They print money and give it to themselves

>>508177902 (OP)
remember that like 30% of 'americans' are literally dirtpoor hispanics that crawled over the border and started leeching our welfare system and lowering our wages.

If the american half properly blamed and sought to remove the foreign half, we'd all be a lot richer (and the rich would be poorer)

>>508177902 (OP)
rich dont have enough, its just that shitskin commies want gibs.

>>508177970
Which means they just devalue your savings

>>508178373
Worse. They both de-value your savings AND steal your actual, physical assets at the same time.

>>508177902 (OP)
>985 responses
>~4% margin of error
Oy vey.
https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/assets.newrepublic.com/pdf/The+New+Republic+Wealth+Poll+Toplines.pdf

>>508178066
Capitalism is basically like a system where a beekeeper takes 95% of the honey bees make.

The bees made the honey, the beekeeper did literally nothing, but he's taking 95% of their honey.

You can think of the bees as all workers in the world, honey as all value they generate, and the beekeeper as shareholders, creditors, overpaid execs, and rent-seeking property owners.

You (retard) are getting mad at new immigrant bees entering the hive and competing for honey instead.

>>508178066
it's not just niggers on gibs and spics/jeets depressing wages that are the problem, its the jews at the top too who do no labor but leech incredible profits
in fact, the kikes are several orders of magnitude more expensive to the White people that actually do all the productive work

For example, a israeli jew called Chaim Zabludowicz (croatian for "deceiver son") owns 40% of all land in downtown Las Vegas.
This means that every person living on that land, improving that land, using it for business, etc. basically half the people doing anything in Las Vegas are paying billions in rent to a jew that does absolutely no labor.
This makes no sense, and is absolute insanity, why the FUCK should someone from a foreign hostile tribe own your tribal lands just to rent them back to your tribe?! Total and utter insanity. Foreigners should not be able to own White lands.

>>508179016
And if thats not enough...it only gets worse.
Because some jews fuck the White people twice.
Not only do they have to deal with depressed wages and rising housing prices because of all the non-whites, but in cases of socialized housing like section 8, the non-whites gets housed on Whites dime and the jew gets the rent-check.

So not only did you have to buy a much much more expensive house than it should have been, but you're now paying taxes to pay the jew a rent-check to house non-whites.

Example Section 8 rent-check for 2BR ghetto-ass apartment in NYC is $3,027/month
>https://www.nyc.gov/site/nycha/section-8/voucher-payment-standards-vps-utility-allowance-schedule.page

So it goes like this
>be Jewish
>jewish in-law who works at the bank makes sure you get approved for a loan
>buy 20 nigger storage units
>niggers come in with section 8 vouchers in hand
>get paid $3,027/month per
>$60,540/mo or $726,480/yr of completely free money, extracted from the backs of the White taxpaying working-class
>money which the kike worked 0 hours for
>all the while enjoying watching White society disintegrate itself and Whites paying Jews for their own destruction
>the entire business model is scamming Whites
>they already functionally have a thousand gentile slaves each paying tribute

This is how NSDAP Germany was able to do the incredible feat of SEXTUPLING their economy in just SIX YEARS, by simply implementing national socialism economic policy and removing the parasite.

>>508178941
What do you do for work? How much value do you create? Who do you believe is sneaking in and stealing your value?

>>508178066
lmfao
do those hispanics and niggers vote against raising the minimum wage every time someone files for it in congress, or jews?

>>508179016
This is actually the real NSDAP Germany's "crime", that they tried to extricate themselves from the jewish cartel of international banking and (((independent))) central banks colluding with them.

The jewish bankers did not give a fuck about Poland nor even the jews in summer camps waiting to be deported.
What they cared about is that national socialism had to be destroyed before it spreads, because the White world adopting national socialism would mean cutting out the (((international jew))) completely, and he'd never be able to have any wealth or power over White people again.
He'd be relegated to live with his own kind and only getting what the jew can produce with its own labor, which is nothing, and he'd live in poverty.

mad communists itt

>>508179184
National socialist doctrine is the acknowledgement that everyone should live in peaceful ethnostates with their own people, and not live in other people's countries.
And the economic policy side of it is to structure the economy in a way that disincentivizes parasitism like rentiering, and also shuts out foreign investors, keeping all the prosperity inside the nations borders, no international jew stealing the profits that your people worked for.
Money will be printed debt-free interest-free by the State Bank, instead of the current central banking system where the money is created by "loaning" it from the jews, i.e. you are on the hook to jewish private bankers for the loan and its interest even though it came from thin air.
>https://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder.pdf

There is absolutely nothing wrong or immoral about people feeling more comfortable and inspired when being surrounded by people like themselves. In fact, it’s what is best for everyone intellectually, emotionally, physically and spiritually.
When communities are homogeneous, there is an instinctive obligation to look out for one another. Society goes from zero sum adversaries to cooperative big families.

People are happier; civic engagement explodes; prosperity is more evenly distributed and enjoyed and culture flourishes.
It’s all been definitively proven by all sociological studies and the entirety of human history.

>>508179089
>Who do you believe is sneaking in and stealing your value?

Shareholders, creditors, and rent-seeking property owners.

i.e. people who do literally nothing productive and steal money from people do productive things

>>508177902 (OP)
Nah I don't want higher taxes for rich, not going to work against my own interests once I make it.

>>508178941
>You (retard) are getting mad at new immigrant bees entering the hive and competing for honey instead.
Yes, of course! And as we know from nature, when foreign bees enter a beehive that isn't theirs, the bees living there are just overjoyed!
Fuck, you kikes are stupid.

>>508179322
Why don't you get mad at the guy who has you trapped in a hive stealing 95% of your honey first?

Instead of the immigrant bees competing for you over the 5% left?

Yes, that is fucking dumb, even if the new immigrant bees do make competition worse, you are misdiagnosing the problem (capitalism)

>>508177902 (OP)
If you lived since Jesus was born and worked 8 hours a day, your wage per hour should be 67 500 dollarinos to compete with Musk

>>508178237
Gibs me dat for free
—your government, as it takes a sum of your income and calls it taxes

>>508179287
>people who do literally nothing productive
What do you produce? Why are you letting all those people steal from you?

>>508179525
Yes national socialism is the solution.
Immigrants don't belong in any case.

>>508178066
>The rich would be poorer
Lmao imagine believing they'd let that happen

>>508179740
>your government, as it takes a sum of your income and calls it taxes
So the solution is that they should take everything from everybody and then divvy it up fair and square and I'm going to somehow come out ahead?

>>508178667
They steal my fucking assets holy shit im mad as hell and im not going to take it anymore!

>>508179525
Better question: why the fuck wouldn't I be mad at subhumans that got carted into my home by a bunch of heebs, and are now screaming at the top of their lungs how they are gonna murder me and rape my children, and that I'm also a racist for having a problem with this? You piece of shit.

>>508179886
Hey, retard. Can you guess how many houses Blackrock owns now? Go ahead. Fucking guess.

>>508178941
>>508179016
This works for large corps but if you have common sense and logic, small business owners who started of doing the labor and then expanded to hire employees put in the work. Your pic related can keep “who makes the product until it gets to “how did you start the business “I made the product” then I bought the machine then I hired the guy. Same with the real estate owners (except Jews) they acquired wealth by other means on their own and then they invested it properly.

>>508179871
The solution is to clean up tax loopholes that the ultra rich are exploiting, have everyone gib an equal share percentage wise, and have full transparency of where those gibs are going - no more scams where some guy lines his pockets. And have people decide where their gibs are going since it's, you know, their fucking money that they worked for. Would be interesting to see how much would go to Israel in that case, wouldn't you agree

>>508179287
>Shareholders, creditors, and rent-seeking property owners
The share holders staked the business, rent dealing property owners worked until they could afford the property. I’ll give you creditors tho nothing more than loan sharks and Jews

>>508180211
>The solution is to clean up tax loopholes
I'll stop you right here. You mean the tax loopholes that the kikes themselves created FOR themselves and are specifically keeping you from using? Yeah, no way they could possibly do that again, right? It's incredible that retards like you (not you specifically) call me childish for noticing that everything's fucked, and then their solutions are to "JUST VOTE HARDER BRO." Holy shit.

>>508180320
>The share holders staked the business, rent dealing property owners worked until they could afford the property

That's a real cool story bro

So if I work for the $500 to buy a gun, I can then use it to steal from people?

>>508177902 (OP)
I'd take from the rich. But I'm a barbarian, not a communist.

>>508179987
>Can you guess how many houses Blackrock owns now?
Tell us how many houses they own and provide your source.
Do you think that investment brokers are just a fat guy wearing a tophat with giant money bags in a vault somewhere?
>>508180211
>tax loopholes that the ultra rich are exploiting,
Can you cite a few of these that you believe are a problem?
>have everyone gib an equal share percentage wise
So basically tax the poors more? How is that likely to improve my lot in life?

>>508179871
Everywhere jews and internationalism is involved the jews are stealing.
Communism and capitalism are two heads of the same jewish snake.

Venezuela used to be amongst the worlds wealthiest nations in 1920s, and it should be today considering it has the #1 largest oil reserves on the planet.
So how is it possible that today the populace can't even afford toilet paper?
Because they are ruled by a jewish dictator, simple as. Same as the jewish oligarchs ruling russia, its always better for them the keep the populace poor.
The jewish dictator Maduro surrounds himself with a praetorian guard of death squads, of ultra-violent shitskins that are loyal to him because they're the only ones he shares the wealth with.
How can a population ever rise up if they are poor that they're struggling to even feed themselves and buy bare necessities like toilet paper and roofs over their heads.

They don't. That's the point. It's easier to oppress a poor population. So thats why jews want to keep the population poor.

>>508180320
>How to make housing affordable again?

When the White family no longer has to compete with the rent checks that 20 jeets put together are going to pay the jew that is going to buy the house for rentiering purposes
>oh sar you whitey are too princes you must live in squalor like we jeets do 20 to a house
No, fuck off jeet, get the fuck out of my country.
>shlomo here, you should allow me to buy lands and properties in your country so i can rent them to jeets or even back to your own people
No shlomo, you need to be put in a gas chamber

In a nutshell what we should do
1) laws that ONLY native Whites can own land & property
2) laws that ONLY native Whites can go into parliament, government jobs, or any positions of power
3) laws that ultimately will close the doors from nonwhite foreigners, strip the citizenships from nonwhite people that have gotten them and expell them from the country

And if you think 3 isn't possible, thats just the jew talking to your ear. In 1923 America, before jews removed the White-only immigration laws, there even was a Supreme Court case (United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind), where a jeet had slithered into USA and then tried to "we wuz Aryan" so he would not be deported. The Supreme Court laughed out the jeet out of the country, and they ruled that not only must that jeet be deported immediately but that if there are any jeets in USA that have been accidentally given citizenship, their citizenships must be revoked and them deported immediately too.

It really is that simple, by implementing those 3 options housing prices will immediately fall to normal levels.
Of course NatSoc type laws where families get zero-interest loans and 20% get forgiven for each White child, plus disincentivizing parasitic practices like rentiering would further help the economic situation of families and from that also the White birthrates, but that isnt as important as keeping foreign parasites out of your housing market.

>>508179987
>Blackrock
BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard
They all own each other and should always be mentioned together to remind people of what they are.

And I am not suicidal, i will not kill my self

>>508178941
If you please consult the chart.
Not only does increased immigration bring cost of housing up, but it also brings cost of labor down, being a double-whammy against White working people, you know the people that are actually needed in the economy.
The jewish non-working billionaire class of course benefits from this at the expense of the Whites, but that is literally how jews live, at the expense of others. Removing them will not remove any actual productivity from the economy because jews do not do labor, but it will remove useless eaters, and the jewish useless eater mouth is just as the negro on social security, but with a much much bigger appetite.

Times when population has been reduced has been great for the prosperity of the people, the aftermath of wars and such.
In fact it could be argued that it was the Black Death which killed 1/3 of Europe's population that lead to abolition of serfdom and ultimately industrialization because labor was "too expensive" and you had to innovate to increase productivity.

So actually cheap labor not only decreases prosperity but it also decreases innovation and stagnates the progress of humanity. If you have infinity jeets available to work for pennies, there is never any incentive to innovate and automate things.
As long as you can get someone for cheap to make the sandwiches at subway, that labor will never be replaced by a robot.

It really all starts from the same simple solution that fixes most of the world's problems, simply killing the jews that would sabotage any sensible policies like NatSoc economic policy.
The jew will never let go of its power of currency creation and will send anything it can to stop you from cutting the jew out.

So it really is stupid to try to fix things before killing the jew first that will try to sabotage you every step of the way.
It would be like trying to haul water out of the sinking boat before throwing the kike drilling the holes overboard

>>508180625
Perhaps they should nationalize more industry and then they'll have more wealth to distribute to the workers?

>>508180754
In fact, most of societal ills can be melted away with two simple steps

1) kill all the jews
2) deport all the non-whites

It's literally that easy to fix everything from stagnating wages, to societal decay, to crime, to affordability of housing.

>Why the order is important?
If you don't do 1 first, the jew will try to sabotage you every step of the way of taking your White country back. Remember, it was the jew that destroyed the White-only immigration policies in the first place, and it will be the jew fighting you trying to reinstate it.

However, dead jews do not push for multiculturalism.
Dead jews won't stop you from taking back your country.
That is something that alive jews do.

>The reason you fight for an open society is because that's the only society that you can live in, as a Jew unless you become a nationalist and only fight for your own rights in your own state.
- George Soros (NY Times 17/7/2018)

>>508180563
You talk exactly like a glownigger, so this is your last (you). Ventilate your brain meat, traitor.

>>508180499
>So if I work for the $500 to buy a gun, I can then use it to steal from people?
>seeking to strictly harm others for personal gain
Nigger mentality detected. How is either of those regarding shareholder or property ownership thievery?

>be you nigger with a business plan
>be nigger so you have no money
>be me not nigger with a lot of money
>determine your idea is good so I stake you 50,000 for 50% ownership
>be you not lazy bust your ass for the business grow it to 5 million dollar business
> “my partner is robbing me he doesn’t deserve half my company I did the work”
> without your investor you would not have a business
Now let’s do property
>be you nigger wagie
>be other you nigger who sold 5 million dollar business
>I buy an apartment and rent out units with my proceeds
> you can’t afford to buy anything because you’re a wagie cuck. so you rent one of the units at market rate
>”land lord is stealing from me”
You see how stupid you sound?

>>508180754
>Not only does increased immigration
I'm gen-x from from commie country, we learned that in like elementary school.
Ironically only party that is actually voting against immigration here are the commies that barely hold one seat in parliament while the borderline nazi righwingers while very vocal about it out in media never actually vote against immigration.

>>508180767
Nope industry is better run by industrialists, you should look into national socialism.
>And the economic policy side of it is to structure the economy in a way that disincentivizes parasitism like rentiering, and also shuts out foreign investors, keeping all the prosperity inside the nations borders, no international jew stealing the profits that your people worked for.
Things like rentiering, money for nothing, land rents should of course be banned.
In fact even the "father of capitalism" and writer of Wealth of Nations, said that landlords are simply scoundrels and robbers, who provide negative value to the economy.

The most important part is to get all the parasites out, not just the niggers on gibs at the bottom but the jewish international financiers at the top, the people that nobody needs and are not only useless eaters but exceptionally hungry useless eaters.

The problem today is that White people have over half of our body weight intestinal parasites, our bodies are extremely sick when all the sustenance we farm and forage for is getting eaten by the parasites.
Flushing out the parasites lets our bodies, the economy, heal right back up.
People don't quite understand how massive amount of wealth is being robbed from Whites by the non-whites that have slithered to our societies, starting from the worst culprit that is the private-central-banking international-financing (((international jew))).

Removing the jew alone will already make us vastly more prosperous, and then the only obstacle of us taking back our White ethnostates is gone, so it will be easy to simply kick out the rest of the non-whites back to their own countries.

>>508180973
>How is either of those regarding shareholder or property ownership thievery?

Money is a zero-sum game aside from printing more of it

At any given time, there is a set amount of money, and it can be viewed as a pie-chart

If you make money, it inherently means someone else lost money

Shareholders, creditors, and landlords, in relation to their revenue stream, are not doing anything productive and taking that money from people who do work

That's called stealing, it's just legal

>>508177902 (OP)
NONSENSE
taco man knows better
>I ‘love the concept’ of millionaire tax hike, but ‘may not be acceptable to the public’
you can't handle the rich not being richer!

>>508180563
>Tell us how many houses they own and provide your source.
44% of single-family home purchases were by private equity

I'm fan of kicking out the jews and other non-whites.
And in NatSoc economic policy, families will be given zero-interest housing loans, with 20% of the loan forgiven for each child.
That is a great incentive to have more White children, because five kids means the house is free.
That is an extremely cheap way for the government to create more White people that increase more prosperity, instead of the jewish way where jeets and niggers are being imported to bix nood on gibs and depress wages and never innovate anything, just steal and leech

>>508180563
Sure here's a picture, you can ask chat gpt to give you an in depth explanation, or maybe tips on how to properly rim billionaire amuses since that seems like something that's closer to your interests

>>508181017
>while the borderline nazi righwingers while very vocal about it out in media never actually vote against immigration
You've been fooled by the jew calling everyone that is not a leftist "borderline nazi".
Those would be the controlled opposition, i.e. the "kosher right". The people like Ben Shapiro who claim to be against immigration, while simultaneously donating to jewish immigrant aid society who are pushing immigrants to White countries.

Its actually a good litmus test whether a movement is compromised, unless they advocate for actual NatSoc policies, including dismantling of the (((privatized central banking))), removing all the jews from the territory along with other non-natives, then you already know that movement is compromised and not real NatSoc.

>>508178066
Two things can be true you fucking mong.

There can be too much immigration and there can be a bunch of ultra rich cunts taking us all for a fucking ride and robbing us blind. In fact the second brought the first here to help screw us.

>>508180973
I already gave you a business plan here >>508179073 you retarded kike
you just promptly ignored it

>>508180697
News flash you had nigger immigrants in 1923 they were called Slavs Irish and Italians. Back then the Jews were among them and that’s what started the course we’re on now. Writes can’t breed they’re too big of cucks. They need the immigrants for the slaver labor

>>508181274
jews don't actually just dodge taxes, they dodge ovens too

>>508180767
>Perhaps they should nationalize more industry
Biggest corporation in ex-yu was run by jew but not for his personal benefit but benefit of the community so it's doable.
ex-yu commies concluded long time ago that you can't run industry without serious industrialist - people that are gifted for it. They called them "techno-managers".
In order to limit their political influence they had scheme of "rotations" where heads of the companies where in most cases rotated every couple of years between the various companies.

>>508178941
The Africanized bees aren't beneficial in any way. The come in and destroy the hive. The beekeeper gets attacked.
Sick bees bring infection. The honey quality goes down. The beekeeper gets mad and needs a new hive.
The bees should attack the beekeeper but instead they do nothing. The beekeeper controls the plants the bees collect pollen from, with poison, for other plants, which poisons the bees. The beekeeper doesn't understand what's going on. The honey is decreasing in quality and quantity. The beekeeper is told to stop poisoning the surrounding plants. So the beekeeper poisons whoever tells him to stop poisoning other plants.

The beekeeper raises the price of his honey and says something about quality and more customers.

>>508181349
You need to go back

>>508181115
You are economically illiterate and shouldn't write about the matter again until you spend at least 5 years reading. You don't know that money's value can change, and you don't know that money is not the only recipient of value, and hence you think that if you buy something then you are losing, which is the logic Trump uses to justify seeking 0 global commercial deficit, as if buying resources and means of production to foreign countries equals to losing value because all value is in money.

>>508181115
Money is not zero sum it’s a trade. I give you money for goods and services of value to me. Share holders give you money as an initial investment. They stake a claim that your business will succeed. If you’re a moron you fail the business they lose their investment. A land lord is purchasing a property and rents it out you pay for the service of living in a home. Neither of those is zero sum. It’s opportunity cost and goods and services learn some economics buddy

>>508181336
What business plan? Robbing people? The only people I know who do such a thing are niggers and immigrants especially those of the big nose variety

>>508181449
You should never come

>>508181349
>1923 they were called Slavs Irish and Italians
EU/UK had polaks during late 90s early 00s.
Also when you watch old burger movies and when talk about immigrants, it's either irish or polaks so pre-jeet era.
>>508181301
>You've been fooled by the jew
No, not here, right wing here are true nazi worshipers unlike in US and not the apologetic type like in Germany.

>>508181627
>Robbing people?
They call it landlording but yes exactly.

>>508181667
I’m talking strictly America because Finn anon is attributing brown immigrants with being the only downfall of americas economy when in the 1920s the white immigrants especially those(Irish, Italian, Slavs(Jews)) were the ones taking the jobs and robbing people.

>>508181522
This is no different than me working honestly to buy the $500 gun, and then using it to rob people.

Me working for the initial $500 payment for the gun doesn't justify me using it to steal from people forever

(Like 99% of large shareholders, creditors, and landlords didn't work honestly for that initial payment either)

>>508181698
Your dad robs people of the semen in their balksack, he rents his mouth out there cock

>>508181667
>right wing here are true nazi worshipers
you just said they are not throwing out the immigrants
so you were fooled into thinking they are nazis, q.e.d

>>508177902 (OP)
The rich 'having too much' will always be true.
Do Americans not realize that in order to have good jobs, there needs to be someone with 'too much' so they can write checks out to them in exchange for labor?

No poor person ever gave me a job. The problem is there aren't enough rich people.
The problem is taxes and growth/competition killing regulations are too high.

>>508181627
I'm gonna give you a real world example: there are two boomer retards who've worked their entire lives. They get a bank loan for an apartment and then lease it to young people who need housing.
Over the course of a decade, the renter pays the bank loan these two turds took out with his monthly rent, until one day they just start making "free" money off of this rube. If they can no longer rent it for profit, they just turn around and sell it for a lot more than it was worth when they bought it.
Do you get it yet, you piece of shit? I just described to you a VERY large percentage of our boomers. There are kids in this country that have paid for entire houses with their rent, who still have nothing after working their whole lives.
And pieces of shit like you still don't understand why we are angry.

>>508177902 (OP)
seth rich knew too much

>>508181781
No because you grabbing a gun and pointing it at someone to give you money so very different from “ hey here is my money use it to start your business but I’m going to be part owner” you see the trade off? Initial capital helps you grow and succeed. Robbing people does nothing to their benefit. Same thing with a land lord. You spend the money to buy the land and the building, you fix it up from the shit hole it was to a nice family home. No one else wanted to or could afford to do it, but now that is nice you charge them to enjoy the accommodations you developed. You see the quid pro quo? I spend bulk now you spend some later. Creditors are thrives though like I said anyone who deals in interest is literally generating money from nothing.

>>508182110
It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

You seem to quite literally be incapable of imagining a system where work gets done where private investment doesn't exist at all.

>>508182110
>You spend the money to buy the land and the building, you fix it up from the shit hole it was to a nice family home.
They don't fix shit.
They don't own the land.
They don't own the building.
They own a singular apartment in the building, and pay the company that manages the building.
Kike faggot.

>>508181966
Nazis are not really against immigration. My grand-grandma worked in nazi Germany during ww2, she was from Slovenia. So not as slave labor but paid laborer.
With what she earned there she built house back in Slovenia in the middle of the war.
So nazis being against immigration idk about that. Would say only commies are against immigration really tho not because of racial but economic issues. Everyone else loves coin just too much to resist it.

>>508182024
I understand what you’re saying you homosexual, but the young people are the retards who fell for the meme of moving out early in the first place. The value of an asset will always appreciate those boomer cucks took the risk of buying the property in the first place. And the younger folks rented it. No one is forcing you at gun point to move out at 18 or even fucking 21. Like I said what you’re describing is nigger mentality.

>>508178941
Workers are completely delusional and don’t realize they can be easily replaced

If you don’t like how much a job pays and think you’re “worth more” start your own business. I promise you’re not.

Or at the very least simply shut the fuck up and do not work the job. Go find a job that pays you a “fair” amount, go starve to death on the street, nobody cares

>>508182298
>I understand what you’re saying you homosexual, but the young people are the retards who fell for the meme of moving out early in the first place
Finally. Thanks for admitting that you are a kike.

>>508182024
If it is so easy, why don't you do it?
There is a lot of stuff you are omitting.
It's hard to determine whether you are doing this intentionally or are simply an idiot.
A communist is either a devil or an ignoramus.
All the information about the costs and risks associated with being a landlord are easy to find. Nobody need rely on your ignorant opinion.

>>508182254
What you’re describing is communism. Private investment includes your own investment. Communism is a stain on this world because it destroys nations.

>>508182323
The only work that gets done on Earth, is by definition done by workers (or automation, made by workers).

>>508182488
>If it is so easy, why don't you do it?
Because I don't make 10x the salary of a zoomie, unlike boomers (thanks to their awesome laws that only benefit them) and I don't get approved for any kind of loan, let alone a one that would let me buy a quarter of a million shitbox that was built in the 70s.
Thanks for asking, faggot!

>>508182267
What you’re describing is a slum lord bjorn that is when you live in a shit holes. Even in America there’s renters rights you have shit not working in your home you get it fixed, stop being a cuck

>>508182424
Your the commie kike who wants free shit

>>508182597
>>508182644
This is surprisingly not an actual fed, but a lead-addled boomer. How novel.
>NOOO THAT'S A SLUM LORD
Yeah, you are all slum lords, kike, wanting to live off of younger generations labor while giving nothing back. Commies indeed.

>>508177902 (OP)
The wealth disparity in the US is the worst it's been since the late 19th century. No end in sight either.

>>508182580
Again whose fault is that? Just because you are a cuck and are fiscally irresponsible doesnt mean shit. No one is forcing you to work your wage cuck job, go learn a trade, go start a small business oh wait you can’t because you have no fucking money because you’re an incompetent. That’s why you need an investor to get you started. Fucking faggot. Gobbling cock just like your pops. No wonder you zoomers are coming out as trannies

>>508177902 (OP)
then support cutting usaid nigga

>>508182840
This is who the real enemy is. The fucking retards who keep bailing the motions destroying our economy out

>>508182840
Tho that issues is successfully pushed aside by cultural wars.
That's why I hate lgbtq and similar movements so much, they did more to deepen wealth inequality than actual industrialist.

>>508182743
Your dads asshole is a slum lord for cum

>>508178941
The man who gets told to hurry just has to quit and do the product themselves

>>508177970
exactly what happened during scamdemic
and if a corporation fails - it gets bailed out on taxpayer money
private gains, socialized losses

>>508183044
>Your dads asshole is a slum lord for cum
I mean he's dead, so probably. Fuck him. And fuck you, you old piece of shit.

>>508178066
Yeah and the rich don’t want you doing that because that makes them 0.000005 less money annually.
The battle over immigration is also a class war between ultra wealthy Americans and working class Americans

>>508183180
Then why are you complaining? You probably inherited his real estate you semen receptacle.

>>508182644
Funny how you fucking kike loving niggers never complain when rich people get free taxpayer money for just about everything. No, it's only ever a problem when a working class person needs assistance.

You're the kind of subhuman kike faggot that admires the fact that Boeing killed over 300 people with intentional negligence and no one went to jail for it.

>>508183335
>his real estate
Okay, I'm done for the day. Yeah, you are right, my dad was a billionaire who left me his yacht, and not an alcoholic piece of shit just like you who neglected his duties. You got me.
I'm gonna leave now. Fucking kill yourself.

>>508177970
Republicans offer it all to them on a silver platter.

>>508183502
My dad was the opposite, loving and caring, left me some inheritance and I still turned into piece of shit and 4ch user.

>>508177902 (OP)
Yes. they have a completely unnecessary amount of wealth of the backs of other peoples work.
>>508178066
>If the american half properly blamed and sought to remove the foreign half, we'd all be a lot richer (and the rich would be poorer)
Nah, the rich would just get richer and you'd still be struggling to pay rent.

>>508177902 (OP)
Are you retarded?
Of course they have too much

Hey, Finnish anon/anons, save yourself the headache. The question of how capitalism is pure j*wish demonhood is still not going to get through the thick heads of retards that do not understand that passive income through non-productive endeavors is the vice of the d*vil A fair few White men have been utterly corrupted by the repulsive desire to become the new j*w; many do not wish to exile him and his trickery to hell, but to replace them.
It took years for my brother to understand that the act of purchasing homes with the intent of renting them is an act of destruction and he still cannot understand that tourism is an act of suicide with no product at the end. Rest for now, your words are clear and those who do not agree are intentionally poisoning the well.

>>508178941
Food, water etc = PvE => can be gained cooperatively.
Sex = PvP => can only be gained competitively.
Capitalism exists because people need to compete for sex. The need to compete for sex is why people don't stop accumulating wealth after they have enough for themselves and why the need to work doesn't diminish as technology automates most jobs. This is why leftism is a joke. Leftists claim to hate capitalism, but they worship the sexual competition that creates it.

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>>508183740
My point is that leftwingers are constantly voting against their own economic self interest and i'm trying to bring them up to speed.

Y'all gotta vote for some deportations. Anti-immigration agenda.
Trump is the guy for the working class. Y'all need to stop voting for the plantation

>>508183400
I don’t like anyone getting hand outs never. Including the kike corporations that you fill your butt hole with semen. You’re complaining about boomers and land lords and investor the real problem is the fucking kike loving government giving bail outs to their friends. By giving people shit you ruin the balance of the system. Those that fail need to fail regardless of “jobs” and “too big to fail” that’s what you don’t understand. I’m not for bail outs you big nosed commie kike. I want a free market where failure is treated as such

>>508179525
>Why don't you get mad at the guy who has you trapped in a hive stealing 95% of your honey first?
Because you can't tackle big/global/etc problems until you've dealt with the smaller/local/etc problems first. Behavior that is optimal in the long-term doesn't matter if it causes you die in the short-term. You are expecting a man with a broken leg to prioritize running a marathon before going to see a doctor about his leg. This attitude is a huge part of why the working class turned against the left. The left go out of their way to create all these short-term/immediate/local problems for the working class, then they mock the working class by asking them why they don't just ignore all these problems and save the world while leftists sit on their ass. Maybe I would have more time to save the world from capitalism if I didn't have leftists trying to turn my kids into trannies or flooding my country with men from misogynistic cultures and then socializing the blame onto the men who respect women, or trying to socialize the reparations bill for slavery onto the white working class using trickle-down economics arguments (fun fact, leftists were using trickle-down reasoning in the slavery debates decades before capitalists adopted it) or any of the myriad other evil shit leftists do.

>>508183335
I know he didn’t have real estate jeez I knew you were retarded but I thought you would at least get the sarcasm of inheriting his asshole for yourself you cock goblin

we should just tax people solely on owned assets, not on income and society would moon instantly. the people who own 80% of the country should pay 80% of the taxes. i dont own anything why do i have to pay? fuck off

>>508177902 (OP)
How is it a handout if you are keeping more of the money you make? How much more money do these failed government programs need until we admit they don't work?

>>508184144
Let me ask you retards something. If you want to start a business but don’t have the means west do you do?
>inb4 work and save up
You fucks are complaining about living paycheck to paycheck making rent that’s not gonna happen

>>508177902 (OP)
Yes

>>508185305
100% this. Income tax, sales tax, property tax (for residence) is thievery from the government. A “wealth tax” or assets tax is the only way to truly acquire the funds from those that have it without hurting those that don’t.

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>>508183502
Meant for you faggot

>>508177902 (OP)
How much is enough?
Who determines what that means? For me having a house, a couple shit box vehicles and a place to hunt is enough. But I wasn’t born into nepocapitalist elite family so I have no idea what these rich fucks determine is enough. I have been told that when you have everything the only thing left to get is more money so maybe that’s what it is?

>>508184775
>Trump is the guy for the working class
Which is hilarious because it shouldn't be the case. Imagine how bad the left need to be fucking up for a sleazy billionaire to be the best option for the working class. The funniest part is that most of Trump's platform is just popular leftist platforms from the 1990s that the left abandoned in favor of hating white people. Protectionism and tariffs were a leftist position in the 1990s because the lesson learned from the rust belt was that businesses will always outsource if unions get too strong locally, and thus unions become destructive in the long term unless you have some mechanism to punish outsourcing. Of course some workers will benefit from non-protectionist unionizing in the short term, but without protectionism their actions will lead to outsourcing, fucking over all future generations of workers. Unions in non-protectionist states are not workers vs owners, it's the current generation of workers vs future generations of workers.

Generational warfare and socialized losses + privatized gains are the central evils in the modern zeitgeist, and while leftists will claim to oppose both, their actions often contradict their claims. Unions without tariffs are a form of generational warfare since it fucks over future workers with outsourcing. Claiming that the white working class indirectly benefited from slavery is socialized losses privatized gains since the slave owners keep all the profits while the burden of reparations is socialized. All-male mass migration from patriarchal cultures is socialized losses privatized gains since the migrant men get to rape and objectify women, but feminists socialize the blame onto all men. Etc, etc.

>>508185695
Yea it's a crazy fucking world man

>>508185695
This is why people hate the left. You are out of touch with the zeitgeist and with the consequences of your own beliefs. If you want the masses to support you you need to go through every single thing you believe and ask two questions.
>1. Does this have aspects of generational warfare?
>2. Does this have aspects of socialized losses + privatized gains?
If you do this you will realize that most of what the left has been pushing over the past several decades falls into one or both of these categories.

Mass migration is 1 because it creates a demographic time-bomb for future generations. All-male mass migration from misogynistic cultures is also 2 because those men get to act on their impulses (privatized gains) while all men are expected to atone (socialized losses), which causes a behavioral over-correction in men who already treat women with respect, leading to them becoming dysfunctional. The white guilt narrative is 2 because the profits of slavery etc were privatized, but the guilt is shared between all white people under claims that they somehow benefited indirectly. This is just trickle-down economics reasoning coming from the left. If non slave-owning whites indirectly benefit from the private profits of slavery then why don't non capital-owning workers indirectly benefit from the private profits of capitalism?

When you critically examine the core beliefs and dogmas of the modern left, you find examples of 1 & 2 absolutely everywhere. If you want to win over the masses you need to be explicitly anti-1 and anti-2, since these are the two great evils in the current zeitgeist. People can "sense" their presence even if they can't articulate it etc, which is why working people are so instinctively repulsed by the modern left.

>>508178066
I think rich jews should give back all the wealth they stole then be killed and that spics should be removed. Why can't I want both?

>>508186348
That is only sensible to want, but if you try to do it, OP will get in your way. He will kick and scream and do everything he can to stop you.

>>508178941
>95%
99.5%.
You are off by a factor of 10.

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>>508177902 (OP)
the rich should be taxed more by default cause they already got more money to peddle political influence. it's fucking stacked in their favor. If the rich where taxed more maybe retard like elon couldn't throw millions to try and control the presidency.

>>508182323
Patents exist to stop that style of competition, you can also undercut your competitors out of business simply by dropping your prices to as low as you can survive on, because they have startup debts you don't.
Online businesses require scale to create the scaled cost efficiencies to compete online.
The reason Temu got off the ground at all was because the Chinese government invested billions into it.

Kill all megacorps entirely and give everyone a loan of 40,000 dollars and you'll find thousands of small local competitive businesses spring up in a week.

Once you learn about the competitive market you will realise how cucked by mass automated manufacturing you've become.

>>508186316
>which causes a behavioral over-correction in men who already treat women with respect, leading to them becoming dysfunctional.
In fact I'm going to go one step further and say that this is the primary cause of the "incel crisis".

Some men are more "naturally" (ie some combination of genetics and immutable deep culture) respectful towards women and some less so. If you put these men together in the same society and collectively blame all men every time a misogyny happens, then you will overcorrect the behavior of the "naturally" respectful men, turning them into dysfunctional incels. The reason there are so many incels today is because white and east asian men (who "naturally" respect women) are expected to correct their behavior every time men from more misogynistic cultures do a misogyny. Since their behavior was already correct to begin with, this leads to overcorrection. This overcorrected behavior is the stereotypes we are all familiar with. Nerdy white and east asian men being unable to "take hints", thinking they need to make themselves perfect before they can approach women etc. If leftists weren't bombarding them with socialized guilt then they would be a lot healthier.

Muslim etc men rape => feminist men are expected to atone => feminist men become dysfunctional incels => feminist men snap and turn to the "manosphere". I've seen it happen so many times I've lost count.

>>508186823
I think it should be that the more ancestors you have from the USA, the less taxes you pay.

The ones who have been here longest should pay least taxes and should have most influence over the country since they are more invested in its longterm prosperity.

The problem isn't that some people have more influence than others... the problem is if they have bad intentions for the country or are serving some foreign interests, interests that aren't aligned with the wellbeing of the US

>>508187081
that doesn't solve shit cause elon family and other rich are just gonna stack ancestry by having more kids.

>>508187169
obviously his kids aren't his ancestors so it doesn't really help him

>>508187244
elon inheritors will gain alot of ancestors.

>>508187319
idk what you mean by that. His children will have him as an ancestor

His babymamas are all jews so they are hardly tied to the US in any strong way

>>508186936
IP laws and barrier-to-entry regulations are 99% of why the market doesn't organically solve the problems of "capitalism". Imagine what would've happened if 100000 years ago someone claimed that they owned the idea of the sharpened rock and everyone respected it. We would still be in the stone age today. It's precisely because people at the time didn't respect idea ownership that humanity advanced beyond the stone age, and it's precisely because China has very different attitudes towards IP that they are rapidly advancing today while the rest of the world is stagnating.

Innovators getting fucked over by rich people who can implement their ideas more cheaply and on a larger scale sucks, but idea ownership creates monopolies by design and this inhibits the ability of the market to solve certain problems, forcing societies to look for non-market solutions. In principle IP should enter the public domain after patents expire etc, but what typically happens is that barrier-to-entry regulations start popping up right as the patents expire under the guise of safety/environmentalism/etc. For example modern automation and production techniques applied to public domain 1990s car designs could give us cars for under $1000 a unit. That doesn't happen because 1990s car designs don't comply with modern safety/environmental/etc regulations. 99% (source = i made it up) of the cost of a modern car is regulatory compliance. Just the catalytic converter alone costs more than the entire car used to cost. Those regulations conveniently materialized right as those designs are about to enter public domain. Some of these regulations genuinely are motivated by safety/environmental/etc concerns, but most of it is just using safety/environmentalism/etc to deflect criticism from regulations intended to create barriers to entry before patents expire, effectively making IP monopolies permanent.

>>508177902 (OP)
The politics of taxes:

Guy paying $1,000,000.00 in taxes gets 5% break.
Guy paying $2000.00 in taxes gets 20% break.

Democrats say it’s unfair, because rich guy saves 50K, poorer guy saves $400.00

Meanwhile, the people complaining the most pay NO net income tax, at all.

>>508178066
>200 million Americans are illegals
Dude you are literally 80 IQ kill yourself irl faggot

>>508188743
>all hispanics are illegal
maybe someday

>>508188542
Households who pay federal taxes: 56%
Households who pay federal taxes after refunds: 28%.

28%. Next time a Democrat politician complains about the rich paying their “fair share,” point out that the people they claim to represent likely pay NO federal income tax at all.

>>508177902 (OP)
Do you have too little or are you still expecting someone else to give you more?

>>508189926
Do you believe a select amount of Jews should control a disproportionate amount of the wealth?

>>508178066
Your wealth is a lot closer to a dirtpoor wetback than the likes of Bezos and Musk. They have enough money to last a hundred lifetimes of lavish excess, tanker sized yachts, private jets, even their own space rockets. And yet it's unfeasable to have them pay slightly more taxes? (As a percentage of their income they pay a fraction of what a ordinary worker pays due to loophole kikery they bribed congress to implement).

>>508188743
The usa has 700 million people?

It was 350 last i checked

So 30% would be 115 million illegals or something.

And I gotta say, anons numbers match what I see in DC. American demographics from my observation appear

30% hispanic
30% brown mystery meat
25% boomer
5% degenerate white kids.

>>508180723
>to remind people of what they are.
They're investment brokers. Nothing stopping any of you fucking losers from getting a job and investing in their company stock or any of the thousands of investment funds that they manage. It's like seizing the means of production except you don't have to execute everybody who actually makes civilization function and nobody has to starve to death.
>>508180968
>Not a rebuttal, not an argument.
So your entire position is basically a nebulous "gibs muh dat" in that if the state steals more wealth from others some of that will somehow trickle down to you?
>>508181082
>you should look into national socialism.
I'll bite, who gets to be fuhrer? What procedure will we have to remove him if he or his successor turns out to not be the loving father you believe will hold you in his arms and make everything fair and safe for you?

>>508190777
The more money you allow the government to take and use, the more power you give to parasites that are destroying us. I don't want these parasites to have any power. The government isn't capable of giving money out to people without funding parasites.

Evaluating things on a metric of essentially greed based on taking from "who has more money" is not going to lead you towards a system that functions properly.

Having an eternal mass migration flux is so much bigger of a problem than "elon musk has too much money and it makes me angry". You don't even realize that you are only upset with elon because he threatened to upset the grift of other government parasites.

>>508191595
Well im 54 and its been like this for my whole life.
The trick is convincing everyone the big one is right around the corner.
It never comes, but the can gets kicked again.
They adapt too quickly. They corrupt any novel threat.
BTC is no longer a threat to them.
Soon it will be your new shackles

>>508181192
>44% of single-family home purchases were by private equity
So you believe that Blackrock owns 44% of all single family homes in the USA? Have you done any research whatsoever to attempt to verify this claim? Why would you believe such outrageous clickbait?
>>508181274
>Sure here's a picture
Source: r-Antiwork.
But I'll bite, if you believe you've found an infinite free money glitch, what's stopping any of you fuckwits from doing the same? How do you pay back these loans without selling assets and paying capital gains taxes? Do you suggest that capital gains are taxed even more, or that we should have some sort of wealth tax?
What do you do for work now and how much taxes did you pay last year?

>>508177902 (OP)
You can not tax your way to prosperity....

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>>508182110
>anyone who deals in interest is literally generating money from nothing.
Cool. I could use 1.5M to expand my business, can you loan me that if I promise to pay you back 1.5M and not a penny more over the next 20 years?

Miggers love billionaires.
Tax cuts for the rich are the only path forward. Not like anyone is asking goypigs for their opinion.

>>508181522
>money is not zero sum
Fascinating way to announce youve never taken an economics or accounting class ever.
Denounce the talmud clearly and explicitly kike

>>508177902 (OP)
>Does the Rich have too much?

OP with swede flag is a globalist faggot who bakes divisive threads at the rate of one per minute

>>508181991
>The problem is there aren't enough rich people.
Tax billionaires into poverty and redistribute wealth = more rich people

>The problem is taxes and growth/competition killing regulations are too high.
Wrong. Tax billionaires into poverty, cut loopholes, and boycott israel will solve the problem

>>508188542
Taxing billionaires jews is ethical. Why would you tax the hillbilly car mechanic with 9 teeth any taxes when you could tax the jewish hedge fund manager 99% of his wealth?

>>508181082
There's little bit of jew in all of us. Everybody want to own capital. Everybody wants to work less and get more. It's human nature. Some groups succeed only because they are smarter and better then others. But you and me are not different. We don't want justice - we want wealth. We want justice only because something has been taken from us by force. And that's the story of it all. IT and everything with it will go in circles. There will be new mastersrace in the future. and afterwards and afterwards ad infinitum... You don't break the order - you adapt. Buy some stocks - get paid dividend for doing fuck all. Enjoy spending the money buying sandwhiches at subway from cucks labor.

>>508192131
seems jehowa does not bless

>>508177902 (OP)
Maybe. This is a distraction from creating stability for a middle class though.

>>508179089
>MUH VALUE
Nuke yourself rabbi

>>508180320
Actually no, I am a landlord and live only on rentoid money and I didn't work for any of it
The best part is I'm buying another rentoid farm next year and that's mostly because I already have other properties making me money

>>508192905
That has never worked and never will. If the government just takes everything, then commerce will freeze. When this happens the government enslaves the population to produce goods and services. You know all this already, of course. The enslavement of the population is your aim.