The creation of a European Nation based explicitly on our shared Ethnic heritage (much like the jews have with Israel) is the ONLY WAY we are going to guarantee the future of our race, and consequently the future of the human species in general.

Without this, our enemies will use our historical tribal differences against us endlessly, and use that to justify our lands being swamped by Indians, Blacks, Muslims, and Browns.

The mission of the state will be to defend our specific civilization. Practically, we should guard the Mediterranean Sea with a border patrol fleet and build a land-based military force to counter the Russians in the East.

People will exaggerate our petty differences endlessly, but the ONLY result of this type of thinking is the removal of the Europeans as a race.

We need to unite, or die.

>>508188225 (OP)
fuck off with your kalergiplan bullshit

It will take more bloodshed than the world has ever seen and Whites aren’t guaranteed to survive. Maybe the biggest issue is what other countries would do. It wouldn’t be self-contained. Countries of origin would get involved as well as their allies, and China. Russia is probably the least worrisome of the outside actors.

It’s a joke, but Russia nuking European capitols might be one of the best things that could happen.

>>508188225 (OP)
Go fuck yourself

>>508188452
you do realise the continent is going to be replaced with Indians in maybe two generations, right?

There’s also the issue of a few hundred million Africans just walking into Europe. Thank Bill Gates for that.

>>508188595
anon would rather turn the world into India i guess

>>508188225 (OP)
>The mission of the state will be to defend our specific civilization
European nations proved unable to defend themselves in 2 consecutive world wars, what makes you think that this imaginary single state would do any better against foreign threats ?
Maybe include big daddy Russia if you want it to actually work

>>508188894
sure, they can join if you want, idrc

>>508188225 (OP)
No thanks.

Not all Whites are created equal.

>>508188225 (OP)
>meanwhile in reality
We got a bureaucratic dictatorship that made it even faster to decimate our population.
Great job !
KILL ALL EU FAGS BEFORE THEY GENOCIDE US !

>>508188225 (OP)
Would there be gibs?

>>508189034
It doesn't have to be the EU. You can call it New Rome, or Mega France, or TellyTubbyLand.

The point is to create an EXPLICITLY ETHNIC state, in the same way that England, Germany, Italy and France did,

>>508188995
There are abominations in your population, as well.

>>508189229
>The point is to create an EXPLICITLY ETHNIC state
What you're proposing would be a racial state, not an ethnic one.

And what are you are proposing already exists in the form of the European Union. And it is dogshit, and the people running it hate Europeans and want us to die.

Alliances can exist and European nations can help each other, but I don't want Europeans to merge into one race and for the hundreds of ethnic groups of Europe to die.

>>508188225 (OP)
I would rather have a Scandinavian Nation (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Åland and Faroe Islands)
Disciplinary action would be required for Sweden, but that shouldn't be a problem with the trio of Norway, Denmark and Finland.
Of course we would have a friendly term with rest of Europa but Scandinavia is first prio

>>508189335
Yes, but the difference is that the abominations of England aren't being shipped to Poland by the million.

There are towns and cities in England that have been transformed beyond recognition by Eastern Euro immigration. Boston in Lincolnshire is nicknamed 'Little Poland'.

I don't want to be the only Anglo-Saxon in my town. Poles and other Eastern Euros have their own countries; they should live in them instead of colonising mine.

>>508189229
You absolute retard. Open an history book. Every european central empire was a failed state. The EU is just upteenth proof of it. Euro is not made to be united under ANY circonstances. Divided we conquer the world, united we die. If you can see that very obvious historical fact, you just need to kys.

>>508189591
Then just remove them? We don't want them here either, they're subhuman bydlo. Put them in jail, force them to work in a quarry idk.

>>508188225 (OP)
>Shared ethnic heritage

You fucking kidding me? Scandi have the same heritage as Guido in Italy and Jose in Spain? English and German shared the same heritage? Eastern vatnik has the same heritage as Irish? Fuck out of here!

>>508189443
Come on, be real.

The EU is not an explicitly racial or ethnic state. It's a fat nothing that represents nothing. They don't even know what a European is. To them, a European is a Gay Man from Colombia. But we know what a European is.

The issue is (and as a Brit, you understand this), our enemies will say things like "Migration (from outside of Europe) is justified because our ancestors were from Germany, France or the Nordic countries.

Now, for anyone with a brain, it's easy to counter this. However, for many people, this may not be very clear. If we unite as one state, we remove the argument, because on a map we appear as one people. Which we are really.

>>508189591
As a Native Briton on vacation in Split right now I think we should import 6+ million browns from the former Raj and deport all the Poles, also ban the Poles from coming in too, just my 2 sense

>>508188225 (OP)
dunno, don't care. europe fell a long time ago. the nihilists and the liberals murdered it. everyone's a godless racemixer now.

>>508188225 (OP)

There are more whites now than ever in history you idiots.

>>508188225 (OP)
This post was created by a Mediterranean shitskin, turk roach rape baby. Either from Italy, Albania or from South caucus region. We already have our tall stature and blue color eyes bred out by shitalians. Don't need any more shit color eyes, shitskin breeding the few of us remaining out.

>>508189959
It's more likely either a Swede or a Romanian. Majority of EU posts on /int/ are made by these flags, sometimes Austria too

>>508189688
Europe's obsession with historical legitimacy and cultural relevance is what is killing Europe. You can't update to modern power status because you won't tear down the ruins of the old world.

>>508189959
I am from the UK. I am a member of the Homeland Party. I'm just a realist.

Divide and conquer.

We will die, and the world will end in an environmentally disastrous brown soup, if we don't do something.

>>508188225 (OP)
Right, let's double-down on the problem creating bureaucratic mess rather than cut our losses.

By now no country would have been better off had the EU never existed as its attempt towards a single state rather than a framework of independent countries.

>>508189942
Something like a little more than a century ago white people were half human population, not 9%...
A big number is nothing if other numbers are magnitude highers. And we weren't mixed with thirdies back then.

I mean the solution is just kicking out the niggers from the society, there isn't a need to go further, just deport all non whites based on skin color (plus jews) and you're golden.

>>508188225 (OP)

Remove kebab.
Remove gypsy.
Remove wop.
Remove spic.

Now you have a white union.

>>508189942
There are also more people of other races than ever.

>>508189942
Stop repeating this stupid fucking lie retard

>>508190101
Lmao
What you modern status power gave you ? Being replaced by spics in 3 decades mister 41% white ?
Better poor with my people on my ancestors land, than rich in NY or LA. But you wouldn't get it, because you are exactly like thirdies. You abandoned your dead to go live in foreign lands.

>>508188225 (OP)
EU will never be great because you will not be able to convince Spaniards to speak Finnish, or Hungarians to speak English. As long as there is a language barrier there is no point in trying.

>>508188225 (OP)
make it a Whites only empire with a king that rules with an iron fist or fuck off

I'll make it very simple, guys.

What is more likely to save the white race?

A Federal European Power EXPLICITLY BASED on our Ethnic Heritage?

OR

Independent Serbia ?

>>508190586
hatred of jews can be a very unifying power

>>508190721
For Serbia ?
Staying independant. Because if they join the EU, they will be forced to take their fair share of migrants as per EU laws.
When the EU explode, countries will finally be free from bureaucrat and gain power over their own borders again. Ending the 2015 migrants crisis that is still hitting urope full swing !

>>508190120
We accepted the shitalians as White in America. You know what that created for us? Nigger worship and Brown hate. Because browns hate each other with a passion. That dynamic made the nigger flourish because the Jews exploited it. Notwithstanding the shit color eyes and short stature it brought us by intermixing with browns. What we need is solidarity, only with ethnic non intermixed Western Europeans. We can take care of the entire world by ourselves . brownoids, yellows and niggers need not apply. Don't care how many shitskin numbers they are. They can outnumbered us 10 to one. And we will still beat their asses.

Hitler even lamented aligning with the shitalians. That give up and allied with his enemies as soon as they lost 2-3 battles.

>>508188225 (OP)
TLDR show flag then talk to me like a normal human. The white races are NORDS. KILL YOURSELF with your spam.

>>508188225 (OP)
Leave Finno-Ugrics out, please. Let my people go.

>>508190957
>they will be forced to take their fair share of migrants as per EU laws.
They already do

>>508190957
Can we shut his guy up ?

Again, the EU is just a bureaucracy. It means nothing. It stands for nothing. It's a black hole of meaning, and might as well be a shoe company insofar as it represents Europe as a people.

It's a power structure, and nothing more. It can be wielded or destroyed. It can be made more pro-European, or More anti-European.

What we're talking about IN THIS THREAD is a hypothetical state which is explicitly pro ethnic Europeans.

EU is dead and that's a good thing. Every once in a while judeocommunist projects crash and burn. This time all their projects are imploding at once. Cool.

>>508190898
And yet you couldn't get the English and the Russians to join.

>>508191032
I forgot the important fact. Most of not all of the Southern caucus region are Muslims. How the fuck do we have shared ethnic heritage? Nope, only on intermixed Christian Western Europeans need to align with each other.

>>508191289
in the digital age when it happens it will take the world by storm and no one will forget again

>>508188225 (OP)
How about fucking die already. Causing all this disruption in the world

>>508190586
Everyone speak English as a second language in Europe. And a lot of European languages relate to each other, like for example Norwegians understand Swedish.
Most people stay in their home place anyway. Its not a problem to take the effort to learn a language if you plan to settle somewhere you don't speak the language.

>>508188225 (OP)
>cyprus is european but iceland is not
oswald mosley already tried pan-europeanism, he failed. stop

>>508188225 (OP)
EUROPEAN Union sounded like a good idea before those in charge decided to import entirety of africa and middle east while spouting olympic-tier mental gymnastics about why it's good and slapping anyone who would dare question it with all kinds of -isms and -phobias. Fuck that traitorous scum who cares more about EU non-citizens and non-members than about those who live here

>>508191215
Really ?
They are so fucking stupid for it...
>>508191258
>dont know how empire works
>want to make an empire
That's the problem with retards like you. You want something because you think of an idea. But you don't know nor history, nor dare to learn about what the meaning of what you say really is.
Reality being. Say ideas have been tested, words have meanings and overall we are already living in what you describe and it prove this is a fucking bad idea, AGAIN !
If a fucking put a rusted nail in one of your eyes, do you need a second one to be sure you will lose this one too ? Do you really need ? How many eyes are you ready to sacrifice before you understand how things works and always worked ?
I hate this era of anti intellectualism, where people think they just can come over ideas. Proudly having no understanding in the matter and making grand statement about say ideas.

>>508191881
He didn't try anything. He was an intellectual writing about ideas. He laid the groundwork for a concept.

Why do you want the continent to be turned into India?

>>508191984
i dont, theres nothing wrong with mosley's ideas, but its not realistic.
anyway we have an "european federation" right now and all its doing is spreading degeneracy

>>508191917
>They are so fucking stupid for it...
It's not their fault, their government is a puppet from Brussels, we also have the same problem which is why we literally started importing jeets overnight

>>508191917

You're annoying and being dumb. The Roman Empire lasted a long ass time—just stfu. There's no reason a state couldn't exist on European soil. You're just being silly.

The EU is nothing like what I describe. If it was like what I described, I wouldn't be talking about it because Europeans wouldn't be on the verge of extinction.

>>508188225 (OP)
How does anyone still fall for this bullshit after seeing everything the EU has done

Again. We either take action. Or we die.

That's it. >>508192176

>>508192372
wow you dont say

>>508191569
I have visited enough countries in Europe to know this is not true at all. The only ones who speak English at a manageable level are the Germanic countries. If you can't get a common language, the EU in its current state is as best as you can get... Hungarians are so distant from the French that they have no idea what they want with their progressive politics. You need a melting pot (like we had in Israel) to get a unified culture, and it takes 3+ generations to complete
Sorry for the text wall

>>508192556
I don't think this is too big of an issue desu. Europe is large enough to accommodate multiple languages, and with modern technology, not having a single dominant language is no longer a significant issue.

What we want is a united foreign policy and a central government that exists to preserve Europe as a civilization. It doesn't have to be super integrated aside from that.

>>508192245
>too retard to understand empire logic
>an empire can only survive as it grow
>collapse when it can't grow anymore
Roman empire was a like any empire, it just took more times for it to collapse and entire people were wiped out of their own lands. Italy lost 90% of its population. Celts almost got eradicated from the surface of Earth. Lot of emperors were mixed. They became totaly degenerates and got rapped by barbaric tribes. That's what you get when you get an empire. Dysfonctional society that get rapped by barbaric tribes as soon as expension stops.
Why do you think the EU when to endlessly expand (even to north africa now) ?
What you describe is just ideas you make in your head because you are uneducated ! It's not reality and the EU show it ! The EU was supposed to be a western christian collectif of nation used trade and science to avoid war. Now it's just another european failing empire, because it is always what happen when you try that idea !!!

>>508192556
He is a nordcuck. Nordcucks are very fond of destroying their society too anglo profits. Their youth now speak better english than their own languages. It's a strange phenomenon from the pov of a south european country perspective.

>>508191258
>the EU represents Europe as a people.
Wrong - it “represents” 27 of the 50 countries in Europe.

>If EU was like I described, Europeans wouldn’t be on the verge of extinction.
Post documentation for the 23 European countries that are not EU-members being “on the verge of extinction”, and list them with the cause of extinction for each country.

>>508188225 (OP)
Can we have fat chicks and fembois?

>>508192864
This man describes the EU as both a "collection of nations that trade" and an "an empire."

We should just ignore people like this, who will only really serve to get in the way of saving our race (and the world btw), and carry on speaking productively about what is possible

>>508192556
Europeans speak English to varying degrees, sure, but everyone know at least a bit of English. Some speak very basic English and some speak more advanced English.

>>508193125
I'm sorry, but you just misread what I said.

>>508190452
Are frenchies even white? Celtic, Latin, med... you probably have brown eyes

>>508188225 (OP)
The Bible is literally a script to invade other people’s lands and kill every man women and child because they aren’t the “chosen” people.
So it seems to me the invaders are the ones acting Jewish.

>>508193269
>reading comprehension
>"it started as"
>"it became"
>memeflag
>reddit spacing
I know youy were retarded, see.
If the guy who pay you see how retarded you are, you will be fired and need some other job to shill bullshits...

>>508193114
There are more Norwegians in America than Norway, I even have distant relatives in America. Its natural for me to be fluent in English and speak the same language as Norwegian-Americans.

>>508188625
It won't. If you want a reason for it, go back to the lockdowns and how quickly and efficiently they enforced that shit on everyone. Right now they're fermenting hatred and when it reaches a boiling point they'll use the migrants as a punching bag to settle things down and move further into federalization. Britian is used as another example for what happens when a country leaves the EU, willingly. There is no need for cultural erasure since next to no one actually gives a shit and people are more than willing to live and let live.

>>508188894
>big daddy Russia
How long is that 3 day special operation been going on for?

>>508193350
>mutt speaking about genetic
kek
Your ancestor abandoned their deads to live on foreign land, i live where my ancestors lived. You are not better than any third world migrants and as mixed as them. No origins, no ancestor's land, no race, no nation. How the grave of your grandpa look like ? How far avay from it do you live ? Even travelers like gypsies come every year to lay flowers on the graves.

>>508193649
Okay, last one because I cannot resist.

I would argue that the EU is STILL a collection of nations that trade.

My evidence for this is that France as a nation-state exists.

IF the EU were an Empire. France, as a nation-state, would not exist.

What I am proposing is 10 times more radical than the EU, because it would be a state, not a collection of trade agreements.

>>508193651
>i know a guy
>massive data
That's still not a excuse to put your language in geopardy because some of your anestors decided to fuck off because your country was dirt poor at the time.
In fact it's even worst. Now you are rich and you could live comfortably in your country you still choose the foreign. Their is no pride into being forced to speak english because anglo kikes bankers forced the world to do so.

>>508188995
guy on the right could easily pass as a british bloke from leeds

>>508194144
>IF the EU were an Empire. France, as a nation-state, would not exist
Is this possible to be so fucking ignorant ? Show flag. My guess being you are not european AT ALL ! They EU is being literally criticized right now for going beyond tss prerogatives.Von Der Leyen literally made some illegals moves, but most EU leaders are complicit. And what you propose is just going even deeper into the bullshit that we know for facts dont work and will kill us all.
Wtf am i even explaining basic knowledge of the curent state of affair of the EU to a meme flag who obviously don't live there and is paid to shill the EU...

>>508194570
facts

>>508194695
I don't live in the EU. I am British.

>>508188225 (OP)
Except no french should have anything to say about laws in the netherlands (or vice versa!) fact of the matter is the european union is an anglogerman ruled kike system

>>508194695
>Is this possible to be so fucking ignorant ?
No, no, he has a point.

>They EU is being literally criticized right now for going beyond tss prerogatives
Should've gone beyond sooner if you ask me. The migrant waves are absolutely unnecessary for uniting Europe into a single whole.

>>508188225 (OP)
>v00ting no to EU means v00ting yes to EU without v00ting rights
thank you master

>>508194759
And since I am British and don't live in the EU, my imagination of a European State is not limited to the EU paradigm. I can imagine a European State that is for our people. It would have been more ideologically aligned with the Second World War Germans than the current EU.

I use the flag because it communicates the concept of a European Nation State.

>>508194759
So youre the worst of jew worshippers, let me guess you all want us to speak english?

>>508194759
>it's a poo
My guess.

>>508194947
nope. read what i said in the thread.

>>508188225 (OP)
The only way humanity can survive is by complete genocide of everything jewish, masonic, communist, and satanist.

And then hand all financial and judicial controls over to ASI.

Humans already lost the war to jew money, sex slaves, or masonic collusion. The problem has to be removed at the global level.

>>508194893
>forget your meme flag
>turkroach
As expected.
All the pro EU fags are all foreigner somehow.
Really make you think !

>>508194958
Here is my DNA test.

Why would a brown person want to keep Europe white ? ://

>>508188225 (OP)
i like this map better op

red = aryan pure blood

>>508195095
okay. i will use a different flag if that is the point of contention

>>508188595
sorry, no slavs allowed

>>508195066
Harcore nationalism or absolute monarchy are the only things that can save us all at this point. Liberal democracy and globalization have proven to be an utter failure.
We need to return to nation state and kill anybody who speak about supranational institution like the EU, UN etc.

>>508195123
Show your flag.
Simple, right ?

Bros just calm down the Polar Race is coming ok bros

>>508195374
I am British. But I consider myself European. That is not the same thing as the EU, but the EU have the only flag on 4chan that represents the idea.

>>508195331
>We need to return to nation state
Individual petty little nation states and 'nationalism' is what got us into this mess brainlet. There is a reason Russia worked so hard to push for Brexit. European unity under a common banner is what the enemies fear.

>>508195527
Show flag
Very simple if you are british after all, right ?

>A Federal Europe is a bad idea. Whatever you do don't unite and make it harder for us to conquer Europe.

>>508195693
ok

Europe need a strong defense against neo-Soviet extremists invading Europe.

>>508195630
>nationalism is what got us into this mess brainlet
The oppposite.
It's imperialistic views that got us into this mess. Hence we made the Westphalian Europe before. Almost as if simple concepts as simple as that were understood by our ancestors, but somehow we are unable to understand it now...
>empires are war
>nations are peace
When you are nationalistic, you hope the best for other nationalistic nations, not to invade them to make an empire.

>>508195630
What I have gathered from this thread is that they would rather we all get turned into browns than let go of some battle from pre-1500 or wherever the source of this division comes from.

>>508195779
Damn that was hard for you poo to do it.
Now go back to India.

>>508195963
nah man, i am for your plan. i have same plan

>>508196009
I literally showed you my DNA test and name. You are being silly again. Why would a brown person advocate from a WHITE Europe ?

It makes no sense.

>>508195630
>There is a reason Russia worked so hard to push for Brexit. European unity under a common banner is what the enemies fear.
The current Russian state was basically created by President Reagan to be the mafia state that it is today. The EU is trying to become the old Soviet Union.

>>508195720
>>508195879
Of course nafo fags would defend it. Living in a country that Russia literally dont care about, but somehow want to recreate the soviet union... Nafo retardation and derangement.

>>508196244
>pic
Russia is the real globohomo

>>508196133
>its real
>i gave my dna to kikes so they could better engineer way to kill white people
>i defend white europe
Like we dont know shills like you would do a Taqiyya just hoping to get your idea stick on the wall somehow.
I will tell you a secret. It doesn't works. Because you don't even have the basic understanding about what youspeak about and your half assed attempt at shilling is just used by use to share more infos about your stupid points. You are literally rising all the red flag and you dont even understand about it (meme flag, reddit spacing, cringe posting). You dont understand about it, because you dont even know about it.
That's how stupid and ineffective you look and are.

>>508196648
>muh russia
thx to further prove my point.
It's almost as if years after years of attempted shilling we know you, we know everything about you, we know how you think, we know how you works, we know how you proceed etc. You can't win, just like on the battlefield.
And remember, "no CIA" :^)

>>508196683
You are being illogical and angry. I have acquiesced to your demands, and it has only made you more upset. I don't know what I can do for you, and neither does anyone else in this thread.
We got an interesting conversation going about new ideas for a good cause. Some people agree. Some disagree. That's what we've done here today.

>>508196986
>You can't win, just like on the battlefield.
And the vile Pro-Russian, Pro-North Korean 'nationalist' drops his mask. Weird how every one of you anti-EU people have no problem with the Russian version of the EU, the 'Russian Federation' absorbing nation after nation into its sphere.

>>508197425
Good point. I was thinking exactly the same, you put my thoughts into words.

>>508197251
The idea you shill is retardded. it's that simple. You just literally dont know what you speak about, like 100% of shills.
European empire dont works and make zero sens.
Simpel as.

>>508197425
Wow nice way of trying to classify countries with completely different ideologies.
>muh democracy vs muh authoritarianism
Democracy is authoritarian if you hold the the minority opinion.

>>508189942
True.

The key is economic isolationism and starving subsaharan Africa.

>>508197425
>absorbing nation after nation into its sphere
>n- no u
Lmao
Here goes the "no u" argument you ALWAYS make like all the leftoids.
You have been called out on this one for years and you just can't stop it. Npc behaviors...
The war literally started because NATO was expanded to the east, to Russia backdoor. Literally doing coup d'état to make it happen. Despite promises made to Russia. That's unbelievable you can still run this narrative when everybody is calling you out for obvious bullshit like that.

I think there is a strain in French intellectual thought that is anti-NATO. I'm personally neutral on that issue. Perhaps our friend will tell us how he feels.

>>508198162
Funny how this meme critic valid points when it come to the west, but have no valid criticism when it come to BRICS or whatever they try to convey Russia is part of.
Almsot as if they know they works on nothing.

>>508198247
The easiest way for a nigger to get into the heart of Europe is on an American military base.

>>508198370
Russia wants to install brutal dictatorship onto the continent, which is the correct move. Historically, nigs have been ruled by merchants and managed by matriarchs. Authoritarianism is the only way to break the habit, and there will be a lot of death.

>>508198247
“I think therefore I am”
Even if you doubting the senses, the body, mathematics, you are still thinking and therefore you must exist

>>508198619
100% tru for nigs/shitskins.
Nor our police, nor our justice system is made to deal with such people. It was made to deal with white people behaviors, not them.