all instead and limit access

If you support this, you are traitor to the United States.

>>508122491
In a communist country, the government would own everything and ban you and everyone else from ever touching it - out of fairness and equality of course.

True or false - we should stop funding Israel. Answer.

>>508122620
utah is perpetually ten to fifteen years behind the rest of the country, culturally.

they're going through their emma sulkowicz mattress girl phase at the moment

got a weird little patch of federal land near me, in ny.

>>508122074
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>>508122370
as a principled mormon racist, i am compelled to support the great based senator michael lee in his endeavor to raise money for my white people's full-body white underwear by selling gay federal land

>>508122491
the billionaires thanks you for your principles and also laugh in your face because they literally own thousands of acres for their own enjoyment that you will never see.
and if this land is privatized neither you nor any of yor descendants will ever see it either -- or if you do it will be covered with tract housing and teeming with undesirables and run-down chain stores

>>508122688
You shut your goddamned mouth you like faggot

>>508121919 (OP)
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>>508122491

>>508121919 (OP)
>>508122285
>>508122367
>>508122491
forgot pic

>>508121919 (OP)
A good portion of that federal land is already in use by the public, part of national parks, reserved for military, reserved for vets, and native american reserve territory.
Just goes to show /pol/ doesnt investigate anything since HWNDU

>>508123001
all it takes is a bit of shill money, and you can convince the gullible masses of cattle that having public lands is a bad thing, and it would be much better in blackrock's hands. maybe alex soros can pick up a few hundred thousands acres on the cheap. or klaus schwab.

they did the same thing with monstanto in washington state in the 2010s. broke fundraising records. no different than how reddit infamously makes west virginia seem like san fransisco, if you just went by "online (allowed) sentiment".

Like hasbara...

>>508122283
>>508122318
>>508122367
>>508122395
>>508122688
>Teddy Roosevelt is a literal Progressive Proto-Commie and if everyone listened to him in the 15th century there never would have been an America in the first place.
true
>>508122791
>In a communist country, the government would own everything and ban you and everyone else from ever touching it - out of fairness and equality of course.
>
>True or false - we should stop funding Israel. Answer
as a principled antisemite and anti-bolshevik russophobe, it is clear we must decentralize the federal government by getting rid of federal land ownership so we don't wind up like ((russia))

>>508122856
didn't mattress girl to convert right wing politics

>>508122856
>>508123594
convert to*

Public lands are well aligned with the principles of national socialism. The nation belongs to the volk.

>>508122546
OK thanks fren. I was thinking they must be vast hunting parks and got excited. We can hunt here on all public land with exceptions for campsites and hunting native animals obviously

>>508123228
as a principled propertarian, this looks very cozy and based. it's clear to me that only government worshipping communist jews would want the federal government to own a third of the country that belongs to the states and/or the private sector

>>508122637
Sad state of affairs I learned this recently. Also you guys don't have rabbits, not the English kind at least

>>508122620
California exodus and liberalization of LDS women explains this: >>508122856

>>508122789
Sorry replied to myself instead of you for some reason

>>508123805

>>508121919 (OP)
>Sell all the gold!
>Sell all the land!
>We need more money to fund palantir and welfare!
>The real estate Jew NEEDS to put up a new Amazon warehouse!
The dying throes of an empire

>>508123001
If you pay over 100% tax to build a house there like most places and they already own the government to bail out their companies like most places I dont think they would have a problem with it, you will have do drill a well over 5000 m deep to have water in most of those places though, and you would not actually own your property and would have to continue paying taxes even though you already would have already payed over a combined 100% tax just to build in such a shitty place.

>>508122367
The real National Socialists were pro-public land, you fucking moron. Where do you think all those Hitler Youth and KdF hiking and camping trips etc. happened? The NSDAP were huge public land access and conservation advocates, and Hitler himself said that all land was "national property, and in the end only given to the individual as a loan."

>>508124327
fairly routine

>>508124533
i will find you and kill you communist rat. do not utter fuhrers name ever again kike or i will slit your throat. your bolshevik agenda is falling.

>>508124055
No worries friend.
>>508123805
Some of the national parks have national preserves attached to them as well, like Wrangell-St. Elias national park. Those generally fit the idea of a vast, remote hunting area.

>>508123001
>the billionaires thanks you for your principles and also laugh in your face because they literally own thousands of acres for their own enjoyment that you will never see.
>and if this land is privatized neither you nor any of yor descendants will ever see it either -- or if you do it will be covered with tract housing and teeming with undesirables and run-down chain stores

as a principled leaf hater and strip mall enjoyer, i must inform you that you don't seem to understand how the american real estate system works, so i will explain it to you. in america all privately owned land except for religious land is subject to property taxes. property taxes raise revenue for local governments, which is preferable to the centralized federal government. property taxes are a penalty that motivate active land use or sale of the land to someone else who will use it. without property taxes large corporations would face no penalty for acquiring vast swaths of land and letting them sit unused. it's sad how typical it is for indian canadians like yourself to worship at the altar of centralized federal government. you might as well join the communist party if you hate private property so much

>>508121919 (OP)
>he doesn't know
Go look at what those lands are, dipshit.

>>508122637
I pat the grease off my pie too but that's because my gallbladder is on its way out. Everything else in that video was just offensive.

>>508122195
Was he the last good president?
Unfortunately him trying to stop Taft's kikery inadvertently led to central banking kikery. He was fighting a losing war, brawling on all sides. God bless the Bull Moose.

>>508122367
>federal government and national parks are jewish, kike. sell it all! NATONAL SOCIALISTS WILL SELL IT ALL! NATONAL SOCIALISTS WILL SELL IT ALL! DEATH TO JEWISH BIG GOVERNMENT
>>508124784
>i will find you and kill you communist rat. do not utter fuhrers name ever again kike or i will slit your throat. your bolshevik agenda is falling.
as a principled schizophrenic nazi, i must fully endorse these words as the most based posts itt

>>508124809
>>508124803
>>508124533
>>508124327
>>508123642
as a principled adherent to the spirit of 1776, i must inform you that the founding fathers would never have approved of the federal government centralizing power by acquiring over a third of the states' lands

>>508124784
He would send you to the camps with the other kikes for daring to put his flag on your own bullshit agenda

>>508124803
I'd like to go one day. Get a bear or cougar. Tag system is pretty cucked and as a tourist I can't really get a rifle and just drive around in a rental car with it in the boot, I researched it once lol

>>508121919 (OP)
eastern state fags are all like "don't touch my national parks". especially coloradofags. fucking back east faggots.
t. oreganon

>>508122195
The government will hold the lands and the value of those lands will increase as time goes on. It was a smart move.

>>508125665
you need dogs to hunt cougars. or a helicopter and a 50 cal.

>>508122195
today, sweden was a faggot.
as is tradition.

>>508121919 (OP)
okay what happened, why do the jews want this right now. Can anyone fill me in?

>>508125518
The founding fathers would be having violent aneurysms and strokes if they saw how overpopulated and brown the US is today. They would view Bill Gates & Blackrock buying all this property as a mockery of everything they stood for.

>>508125835
holy fucking RIP spain

>>508125523
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT? HE WOULD GAS YOU BOLSHEVIK KIKE FOR YOUR MARXIST AGENDA

>>508121919 (OP)
An unrestrained manifestation of then human civilization spook ultimately defeats itself like a invasive species devouring everything until it can't be sustained

You cannot turn all land into endless suburbia or farms, look up Easter Island for proof.

>>508125789
That's the fun of it. They're cruel evil animals

>>508121919 (OP)
>the federal government apparently owns over a third of the country
it's either a park or so worthless that nobody wants to buy it from the federal government

>>508121919 (OP)
would you rather sand niggers and chinks own it to steal water for farmland only to ship what they grow back to their country?

>>508125518
George Washington literally put down an armed insurrection to centralize the federal government, Nigger

>>508122158
How is that any different if the government owns it? They own the government

>>508121919 (OP)
Why not just give it back to the states why do they need to sell it to their jewish and chinese overlords? Is mike lee retarded?

Yeah, sell the land to Jews and Chinks so Blumpf can line his pockets and sell out the country out and prevent Americans from enjoying nature. Great plan, Shlomo!

>>508127484
Maybe it's different where you live but NM is corrupt as fuck, selling the land back to the state will just have it end up billionaire private land anyway.

>>508126134
>The founding fathers would be having violent aneurysms and strokes if they saw how overpopulated and brown the US is today
brown, yes absolutely. overpopulated? not even close
>They would view Bill Gates & Blackrock buying all this property as a mockery of everything they stood for
they already factored in property taxes as a hedge against the landed gentry in britain. these large companies are penalized by local property taxes that motivate active land use or the sale of unused land. idle land costs money. the founding fathers would rather see large private entities own land than see the federal government centralize power by seizing a third of the states' land. if you recall we are supposed to be a nation of states, it's in the name. the united states of america. ring a bell? not the centralized federal government of america.
founding fathers would be disgusted by the fact that our federal government has done nothing but centralize power and land since the civil war, mostly by jewish scotus opinions and civil rights laws and stuff that have neutered state autonomy and individual autonomy, like the fundamental right for private citizens and entities to discriminate on the basis of race, sex, religion, etc. as they see fit in all manners of life and commerce

>>508127160
>the founding fathers wanted a strong centralized federal government to weaken the states to the point they basically have no power or autonomy
what's life like on planet retardnigger?

>>508121919 (OP)
Federal lands should ONLY be released through the Desert Lands Act. That is basically the Homestead Act. YOU as an individual have to settle the 160 acres, live on it, and make bonafide use of it. And it can't be sold for a long time after.
Otherwise, fuck off corpjew

>>508128668
sign me up

>>508121919 (OP)
research the Nixon shock. The USA doesnt own most of the land anymore. nixon created the epa to sieze land as collateral for the missing gold that europe entrusted to the US during ww2. they wanted it back and we didnt have it, so nixon ditched the gold standard and promised military protection and land as collateral.

>>508121919 (OP)
never knew there's a mini-states inside the states..

>>508121919 (OP)
cannot swim
can't drive a car
can't ride a bike
can't ride a horse
can't start a campfire
doesn't know how to fish
thinks the great outdoors is "icky"

of course he wants to sell off your parkland

>>508125518
Ok destroy central bank first.
Only gold and silver are constitutional money, constitutionjew

>>508128559
Can you please explain providing public land for recreation weakens the states? 5 of my uncles fought in the 52nd and 16th Georgia infantry for the 10th amendment, which is more than (you) or your shit eating family have ever done pajeet, don't lecture me.

>>508128077
>overpopulated, not even close
I fucking love living in urban hellscape with a bunch of slave bugs like the Chinese and Indians! We need to pack in as many proles as possible! For (((God))) and the GDP brother! Push it to the limit!

>>508121919 (OP)
crazy how the government owns the exact outline in the middle of each state....

>>508121919 (OP)
Sure but how about we only allow the sale of federal land to individual American citizens who do not already own land? Sound good?

>>508128706
here ya go anon
https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/2520-001.pdf

>desert and mountains
Only the chinese government buys that if you list it for sale

>>508122367
You're Indian

>>508121919 (OP)
If you have to pay property taxes, then the government owns your land too. The property taxes are the rent.

>>508125835
>poland -99.8%
Suuuuch bullshit.

>>508129840
That pays for services such as roads and water

>>508129840
>If you have to pay property taxes, then the government owns your land too. The property taxes are the rent.
>if you have to pay income taxes, then the government owns your salary, the income tax is the rent on your salary
>if you have to pay sales taxes, then the government owns your goods and services too. the sales taxes are the rent
you don't understand property at a fundamental level. if you own title or even a possessory interest like a lease you can easily determine whether or not you have property. can you exclude others from it? can you exploit the property as you see fit? congrats you have property, even if it is taxed. if the government physically takes (eminent domain) or commits a regulatory taking that limits the use of property sufficiently to significantly decrease its value, the government must compensate you

>>508121919 (OP)
t. retard

>>508125518
The republic the founders tried to created died in the 1850s. I've got the blood of men who sat on the continental congress and signers of the declaration in my veins and I still don't give a shit.

>>508121919 (OP)

>>508121919 (OP)
retard
federal land is owned by YOU

>>508122491
you are a clown
useful idiot

>>508129153
>Sure but how about we only allow the sale of federal land to individual American citizens who do not already own land? Sound good?
absolutely. assuming they're white. i want the federal government decentralized i'm not sincerely attached to mike lee's proposal i don't even really know the specifics i just want a weaker federal government that doesn't own so much state or private land. i also think we need to reverse tons of federal statutes and scotus case law that have centralized power at the federal level and neutered the states

>>508131732
what is the problem other than you are a dem?

>>508131821
>retard
>federal land is owned by YOU
literal communist talking point. kys comrade. so retarded it's unbelievable
>owned by YOU
let's see i can't exclude others from the land. i can't exploit the land how i see fit. i don't own it. that's not how property works, you absolute dumbass
>>508131881
>you are a clown
>useful idiot
lmao you are so fucking stupid

>>508121919 (OP)
they are going to sell it to private companies leaving the fed gov with USD. then when the whole thing goes tits up all the private companies will be fuedal lords.

>>508132463
So I guess you don't believe in corporate ownership of property, joint ownership by married couples, or anything else like that either?

>>508124808
>sell federal lands
>strip mall enjoyer
>property taxes are a penalty that motivate active land use
god i hate you so much

>>508132463
national parks are one of the few great things about today's USA.
AND YOU WANT IT GONE
POST HANDS

Pretty sure Zognald will just hand it over to the Jews.

>>508129041
>Can you please explain providing public land for recreation weakens the states? 5 of my uncles fought in the 52nd and 16th Georgia infantry for the 10th amendment, which is more than (you) or your shit eating family have ever done pajeet, don't lecture me.
>40% of the country must be allocated for recreation and it absolutely has to be owned by the federal government, definitely not the state or local governments. the idea of private ownership with land use restricted by euclidean zoning never occurred to me bc i don't know what that is because i'm retarded.
did your faggot uncles enjoy sucking each other's cocks? picrel
>I fucking love living in urban hellscape with a bunch of slave bugs like the Chinese and Indians! We need to pack in as many proles as possible! For (((God))) and the GDP brother! Push it to the limit!
have you ever been on a road trip? this country is nowhere close to overpopulated you fucking retard

>>508121919 (OP)
What will happen is the government will sell it to their billionaire friends/donors who buy it with money the government prints and then loans to them at near zero interest rates. The land will then become inaccessible to ordinary people.

>>508121919 (OP)
they can sell some of the Bureau of Land Management lands. Those are not national parks or forests and there's a vast area of them

>>508131947
>i don't even really know the specifics
Pic related sums up the specifics. I would rather the federal government keep the land vs selling it to Blackrock/Bill Gates/China. Those three have enough land already and things have only gotten worse because of it.

>>508125835
Now I get why people are having a bad time visiting Spain.

>>508121919 (OP)
no, only people that will buy up the land are going to be dick head billionaires to keep us goy out from shitn in da woods

>>508132813
>So I guess you don't believe in corporate ownership of property, joint ownership by married couples, or anything else like that either?
non sequitur. biggest retard award
>>508132991
>national parks are one of the few great things about today's USA.
>AND YOU WANT IT GONE
>POST HANDS
they should be state parks or local parks or privately owned parks with land use restrictions via zoning, and they shouldn't make up 1/3 of the landmass of the country. not sure what the total % of land is national parks vs total federal land but i don't think the country should be 33% parks. maybe 5-15% something like that

>>508133405
Harlan Crow's name always makes me laugh, it sounds so much like the kind of name Hollywood would make up for exactly the kind of character he is.

>>508132991
>meme flag
Go apply at Costco, boomer. We're all about to become homeowners.
Boomer cash cow status: GRILLED

>>508122491
>we must sell off all remaining patches of nature so they can be paved, covered in commieblock housing, and stuffed full of shitskins
>if you’re against this you’re a commie
Shalom, rabbi.

>>508124808
>property taxes are a penalty that motivate active land use or sale of the land to someone else who will use it.
Penalties do not motivate anything. Penalties say "don't do that." Incentives say "do more of this." Since you cannot make this distinction, I conclude that you are either a shill or a victim of particular child abuse.

>>508133405
>Pic related sums up the specifics
good info desu
>I would rather the federal government keep the land vs selling it to Blackrock/Bill Gates/China
i would rather neither of these options. state or local ownership, cheap land for white homesteaders, white amish homesteaders, private parks with land use restrictions, hell even some gas stations and strip malls. i've stopped at gas stations and little towns nestled in some very scenic remote areas in wyoming and other states and thought it looked great and cozy, didn't seem to take away from the natural beauty at all

>>508124784
>sperging out memeflag
lol btw adolf hitler today would probably be a blue haired troon instead of chimping out.

>>508122074
Kek this, it’ll just be ghettos for poos or something worse

>>508134402
We'll be lucky if we even see that. More likely it'll be just like all those empty houses and skyscrapers in big cities, just bought and ignored until they can pawn it off on somebody else for more than they paid. Maybe a few plots will become private retreats for hollywood stars and CEOs.

>>508135047
>Penalties do not motivate anything.
>penalty and incentive are mutually exclusive words. a penalty cannot also act as an incentive and vice versa
sure about that big guy?

https://www.sfgate.com/national-parks/article/grand-teton-national-park-land-sale-alarm-bells-20383751.php
>this includes grand teton national park
holy kek these kleptocrats aren't even trying to not be brazen. they better get their palantir totalitarian robot police state up and running because all ultra rich gated communities are gonna get burnt to the ground by 2028

>>508121919 (OP)
85% of.??? is federal land? Is this true?

international unmitigated deforestation could kill the entire human race in less than a decade.
not for sale.
also you have an obligation to contact (or use twitter to shitpost) your congressional representatives to absolutely ensure the rejection of this retarded bill. it isn't about land or resources, it's about deforestation and literally destroying sources of breathable air. israel must fall, and judaism far too long has represented an anti-human death cult.

>>508135661
Your house is on fire. It's too hot in there. You leave. Do you leave because the weather outside is nice and there's some ice cream waiting for you, or are you leaving so you don't die?

>>508121919 (OP)
Fuck private property. Reasonable access and usage of land is common sense, but holding millions of acres of land in private hands and saying no one can access it is absolutely wrong and shows the greed this country has. Scotland has the appropriate knowledge about this, helps they're 90% white

>>508135877
>85% of.??? is federal land? Is this true?
yes our massive western states are actually more comparable to the size of new jersey most americans don't even know this. hell i didn't even know it was quite this bad until yesterday. that's why i've been so frustrated with basically everyone on the "right" vehemently defending the federal govt owning so much land on twitter and elsewhere. we're supposed to be a nation of states after all. but instead we are such a centralized country today in both law and in land allocation

>>508136657
>Fuck private property
kill yourself commie faggot

>>508136657
>private
It's public land though. Much of it is open to the public for use, hunting, hiking, fishing are some of the things you can do on it. Most rivers are public land as well to allow free navigation. Although free navigation also has laws for private lands.

Obviously the land granted to the military is not accessible to the general public but that is a much smaller part of it.

>>508136726
Im not the communist dumb fuck, I'm a freedom loving Aryan. The communist is the one who whordes 14k acres of land for 1 dollar a year leases and then turns around and receives gibs like livestock disaster subsidies. That's literal communism and it's not me but the thousands of land whorders while you wage slave at Walmart and live in a lice bucket commie block cuck block apartment lol communist psh

>>508137024
>Ewg.org

>>508135661
Your dad wants you to be strong, smart, and successful. But he doesn't want you to shit on the floor. When your dad smacks you, it's completely unrelated to the fact that he wants you to be strong, smart, and successful, it's because he wants you to stop shitting on the floor, Raypfasst. When your dad tells you to go outside and get some sunlight, it is completely unrelated to the fact that he wants you to stop shitting on the floor.

And when your dad says he shouldn't have banged a jeeta, he's punishing himself, not you.

>>508136726
you're a retarded shit flinging troll. go suck a jews cock on their private property seeded with dead native american blood like a good golem

>>508131732
Un-constitutional law is Un-constitutional.

>Saar vhy do you needing the public land? Are you communist?

>Bill delists suppressors
Yay
>Bill delists SBRs
Yay
>Bill sells off my place to shoot and hunt
Fucking monkey paw shit

>>508121919 (OP)
Get on your knees and tongue my anus you absolute jew

No. Now sit down and shut up.

>>508137024
Also national parks are rather gay. Better to have the lands open to all regardless if they're owned by the government or not. Most nps or govt employees are dei trash that don't know how to manage land and half the time it's just over regulated trash with forest jannies. America should take a note from most of Europe.

But but what about the bio-diversity and smart cities..

>>508137024
>>508137195
>>508137093
>fuck private property
>private property is evil
>I'M NOT A COMMUNIST DON'T YOU DARE CALL ME A COMMUNIST
lmao what it's like being the world's biggest retard AND gayest nigger? fucking commie jew

>>508136665
What state are you from? No one in the mountain west likes anything about this

>>508138011
lol you're brown

>>508122546
You can its just illegal to go off road with a vehicle so you would have to hop it on foot and drag the deer back to

>>508138011
Because im not a communist. I'm just actually someone who goes /out/ and recognizes the importance of having too much control in the hands of people who OWN loads land can be detrimental to the human spirit. 94% of England is private and technically off limits. If that's not a slave communist way of living then idk what planet you are on. You are projecting and I ask that you go outside and actually see if you live in free country, because not having access to most land god gave us means you do not, but instead live in jail cell called America.

>>508135694
>includes a 10-year moratorium on state-level enforcement of any law or regulation regulating artificial intelligence (AI).[48][49][50]
this bill should be burned and trump should lose everything. this faggot had a goddamn stroke or something, he's 100% 180° backwards and different than his first term, he's essentially turned into a democrat if he is pushing or at all attemtping to validate this homoeroticall titled "big beautiful bill" act. theres like 100 different retarded nonsensical offensive things in this bill-from-hell. satan's omnibus.

>>508122285
>as a principled conservative
>>508122491
>as a principled anti-communist
>>508122932
>as a principled mormon racist
>>508123496
>as a principled antisemite and anti-bolshevik russophobe
>>508123875
>as a principled propertarian
>>508124808
>as a principled leaf hater and strip mall enjoyer
>Doesn't matter what reason just sell all your land
Damn they can drop 300k+ to buy a congressman, but can't afford to make a script for a image board.

>>508136173
you own land that's sitting idle, not being used for anything. the property tax penalty makes it financially unwise to keep the land idle, so you sell it or rent it or use it for some commercial purpose. the tax penalty acted as an incentive
honestly the fact you're pretending to not understand my point by getting so bogged down in semantics is very faggy and jewish behavior

>>508138341
>private property is evil and should be abolished
>but i'm not a communist because i went outside one time
lol

>>508131371
>Usury on your property is perfectly fine
>Well no your name won't be in the title Mr shekelburg's name is in it because he has vested interest in you paying usury to him.
Jew confirmed.

>>508137706

>>508134067
>No the government should own land
>No you should be able to do anything on land you own without a permission slip from daddy government
Swing harder rabbi, it's painfully obvious you are shilling for a kike windfall.

>>508139108
non sequitur. low IQ brown confirmed. limited reading comprehension skills confirmed. you are clearly a nigger. i almost feel bad for you

>>508134084
Because it is.

>>508136665
>yes our massive western states are actually more comparable to the size of new jersey most americans don't even know this
New Jersey is the 5th smallest state with 8,700 sq mi, the western states are between 70,000-100,000 sq mi.
So now it is confirmed you are a lying Jew

>>508138884
>The government is too powerful it must sell land it owns
>You better pay your taxes or the government can take your property
Keep swinging rabbi

>>508139485
non sequitur/literacy issues. just how black are you to have an iq this low?

>>508139604
LMAO, jew mad. You just are not swinging that chicken hard enough.

>>508140396
Lol, LMAO no kike you can't get a sweetheart deal on prime land

>>508140124
>New Jersey is the 5th smallest state with 8,700 sq mi, the western states are between 70,000-100,000 sq mi.
>So now it is confirmed you are a lying Jew
hahahah dude you actually cannot read. if the federal government owns 80-90% of a state with 70-100k sq mi, how much is left for the state? a fraction that is comparable to smaller states, just like i said. do you typically need people to break down simple concepts to you like this? it must be so embarrassing to be this dumb

>>508125518
the founding fathers didn't have to deal with megacorporations buying up and stripping the land of any value so they can mine/build their shitty factories and warehouses.
Anyone who suggests the destruction of more wilderness is the biggest jew to ever jew.

>>508129026
>Ok destroy central bank first.
>Only gold and silver are constitutional money, constitutionjew
sounds based. we had a century of stable money early in the country's history. an ebb and flow of slight inflation and slight deflation that averaged out in the long term. cpi prices were only 20% more expensive leading up to ww1 than they were in 1775. it's a shame we are so conditioned to think that constant inflation is normal. people used to pay a similar amount of money for things as their grandparents. that feeling is totally lost today thanks to our jewish monetary system and deficit spending

>>508141591
>the founding fathers didn't have to deal with megacorporations buying up and stripping the land of any value so they can mine/build their shitty factories and warehouses.
>Anyone who suggests the destruction of more wilderness is the biggest jew to ever jew.
generic shitlib talking point
>it's the greedy corporations, man!
where did you learn that one, never heard it before. very original

>>508142486
That's right, goyim, defend your jewish corporate entities sucking everything good at of the world to make shekels

>>508142299
Still do if you look at the price of things in silver quarters

>>508122050
>nazi against selling land
>>508122158
>commie against selling land
NOBODY wants this sold. It wont even help the budget 1%, let alone put a dent in the debt.
Selling this land would be like selling your house to pay off your car.

>>508122195
/thread

>>508144258
>That's right, goyim, defend your jewish corporate entities sucking everything good at of the world to make shekels
i understand it's fun calling people jews on the internet, believe me i do it too. but you should try and think a bit past surface level trite/cliche platitudes like "it's the greedy corporations, man!"
there's a lot of good discourse on property taxes, fundamentals of property, and other topics itt, you should read some of it, you might enjoy learning something new or challenging some of your stale and rigid generic beliefs

>>508121919 (OP)
They’re gonna sell it to China and black rock you monumental retard. Kill all politicians supporting this

>>508122050
fpbp
last thing we want is some greasy (((developers))) moving in and building a bunch of shitty (((low income housing))) in preparation of future floods of immigrants and various other swarthoids

>>508145003
see
>>508122688

>>508145869
"They only want to sell scrubland no one uses."

Okay, then why don't they circle on the map exactly what is for sale and then we can discuss it?

"They're not selling any land that any fishermen or hunters or campers actually use. It has to be near infrastructure."

Okay, then why don't they circle on the map exactly what is for sale and then we can discuss it?

"They're not selling any 'pristine forests.' You couldn't build there even if you tried."

Okay, then why don't they circle on the map exactly what is for sale and then we can discuss it?

"All the land you care about is exempt."

Okay, then why don't they circle on the map exactly what is for sale and then we can discuss it?

"This is only remote lands that are not efficiently managed."

Okay, then why don't they circle on the map exactly what is for sale and then we can discuss it?

>>508145869
>30postsby this ID
Wow shills are working over time

>>508145744
It's a clichéd platitude precisely because its true. Large monolithic corporations are and always have been, the plague of Capitalism. They exploit, enslave, and lobby to weaken the individual and strengthen their horde.
Anyone who denies this basic fact of modern post-industrial society is a fool. The discourse doesn't change that.
I can't, in a million years, understand the logic of allowing corporations to buy even more land. Truly delusional

>>508144489
>Still do if you look at the price of things in silver quarters
true! i tipped a pizza guy a few of my war nickels one time he was pretty jazzed about it when i told them they were 30% silver

>>508145869
>15th century
the posters a child and his opinion shouldn't even be acknowledged.

>>508121919 (OP)
Keeping the land protected is one of the only good things the federal government is doing

>>508147339
>Keeping the land protected
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! They sell timber, mineral rights and also sell permits so tourists can go look at the things they already paid for the fucking assoles.

>>508121919 (OP)
Haha, fucking Western half faggots

>>508146521
>Large monolithic corporations are and always have been, the plague of Capitalism.
unnatural monopolies should be broken up imo. i can see why natural monopolies are more rigidly regulated as utilities or govt owned

it's waisted.
meanwhile I can't afford a house

>>508121919 (OP)
Why does North Carolina have higher federal land than other eastern states? Is it because of all the military bases there?

>>508148317
>Why does North Carolina have higher federal land than other eastern states? Is it because of all the military bases there?
southwest nc has a big national park smoky mountains or blue ridge mountains or some shit i think that's a big part of it

>>508141591
take it back to plebbit кoмpaд

Oregon fag here. FUCK Weyer(nigger)haeuser

>>508122637
>Fun fact: texass has so little public land that you have to know someone or pay a bunch of money to someone just to "hunt."
Can't you hunt feral boars for free in Texas?

>>508121919 (OP)
kek they plan on shipping a shit ton of indians into the mid west/great plains
t. knower

>>508121919 (OP)
why sell? let the people have the patch they already own, and let them do whatever they want with it

>>508121919 (OP)
>the federal government
that means I own it, you fucking nigger
keep your filthy jewish hands off my beautiful state

>>508152468
>that means I own it
can you exclude others from it? no?
then you don't own it retard. welcome to property 101

The result would be cutting the north American wilderness in exchange for more slums

>>508151394
>Oregon fag here. FUCK Weyer(nigger)haeuser
>comes from the timberlands with a proud and storied history of logging
>fuck timber and wood products REIT
what did they do? their old corporate headquarters in seattle had really cool architecture but i'm not familiar with their wrongdoings

>>508122367
Fuck off, jew.

>>508151394
>>508153956
this is the least flattering image of it, the main pic on the wiki

>>508121919 (OP)
>t. pays property taxes

The government owns 100% of the country, you just pay annual rent to them in the form of "property tax" for your little lot of it.

>>508138011
sorry nigger but your holy institution of private property is not actually that holy and is used to absolutely fuck other people over every way before Wednesday. Sorry you got brainwashed by a bunch of anti-communist propaganda made by globalist capitalist jews, hopefully you'll un-retard one day

>>508154410
good or bad (mostly good), private property is basically natural law so i don't really have a say in the matter, and for what it's worth i'm not a propertarian absolutist. i've made it clear itt i support a modest property tax for a variety of reasons, and antitrust laws to break up unnatural monopolies, and even strict regulations like utilities and govt ownership for natural monopolies. if you've read anything itt i want decentralization of the federal government that i think has become far too powerful and centralized since the civil war. decentralization is also desirable in many cases in the private sector. but anyways feel free to kill yourself for being a big ol faggot, and tongue a niggers aids-ridden anus

ayyy lmao

>>508154342
see
>>508131371
>>508128077

>>508153956
>>508154305
Damn that is pretty cool, I love those kinds of sinister-looking corporate HQ buildings. I've always kind of wanted to work in one but I'm not suited to the kinds of work that gets done in them.

>>508152697
>I can use it in any reasonable manner I choose
>even if there's a faggot law about fish and game I can just poach and nobody is gonna say shit
yeah I own it
let me guess you bought a 5 acre spaghetti strip lot and you think you're a "property owner"

also known as
a nigger

>>508122620
Population is growing in already blue counties to flip the state purple you would have to grow the southern utah population at the same rate. Unless a major industry moves there I don't see it happening.

have you guys ever visited those forests? they aren't all pretty national parks and perfect tourist destinations. they are nasty, dry, overgrown, and often completely inaccessible. i am an outdoorsy kind of person and don't bother with the vast majority of that space because you can't even drive into it. there are no logging roads even. no services, no toilets, no water, no businesses, no people. just a 1000 miles of trees, underbrush, thorns, and rocky wastelands.

wouldn't it be better to open up those lands, build some roads, build some houses, build some new communities? you could actually afford to buy a house if there was sufficient supply to meet the demand for them.

The results of this policy can be easily seen in Texas, the flattest, ugliest, most privatized state.

In contrast California is a clear cut example of the importance of federal land. Some of the most beautiful parks, forests and BLM campgrounds are not only large but also surrounded by even more pristine national forests. In contrast, northern lake tahoe is severely overdeveloped, its almost indistinguishable from a major city. The southern portion of the lake (the California area) is much more protected, surrounded by national forests for miles

>>508155415
Cope, land rentoid.

>>508156218
>i am an outdoorsy kind of person
but
>don't bother with the vast majority of that space
because
>no toilets, no water, no businesses, no people
Do you see how retarded you sound?

>>508155881
too retarded to engage with further
>>508156218
>have you guys ever visited those forests? they aren't all pretty national parks and perfect tourist destinations. they are nasty, dry, overgrown, and often completely inaccessible. i am an outdoorsy kind of person and don't bother with the vast majority of that space because you can't even drive into it. there are no logging roads even. no services, no toilets, no water, no businesses, no people. just a 1000 miles of trees, underbrush, thorns, and rocky wastelands.
>
>wouldn't it be better to open up those lands, build some roads, build some houses, build some new communities? you could actually afford to buy a house if there was sufficient supply to meet the demand for them.
good take. but you're never going to convince anyone, i've seen it all over twitter the majority of people actually think they're going to "irreparably destroy our pristine national parks and hunting lands" all these "based laser eyes right wingers" on twitter behaving exactly like histrionic lefty environmentalists always do when a republican wants to increase domestic oil production or build a pipeline or something. they're all threatening to riot or vote democrat if 0.5% of federal lands get sold off to private ownership. i think people are overreacting to leftist agitprop

>>508141115
>All of BLM land is completely off limits to the states
Keep swinging rabbi

>>508156968
>Cope, land rentoid.
my property law professor would make you look like such a retard. granted he is jewish, to be completely honest, so i'm not sure how i feel about that but still i don't think you understand fundamentals of property or the utility of a modest property tax beyond the purpose of revenue

>>508156218
If I wanted to go to a national park, enjoy the overcrowding, lines to the bathroom, endless loops to find a parking space, and get my car broken into anyway, I'd go do that. I plan a trip away from businesses, people, and services. Those miles of rocky, wooded "wastelands" are some of the nicest and most beautiful places left on earth and I'd like to keep it that way. I want my kids and their kids to go to those places too. I spend days and sometimes weeks in those. They're one of the few nice things left about America.

>>508121919 (OP)
>sell federal lands
A good idea, but also sell the federal buildings and shutdown the departments that use them while you're at it.

>>508157844
>the states own the federally owned lands
are you still trying to act like you aren't retarded?

>>508155211
>decentralization is also desirable in many cases in the private sector.
With all the pilpul the jew let's it's goals slip through, it's only goal is to remove anything slowing it from draining the wealth of the nation.

>>508158515
They work together but frankly the national forest service and BLM being federal are the only reason you can go outside to do target shooting in the western states in the first place.

>>508155415
>No how dare you be able to acquire land and hand it down generationally, you need to be bleed dry paying taxes
Rabbi, you really can't hide it.

>>508157994
>No taxing you is a good thing
Typical kike

>>508158515
So show me where BLM owning land completely removes it from use by states and their citizens. You can't, you only bullshit argument is the government hold the title, and completely ignore the fact that the vast majority of that land is in active use.
It's obvious you don't give two fucks about states rights, you are just pissed that land is locked away from jews doing as the please with it.

>>508157334
Because laser eyes dissident righters are younger and don't have boomer wealth to buy up the land going on sale. It would just be their hiking and hunting grounds going behind locked gates guarded by armed boomers with gray goatees and potbellies.

>>508157994
>the utility of a modest property tax beyond the purpose of revenue
yeah the "utility" is to make you a perpetual serf on what is supposed to be your property. if i want to live in a grass hut eating bugs on MY LAND without playing the jewish fucking game of musical chairs that is the modern economy that's my natural right, FAGGOT

>>508158136
yes, you go to the nice places that are accessible. i'm talking about the other 99%.

Good morning shitlibs. Blue collar tax dollars aren't going to subsidize your söycreational activities anymore under Trump.
>let me pick up a cute top at REI and stop at Starbucks on my way to the trailhead
Fuck off.

As conservatives, we have always supported returning federal lands to local control by private landowners. If you want a fishing hole or a hiking trail, get a job and buy one. It's not up to government to provide you handouts when you can't afford something.

Hunting should be managed by private ranchers like it is in Texas. Off-roading can be pay-per-use. Backcountry skiing and hiking are söyboy activities and shouldn't be tax-supported by red states. The concept of "public" land is collective ownership no different from what the Chinese Communist Party practices. It's a Marxist concept that has no place in these United States.

A $38 trillion national debt isn't going to pay itself off. Responsibly managing our national finances means we sell off assets to pay debts. Conservatism has always advocated paying your debts. MAGA

>>508159997
>Stupid goyim you already have the national parks, the rest of the land needs to be sold and developed
Do you feel physically pain when usury is questioned?

>>508132871
>>508159579
>>508158987
>>508158840
see
>>508131371
>>508128077
some people advocate for elimination of property tax for primary residences only which seems reasonable to me. and in general i think property taxes should be modest. some of the horror stories you hear from some states regarding massive property taxes basically bankrupting people are horrible but i definitely think for things like secondary or rental properties and especially for large companies they should be subject to property taxes

>>508155211
if you havent realize this country associates anti-trust with communism by this point and privatized land is just going to get gobbled up and consolidated by the evil anti-american kleptocrats who control the economy. you're an idealist off in la-la land when plutocrats are stealing everything not nailed to the ground

>>508128077
>they already factored in property taxes as a hedge against the landed gentry in britain.
>>508160634
So when the founding fathers got pissed about a small tax and threw the British government out the first thing they decided was they should tax every land owner so they can't just horde land?
Exactly how inbred are you that you think that argument is anything coherent?

>>508160634
Then let's go over this retardation
>>508131371
>like a lease you can easily determine whether or not you have property.
That is not ownership. This is not a debate. A lease is permission to use someone else's property. It doesn't matter how much legalize pilpul you spew. A lease is not ownership.
> if the government physically takes (eminent domain) or commits a regulatory taking that limits the use of property sufficiently to significantly decrease its value, the government must compensate you
eminent domain has a long history of being exploited for land grabs.

>>508160634
local government could easily meet its needs with a 1% sales tax. no property tax. half the shit they spend money on is retarded anyway. like you said, property tax exists to keep us chained to the system that hates us

>>508156218
Not all of them, sure, but there are plenty of places on the chopping block that ARE accessible pretty forests, lakes, etc. The lake in this photo and its surroundings are on the map of proposed sales, as are the other lakes and pretty much everything else along the Cascade Lakes Scenic Highway. A significant number of other notable local landmarks and major attractions like that in my area are on the map too.

>>508161296
for the tenth time, literacy/reading comprehension issues. the word "ownership" =/= "property"
if you have a lease/rental you have a possessory interest, which is clearly a property right because you can exclude others from the rental, and you can exploit the rental as you see fit, limited by rental contract provisions and zoning, obviously. owning title memorializes ownership of property, but you could hypothetically hold a paper title document and not pass the property test, like in california when landlords were restricted from kicking out squatters and delinquents by the government. they held title, but they were unable to exclude people from their property and exploit it, at least legally speaking. technically they could exert property right by illegally forcing out squatters or killing them or something

>>508157334
I accept your concession, nigger. I'm sorry your apartment is so small.

>>508161702
property tax usually pays for stuff like police roads firefighters k-12, local stuff. granted i think public education should basically be abolished because education isn't remotely a natural monopoly and it's a massive failure imo considering the spending levels, up to $20k/yr per pupil. and they graduate illiterate niggers. the fact that k-12 spending keeps increasing year after year despite the fact that all information can be accessed by a dirt cheap tablet or smartphone is so retarded, k-12 is a jobs program for teachers, plus there's the fucking teachers unions

>>508159519
i'm somewhat sympathetic to this argument bc of the generational rage at boomers who ruined literally everything
>>508160333
>As conservatives, we have always supported returning federal lands to local control by private landowners. If you want a fishing hole or a hiking trail, get a job and buy one. It's not up to government to provide you handouts when you can't afford something.
>
>Hunting should be managed by private ranchers like it is in Texas. Off-roading can be pay-per-use. Backcountry skiing and hiking are söyboy activities and shouldn't be tax-supported by red states. The concept of "public" land is collective ownership no different from what the Chinese Communist Party practices. It's a Marxist concept that has no place in these United States.
>
>A $38 trillion national debt isn't going to pay itself off. Responsibly managing our national finances means we sell off assets to pay debts. Conservatism has always advocated paying your debts. MAGA
this is all sounding very based desu

If Blackrock is given this land, this is what is going on it

>>508162885
true. i should add that starting with primary residences is a good thing and we can agree on that

>>508122932
We don't need affordable housing in Utah. If you're looking for space check out any abandoned city along the rust belt. Utah will get zero dollars and a million jeets from this deal.

>>508163544
>jews literally decide if you can harvest natural resources if you can afford to pay them tens of thousands of dollars

no thank you

>>508163785
>true. i should add that starting with primary residences is a good thing and we can agree on that
based sounds nigtastic

wow what a dumb post and a dumb gif

>>508164187
yeah i see what you're saying my main motivation for this thread came from me realizing just how much land the federal govt owned, i'm not even that familiar with the specifics of the bill i just want the federal government decentralized in general, both in law and regarding all the land it owns. i saw the map of fed land and it was a lot worse than i realized. i knew nevada was basically all fed but i didn't know the full extent of the country until very recently. if they really are planning on selling overpriced citizenship to affluent foreigners and jeets as part of this deal to help offset deficit spending they would obviously need to deport 10-50 browns for every single foreigner allowed in under the program for me to be remotely interested in it.
i was browsing muncie and south bend recently lots of cheap real estate but i had no idea how bad the nigcrime was in some of these places. i guess it is pretty close to gary and chicago so it makes sense.

>>508160756
>if you havent realize this country associates anti-trust with communism by this point and privatized land is just going to get gobbled up and consolidated by the evil anti-american kleptocrats who control the economy. you're an idealist off in la-la land when plutocrats are stealing everything not nailed to the ground
fair enough. do you think our retarded money printing deficit spending and neverending inflation is a major contributor to these issues and if so do you think a massive purposeful deflationary policy would help resolve it or is that completely retarded, spitballing here. inflation seems to hurt the poor and lower middle class the most and benefits anyone who owns assets especially the mega rich, so basically if inflation is bad then deflation is good?

>>508164413
also yeah giving the land back to the states is good too as long as there's safeguards to prevent them from selling it to their (((developer))) buddies for peanuts or fucking it up in some way. conservation easement basically

>>508121919 (OP)
Are you the same OP from the other thread today where you got btfo and called a kike dozens of times? >>508106473
>48 posts by this ID
yep, you're him

>>508121919 (OP)
In Texas, the federal government put chinese nationals on their land in Texas, right next to one of our military bases.

>>508121919 (OP)
Fucking based sell every part of our national identity to alleviate 0.001% of our federal debt!
I wish orange nigger would start selling American citizenship to the highest bidder too, oh wait:
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/12/trump-immigration-gold-card-signup-site
LETS GOO CAN'T STOP WINNING THIS IS WHAT I VOTED FOR

>>508168144
>>508168458
welcome to and thanks for bumping my thread i can't believe it's still up. i'm not from the other thread but i'm guessing you won't believe that. i just browsed through the other one from your link we have a lot more lengthy tldrs and images itt. but yes i have been called a kike at least fifty times itt so feel free to add yourself to the list if you feel so inclined. itt i ended up talking a lot more about federal decentralization in general and property rights and taxation and stuff adjacent to the fed land sale bill but not the specifics of the bill or the distinction between different types of federally owned lands nearly as much as the other thread it seems