Can we talk about Appalachia a bit before we all get nuked to smithereens?

proof that class war trumps race war every time

>>508255800
what?

county roads

>>508256249
look up battle of blair mountain

>>508256440
southern wv is a weird place

minimal risk of everything going to shit due to nuclear fire.
maximum risk of whatever you are living in getting burned down by a meth head arsonist because appalachia is essentially a modern take on the old west in just about every way, only this time around it's outlaw rules. lots of people live off of shit similar to the 'code of the west' but even that is twisted because substance abuse has destroyed the region and its people. you don't call the police there, you get back on your own.

https://apnews.com/article/kentucky-sheriff-judge-courthouse-shooting-d8df59f414023489527e9aef49f4c8cf

>>508257408
All I could think driving around WV last time was how safe I would be there if shit went down. They test bomber planes in WV (I got strafed like 500 ft above at a dispersed camping site on on of the forks of cheat), and they also have some acknowledged and probably some unacknowledged special forces training areas
>because substance abuse has destroyed the region
I dunno I think the reliance on big corporations who owned all the land, didn't care about or work with the people just exploited them, took what they could, and left everything to rot kinda did them in
the drugs were just downstream of a society where the only decent paying jobs for men are taxing physically and pills relieve the pain

I will say extreme southern WV seemed pretty meth'd out but I haven't noticed that as much elsewhere. I do wonder if those situations where a doublewide turns into an outdoor antique museum happen because a family member dies, or because someone falls into alcohol or drugs and just stops maintaining things. The signature feature, to me, of Appalachia, other than the hills, is seeing structures and really not being able to tell if they are abandoned or still in use.

>>508255800
we seem to be stuck in two race wars right now

Looks like Alaska but we don't have as many Cryptids.

>>508257408
>just call the police in your diverse city and they will contain the blacks
oh I wish

>>508259165
there could be a whole ass military base here and you would never know

>>508255556 (OP)
nuked by who?

There's an Appalachia spoopy podcast I've listened to, makes the place seem comfy.

>>508260060
There is, retard

>>508255556 (OP)
still on punishment for blair mountain

>>508260221
Does it truly matter?

>>508261434
yeah i wanna know why you think we're gonna get nuked

>>508261719
Iran would love an excuse to use all the bombs and missiles it has been saving up.

>>508255800
fpbp

>>508255556 (OP)
Moving to eastern WV in a week or so
Perfect timing.

>>508263079
lmao you think iran has nukes?
how would they even get them here

>>508263560
panhandle or highlands?

doomed

I've heard it has little to no economic prospects, and everyone is on welfare. If you dropped their welfare would they migrate to places with more opportunity?

>>508255556 (OP)
Best part of USA and Alice is themed after it

>>508255556 (OP)
>>508261434
very comfy, post more

>>508256428
Take me home
To a place
Where I belong
Meth Virginia
Tweaking Momma
Take me home
Country road

>>508264984

>>508255556 (OP)
We’ll be fine here no matter what brother. Appalachia is the true white homeland.

Didn't mean to sage
Point still stands

>>508259165
WV has shit loads of weird cryptids they’re just not as plentiful.

You ever heard of the Leon squealer?

>>508263560
Welcome fren

>>508265568
>Appalachia is the true white homeland.
t. has never been to Beckley

>>508266276
I have. It can be easy to lose sight of how overwhelmingly white the state is.

All the browns self isolate in those shit towns.

Native Appalachinoid here. Live in WV my entire life. Even worked in the coal industry for a couple years.
I love my state but I could never recommend anyone try to live here.
There's basically nothing.
I've lived in our largest cities and they're blips on the map compared to those of other states. Charleston, and ESPECIALLY Huntington are rundown as fuck. Huntington has good reason for being the city with the highest usage of opioids in the USA. Morgantown's pretty nice though.
I hate our economic desolation but I love our culture. West Virginians are by far the nicest people you'll ever meet in the USA, especially in the small towns.
This isn't exactly true for the mountain folk that live in the hollows off the main interstates. They can be pretty isolationist and weird. t. my mother's half of my family are mountain people, and they're about as stereotypically backwards as you can think.
We have little oddities about ourselves that most out-of-staters don't know. Pepperoni rolls are considered a staple here. Many families, including my own, have their own familial recipe for them. They're a holdover from the mining days due to a large presence of italian immigrants.
There's a very tiny town in the center of the state called Helvetia that was made by German and Swiss immigrants, and their descendants have done their best to keep the town as ethnically pure and culturally preserved as possible. I visited once, its a warm community.
I hate the way YouTubers do parachute journalism on my state. Obsession with abandoned mining equipment is incredibly high. They treat it like its some sort of creepypasta shit, it's really fucking gay.

>>508266758
This is a super zoomed in shot of Lindy Point, I think. Too bad the best view is on the rock and neither I nor you am willing to risk that. I should go back there, it has been a while and it's real easy to get to (compared with Table Rock).

>>508255556 (OP)
>55556
>get nuked
>55556
you deserve them digits for being a nigger.

>>508267207
It is, I considered the jump but I don’t think my woman would ever have forgiven me.

>>508267151
>Live in WV my entire life.
at what elevation though

>>508257072
if you're not white yeah, all of the rural world is weird and scary because you don't get free shit that keeps you from dying there

>>508267796
Mostly in the lower regions. The time I spent up north in Morgantown was higher up though. My ears would always pop like a motherfucker whenever I drove back south.

>>508268612
>Mostly in the lower regions.
exactly my point, would be cool to talk to a native highlander, they are rare though
>My ears would always pop like a motherfucker whenever I drove back south.
yeah I experienced that on the last drive from lowlands to highlands back to lowlands

>>508266022
No. We just basically have Sasquatches/Nantinaq.

First for the Cumberlands, of Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia.

>>508269958
I saw a real bear! And a little baby deer. And a cottontail rabbit. And plenty of what I assume are voles or little things that run around in the leaves but you never see - those are perhaps the creepiest.

They need to figure out how to put a low metal railing RIGHT at the edge of the lookout rocks.

>>508269455
about 4800' cows and sheep farm on WV side of WV/VA border. what do you want to know?

I live in NE GA and I love seeing the the mountains in the distance. I really hate seeing houses and development around there though. kinda pisses me off. Its such a beautiful land when its untouched

>>508271087
4800 feet is the very top I don't think the Allegheny Front even runs that high except at Spruce Mountain.
You ever been up to Elleber Knob?

>>508271213
>ne
oh no
I wanna visit NW georgia tho, it looks pretty

here, have a West Virginia photo

>>508270406
yeah.

>>508256440
That was 100 years ago when the US was 95% White. The poor were the closest most people in the US would get to seeing a non-white.

Even then, Blair Mountain and a bunch of other Labor "protests" were literally failed Communist uprisings with the Commies coming in and torpedoing any deals the factories were trying to make with the workers in order to agitate unrest which lead to violence. It happened all over the US, and to this day the actual Union Workers are all right wing while the Union Administrators are all incredibly far left.

>>508259165
Go take a walk in the woods close to the Summit Bechtel Reserve (Boy Scout Camp) in Garden Grounds, Southern WV at night.

>>508255556 (OP)
how big of a problem are the melungeons really?

>>508271893
yeah what?

>>508271595
>elleber knob
Many times. We don't graze there, but have keys just in case. Can drive a side by side there without hitting pavement.

>>508272336
I think that's the one that has a waterfall on it that I haven't been to (and also I wanna say a trail to the bottom of the new river but that's insane), and also concho rim overlook (a horseshoe bend)?

There's also another, different overlook I wanna say somewhere east in Virginia near Shenandoah where the only access is for scouts to this one mountain overlook.

>>508272601
There's some abandoned logging railroads that become hiking trails I wanna say in the 1970s and 1980s that were abandoned by the 2000s downhill of Elleber Knob that at one point would have formed a loop trail from the top via "rattlesnake trail" or something like that and connecting back up through the rail/trail along North Fork Deer Creek
I doubt the trails really exist today but interesting area and have always wanted to see more if they are still around, especially the rail trail along nf deer creek.
Also it looks like to park on nf deek creek downstream of where elleber sods rd crosses it you would kinda have to park in someone's yard not sure if there's a house there and also you have to cross a creek by car to even get to that point

there's also another abandoned loop trail on what I think is called peters mountain running in the hills above Cass, WV on the other side of deer creek from the rail depot. I like the idea of old abandoned trails and the mysteries they might contain.

>>508255556 (OP)
Hopefully that place gets nuked first

>>508272336
explain

>>508273574
basically like an hour before sunset or so, if you are hiking in the mountains the birds give you that call that means "stay here and we will eat you if you pass out", and then right when it starts getting dark the coyotes begin to howl at you and you know its time to make your way quickly back to your car

my bad, that last pic was reddish knob, this is elleber knob

>>508273488
hunters still go up that trail, but it is impassable to vehicles. park at the bridge at the sharp turn on the road up to ellebers.It was maybe 6 or so years ago some staright line winds came through there and flattened all the trees.

>>508273895
answer my question about the melungeons you fucking poser. how many are left and where are they?

>>508274087
>hunters still go up that trail,
you mean north fork deer creek?
it was an official trail in the 1980s according to my trusty used monongahela national forest trail guide

>park at the bridge at the sharp turn on the road up to ellebers
I did that, it looked like there were TWO rail trails, one on each side of the creek, wasn't sure which was the main one, took the one slightly closer to the summit, that sorta petered out and was rough, I have a feeling the other side is the main one

you can also see it was a literal railroad around 1910 assumedly connecting all the way with cass, which would be cool if it still did
>but it is impassable to vehicles
you mean north fork deer creek or elleber sods rd? the whole fun of elleber sods is you can drive ALL the way to the top in an SUV on a shitty dirt road

I was not assuming north fork deer creek was remotely driveable - more my wonder was if its hikeable
>It was maybe 6 or so years ago some staright line winds came through there and flattened all the trees.
probably not
+ helene damage
I noticed a bunch of downed trees in the hills aside from elleber sods rd
the concept of walking along ancient railroads is quite fun but the reality of the deep mud + downed trees is less fun too bad they don't fix it up a little it IS all public land

>park at the bridge at the sharp turn on the road
do you know anything about the downstream entrance? that seems more interesting, I tried to drive it once but was with others who chickened out at the drivable water crossing.

Do you know any other uh secret views in WV or along the Allegheny Front?

I've looked on a map seems like there COULD be views to the south of it somewhere but couldn't find anything definitive and the roads to get there are yikes.

>>508274238
Sorry, I have noticed that term pop up mostly around the Cumberland and Pine Mountain areas. It seems to refer to Native American white settler mixes, but can also refer to Black mixes, but I feel like most truly it tends to mean native-mixed.

I guess most of the people I've seen look white and not native, but maybe they are still around. I know a lot of people personally identify as Melungeon especially in the deeper hollers.

There's an unusual history in America of people taking pride in being native-mixed as well as like basically white aristocrats claiming native heritage as a way of showing they were enmeshed with the land. Whereas black-mixes were a lot more shameful (and there's PLENTY of that in extreme southern WV)

>>508258198
Where do you suspect some of the unofficial training areas are

>>508265568
All the hicks there are Melungeons who think they're White.
Don't fool yourself, anon.

>>508265568
maybe 20-30 years ago it was. nowadays it's getting ate up with mexicans, uncle toms that will eventually transition into niggas and literal trannies that will never get surgery.
https://www.wymt.com/2025/05/29/ksp-dea-conduct-drug-investigation-restaurant/

>>508276311
the highlands west of spruce mountain
there's an official training ground on the west side of the cheat canyon
but there's lots of weird unused high elevation land sort of in between elkins wv and spruce knob itself (wv state highpoint)
that's both remote, little accessed, and convenient to washington dc and all the military/government stuff there
I hiked a trail where there's 3 creek crossings and they can be pretty scary if the water is high
there used to be a bridge (log) but the 1985 flood took it away and they never rebuilt it, i hike the trail like 15 years ago and mysteriously there were like jerry-rigged bridges across the crossings as if it were an obstacle course like each crossing had a different style bridge one was rope one was metal cables, and then I went back and did the trail some years later, all gone, no trace of that

>>508272356
I'm a Melungeon.
I don't think I'm a problem.

>>508258198
> not being able to tell if they are abandoned or still in use.
TIL: my boomer age female relatives are like WV

>>508255556 (OP)
jews hate this

>>508277082
have you played fallout 76? all the sites you've named are in it. it is set after a nuclear war in w.v.!!

>>508277407
no, I don't do vidya, exploring appalachia is irl vidya

>>508277653
fair enough but you're still missing out, it takes about 200h to finish like 95% of it that game but

>>508277082
Thanks.

I get up to W VA a few times each year from NC. Love the area despite the hardships.

Always on the lookout for fun and weird places to hike/see.

>>508275052
>you mean north fork deer creek?
I guess. You used to be able to 'carefully' drive off road from north fork ext out of green bank to elleber road, but totally impassable now, but i is a conveniently accessible little strip that hunters use now every fall.

>you can also see it was a literal railroad around 1910 assumedly connecting all the way with cass

I don't know but don't think so, they were just small spurs to get logs out and often rerouted due to season stream changes

>you can drive ALL the way to the top in an SUV on a shitty dirt road

Most of the time nowadays it has a gate due to grazing leases, but it is usually open maybe sept october time frame.

>probably not
+ helene damage

Yeah, it was real, I was up there clearing roads for days. It was april 2020. pic rel. The trees were just flattened for a few miles. It actually looked like an asteroid came through there.

>any other uh secret views in WV or along the Allegheny Front

If you go on Old Pike rd W off of hwy 250 you will see a road with a big mudhole off to the right, you can drive to the top fence(used to be a gate) and then walk along the ridge and take a left for a spectacular view.

I think maybe on VA side, but up bear mountain rd off hwy 250 there is a big hill, private property but no fence, you will see tracks with a great view.

>>508273574
On the left side of the road of garden grounds opposite of the boy scout camp if you're heading to Mount Hope is several hundred acres owned by Mountaineer Gas Company. I had permission to hunt over there at one point due to a family member that worked for MGC and gave me gate keys. Got lost in da woodz, got dark on me and being somewhat unfamiliar with the area it took me two hours to return to my truck thanks to my compass and finding a creek( this was before smartphones exploded in popularity). Nothing in particular happened as I tried to locate my truck until dead silence and a waft of rot and blood kept invading my nostrils. Couldn't hear no twigs snapping or leaves crunching and the odor kept getting stronger and stronger up until I found the main road and went back through the gate I initially entered. A tale my parents told me about a time they parked on the side of the road a few years before I was born by the same gate in garden grounds was similar. They were making out or some shit until a smell of rot and blood kept getting stronger and stronger. The two little dogs they had started freaking out and scratched at the door of dad's truck wanting back in, soon as dad opened the door the dogs squeezed themselves behind the bench seat of dad's single cab truck so they promptly gtfo. Don't know if it was a predator dragging a rotten carcass around or a methhead that hasn't bathed in 20 years. My experience happened in November when the temperatures were in the upper 30s-low 40s.

>>508278037
In 200 hours I could have explored 4 new river systems in Appalachia!

>>508278090
you can sorta trace the new river from its headwaters in nc down to the new river gorge which is kinda fun - apart from the helene related detours/closures/road work

>Always on the lookout for fun and weird places to hike/see.
tons of interesting stuff in WV just a lot of it hard to access

there's upper and lower seneca creek falls, lower is on private land (used to be publicly accessible though before '85)
upper is a common 5 mi each way trail along a flattish logging road to upper falls, there USED to be a trail from there connecting to lower falls, but its better I think to access lower falls from the white's run road allegheny mountain trail access but preferably on a sunday when the hunting camp that owns the land is closed
I guess I could ASK them if I can hike to the lower falls im just nervous they will say no and apparently fishermen do it without asking

there's also a secret waterfall basically one creek system over on big run of north fork south branch potomac river (there's a bunch of different things called big run and north fork) this is the one where you park on rt 28 (there's a little lot unmarked) and walk up the old rr grade and supposedly 3.5. mi in there's a falls according to the usgs topo map but ive never seen a picture of it and its probably not that big/seasonal
big run is gorgeous though

>>508278123
did you try doing north fork deer creek on a 4x4 or something?
>You used to be able to 'carefully' drive off road from north fork ext out of green bank to elleber road, but totally impassable now
I figured that by car, but I meant
a) if its even hikeable and
b) if you can park at the downstream entrance of north fork deer creek where the official road ends and the trail begins (according to the topo map)

>>508255556 (OP)
Most of Appalachia should be fine eastern sides like Shenandoah might get fucked from being so close.
t. Native

>>508255556 (OP)
this will be the last safe place in america

>a) if its even hikeable and
You are going to be going over and under a lot of very big downed trees. I don't think that area has been logged for at least 40-50 years.

>b) if you can park at the downstream entrance of north fork deer creek where the official road ends and the trail begins (according to the topo map)

Not that I know of. the road is basically the stream banks and lots of private hunting camps. I wouldn't do it unless you knew the people.

>>508280186
>I wouldn't do it unless you knew the people.
aww its just so pretty from above it looks like a cool holler to explore and at ONE point it actually was a us forest service managed trail

and I did check the 1914ish topo map and it was definitely a railroad at one point (as was big run near spruce knob) cuz in both cases they connect with larger creeks, north fork running down to cass where many lines once connected for western maryland railroad

it just looks like the downstream entrance is narrowly on private land where the road ends :( and the forest service has no idea
I mean WV property viewer is online I suppose you can always find their address and write them a letter but eep
and yeah probably not worth it with all the downed trees
tried that at little black fork - another area where you have a former real trail predeceased by a narrow gauge logging railroad (my favorite!) which flows into shavers fork, and the downed trees were just too crazy
also was trying to see if there was a path there out to baker sods, which looks like on the map it would have a commanding view, but in reality I don't think it does according to info I've found

>>508280186
I also wonder if there's any views to the SW down by Paddy Knob (still on the WV/VA border) or by Lake Sherwood there's a trail that goes along the Allegheny Front but I can't find any info as to if it has any good views on it. Paddy Knob used to have a lookout tower- shame the state won't maintain those in most areas.

>>508255556 (OP)
The men are drug addicts and the women are whores. Not much different than the rest of the country.
>But muh mountain views!

It's just southern Scotland. Same tectonic plate, same inbreeding, same distaste for the crown; no difference.

>>508280871
>>But muh mountain views!
yes

So I guess I was wrong. The topo map doesn't have north fork deer creek as a railroad (though I must assume it was one originally), but as a road on the 1900 map. Then by 1940 its marked as a trail.

>>508257072
not really.

>>508255556 (OP)
Apple-aych-uhh

>>508281185
its unglaciated so that makes it look prettier imho

Oh also, WV anon u ever been up to Briery Knob or Cold Knob? they are in between Richwood and Marlinton up on Fork Mountain
Cold Knob I got to, maybe wasn't supposed to, have to go through a strip mine to get to it, but nobody was there that day
Briery Knob I got kicked out of by the mine owners :(
I didn't make it to the actual knob not sure if there's a view there there, but wanted to see, the knob is public land but the road situation to access it involves a gate (from the north) a closed road (from the east) or the mystery of maze-like strip mine roads from the west and I have no idea if there's an actual view there it just a prominent high point

>>508281435
have u been to war?

>>508280685
You have meme flag and democrat donkey at that but search cville CL for ljkhsdfgkljhsdfuioyfgiopuysdfg and maybe I'll get in touch. Always need extra labor up there, lol.

>>508255556 (OP)
its nothing but TICKS here dawg, save me from this methhead redneck hell hole! i literally, LITERALLY, get a tick bite every 90 seconds when i step outside. I CANT STEP OUTSIDE, SERIOUSLY.

>>508255556 (OP)
Sure.
Don't go there.
You may end the thread, now.

>>508255556 (OP)
I grew up in Western PA, but I only realized as an adult that there's some seriously weird demonic mojo in the whole region. Like mothman, jersey devil, witch coven shit. I go back to visit my hometown and I feel like my lifeforce gets sucked out of me, and it takes me weeks to recover. Any other Appalachian anons sense this?

>>508255556 (OP)
High devs need time.
I'm ready they aren't.

>>508281905
>Oh also, WV anon u ever been up to Briery Knob or Cold Knob?

No, admittedly have not explored much, but have been to gaudineer knob. beautiful mountaintop moss enviro0nment, doesn't even look real. Also, if you do the trail, they cleared an area now with a crazy view on steep side.

>>508256428
based mountains, one of the finest places on earth

>>508281952
do you have a throwaway email or something I could contact?
>cville CL
charlottesville, virginia craigslist?

>If you go on Old Pike rd W off of hwy 250 you will see a road with a big mudhole off to the right, you can drive to the top fence(used to be a gate) and then walk along the ridge and take a left for a spectacular view.

ok so trying to figure this out I see where 3/old pike road goes off of 250 near bartow near where it says "yeager" and then you have to trace the road for a while to get up on the ridge not sure where the view would be there's this little road here right before it says "mt hobart cemetery' maybe that's it but its a long road hard to figure out where the ridge view would be exactly

>have not explored much,
ouch
I meet so many locals like that
people live their whole lives and never see the things nearby

> Also, if you do the trail, they cleared an area now with a crazy view on steep side.
it was cleared before but um not that great, did they fix it up? haven't been since 2022ish (gaudineer knob)

>>508255556 (OP)
>implying
Iran doesn't have the technology or range. America does.

>>508275052
>Do you know any other uh secret views in WV or along the Allegheny Front?
Sounding a lot like a real estate developer I once ran into.

>>508270110
This part is my homeland. All of my mother's ancestry for 150 years was within a 30 minute drive of where that picture was taken.

>>508283245
I just like exploring! That said, half the time I notice that homes up on the ridges have the best. cleared views and you don't get anything driving on the ridge road itself.

>>508256440
WV is the whitest state in America. America was 95% white when that happened. What the fuck are you talking about commie faggot?

>>508278930
To me it sounds like you were being crept up on by a bear my dude, you would have been killed dead

>>508283915
Meh it’s all black bears out here and they are massive pussies as long as you don’t fuck with the cubs.

>>508283230
we are about to find out!

>>508284029
True enough but I still wouldn't want to meet one at night lol

>>508283568
The trees on the way up help you pachinko your way down should you slide off. Might not sound like much but I saw an out of stater who went off the side of a road on his motorcycle or what was left of him. Motorcycles don't grab trees so good until they do. Not sure why you'd speed down a mountain road like that.

>cleared views
That's why the Californians put them up there in the first place, so they can clear out a view. We'll see if we run out of Californians or scenery first.

>>508284763
given that it's one big abandoned mine the smell was probably more likely from sulfur or something coming out of an old mine shaft

>>508284924
I highly doubt ALL the nice properties with views are owned by out of staters
cleared views can be enjoyed by locals and outsiders alike

>>508283568
Is that RRG?

>>508255556 (OP)
the best part of appalachia is the daily word of the day.

Today's appalachia word of the day is "fascinate"
>I think I am gaining too much weight, because I had nine buttons and I could only fascinate

>>508285297
yes!
I went there to hike Blackburn Rock (which nobody has heard of) and I also did Natural Bridge and Sky Bridge, I wanna go again in winter, sorta felt like the nice rocks were mostly covered up in green

>>508259165
When I was a boy, cats and dogs were going missing on my dead end street. I found an old dam, way back in the forest and the water went around my dead end crack house street and to what used to be a giant, and I mean enormous, mental hospital that ran for 200 years. One day it went completely dry and I saw why the pets were missing. A giant 13 or 15 foot long black colored snake lay dead in the mud. It's head was bigger than a Pyrenees. Maybe a crocodile. They did a lot of experiments on people and, I assume, animals as well. This is a true story.

>>508285124
Most locals live in hollers because its cheaper and more practical. Going to the extra expense of building your home for the view is something people with inflated wages from coastal states tend to do. Septic, wells pretty much everything is more expensive or laborious to do up higher.

Its more impractical to do just about anything up there as well. Raising chickens, growing just about anything, collecting and hauling firewood. If your nuclear war scenario did occur the people up top would be the first to run into all the logistical problems surrounding why no one built homes up there in the first place. But that's none of my concern I'm sure they'll work something out for themselves.

I will note there are some nice existing homes in some areas that have been on the ridgetops for a century or more but they tend to have a lot of flatter land surrounding them. Thinking about it reminded me of one that overlooks the mountains in Virginia.

>>508285463
I thought it looked familiar. If I’m not mistaken that picture was taken at the top of Natural Bridge. I’ve spent a lot of time camping and hiking out there but I haven’t been back in a few years because it’s gotten pretty popular & it’s really crowded with people with no hiking or camping etiquette

>>508285907
There's roads up along the ridge anyways and people were gonna build homes there no matter what. There's a ridge road in extreme southern WV gosh like meat fork rd or something, absolutely not fancy at all, but still the homes on the ridge are fancier than the ones down below.
I'm not talking about the tourist zone anyways like the homes off 32 between Harman and Davis. I mean like there's homes off 15 between Webster Springs and 219 and the view are all just for them, there's TONS of examples where that's the case and the trees aren't cleared at all otherwise. Just seems like the state is lazy and doesn't care. And this isn't just WV, all the Appalachian states are like that where there's not much of an investment to build out scenic pullouts on ridge highways even if it just meant flattening some land, adding asphalt, and a sign.

>If I’m not mistaken that picture was taken at the top of Natural Bridge.
yup! very nice and lover's leap was such a pretty view

>I’ve spent a lot of time camping and hiking out there but I haven’t been back in a few years because it’s gotten pretty popular & it’s really crowded with people with no hiking or camping etiquette
parts are crowded, parts are not, on another board an anon told me about kylandforms dot com and there's hundreds of little overlooks in the area many only reachable by hours of hard off trail hiking that lead to cool views
auxier ridge is gonna be crammed, sure, but there's so many other trails and I also like big south fork, have you been there?

>>508267151
>There's basically nothing.
thats a good thing tho. you dont understand how fucking souless and horrid life is.
you think you have it bad, living close to the source, but youre so wrong.
I moved to the boonies during covid to avoid lockdowns and just get away.
my life, my mental health, my absolute happiness, etc are all so amazingly improved and amazingly good. you cannot underestimate how much life in a city/suburb is draining you until you move out to the country and just experience the stillness and quietness of nature.
I have chickens now and i hear my rooster crowing when i leave for work and its just great.

Grass is always greener man.
and ill also say this: ALL the men in my life, literally every single man i know envies me and exclaims how much they want to move where im at.

>>508271893
I've seen one on the trailcams.

>>508282160
New castle?

I lived in Asheville most of my life. Now I moved to California after the hurricane. It was a beautiful place -- but the economy there is now destroyed. Place is fucked. Got people staying out in tents. I knew what was going to happen because I was also in Katrina, so that makes two I've survived.

Joe Biden made sure I got a hotel voucher, payment for food, all that shit, in weeks, not months. He took care of Asheville, and he didn't block traffic after a major disaster for showboating like Trump did. He surveyed the damage via helicopter.

I miss Buncombe County everyday nigga. But not NC politics. lmao, glad to be in a blue state now.

I will always remember Joe for giving a fuck about my redneck community. He really did care, surprisingly.

>>508255556 (OP)
Yes, with this thread theme.
https://youtu.be/nHSZkghsMPM

>>508286774
Asheville seems expensive. Don't get me wrong, it's nice, but it's also kinda like too close to coastal Carolinas and all the people that brings. I am thinking about Chattanooga or Cincinnati they both seem nice. Tennessee maybe not a big fan of the state government but you are RIGHT near so much nice public land.

>>508267151

Unforutnately the whites in appalachian WV, VA, NC and TN are so low IQ that they become too isolationist. They hate browns and even whites from other places because they are so terrified of their culture being eradicated. Don't get me wrong, they have the right idea, but they lack the intelligence to make bonds with the right people, or any people to be exact. I've lived here for years after living across the country and these people could never get behind or facilitate a white ethnostate, because they are so cognitively limited. I've seen them treat out-of-state whites the same way they treat niggers, because their fear overcomes their desire to preserve and expand white, judeo-christian culture. They are just mountain niggers, keeping to their own in their mountain ghettos, attacking anyone that comes near- white, brown or black. It is highly unfortunate

>>508287066
getting caught up in culture/tribal wars is not a good use of my limited time on earth, I'm here to explore and see beautiful places

>>508287021
It's not like coastal carolinas at all. Coastal is like shitheads at Myrtle Beach and Hilton head. Having lived in Surfside it's an entirely different vibe. All bourgeoisie.

Asheville actually has young people (20's, 30's,) and it's a college town so it's a bit of a revolving store with UNCA.

>It's expensive
Yeah, you want at least $3500/mo+ income to live comfortably. And a job lined up before you move. Best thing to get hired into is state government work, insurance, or banking. NC itself is good for banking jobs. Idk your field so I can't speak on it.

btw for anyone itt the meta is literally this:
-> Get educated
-> Go blue state
-> Get high income, low col through roommates in the bluestate
-> Buy house in bumfuck red state
-> Nothing ever happens

>>508287462
I don't mean it's coast, I mean its 2 hours away from NC/SC major cities so u get loud tourists from those places. It's not close enough to the deep/pretty. You are reasonably close to the coast in Asheville and I want to be wedged into the hills, but in a decent sized town for medical care.

>>508259165
>>508255556 (OP)
>Favorite two places in the country are filled with weird stuff.
Am I a crypto cryptid?

Appalachia is beautiful, WV's twisting roads are a blast to drive on and anytime the woods are dead silent...well, that's not that cool because why would birds not sing, but still kinda cool. I hope it doesn't get too touristy as it seems that's the best way for anyone living there to get a decent wage that isn't for something more technical.

>>508255556 (OP)
Looks comfy

>>508288988
I'd like it to be a bit more touristy - but in a way locals can enjoy, families can enjoy, and especially it's really set up for regional tourism - attracting families and vacationers from the numerous surrounding cities and towns

>>508289100
yeah, it is

>>508255800
Appalachian’s beliefs are heavily racial. That’s the most racist place in America.

>>508290307
I live in rural westcountry of England which is kind of the Appalachia of Britain

>>508291551
does that mean north of wales I take it? Yeah, I mean England is geologically appalachia obviously though with much more proximity to the coast, and perhaps even more importantly, glaciation which flattens things out so you can farm, appalachia is harder to broadly commercially farm (in the unglaciated high hills) as well as having thin rocky soil

>>508255556 (OP)
The kikes will nuke it too, cause you keep mentioning it. And the hills shall acquire eyes.

>>508292837
there's too much raw land to nuke it all you would cause a nuclear winter doing that

>>508255556 (OP)
No. Fuck off were full, citynigger.

>>508293336
half the businesses in richwood, if not more, were abandoned and empty - including the good fancy pub bar that I had a wonderful rare burger at a few years ago
they got a ton of campers passing through you'd think there'd be more there than the usual dairy bar and gas station

>>508255556 (OP)
If you see something, no you didn't

>>508293336
>Fuck off were full, citynigger.
this is the plot of Deliverance, btw

>>508255556 (OP)
That ain't the good ol' boy rendezvous
Gonna get overran by dirty yank playing round in them smokies

>>508294006
I went to the smokies for the first time this year!
I wanna go back cuz well to escape the crazy heat I think that's the point of them, right, in the summer and all. Anyways there was so much like faux-native american souvenir stuff with tacky advertising I found it really weird. And the food was pretty bad. It's kinda cool that it's this glowing neon beach resort of a town in the middle of the hills though.

>>508255556 (OP)
It’s time, I’m ready. Send the transport.

>>508294579
where ya headed?

>>508294225
Checking out cave systems is fun. I use to do it way more when I was younger and more retarded. I've also done plenty of the proper tours
I've been interested in all the major cave systems and mountain ranges in America since I was in middle school-high school. Especially ones with multiple sources of fresh water in independent reservoirs and water tables
The constant cool temps in caves and large sources of underground fresh water could be very handy for what might be coming

>>508295221
its fun if they have steps and railings and lights
i did some big wild cave in tn years ago, it was hard and i was huffing and puffing by the end
interesting to have seen it - ive done a couple wild caves, but no interest in ever again

>>508256428
Isn't that song based on the Western part of the state of Virginia and not West Virginia state?

>>508297054
not even, it was written in the maryland suburbs along the roads near the potomac river, and yes the lyrics reference places in virginia