In the media, it is common to see Vikings portrayed as barbarous, ruthless, and fierce warriors infamous for their brutality, looting, raping and human sacrifice.
Obviously the raids were not peaceful but what I mean is I wonder if they were as bad as they have been made out to be like just go into a village steal everything, take slaves, rape women then burn the place down and go home.

Which population didn't do this?

>>508204512 (OP)
yeah thats what everyone did, armies were paid mostly by loot and supply lines werent as much of a thing so they depended on plundering to sustain long campaigns.

>>508204658
>Which population didn't do this?
Asia

>>508204658
Those who onlu got their asses handed to them

>>508204723
>Asia
you're joking right?

>>508204512 (OP)
A lot of records on vikings were biased and written by Christians, who were the ones getting raided.

>>508204723
They were honestly worse than Europeans, you know nothing

>>508204512 (OP)
they had serious over population problems and this was how they dealt with having too many incels.
the ones who came back had a good life
and then it got to be too many for that system to continue and they started selling their services and mercenaries and then even that stopped working and they just invaded all of Europe and destroyed the western empire giving rise to... basically all of modern western europe. '
anyways they were either way too good at coming back from war alive or just had too many kids, or both

>>508204512 (OP)
i don't think vikings were any more violent than other people of the time, it's just an image the cuckstians wanted to give them

remember, most of the time vikings were merchants, farmers and sometimes bodyguards

>>508204512 (OP)
which movie/show is this?

They were very big on slave trade to the muslims and horse tribes. How you get slaves to trade?

>>508205056
the one with the black viking king/queen

They did a lot of agriculture and fishing as well as metalworking. Of course the zionist media wants to portray native Europeans as horrible monsters.

>>508205056
Wokeking

>>508205056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwV3Y9GjOAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJbJgwnNcg

>>508204899
>>508204910
asia (not middle east and mongol) were not as violent as the vikings

>>508205215
Imagine watching a Viking show and then all actors are Chinese people or Anglo Saxons.

Vikings are made up (never called themselves that, nearly never wore horned helmets etc)

But the norse pagans really did exist and they were only resisting forced Christianisation by catholic Carolingians, at least according to some theories.

>>508204512 (OP)
Vikings were as violent as any anti civilization steppe culture toppling degenerate civilizations taking them over and revitalizing them.

>>508204512 (OP)
Blood Eagles aren't real at least, other than the logistics of them making it ridiculous, the actual origin of the term was just a mistranslation from a passage talking about a literal eagle peaking at the back of a corpse on the battlefield

>>508205347
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2306299/

all the actors are european. most of them from scandinavia

>>508205337
Chinese civil wars were far more brutal than any medieval conflict lmao, we didn't eat each other after battles

>>508204512 (OP)
the viking age was a holy war against the christcucks and sadly they lost, imagine a northern europe steeped in their native religion, jews would not be able to penetrate no matter what.
Charlemagne keep in mind gave the jews free reign over usury and made it illegal for the christcucks to do it. He also exterminated pagans while he let jews in his kingdom.
Christcucks are the best golems.

>>508204512 (OP)
>In the media, it is common to see Vikings portrayed as barbarous, ruthless, and fierce warriors
No the faggot liberal media is constantly going to bat for the plucky dane du nuffins.

>>508204512 (OP)
I only like them because they fucked the anglos so hard their descendants conquered the globe

>>508204723
Mongolians did, wtf?

>>508205337
Chinese used ling chi and a lot of punisments were amputations or some other gruesome shit. Every city gate was operated by dudes with no feet, that couldn't flee, because Mings amputated them for some common crime.

>>508205542
Not to mention it's not even filmed in Scandinavia, you'd never find such depressing scenery here.

Maybe, maybe not.
It's likely bullshit though as we see it portrayed on the jew media, but it doesn't matter.
Whoever was on the receiving end of their violence deserved it. Like for example Christians who were pozzing their surroundings, so it's all good.

They were basically barbarians and the society survived and thrived from raids so for sure they more violent than what we associate with most high cultures and civilizations, but probably not so much more violent than your typical barbarian tribes we find across world-history. I mean, the Vikings capture your attention because war seemed to be religiously and politically reinforced but it’s hard to beat the sheer violence we see displayed among some African tribals for example.

>>508204512 (OP)

Christcuck propaganda

>>508204723
?????????????????????????????????????????

>>508204512 (OP)
Yes they were barbaric and they were based for it.

>>508205337
Anon, ancient China and Japan were notoriously fucking AWFUL. Are you retarded?

>>508204658
Better question:
Which population did this and never gets shit on for it.

>>508205374
Slanty eyed mongoloid rape baby says what?

>>508205890
I remember Japanese authorities couldn't catch a notorious thief, so as collective punishment, they decided to boil his wife and kids alive

>>508205588
The Viking age started because Charlemagne and other Christian kings put the hammer to them so they had to spread out and seek new lands, resorting to raids on mostly defenseless settlements. Ironically, the only “Vikings” in history that objectively hold up to snuff in analyzing their capabilities for war were the Christianized Normans, who were absolute monsters at raids and warfare in general. The rest were barbarians taking pot shots at undefended civilized people who don’t want to fight them. Wherever they brushed up against actual armies they got their shit pushed in and only mustered a fight once they evolved away from Vikingrs and into actual armies.

>>508204723
Asia was severely depopulated by marauding armies - several times.

Of the 5 deadliest conflicts in human history, 1 took place partly in Asia (WWII), 1 took place largely in Asia (the Mongol conquests, which only reached Eastern Europe very late, though they did devastate the Middle East) and 3 took place entirely within China (the Three Kingdoms Period, the Qing-Ming conflict and the Taiping Rebellion).

>>508204512 (OP)
just read the iceland sagas and make of that what you will.

>>508205337
3 of the 5 deadliest wars in human history took place entirely within China. Those wars all killed more people individually than World War I, and they were fought largely without efficient modern weaponry.

>>508205940
are you talking about yourself? because considering more than 50 counties declared independence from the uk and moved there afterwards, I'm most likely replying to a slanted brownoid paki from nigera named Niggel

>>508204512 (OP)
Its all true however media generally gets them wrong by showing some epic battle or something
They rarely fought pitched battles, only if it was forced on them, and instead exclusively attacked random villages

>>508205808
>They were basically barbarians and the society survived and thrived from raids
They had top tier smithing, farms and weren't barbarians at all, and no they didnt survive from raids dont be ridiculous. They just werent christcucks and christcucks constantly sent their monks to convert them and they got tired of it and went and raided the easy to raid monasteries full of wealth. They also dealt with slavery but that was common for the time slavery persisted for a long time after the romans went.
In fact they had better hygiene than all their contemporaries and the english monks wrote about their overcleanliness habit.
>>508206019
> Ironically, the only “Vikings” in history that objectively hold up to snuff in analyzing their capabilities for war were the Christianized Normans
They beat the anglosaxons and established the Danelaw, they beat the irish and took over tons of their land aswell, Dublin is a Norse city and was founded by them.
They did plenty well and were very effective even in the varangian guard.
They conquered the Russians, beat the khazars, the pechenegs and the bulgars and also beat the byzantines.
What more do you want?
You need to read up on their history, they had established trade contacts all the way into the middle east and also reached north america hundreds of years before columbus.

Normans were just jewish lackeys and were financed by them, look up Aaron of Lincoln and what court jews did in christian courts.
Christcucks as always are ever golems for their Chosen.

Vikings were cowards

>>508204512 (OP)
Myth. Germanic tribes were quite civilized. The Celts, on the other hand..

>>508205928
Africans

>>508205928
Ukraines?

>>508204512 (OP)
Come into Appalachian terrain waving a trans flag and rainbow dildo talking about how Christ was a woman and then report back your experience

>>508206965
>The Celts, on the other hand..
I cant blame them for their actions, most will never feel the power of their celtic sisters saying you wont

>>508204512 (OP)
Vikings were niggers in a cahoots with kikes in the slave trade of Europeans. Vikings were evil.

>>508207244
>You won't do it
Watch me, bitch

>>508206636
Has there ever been a time when Christians weren't total cucks for the Jewish merchant class?

>>508207268
Who gave this slave permission to speak? The jews?

In the media vikings are portrayed as kinda cool and intelligent, on par with sons of anarchy etc. In reality they were barbarians who raped and murdered. Where the fuck do you get your perceptions from

>>508206965
kek reading about the celts during their invasion of the balkans and advance into greece, it probably felt like a horde of apocalypse to the greeks.
The celts just lost their momentum and then autistic chud romans started culling them culminating with Caesar outright genociding them.

>>508207244
You can see it however you want. But the Romans almost completely enslaved or killed the Celts they defeated, while they tried to subjugate and integrate the Germanic tribes.

>>508207399
>Caesar outright genociding them
Killed 1% of the world's population and enslaved 2% in his campaign against the Celts. Absolutely crazy if you try to imagine it.

>>508207588
because they couldnt completely defeat the germanics and the roman emperors knew that their loyalty would not be questionable since they only would care about money and citizenship.
The celts werent that bad honestly, the romans were worse than them actually.
Rome just had an ancestral beef with them due to the celts cucking them when they were weak.

>>508204512 (OP)
When your religion entails dying a warrior and your in your Valhalla heaven you combat daily, die and rise up to combat the next day...yeah you might tend to glorify violence, and be violent.

>>508207099
kill yourself then fucking namefaggot

>>508206636
Just because they were good at things doesn’t mean they weren’t barbarians. Barbarians commonly have arts and crafts, things they’re good at, all the makings of a high culture without yet being a high culture. This idea that “they just weren’t christucks” is fantastical chud anthropology. It’s not real.

As for the Anglo saxons they beat, again, they beat unarmed villages and settlements for the most part. They only mustered a fight against collectivized military forces when they themselves evolved out of Vikings and into armies and even then mainly the far flung and ill equipped armies of hinterlands.

I don’t care to really address the res for your retarded LARPagan rant. It’s ahistorical value judgement based on nothing. You don’t even know what you’re talking about my friend.

>>508207381
They were extremely cool and intelligent.
You don't discover continents, conquer people and have worldwide trade links by being dumb.

>>508206636
They conquered the Russians, beat the khazars, the pechenegs and the bulgars and also beat the byzantines.

By the way, they didn’t “conquer” any of these people. They raided far flung and ill defended settlements. That’s all. The only “Vikings” which ever conquered robust settlements and armies were the Normans. There are literally no other examples that were more than raiders prodding at settled and undeffended hinterlands. It would be like Mexicans just mobbing a random small town in West Texas and going “we conquered the Americans”. No, not exactly.

>>508204512 (OP)
the POC vikings were unrelentingly hyper-violent, while the white ones lived in perfect harmony with the natural order of this world

>>508208376
This. The fact that they worshipped strength instead of weakness does not automatically make them savages.

>>508208376
I never said they weren't intelligent, op was talking about the portrayal. Yes, at least some were intelligent to do those things, they still murdered and raped.

>>508208376
They didn’t do any of that. They arrived in foreign lands at that point unknown to the civilized world but didn’t “discover” them in the sense that they barely brought knowledge of them back, barely opened settlements, did very little with them. They just kind of showed up and left or showed up settled and died off. They didn’t conquer either. These people raided far flung and mostly undefended hinterlands of much larger cultures. Whenever they pushed into the cultural core and faced military resistance they got crushed. As for the trade routes, they mostly used routes already established by the Romans and Byzantines and the various tribes that at that point had settled Eastern Europe and Russia. They were already established routes that they made use of.

I don’t know why you can’t accept that the Vikings were just barbarian tribals. That’s all. They didn’t build a culture, didn’t do anything really impressive besides the sheer distance they were willing to travel, nothing like that. Sure, they were cool but they were just barbarians. That’s really just the reality.

>>508207268
Christians brought kikes to the vikings and you can see the destruction of relics match up with their arrival.

>>508208259
>It’s ahistorical value judgement based on nothing. You don’t even know what you’re talking about my friend
I studied this area of history autistically since I have been 7 years old.
I have read as much as a man can read about those times and I have visited tons of museums and also did historical reenactments with my friends of battles during that time.
The norse fought the anglosaxon armies plenty of times and beat them tons of times, in fact they conquered the northumbrians, mercians and east anglians of the anglo saxons completely, they also did raid but so did the anglosaxons into welsh and scots villages and vice versa.
Viking wasnt a people it was a state of being, as in you were going viking, which meant you were going to raid. They had armies they had an extensive law code, they had a very rich culture filled with songs and poems that they created. They werent barbarians they were cultured people with their own writing system and everything.
You wont address the rest of my argument because you know you have no actual arguments since it is all just pure facts.
They did conquers the russians and created the rus, they did fight against the nomads and then beat the bulgars and beat the byzantine, this is all factual and historical with sources. I do not know how you can deny any of it.

>>508208756
> t. Angry rape baby

>>508209234
Nice argumenting, must mean that you really are right!

>>508207358
the crusades were responsible for killing jews on mass in the thousands but then again it pails in comparison to what emperor Hadrian did, killing half a million jews leaving only 300ish jews left leading to them inbreeding and outbreeding with other jews and Italian woman or just anyone around Europe

>>508208756
>They didn’t conquer either
they conquered the predecessors of the russians and colonized them creating the rus, they conquered england and at one point half of england was ruled and had a sizeable portion of their population of northman extract/

Can jewlovers ever be honest and not lying?
>hey arrived in foreign lands at that point unknown to the civilized world but didn’t “discover” them
lmaoooooo I am dead

>>508209359
The crusades were responsible for doing jackshit, just dead europeans in abrahamic scuffles over who gets to suck kike dick more. They didnt even stop muslim incursions as muslims went and conquered the byzantines with ease and took half of eastern europe and spain.

>>508209127
> a state of being
Lmao okay. You are a pseud. Vikingrs were just raiders. They were literally people that raided mostly undefended settlements. That’s it. That’s all a Viking was. So you’re half right there. It wasn’t a state of being. It was a class who did a specific activity, like how a soldier soldiers or a blacksmith blacksmiths. The rest of what you said is bullshit. They wrote virtually no poems. All of it was oral. They had art and song in exactly the same way pre-cultural tribals everywhere have art and song. 99.99% of these people could not read or write. The settlements they lived in would not even qualify as a medieval village. They’re “law code” was not a formalized legal code so much as a mostly socially transmitted method of politicking rather than an actual formalized legal code. They did not consider “the Russians”. They ventured into hinterlands of the people who would become Russians and raised undefended towns and villages in their hinterlands. Basically nothing you said is historical and if your rally spent years studying this topic, that is quite sad.

>>508209382
No, they didn’t. These “predecessors” of the Russians were just loose barbarians like them for the most part. The places which the people who would go onto become the Rus settled were again mostly undefended and certainly unmilitarized hinterland. This idea that they “conquered” “the Russians” is pure fantasy. It’s like showing up in a small Indian reservation, killing some people and setting up shop nearby, then going “we conquered the Americans”.

>>508209321
Correct. I accept your apology.

>>508204512 (OP)
I'm sure it's greatly exaggerated, just look at what cucks the modern swede or dane is these days. They're the most feminized men on planet Earth, basically just goofy lame faggots who let women and africans walk all over them in their home countries (not to mention their women are huge coalburners), so I doubt they were some berserker ass kickers not that long ago or it wouldn't be completely bred out of their DNA already. They're fake and gay.

>>508204512 (OP)
>that violent
Compared to what? Everyone was violent as fuck back then, just look at the carolingians and merovingians about the same time.
Yes, Vikings plundered and burnt their way across Europe which basically was the norm just 300-500 years before the Vikings and during the viking age.
But what the vikings should get creddit for is their role in opening the north sea to trade. They founded and opened the trade nettwork in the batlic and north sea which would end up becoming the economic engine in Northern, western, central and Eastern Europe. Without the Vikings there would be no cities along the rivers of Eastern and central Europe such as Kiev, Prague or Budapest and no baltic or germanic trading cities such as Talinn, Gdansk or Lübeck, and no hansetic league. The vikings kickstarted the medieval economy in Europe which would end up giving us the industrial revolution.

>>508209529
> and spain.

Anon I https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista

>>508206178
I was going to say this, they very clearly want to be seen as these brawny bastards if nothing else. Though they did also have a soft spot for poetry

>>508205337
China was violent as fuck having civil war every other century which caused mass deaths, massacres and attrocities which makes the Vikings look like pussies in comparison.
India and Japan was just a bunch of warring local feudal powers with the exact same outcome. The whole of Asia was suport violent.

>>508208756
>I don’t know why you can’t accept that the Vikings were just barbarian tribals
Because it isnt the truth, you couldnt even define what barbarian actually is and when you gave that definition it showed that you knew nothing of the norsemen to call them barbarians.
>>508209558
>That’s all a Viking was
A viking was a raider, raiding, it was a state of being like going fishing, or going travelling. When somebody says I am going viking, it meant they were going to raid and not to trade, they would put the animals on their prows to scare off spirits of the lands they were about to embark upon and they went off.
>They wrote virtually no poems. All of it was oral.
Yeah their poems were like warsongs and like hymns in that they dealt with their heroes and their gods.
Skalds could recite and sing them and they were the ones who kept them memorized and alive, later after the 9th century they started writing them down due to christianization.
But they had a writing system with their runes and there are hundreds of runestones filled with their writing.
>They had art and song in exactly the same way pre-cultural tribals everywhere have art and song.
They had art and song the same way all the people during that time had art and song.
>99.99% of these people could not read or write
Same as everybody during that time apart from the muslims.
> The settlements they lived in would not even qualify as a medieval village
again wrong they had the same construction tech as the anglosaxons did and the other continental europeans, only the byzantines and arabs had better tech.
>They’re “law code” was not a formalized legal code
they had a formalized one you moron, they had courts, they had the ting, they had lawspeakers whose entire job was to memorize laws and to make arguments at the ting which was basically a court of law before a jury of your peers.

>>508204512 (OP)
Would Anglos lie to you?
>>508204723
Asians are experts at torture bro

>>508209529
the templars did what they could when they started out with 12 poor knights that became a force large enough to go against a larger force of muslims.Wheres your army of loyal soilders fighting against muslims of today?Besides that its not like the Pagan were any more peaceful towards other Pagens ,but it does suck that Christianity was forced on them

>>508204723
The same Asia where to defend a city the soldiers eat the civilians????

>>508209558
> They ventured into hinterlands of the people who would become Russians and raised undefended towns and villages in their hinterlands.
No you moron they conquered and settled the ruriks their founding dynasty were scandinavian settlers whose founder came from serving in the varangian guard and conquered them with his men and then settled the land.
>Basically nothing you said is historical and if your rally spent years studying this topic, that is quite sad.
You are just ragebaiting at this point all what I wrote can be factchecked easily.
>>508209771
Wrong.
>>508210178
they didnt even kick the moor colonizers out just made them convert and let them stay in europe.
But what does it matter to a christcuck as long as the nigger has a cross around his neck he is holy.

>>508204905
The raids were probably light hearted in actuality

>>508205337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWmhRSAcWkI

>>508210546
The templars were a glorified banking cartel.
Did jackshit besides patrol and keep pilgrims safe. The kingdom of Jerusalem didnt even fight the muslims and spent most of its time gorging itself on trade tolls and let anybody go through its territory no questions asked, they neglected to fight the muslims so much so that the pope got pissed that the kingdom of God was turned into basically a racketeering affair for feudal lords to extort merchant.

>>508204723
You are actually retarded.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingchi

Liu Jin (劉瑾): important eunuch serving under the Zhengde Emperor, put to death by lingchi in 1510 for arrogating power. Legend has it that the punishment was carried out across 3 days, with 3300 slices in total. It was reported that when Liu Jin returned to prison after the first day, he continued to eat white porridge. After the punishment was completed, the people of Beijing, especially those persecuted under Liu Jin and their families, haggled for pieces of his flesh for a wen, and ate them with wine, to vent their anger.

>>508209859
1-2% of every generation were executed in the dark ages. We have effectively been bred into being a Christian race