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Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508290828 >>508290981 >>508291090 >>508291241 >>508291353 >>508291755 >>508292033 >>508292190 >>508293407 >>508294031 >>508294663 >>508295706 >>508296492 >>508296562 >>508296678 >>508297156
How the fuck is he so powerful?
He just humiliated MAGA eternally?
How did he know?
Anonymous (ID: iotYSyzk) No.508290981 >>508296240
>>508290828 (OP)
He understands the Jew
Anonymous (ID: I61NlYBN) Canada No.508291090 >>508291280 >>508295022 >>508295778
>>508290828 (OP)
I mean Trumps campaign was almost entirely funded by Israeli Jews. Doesn't take a psychic to see who Trump works for.
Anonymous (ID: Kdm0TZre) United States No.508291241 >>508291329
>>508290828 (OP)
didn't he say "yes we won" when trump won in 2024? sounds like ever other homosexual i've known, they stand for nothing and lay down for everything because all they got on the mind is destiny's dick
Anonymous (ID: YYqskETa) Australia No.508291268
He married his daughter to a Jew
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508291280 >>508294905 >>508295969 >>508297220
>>508291090
apparently 99.95% of pol was wrong
i was there during his campaign
almost nobody supported nick
in a thread of like 300 anons there were like 2 who saw this coming
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508291329 >>508294237 >>508294341 >>508295775 >>508295929
>>508291241
he baited you, fucking retard
its been 6 months and you still dont understand that
and no, thats fake he didnt get suck from destiny you retarded faggot
all you can do is lie and cope
he was right
YOU LOST
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508291353 >>508293618
>>508290828 (OP)
what does he "win" for being "right"?
my problem with him is that he supported things that he ended up turning on right after his "your body my choice" tweet got him a shitload of heat.

>that's even too much for me!
Anonymous (ID: T450CqsC) No.508291438 >>508291708
Gayper thread
Anonymous (ID: FH+NS/fc) France No.508291440 >>508291743
WANT TO KNOW WHY JEWS PAY SHILLS TO SMEAR NICK FUENTES ONLINE 24/7?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/139a5uMMrgdNBAYf8UtRYA/

BECAUSE OF THIS:
https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes
https://twitter.com/NickJFuentes

>Con Inc CO-OPTS the Immigration Moratorium Position
https://rumble.com/v6un6hj-con-inc-co-opts-the-immigration-moratorium-position.html

>Tim Pool is a FRAUD
https://rumble.com/v6u2uu5-tim-pool-is-a-fraud.html?

>Conservatism is DEAD
https://rumble.com/v6ty8rr-conservatism-is-dead.html?

>White People are DONE with Black Violence
https://rumble.com/v6sb2vf-white-people-are-done-with-black-violence.html

>The Effort to Delegitimize Criticism of Jews
https://rumble.com/v6s6jv9-the-effort-to-delegitimize-criticism-of-jews.html

>The PSYOP to Undermine the Mass Awakening
https://rumble.com/v6ryto7-the-psyop-to-undermine-the-mass-awakening.html

>Jews HATE The Catholic Church
https://rumble.com/v6qb3bq-jews-hate-the-catholic-church.html

>The Online Right Has Gone Full Circle
https://rumble.com/v5tt80e-the-online-right-has-gone-full-circle.html

>Your Body, My Choice
https://rumble.com/v5na9cq-your-body-my-choice.html

>Most Banned Man In America | Jake Shield's Fight Back Ep.9
https://rumble.com/v5d5kuk-most-banned-man-in-america-fight-back-ep.9.html

>Most Banned Man In America | Fight Back Ep.9
https://rumble.com/v5d5kuk-most-banned-man-in-america-fight-back-ep.9.html

>It's Time to Tell the Truth about Jewish Power
https://rumble.com/v4y2yc3-its-time-to-tell-the-truth-about-jewish-power.html

>The Fake Controlled Right Wing
https://rumble.com/v4x1vd5-the-fake-controlled-right-wing.html

>Group Chat Leak EXPOSES Jewish Bribery Network
https://rumble.com/v4wv6co-group-chat-leak-exposes-jewish-bribery-network.html

>Nick Fuentes x Cheesur Stream
https://rumble.com/v4inuce-nick-fuentes-x-cheesur-stream.html

>Nick Fuentes vs Gavin McInnes | Zionism DEBATE
https://rumble.com/v46ijyc-zionism-slightly-offensive-debate.html
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508291647
I like consistency
massie, paul, and bannon pass the test

this one does not
Anonymous (ID: T450CqsC) No.508291664 >>508291708 >>508292336
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508291708
>>508291438
you lost
https://x.com/Red5djedi/status/1935084324413374566
>>508291664
its over
he was right, you were wrong
Anonymous (ID: T450CqsC) No.508291743
>>508291440
>WANT TO KNOW WHY JEWS PAY SHILLS TO SMEAR NICK FUENTES ONLINE 24/7?
And how much are you paid to spam this same post in every gayper thread?
Anonymous (ID: TJb3qFHm) United States No.508291755 >>508292336
>>508290828 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508292033 >>508292232 >>508292336
>>508290828 (OP)
I gotchu senpai
Anonymous (ID: Pai6V/oI) New Zealand No.508292190 >>508292336
>>508290828 (OP)
>America sides with Israel for the last 80 years
>HEY EVERYONE! America will side with Israel in this situation!
>See I told you! I'm so smart.
Anyone who has half a brain could see this coming.
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508292232 >>508292426
>>508292033
this is why purity tests kill
no one is "pure"

play by it, lose by it, and they love to play by it but they won't play by it here
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508292336 >>508292499 >>508292841 >>508292911
>>508291664
>>508291755
>>508292033
coordinated shilling to cope with you being wrong
how does it feel to shill for jews and be wrong all the time?
sad
>>508292190
apparently 99.95% of /ptg/ doesnt have a brain
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508292426 >>508292821
>>508292232
You can't fill your movement with pro-zionist jews and then claim you've been anti-zionist the entire time.
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508292499 >>508292598
>>508292336
Good thing I'm not MAGA, groypertard
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508292598 >>508292721
>>508292499
look man, you can keep crying about nick every single day, it wont change the fact we were right and you were wrong
you look more retarded by the day
its over for you
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508292721 >>508292958
>>508292598
>groypnigger in charge of not outting xirself
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508292821 >>508292970
>>508292426
i didn't even know this much but he clearly changed, but that's not my point
i just hate how disingenuous so many ideologues are on /pol/ who will spam a single tweet that proves so and so is pozzed but completely hand wave away when their own figures have as bad or worse skeletons

/pol/ is nothing but propaganda wars now, and yes, based off your image you by their own standards he is controlled op at best
Anonymous (ID: T450CqsC) No.508292841 >>508293017 >>508293195
>>508292336
>two people posted the same meme that means its not true
Did you remember to upload your resume on Nick Fuentes' website?
Anonymous (ID: Pai6V/oI) New Zealand No.508292911
>>508292336
>apparently 99.95% of /ptg/ doesnt have a brain
Yes. It's culture war idolism. Same shit from those Trump subreddits.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508292958 >>508293284
>>508292721
nice argument fucking retard
you must be a jeet with how dumb you are
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508292970 >>508293618
>>508292821
LOL
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508293017
>>508292841
its just outdated cope, you were wrong
its over
nick is not a fed or he would support dying for israel like you are
Anonymous (ID: T1h7RbPP) United States No.508293195
>>508292841
you kikes are in shambles
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508293284 >>508293842
>>508292958
This you?
Anonymous (ID: 032FkwWx) United States No.508293407
>>508290828 (OP)
That greasy spic wasn't the first to say this was going to happen.
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508293618 >>508293829
>>508292970
I am not pro Nick, this is my first post about him >>508291353

I think he has been devastating for young right wingers. I'm calling out how they slurp him while he has many issues that they would hang anyone else for. For a long time I thought /pol/ had been subverted by leftists because they mirror bunkertranny so much just with more edginess, but over time it seemed like he was a big reason for the change.

Full disclosure, I'm white, not racist, not even right wing. I used to consider myself a centrist but with the left going as crazy as they did I didn't change but I guess I turned into a reactionary(look it up if you don't know the definition, most people think it means you literally overreact). My parents lived under communist dictatorship so while they love to play up nazis I know that commies are the true threat which nu-/pol/ loves to suck off too. My question for you Aus-anon, you haven't warmed up to China have you? They are truly insidious and I know what they are doing in your country too.
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508293829 >>508294052 >>508294194
>>508293618
Ok, fair enough. It's pretty obvious Nick is a fed informant (probably after Jan 6). The funniest thing is it's his own cultists who keep getting arrested.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508293842
>>508293284
No, i dont worship a rabbi
Anonymous (ID: 2QX0Lotm) United States No.508294031 >>508294114 >>508294515
>>508290828 (OP)
Jews just got everything they want and they're angrier and more abusive than ever.

why?
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508294052 >>508294194 >>508294307
>>508293829
But you didn't answer my question about the Chiner Question. I'm genuinely curious. They had such a propaganda blitz ever since the Chiner virus that it's amazing to see how they changed their reputation after THAT. How do you feel about them. I'm asking specifically because you're an Ausfag, which arguably is among the worst in terms of China fuckery. At least in the West.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508294114
>>508294031
People just let them
/ptg/ is still defending trump
even people in this thread are
theyre just hopeless
the jews can do whatever they want, most people are just too dumb to understand the situation we are in
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508294194
>>508293829
>>508294052
well arguably the worst i should say, us/can/aus/nz are obviously among the worst with china subversion
while nu-/pol/ sucks them off as some kind of savior
Anonymous (ID: Kdm0TZre) United States No.508294237 >>508294323
>>508291329
he 100% fucked destiny and was pro-trump until trump people made fun of him for being scared of that kike that came to his doorstep, he still hangs out with nigger pedophiles, people who don't know him just know him as the gay mexican kid and i didn't vote for trump, 250,000,000 didn't vote for trump in the USA, you act like you believe most people did lol, you are eating up propaganda not even meant for you holy shit lol
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508294307 >>508294368 >>508294577
>>508294052
Chinkna currently has a full on psyop going on in Australia. Like half our universities are full of chinks and they keep getting arrested for spying for the communist party. It's pretty grim.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508294323 >>508294507
>>508294237
sorry no, there is no evidence for anything you said here
it is over
you were wrong
no copes, no crying and no seething will ever change that
you are nothing
Anonymous (ID: teEn1XDC) United States No.508294341 >>508294430
>>508291329
Nick flip flopped like a tranny with a lit sparkler up his ass before and after the election.
He acts like he was the first person to call a war in Iran or something. He wasn’t.

He scrapes from /pol/ and sells it as his own ideas.
Even your body my choice forever is a snarky way of phrasing /pol/ posts.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508294368 >>508294603
>>508294307
yeah its fucking over
chinks are everywhere, buying property, infiltrating the military and academia
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508294430
>>508294341
Nope, sorry
He predicted this would happen in october 2023
You are just coping
https://x.com/Red5djedi/status/1935084324413374566
Anonymous (ID: Zm1dEZt4) United States No.508294449
He knew the real threat
Anonymous (ID: Kdm0TZre) United States No.508294507 >>508294542
>>508294323
you being paid to be here IS the evidence. innocent people don't pay for shills and shills don't get to decide when they die

you've got yourself in a big gay mess, huh?
Anonymous (ID: EwImYU14) United States No.508294515
>>508294031
Because they just got everything they want. This is what they do with power when they feel they have it, anon.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508294542 >>508294618
>>508294507
Im not being paid at all, im just laughing at you retards who were wrong
Anonymous (ID: g4fntpVn) United States No.508294577
>>508294307
okay, i'm just glad you recognize it
sad that flags on /pol/ like mine and yours are among both the biggest that push back on the china shilling and also among the biggest that push china shilling

is nick a big pusher of pro-china talking points? it seems like some "WN" adjacent people have been hyping them up, i really don't pay attention and only know of them from /pol/
Anonymous (ID: nNfo7HDH) Australia No.508294603
>>508294368
Like just look at this shit. This happens constantly
Anonymous (ID: Kdm0TZre) United States No.508294618 >>508294688
>>508294542
so you're simping for a 5'6" mexican faggot who no doubt has an IQ south of the white average of 104

you're here for free and that's something you aren't ashamed of? you faggot zoomers aren't even human beings lol
Anonymous (ID: MbM2iZHb) No.508294663
>>508290828 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508294688
>>508294618
Im sorry, no amount of seethe will change the facts
Theres no combination of letters you can type which changes the truth
You were just wrong
Anonymous (ID: tiQjcfEo) United States No.508294731 >>508294924
>oh boy, another eceleb thread!
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508294782 >>508294924
Loud mouthed, opinionated, twits.
Their only purpose is to divide us amongst each other.

They will not lead you into anything but oblivion.

If you enjoy listening to mindless drivel because you're addicted to a social media. Then get off social media immediately.
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508294861 >>508294924
>Oh wow I'm part of a friendgroup of 5+ people....

No you're not. You're a loser and your opinions mean nothing.

Dump your friends and dump social media.
Anonymous (ID: hq84kOjU) Kenya No.508294905
>>508291280
>pol was wrong.
Doesn't surprise me. Remember the fucking 3 gorge dam cringe?
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508294908
>I never met my friends
You're a loser. You have no friends.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508294924 >>508295200
>>508294731
>>508294782
>>508294861
its ok to admit you were wrong
just dont defend this shit
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508294950 >>508295107
>I'm dating someone online
No you're dating an AI and you're an idiot.
Anonymous (ID: mN5v0Vle) United States No.508295022 >>508295183
>>508291090
It’s weird how Trump can be an Israeli asset and nick can be a federal informant in the same universe
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508295107
>>508294950
ai bot?
the fuck are you talking about
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508295183 >>508295782
>>508295022
why would a federal informant expose this?
it doesnt make sense, he doesnt call for violence or try to get people to incriminate themselves
whats federal about him? that he doesnt like jews or something?
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508295200 >>508295244
>>508294924
Yea it is, but not here and also I wasn't wrong. You don't know what my predictions were. I am drowned out by you idiots. I want to pummel you to death. You don't deserve anything you have.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508295244 >>508295274
>>508295200
meds
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508295274
>>508295244
Go be a worthless troll elsewhere.
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508295369
Sage all celeb threads.
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508295429
False grandiose celebrities appraised by Google trash.
Anonymous (ID: d8rFbwRK) Poland No.508295494 >>508295772
I'm just here to mine MIGA salt, don't mind me
>muh Fed, muh low-IQ antisemitism, muh marketplace of ideas
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508295542
All pro-google propagandists should fail along with google but unfortunately they won't. You will all have to tolerate these vermin indefinitely.
Anonymous (ID: cnBYy4Ig) Australia No.508295587
If your sages don't work. Just leave social media forever.

You're arguing with bots.

Every thread here is by a bot.
Anonymous (ID: WhImnBXb) United Kingdom No.508295689
Nick won.
Jews lost.
Anonymous (ID: aj2ot3zg) United States No.508295706 >>508295779
>>508290828 (OP)
I hate this retard so much. Everyone knew Trump was pro Israel. He’s made no secret of it. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem his first term. Pulled out of the UN for antisemitism. He ended the Iran deal his first term.
Anonymous (ID: o24AZzm9) United States No.508295772 >>508296650
>>508295494
>low-IQ antisemitism
That's a BAPoid talking point.
Anonymous (ID: R/73dPx5) United States No.508295775 >>508295883
>>508291329
Wow you are very gay
Anonymous (ID: bBJZecfl) United States No.508295778
>>508291090
Tell that to the people who still pretend that trump is the guy from the dark maga edits. I don't know what goes on through their minds when they call anybody that insults them for their lack of a spine a jewish shill while riding for the guy who is netanyahu's personal waiter
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508295779
>>508295706
You would think so, but /pol/ is not handling this well lmao
Anonymous (ID: NiPoUYQz) United States No.508295782 >>508295840
>>508295183
to keep you complacent
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508295840 >>508295977
>>508295782
complete bullshit, you can say whatever you like but its just cope
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508295883
>>508295775
you can be mad all you like, but i will remain being right about everything
Anonymous (ID: XaNf53Cn) Australia No.508295929 >>508296012
>>508291329
he 100% got fucked by destiny
Anonymous (ID: cHilJ22s) Thailand No.508295969 >>508296052
>>508291280
Wasn't he supporting no one for 2024 anyway?
Whether Trump won or lost he just said it's because of him
Anonymous (ID: NiPoUYQz) United States No.508295977 >>508296012
>>508295840
you feel better knowing other people know the same things you know. it makes you predictable.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296012 >>508296155 >>508296441
>>508295929
its just sad cope
you were wrong
its over
>>508295977
sorry, you were wrong
just stop talking and listen for once you dumb faggot
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296052
>>508295969
he was just trolling retarded miganiggers
he simply didnt support trump because he knew a war with iran was likely
Anonymous (ID: NiPoUYQz) United States No.508296155 >>508296244
>>508296012
it's true. that's why nick fuentes is allowed to stream and say what he says. to keep you complacent and predictable.
Anonymous (ID: D+UTI7LA) United States No.508296240 >>508296629
>>508290981
Because he is the Jew
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296244 >>508296512
>>508296155
hes banned on every platform except rumble
if he was a fed like you claim he would be allowed to stream on youtube alongside all you koshervative faggots
Anonymous (ID: XaNf53Cn) Australia No.508296441 >>508296517
>>508296012
he lives in your head rent free
Anonymous (ID: KiFx+CrT) United States No.508296492
>>508290828 (OP)
they're cyberattacking and doxxing people in this thread. they are using state level tech that they have no idea how to use. there are no crimes here. they're sick fucking people

it's afraid
Anonymous (ID: NiPoUYQz) United States No.508296512 >>508296580
>>508296244
he's allowed on rumble telegram twitter kik instagram tik tok and whatever other platforms. him being "banned" is a ploy to fake credibility.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296517
>>508296441
No, i never think about destiny
hes just a wikipedia reading midwit
i dont care what he thinks
Anonymous (ID: S1T8wuc8) Latvia No.508296562 >>508296666
>>508290828 (OP)
He is smarter than average. He actually listens when high iq people like JF and richard spencer speak. That puts him far ahead of any maga bot.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296580 >>508296671
>>508296512
he got banned on tiktok in like 2 hours lol
you dont know shit about him
shut up
Anonymous (ID: VL3/kYua) Australia No.508296629
>>508296240
ur jew
Anonymous (ID: d8rFbwRK) Poland No.508296650
>>508295772
Well, it so happens that le based kike Nietzschean entered the MIGA coalition some ago, gee, I wonder why, I cannot ponder the reason why he would do that, it's a true mystery.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296666
>>508296562
True
Anonymous (ID: NiPoUYQz) United States No.508296671 >>508296734
>>508296580
his videos are on there shared and watched by millions. his content is allowed on virtually every platform.
Anonymous (ID: nv8fe7FN) United States No.508296678 >>508296734
>>508290828 (OP)
He was MAGA until 2024
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296734 >>508296900 >>508296973
>>508296671
He simply won, its over kike
You lost
>>508296678
yes, luckily he saw reason unlike 99.95% of /pol/
Anonymous (ID: NiPoUYQz) United States No.508296900 >>508296930
>>508296734
nick fuentes is not "banned" from anything. it's fake controversy to placate you. look at what happened with kanye west.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508296930 >>508297115 >>508297269
>>508296900
>nick fuentes is not "banned" from anything
except he literally is
now i know you are lying
you talk in circles
Anonymous (ID: nv8fe7FN) United States No.508296973 >>508297069
>>508296734
>yes, luckily he saw reason unlike 99.95% of /pol/
Years after all of us did, when he called anybody who didn't suck off Trump jews. He's just another insincere grifter
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508297069 >>508297243
>>508296973
I believed this until I saw with my own eyes you faggots shilling for trump
I started listening to him when i saw that
After all we went through
You fucking faggots
Utterly fooled by jews
Anonymous (ID: S1T8wuc8) Latvia No.508297115 >>508297258
>>508296930
Go to rumble.com.
Type in nicholas j fuentes.
Watch his rants.
The real crime against him is being debanked. I have no idea how that is even legal to do to someone.
Anonymous (ID: qu3SpyC+) United States No.508297156
>>508290828 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: ThqAuto8) United States No.508297220 >>508297308
>>508291280
stfu nick, all you do is regurgitate shit people have been saying here for decades. If you couldnt see htis coming when the glowniggers tried to float "iran was involved in trying to assassinate trump" then you are just a stone cold moron. People really in the know have been talking about and expecting this before you were even born
Anonymous (ID: nv8fe7FN) United States No.508297243 >>508297335
>>508297069
>you faggots
I've been against Trump since 2018, as has much of the actual userbase of this board. Fuentes sent his followers to the capitol to get them thrown in prison while he waltzed away without a charge. You ehero is the biggest jewish slave here
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508297258
>>508297115
i know, hes just banned from basically everywhere else except x
Anonymous (ID: NiPoUYQz) United States No.508297269
>>508296930
he isn't. if he was banned he would be censored from platforms, no one could share his videos or clips. he would be removed from twitter.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508297308 >>508297602
>>508297220
Sorry man, this cope wont work
i was there
99.95% of /pol/ was calling him a democrat plant because he predicted this
you cant lie anymore
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508297335
>>508297243
>as has much of the actual userbase of this board.
i read the posts here, you cant lie anymore
you were fooled by him
Anonymous (ID: ThqAuto8) United States No.508297602 >>508297664
>>508297308
buddy I am bodhi mantra, 99.9% of anything any of you know about the Jews you learned from me over the last decade. I dont give a flying fuck about you and what you do or why.
Anonymous (ID: S9hDiinz) Australia No.508297664
>>508297602
cope and cry, you were wrong