Thread 508295504

are nukes even feasible weapons? couldn't they just be shot down?

>>508295504 (OP)
They are too powerful to be shot down. Only a nuke could shoot down a nuke.

>>508295845
Obviously you've never seen this movie

>>508295845
Yeah you have to match the yield of the other nuke too. Like if they are 150kt, you have to be 160kt or it doesn't work.

If you shoot a nuke doesn't it just explod?

>>508295504 (OP)
Using one will make the other side use it too and everyone will end up being a radioactive shithole

>>508295504 (OP)
They'll use hypersonic missiles that can't be easily countered.

>>508295504 (OP)
yes
but thats why you fire multiple at the same location.
even shitty 3rd world countries can get a few standard missiles through modern defense systems, so even a handful of nukes is enough to get at least one through.
probably something like 1 out of 5 to 1 out of 10 depending the the quality of the launch platform and the enemies defenses.

>>508295504 (OP)
Yeah but only very advanced militaries can intercept ballistic missiles. We could fuck New Zealand up.

Typical re-entry speeds for ICBM warheads are in the range of Mach 15, intercepting such objects is far from trivial even if you have perfect tracking information from the moment of launch, which you almost certainly won't have.

>>508296424
Every single location a nuclear bomb has been detonated has had the radiation clear within weeks to months. Even bikini atoll - life grows there no problem.

>>508296842
>life grows there no problem
yeah

>>508295504 (OP)
ALL ballistic missiles go into low orbit, release their warheads, which then fall to earth at hypersonic speeds. They have electronic guidance that allows them to "veer" towards a target in a several hundred mile radius.
Each missile can carry up to 20 warheads. So unless you can shoot them on the way up, or in space, they are very hard to defend against.

>>508297036
show me a mutant fish from bikini atoll
protip: you can't

>>508296424
I never believed this. Worst case scenario two opposing countries get BTFO and that's it. Nukes don't leave long-lasting radioactivity like Chernobyl.

>>508296423
No, the bomb has a bomb inside it who's job it is to make the nuclear stuff be sqeezed together. If you shoot the bomb, that process doesn't work as planned.

The nuclear parts are already radiating all the time, but usually those atomic shots are just lost to the environment. You just want everything to be so close together that they instead trigger multiple other shots (chain reaction)

>>508296842
They had to dig up the fallout and place it under concrete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbw7fpG9dA

>>508297157
could they even live long in that environment? it would probably be food scraps in a moment

>>508297157
(Real)

>>508297321
>nuke enemy
>enemy nukes us
>enemy's nuke-having friends nuke us
>we nuke enemy's nuke-having friends
repeat until basically every major city in the world is dust

>>508295504 (OP)
No, only the Iron Giant could take down a nuke.

>>508296280
>muh 80s-90s tom clancy russia bad boomerslop
no i did not, Eugene. nor will i, nor will any of us. you are a dying breed, do you not understand?

>couldn't they just be shot down?
They're usually attached to ballistics missiles, which are a bitch and a half to shoot down.

>>508297157
>a mutant fish from bikini atoll

>>508295504 (OP)
they can't be show down retard, they move at Mach 20-25 aka 20000 km/h (16000 miles per hour)
>>508296842
is not about radiations moron, if you nuke hundreds of cities Worldwid the entire world will be covered in smoke for months or even years, so billions will starve because no more food

>>508297717
if you nuke hundreds of cities, 95% of niggers in the west die. Demographics go back to the middle ages, and white countries get a hard reset. Guess who is likely to survive in the years following a nuke strike? That's right, the natives, because all the niggers jeets beans and other untermench got nuked.

So bring it on.

>>508297717
>if you nuke hundreds of cities Worldwid the entire world will be covered in smoke for months or even years
what a crock of shit.

>>508297543
>enemy's nuke-having friends nuke us
This is a HUGE stretch.

>>508297543
we'd probably be fine
struth

>>508295845
I read this in Vin Diesel’s voice

>>508298646
noice

>>508295845
It would take a crane to get it out

>>508298029
it seems reasonable

>>508295504 (OP)
It's not nukes they are terrified of it's bi-directional BCI's associated with Havana Syndrome falling into hands outside of those involved in the classified international agreements.

>>508297717
not my problem.

no, they use the mirv system where they travel to space and release multiple supersonic warheads from a single icbm

>>508295504 (OP)

Well, even if the warhead doesn't explode the enriched uranium where you shoot it down will be deadly as fuck.

>>508295504 (OP)
https://fstdt.com/J2C5
Nukes are like Santa Claus. Everyone talking about them by nobody seen them.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki fitebombed wood and paper houses ( classic Japanese architecture). Las Vegas atomic tourism tests refusal tnt explosions and EG&G sfx photography

>>508297717
>in smoke for months or even years, so billions will starve because no more food
what a load of bullshit. this isnt an asteroid impact propelling dust and smoke into the upper atmosphere, creating an ice age.

>>508295504 (OP)
A nuclear strike would be a bunch of mostly conventional missiles and decoys with a few nuclear warheads mixed in, one or two of which detonating high up in the atmosphere to fuck with radar and IR.

Water serene despite the explosion

Japan nuke picture obviously fake

>>508301822
>water still falling
Fast forward 30 seconds.

>>508301320
>vegas nukes were tnt
I don't know about that, they seem to explode in a different way

>>508301822
seems serene in this angle

>>508301918
https://youtu.be/4jVamAPyfFg?si=_lCiYNquovNU6vae
See for yourself

>>508302067
They did tnt rehearsals in trinity test. I wonder why>>508302067

>>508295845
>OP makes shitty thread
>Australian replies something retarded

Some things on this board never change.

>>508302412
The lookout mountain studios
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookout_Mountain_Air_Force_Station

>>508302320
Too low resolution to see the effects.
If you were expecting a tsunami you're out of luck. Water around ground zero vaporizes faster than the blast can move it and the rest is limited by the weight of the rest of the ocean.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydWLkyMRfaU
Ripple on the surface.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYbVQY0cBWk
Wave visible.

>>508295504 (OP)
If Israel could shoot down the most advanced missiles with most decoys that will be carrying the nukes then they would be shooting down the 50 year old missiles that are bombing them now.

>>508302802
Water vaporizes but telegraph poles and concrete buildings remain

>>508295504 (OP)
>can't they be shot down

Regardless if nukes are real, the short answer is no. Not examining the payload, looking at the verifiable ballistic missile tech, next generation missiles travel around 10k miles per hour and are unable to be intercepted from the ground by conventional surface-to-air missiles. Due to this I believe the next thing will be low-orbit space-based laser. The concept of the death star was merely predicted programming of events in the distant, now near future. It's also why the space force was created. Eventually space will be a massive theatre of combat.

>>508297543
Please nuke Los Angeles and New York.

>>508302412
This is retarded. Fission explosions work differently from detonations (combustion reaction that propagates through a medium faster than the speed of sound) but the result is the same, obscene energy released in a very short amount of time, the definition of explosion.
This "rehearsal" was to spread radiation around so the sensors monitoring the fallout could the tested and calibrated.
>>508303410
Concrete structures will fair a lot better than structures made from wood and paper. Charred if it had a direct line of sight to the exact point the bomb exploded at, but standing if it was far enough away.

Bikini bottom nowadays full of life

>>508295504 (OP)
uhhh do you not realize how massively huge the sky is? finding and locking onto a missile in all that space would be like not just finding but also threading a needle in a haystack - very tough! we can do it, idk about the other guys

>>508304308
Read the rest of the article.

>>508304426
The compensation were like covidbuxx. Be paid to lie. In Covid, families and hospitals were given money for Covid deaths. So it was profitable for most deaths to be Covid related

>>508295504 (OP)
Check out Oreshniks

Of course it's a bot.

>>508301320
>Be Iran
>live next to warmongering psychopaths
>try to get the weapon to fend them off
>just as a scare tactic so no lives have to be lost
>spend years developing the western weapon
>constant attacks, enemy always claims you're almost there
>it doesn't exist
I'd be mad

>>508304774
I think all governments are into the lie. Just like Covid

>>508295845
what? no! another nuke would possibly detonate the other nuke's yield, which isnt what you want at all
a fragment type interceptor explosion will damage the electronics and the nuke can't detonate anymore. nuclear payloads are extremely sensitive to detonate, you need perfectly synchronized explosions and electron emitters and all kinds of shit that most countries didn't even figure out hot to do exactly yet

>obvious well poisoning
>IMG_XXXX
>fucked formatting
>unnatural writing pattern
>ignores arguments
>shifts subject as soon as a different keyword is detected
Come on, mossad. We deserve better AI than this, surely you can scrape some more talented indian programmers.

>>508305830
> formatting
Back to plebbit

>>508297157
>protip: you can't
Sure about that bucko?

>>508304940
What did you vote for in the previous elections?

>>508299669
Kek, haven't seen that one in a while.

>>508308290
Didn’t vote