Thread 508431407

Why is it allowed to sell a roofing material that will not last for the life of the building?

>>508431407 (OP)
caveat emptor

>>508431519
this sadly, don't get cucked

>>508431407 (OP)
dude, the shingles made with tar, will be there even if the cardboard and the wood have already desintegrated

>>508431784
They start to disintegrate after 30 years.

>>508431407 (OP)
sell carpets, washing machines, refrigerators, toilets etc that don't last the "life" of the building. why is op so fucking retarded to kill a thread asking dumbass child questions?

Why is it legal to buy a shitty car or crappy clothes which fall apart? We need big Democrat government to solve the roofing problem!

>>508431519
This is Jewspeak. A real society has standards they put on companies so people don't get fucked over. Just as it has no usury.

capitalism

>>508431407 (OP)
i believe outside of OSHA americans have zero to no standards.

in their super tolerant freedom loving country everything goes and they hate norms and regulations like DIN or ISO

Shingles are more affordable than tiles. They actually last a reasonable life span and do a good job at sealing as long as they are installed correctly. This gives people without tons of money an option to have a roof over their head. I don't see what the problem is here. You want it to be illegal for people to be able to build a house that's anything less than a true mansion?

It's the same reason plywood and 2x4's are available- it's affordable, and allows people to have a house. 2 foot thick medieval castle stones are expensive and difficult to come by.

>>508433323
dont you also have entire walls made out of drywall instead out of concrete?

i often see these yt vids and laugh always a lil bit

>>508431407 (OP)
is there ANY roofing material, that will last for the life of the building?

>>508431407 (OP)
Capitalism has created the system.
If you want to see what a world where the government uses the money capitalism can make, look at China, and how incredible their infrastructure projects are. If you want to see how capitalism can be used to make a tiny percentage incredibly rich and spunk loads on the military, whilst letting your country's infrastructure rot and crumble, check out the USA(!).

>>508433796
chinese factory workers get paid $4/hour

>>508431407 (OP)
great thread

love this when people complain about how badly they cut corners with these products to steal from consumers

need more threads like this

>>508433630
I live in a tostaer

>>508431407 (OP)
Wait until you hear about lightbulbs.

>>508431407 (OP)
consumerism

/thread

>>508432001
It probably depends on the climate. There are better options available if you want to pay for them. Its expensive to upgrade to concrete tiles, plus the roof needs to be built strong enough to hold the extra weight. The sky's the limit to what your building options are here in the USA.

>>508433630
Metal roofs are better than shingles, but its more expensive, makes noise in rain, and it might be hard to find a competent installer depending on where you are.

>>508432465
furniture is not the same as component of the building itself

>>508433630
Probably ceramic or whatever China/Asia uses. Coated metal probably works too.Shingles are quiet in the rain. That's really the only advantage of them. It's nice when you're outside but inside it has the bell effect of
>tunk tunk tunk tunk tunk tunk tunk tunk tunk
t. I have metal roofing. it's really annoying when it rains. If it's a mist/drizzle it sounds like pleasant chimes

>>508433630
Slate roofs will last over 100 years if done properly

>>508431407 (OP)
Because no such material exists?

>>508431407 (OP)
my buddy got a metal roof installed
will last for a brazillion years
but it sounds stupid when it rains ---- and we live in rainforest so it rains a lot

much prefer the comfy pitter-patter of llght rain, and the gentle roar of heavy rain on shingles to the industrial-shell sound of metal.
quality of life

>>508431407 (OP)
Free market, you fucking commie scum

>>508434485
the fucking amish of all people do metal roofs around me here. they show up in a van driven by somebody who isnt amish, and then all the amish unload all their electric power tools and shit and do a roof in like 1 hour
that said the neighbors roof that the amish put up looks great
the other neighbor with the metal roof installed by a bunch of fat probably alcoholics is rusting. lines and corners all fucked up and shit. sure you have to look to notice, but you do notice

>>508431407 (OP)

Because you are a Spook

>>508434902
youre a moron if you really believe that you live in a free market country

research and count the small businesses vs big businesses and their profit difference. also research who owns both

stfu midwit

>>508434876
50 years is the life expectancy of a metal roof.
If it sounds like ass it means it was installed poorly.

>>508433456
Yes. The only concrete in most American homes is the foundation and maybe the floor. Brick homes are dying out and I don't think I've ever seen a home with metal beams. It's all mass produced, cheap, cookie-cutter housing which means you get solid wood beams, particle-board walls, plastic plumbing, and cancer-inducing insulation. If your house has a basement then there's concrete or cinder blocks and metal reinforcement beams/rebar. Usually just concrete blocks so in areas where the ground freezes then defrosts, it slowly damages the foundation. One of the houses I lived had in the walls separating from the floor due to flooded, wet land causing the foundation to shift. Before my family moved you could get your foot stuck in the gap that ran along the entire ground floor on one side of the house.

>>508433323
bedtime, boomer

>>508431407 (OP)
As opposed to eurocucks that make roofs out of sticks and bugs?

>>508431407 (OP)
how about Why in the fuck are roof shingles BLACK in hot and sunny states like FL?
my house is a solar oven with a $400 electric bill just to maintain 78f, other then that its just a fridge and a laptop

>>508431407 (OP)
It's kind of weird. Metal roofing is not that much more expensive than shingles. At least in my area. Lost of Amish buildings, they all have metal roofing, maybe that's why.

>>508432481
>We need big Democrat government to solve the roofing problem!
in FL we have to replace our roof ever 15 years by law

>>508435285
Because they are made out of tar?

>>508431407 (OP)
It's part of the building and not all parts last as long as others.
It's simple, but amerimutts can't take care of their buildings.
This is because you have become brown and brown people don't do maintenance.
That is why there are so many ruins in brown countries.

>>508434962
>then all the amish unload all their electric power tools

>>508431407 (OP)
you know, it should just be a given at this point in time
but basically, if you have to come to this fucking board seeking an honest answer to a question
the answer has to be jews
if it weren't, you wouldn't have to ask here

>>508435475
yep

>>508435400
Even with 50 year warranty metal roofs?

>>508435317
tin roofs are great but you need to do it like your pic where they lay a tin roof right over the old roof to create a thermal and infrared barrier.
tin only roofs transmit the heat/cold right though

>>508435285
Older shingles used white asphalt because they were from when products were made to last, not replace. I used to work roofing, the white gravel drove me insane. Even in OP pic you can see the white rocks. It's so fucking spooky replacing shingles on roofs with high-grades. If you don't have something to brace against, you're just going to slide off once the rocks get moving.
Where I'm at now, on top of having black fucking shingles some genius decided to run the internet cables on the fucking roof so now the black cables, surrounded by black shingles, are connected to metal gutters and they cables are melting because I live in a shrubland/desert. I have no idea why they didn't use any conduit to protect the wires or bury the lines. It's the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

>>508431407 (OP)
think of it as tires for your car

>>508434731
You a yank aincha? Rain on a metal roof puts me to sleep, same with the thunderstorms that cause them.

>>508433630
you don't have brick roof tiles? Pretty sure you do.

>>508433121
>i believe outside of OSHA americans have zero to no standards.

OSHA exists to strangle the small businesses, its so overcomplicated only the economy of scale can afford to work at all.

Besides that they have a bunch of codes that prohibit you from fixing your own wires and plumbing to protect the plumber and electrician unions, and they also have an insanely complicated system of certification to make sure there are always very few electricians, doctors and dentists to keep their work in high demand.
In Europe an electrician is a low end tradesman who puts the wire in the wall.
In America an electrician is the prestigious wire lawyer.>>508433045


Basically they have a lot of standards but all of them are designed to fuck you over and gouge the prices of everything.

>>508435419
they make light ones but they are almost nonexistent.
we could legitimately achieve more carbon reduction then every green project ever by not wasting 40% of or electric output on air conditioning the outside of our houses

>>508435475
Yeah they are allowed to use electric tools, it depends on their priest, and the community council.

>>508435679
Depends on the structure use but it's for sure cheaper. Moisture trapping is a problem in this case too, which can degrade the roof causing corrosion. Plus metal roofs are heavier and some structures should have the old roof removed since it can cause other problems due to the weight.

It's really about choosing the right tool for the job.

>>508435475
Yep. It's a pretty good trick they pull.
>oh no no no IRS we don't use your modern shit we're trapped in the past by our religion yessir
They're like native americans on reservations but smarter. It's a jew-like tactic that I can honestly admire.
What's really fun is visiting an Amish community and speaking German to them. They get VERY offended that you can mostly understand what they're saying and will vanish as best they can until you leave. At least the men will. They also get offended if you try to haggle.

>>508436056
>haggle the amish
that's insulting as fuck.

>>508433796
If you want to see a country that fails at both, look at us! At least we have slate tiled roofs as standard I suppose.

>>508435679
>Tin roof is great
Said literally nobody ever.

>>508432913
>A real society has standards they put on companies so people don't get fucked over.
And when the EU does this iqlets seethe even when they're the ones that most need it.

>55 posts on a thread about roof tiles on a political board
>my thread about Trump and Iran gets slid and zero replies
fml

>>508435210

>>508432913
are you saying there were no adverse effects resulting in permanent illness or death?

>>508436056
>They also get offended if you try to haggle.

Most people find haggling offensive, as well as the culture of having a waiter nag you for an additional compensation that wasn't listed anywhere.

Other countries see this as petty and mercantile, if I don't like the first price i just leave, haggling is beneath me.

>>508435003
Thats literally the free market

>>508436056
>They also get offended if you try to haggle.

Most people find haggling offensive, as well as the culture of having a waiter nag you for an additional compensation that wasn't listed anywhere.

Other countries see this as petty and mercantile, if I don't like the first price i just leave, haggling insults both parties basically you are basically being
>Gibs me that with a discount
>Why would i?
>Oh because you aren't as good as you think you are and your goods/services are worth less than you listed
>Get the fuck out you bum

I wish someone would drop a load into my asshole

>>508431407 (OP)
My house has a thatched roof.
The house itself is 430 years old. The roof is replaced every 15 years.

>>508436493
He probably means a galvanised steel roof, not actual tin. Nobody uses tin anymore. Steel roofs are great, other than the noise.

>>508434731
metal roofs are peak comfy in the rain. Tile is fine too though.

>>508433323
>This gives people without tons of money an option to have a roof over their head.
I just looked up some random building in Iran and they are using metal on their roof. People in Iran can afford to put metal on their roof.

>>508431407 (OP)
I wipe my ass with shingles

>>508435792
>brick roof tiles?
The building had to be engineered for the weight which is usually isn't

Amerilards are afraid of clay shingles
Their freak weather events fuck their houses so bad that they have to default to the cheapest materials

>>508431407 (OP)
I did a demolition job were the roof was thick af rubber shingles. Why spend a crazy amount of money when the wife will ask for a full renovation 7 years down the road.

>>508434348
Ceramic tiles with a brick house. suck my dick mutts

>>508438986
Owmuschat loisenzcossm8?

>>508439114
My ballz are sweating

>>508431407 (OP)
>mutts are too poor to afford roof tiles

This shit will never be not funny to me. The cheap off the shelf ceramic tiles I use were rated for 75 years and better ones were available. Although it must make some sense on the plywood cucksheds they live in, they don't even know bricks over there, fucking lmao.

>>508440072
Its 2am and there is a man on meth in the parking lot across the street screaming like a zombie too.

>>508440227
Must be sad having such american problems. Have you tried muttering "t-they are just jealous of us" to yourself?

>>508431407 (OP)
N

>>508440072
Region dependent. The US is a big place.

Ceramic tiles are very cheap and last forever, why don't Americans have this technology yet?

>>508440941
we do. it's literally all over the southern areas, from Florida to California

>>508431407 (OP)
I bought an aluminum roof.
Rasta wrong time

You are sold slop and you pay millions. You are being fucked in ass and think it is normal.

>>508440941
We used to have super flammable wood shingle roofs in California but I haven't' seen any in about 20 years.

>>508440941
your own picture says "american tiles", joão

>>508431407 (OP)
Why sell brakes that don't last the life of the car?

Because it's a wearable part. It takes impacts and wears down over time.

There isn't a quieter option for roofing material.

>>508440797
Yes, a big, homogenous shithole. Quit this coping, you know its not true.

>>508440941
Like everything else, they were kiked hard and they WANT to believe it, they WANT it to be true, they would rather worship the jew who ripped them off to the end of days, rather than admitting that they were stupid. Its a very typical american behavior pattern, you can see it in practically anything they do. They want to think themselves as someone who can do no wrong, so even if it absolutely breaks them, they will keep pretending.

>>508441408
>the roof is like brakes
The walls are like bearings. Ever heard of a bearing wall.

Its like asphalt shingles
But on a metal
So you kinda have two roofs

>Mooom. Why he gets two scoops and we get rain in our home?

>>508441773
What are you trying to say Ahmed?

What do you mean? American houses are only meant to last for 10 years max. They are cheap and disposable because they either:
A) Blown away in wind
B) Burn down in fire
C) Washed away in floods
D) Get bought out by investors that land bank so hard that they're too big to for the government to let fail so they get to dictate the zoning and building laws across the country

>>508442476
We have been through a phase where asphalt impregnated wood chips, fiberglass, asbestos were supposed to replace ceramic sewer pipes. It all turned to crap and collapsed.

>>508434731
Ceramic is pretty normal in most of europe I believe? I dunno maybe just in Norway. I dunno. I thought ceramics was normal everywhere.

>>508441773
english, please

>>508435989
are roofs are hurricane rated so the weight isn't a issue

>>508440072
There's plenty of terracotta roofing in the US, it depends on climate.
Here in bumfuck nowhere no one uses asphalt anymore, it's all aluminum alloy.

>>508443867
>roofing depends on the climate

muttoids say the darnedest of things

>>508445833
Retarded nigger, you can just pick any random city in socal and the satellite view will be fucking orange from the terracotta

>>508435130
Why do Americans built so cheaply?
Even if you go into nice homes in DC/NW Virginia built in the past 5 years everything is cheap material and all interior (and I mean everything) is made in China tier.
Downtown buildings are even worse in every city because their cheap materials are cheap materials from the 50s or 60s. Shittiest hotels Ive been in were in US cities and they were still expensive.

>>508445833
isnt hungary the definition of a mutt country? read a history book lol

>>508434846
What are clay roof tiles? Mine are close to 100 years old. You just need to clean the moss and lichen off every few years.

>>508433323
Also having slate roof tiles getting picked up at 200mph in tornados might be problematic.

>>508432001
>They start to disintegrate after 30 years.
Modern rafters and trusses start to disintegrate after 25 years.

>>508433323
Well that's bs. I redid my roof with tiles and it was 20k total (removing en disposing old tiles, insulation, new wood and tiles) and it will last atleast 60 years. Tiles are cheaper than shingels and alot more durable

Why don't people just use the corrugated iron roofing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrugated_galvanised_iron

>>508446886
Because it's earrape in heavy rain.

>>508438986
This is why you fags die in 80 degree weather.

>>508447124
I like the sound.

I am going to buy a bit of land and have a steel frame house.

>>508433323
Owning a house in America is a pipedream, like Canada, Britain, and Australia. My parents just sold their house, and with the renovation work, they made almost three times the cost. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>508440072
>>508443867
>>508445833
roofing sdoes depend on the location
i live in Vancouver, it's a temperate rainforest and terracotta shouild be good with all that rain, but
1. it does not fit aesthetically in Canada, we don't have any Mediterranean history and we don't build in that style. there are some houses like that with the predicatable palms flanking the house, but they look foreign and out of place
2. we have a lot of huge trees, big tall trees and in spring windstorms some fall over and many more lose branches.
big branches, falling from height, fuck up teracotta roofing pretty badly

two reasons we don't use that here
mostly asphalt shingles or cedar shakes
people don't really want to put a metal roof on a 100-year-old house

>>508446691
>Modern rafters and trusses start to disintegrate after 25 years.
That’s not true at all. They’ll last indefinitely as long as you don’t let the roof leak.

>>508431407 (OP)
What?
Do you think rooves last forever?

>>508431407 (OP)
>life of the building
What is the life of the building?

>>508431407 (OP)
when will you 3dworld shitskins start using reinforced concrete for your roofs?

>>508431407 (OP)
>>508431519
>>508431658
To give illegals something to do.

>>508431407 (OP)
Home ownership is just another humiliation ritual. You can't build anything remotely durable or high quality in the US that will meet "single family" zoning and permitting.

>>508447439
True.
Interrupt banking.

>>508447439
They don't have kitset homes?

What about the tesla houses things like that?

>>508431407 (OP)
Because you aren't allowed to lie about how long the materials are expected to last. Hence>>508431519 . If you knowingly use inferior materials then what happens is entirely your fault.

>>508447411
Who the fuck does that?

>>508447439
That’s silly. What part of the building code forces you to build “non-durable” construction?
>>508447402
The life of a building is 50 years. That doesn’t mean it will turn into dust after 50 years, but that is the expected lifespan from a statistical perspective.
>>508447400
An asbestos shingle roof will come closed to matching the actual lifespan of the house. I’ve seen 100 year old asbestos shingle roofs still in functional service. But, of course, you can’t buy those any more.

>>508431407 (OP)
how are baby boomers supposed to run scam roofing companies if you need skilled masons to do it?

>>508447574
Some places. Practically speaking you're getting whatever the local builder has made or some shithouse made multiple decades, if not half a century ago.

>>508447592
Actual 3rd worlders who build everything out of poorly-constructed concrete and never finish their projects

>>508447692
>The life of a building is 50 years
Why? Why not 100 years?

>>508431407 (OP)
You can buy a roof that will outlast the building, it's just expensive.
It's like why an oil refinery buys and installs pipes that will wear out in 30 years, rather than one that will last 90+. They are 40% more expensive.
For most people paying 10% more for a house with a roof that will never fail is not worth the savings over the 25-35 year of the cheaper roof.

And for most people they are correct and will have much more money after the roof wears out, both in absolute and relative terms.

>>508431407 (OP)
>last for the life of the building
Gee. I wonder why the part of a building that takes the most wear and tear from sun and weather whos job it is to protect the rest of the stucture from the elements shielding and redirecting where possible doesn't last as long as the interior stucture can. Next you'll tell me you have to replace your clapboards/siding sometimes too. Now I don't much care for architectural shingles but even copper or slate roofs are going to need fixing eventually. Buildings require upkeep and maintenance, that's just a reality, and no exterior component is going to last forever if it's not being maintained, patched, and/or repaired as needed. Asphalt singles are a more affordable option than more long term roofing materials and don't require much skill to install. The trade off to that accessibility and affordability is a shorter lifespan.

>>508447818
That’s the number that got picked. Again, that’s from a statistical perspective. So it’s used to calculate the wind and earthquake forces that are likely to hit the house. So your house is designed to safely withstand a windstorm or earthquake that would occur once every 50 years. This was chosen because you have to pick something.
My house is over 100 years old and will last another 100 year with proper maintenance.

>>508445833
The airport in Palm Springs is open to the outside, like the terminal building is just open.
You clearly couldn't do that in Chicago.

>>508448045
Most well made stick built homes will last, if they are maintained properly

>>508447764
bitch plz, building construction is the one thing we do well

>>508446383
>mutt mystery meat gets upset about fucking ROOFS and tries to project

>>508447249
Literally the entire world uses terracotta tiles. Its a solved technology, its viable from northern Russia to unga bunga nigger jungleland.

>>508448390
Greece is a shithole.
No one cares what you think.

>>508447912
I am not fond of imbecilic jewish capitalists like this one

>>508448390
Anon, I’ve been to Athens. You couldn’t finish a project to save your life. Nothing but exposed rebar laps, waiting for floors that will never be poured.

>>508448441
The rooves need to be structured to withstand the tiles deadweight.
You cant just add tiles to a home not meant to have them.

>>508448685
Mediterranean countries are dirty and lazy as fuck.

>>508448451
based ad hominem sharter

>>508448701
The build proper buildings, not plywood cucksheds.

>>508448221
For sure. But “50 Years” is the official number.

>>508448919
Guess what we had, and have a lot of in the US?
Trees, we make lumber and houses out of them. Because they are plentiful and cheap.
Now you dont have many trees so you make homes with stone and whatnot.

Do you think at all before you start rambling?

>>508448701
>rooves
Anon, it’s “roofs”.

>>508431407 (OP)
I guess fired clay tiles are too expensive for the regular amerigolem

>>508431407 (OP)
>be boomer
>currently sitting at my retirement home outside of Sarasota
>enjoying a sensible chuckle while societies most incapable and lazy people talk out their ass about home construction on this particular Mongolian finger box forum
Never change faggots!

>>508449107
Even a “stone” or “brick” building still has a wood roof and wood floors

>>508449183
They get used in certain regions. They are very expensive to place and very expensive to repair. My house started its life with clay roof tiles but at some point over the last 100 years they were replaced with shingles. This is pretty common.

>>508449107
>Guess what we had, and have a lot of in the US?

Jews. Thats why you are getting kiked into paying hundreds of dollars for plywood sheds. Quit trying to cope about it, there is a proper way to build houses that last for centuries, and there is the fuckery you are doing.

>>508449657
Do you even know what plywood is? Whatever failings there are in modern construction, use of plywood isn’t one of them.

>>508449657
>Reee jews reeeeeree
Holy fucking shit.
Is this the only thing you fucking faggots think about?

>>508449173
Wrong.
Your language has been niggerfied.

>>508449358
I mean so did mine, and we upgraded to cement and metal after 70 years, and the clay tiles were 90% recycled to another house, chances are that those same tiles will get used in even another house down the line.
I feel like you guys are getting ripped off when clay is very expensive.

>>508431407 (OP)
I dont know man why the fuck dont you use real tiles?
>>508433323
>castle stones
You have no idea what you are talking about google Precast Concrete House

>>508450093
We keep it inconsistent so we can immediately detect interlopers

>>508449107
>stone
If its not build out if wood it has to be stone? Dumb fuck american retards man

>>508450385
Or brutalist shitty concrete, for useless commie trash.

>>508450166
It’s the labor. Removing the old tiles without breaking them is very labor-intensive and (non-illegal) construction labor isn’t cheap. So they typically just get thrown off and broken. I have seen them re-used but if you’re putting on a new roof it’s best to just go with new material.

>>508450262
>Precast Concrete House
We would just use masonry blocks and grout them solid to get the same effect much cheaper.
>tiles
I guarantee this anon >>508449209
has a tile roof on his house. They are very common in Florida.

American Shingles are relatively cheap, lightweight and easy to work with. All this talk about clay shingles are heavy and energy intensive to produce since ceramics need to be FIRED. Along with the fact the shingles last 15 to 20 years and are easy to drag up on to a roof and replace, much less drag OFF the roof. All your roof's are over engineered. If you overpayed and got ripped off on your USA shingle roof then thats on you. The fact these roof's are so cheap means theres the possibility of bending someone over and fucking their asses raw financially to replace their roof and pocket your steep mark up for "skilled" labor.

>>508450472
By far the best way to build a house with all kinds of insulation and finishes. Cheap, very fast and lasts over 2 generations if youre not retarded

>>508434348
>concrete tiles
do mutts really

>>508431407 (OP)
Ever heard of thatch? Asphalt tiles lasting for 20-30 years isn't really a problem.

>>508446691
You can't buy treated wood in Ireland? Even untreated wood lasts longer than that unless it's exposed to water.

>>508431407 (OP)
just ask AI for scientific consensus on best building material for your specific climate.
here its granite for building, and slate for roof


for roofs in nordics:

"Slate demonstrates remarkable longevity, with properly installed slate roofs lasting 75-200 years or more . Its ultra-low water absorption rate (less than 0.4%) and natural resistance to freeze-thaw cycles make it particularly suitable for Nordic conditions ."
--

for buildings in nordics
"Traditional masonry construction using natural stone offers unparalleled longevity compared to modern alternatives "

"Natural Stone: The Ultimate Long-Term Solution
Granite - The Premier Choice
Granite emerges as the most durable building material for extreme longevity . This igneous rock offers exceptional properties for Nordic climates:

Freeze-thaw resistance: Granite's dense structure and low water absorption rate (typically less than 0.5%) make it virtually immune to frost damage

Durability span: Granite can withstand some of the harshest environments with relatively little upkeep for centuries

Temperature stability: It resists expansion and contraction during extreme temperature variations, minimizing cracking risks "

>>508450761
VOCs banned in EU.
Environ-mental please understand.

Americans are dumb thats why
My house has the same roof that was put on it back when it was built in the 1960s.
As solid as the day it was built

>>508436493
Fuck off, tin roofs are great.
This house has a tin roof and right now it's raining.
So cozy to be snuggled up in bed listening to the rain.
Down here it's either tin or concrete tiles.
Tiles require stronger framing to support the weight.

>>508450262
I live in Florida and when Hurricanes blow through it is the terracotta tile roofs with the most damage. It gets under one and they peel right off or break after hit with a projectile (usually a tile from another roof). My asphalt shingles, a half of one tore off but no leaks.

The rage now is metal roofs but they are double the cost of shingles.

>>508448919
No need to waste money building things to do more than they are designed to do.
A roof material that will add a total of 10,000kg to the structure means you don't need to build the whole building to support 70,000kg on the top. Even without a safety factor you might not want to build to to accommodate any and everything you could put on a roof.

>>508450621
Metal roof modular, it's what I could get paid off quick.
>most of the actual houses around me have clay tiles tho

>>508450994
To be fair here. You people need to be building in a much more specific way due to your adverse weather issues.
Reinforced concrete ground nipples are your ideal house.

>>508449875
>Reee jews reeeeeree
>Holy fucking shit.
>Is this the only thing you fucking faggots think about?

Lmao, seething kike.

>>508450647
That is some byzantine fucking cope about using inferior shit and paying more for it. The CHEAPEST tiles last a good 50-75 years and good ones are certified up to 200 years.


>>508449789
Yes, it is. Fucking retard. You are living in literal sheds and think its acceptable.

>>508446864
>$20k total
in your country that's like paying $60k for a roof

>>508450761
In Ireland their roof is a 6 inch slab of god knows what. Its like 6 inch terra cotta but it looks like it was made from a mixture of concrete and ground up used road tires. The trim boards look like someone hand made it drunk out of 2x4's on a router, they burn giant diesel parking heater to warm themselves and their appliances look and work like you purchased them from a soviet union second hand sale. Its all very different, but there's perks of being comfy, outside of their living habits.

>>508450521
My old house was 90m2, it wasn't any mcmansion but my uncle + myself picked the roof clean, including the wood beams in 2 days, at a leisurely pace (we unfortunately broke a granite sink with a wood beam)
That's why i say you guys are getting ripped off when everything is expensive but the "kike approved way (tm)"

>>508451006
>DEWD WHY DONT YOU JUST BUILD FUCKING HOVELS ON THE CHEAP?????

I dunno, I just like living in a proper house and a proper society where everything is built to last.

>>508431407 (OP)
Why dont you just use slate?

>>508433630
Architectural metal shingles. They are a metal roof coated with the tar and stone of an asphalt shingle. Supposed to last 100 years + without any issues. I'm planning on doing it for my house sometime in the next 10 years. It's like 3 times the cost of traditional, but once it's done, the company covers it against all damage for 60 years. Including dents or scratches.

>>508431407 (OP)
Find me any roof that lasts the life of a building. That's the fucking point of a modern roof, to bare the brunt of mother nature so the structural supports don't have to.

>>508450966
Is there any reasonable way to do half-and-half?
I've heard solar panels on anything but metal is asking for trouble.

>>508451096
You don’t know what plywood is, do you?

>>508450966
slate roofs are better than that noisy metal roof shit plus they last way longer, can easily find roofs here with slate that just lasted 100 years, Or you can have terrecotta or composite slate.

The english have roofs that are not even boarded they just have slate on batons before this past few decades

>>508435475
Most amish can use electricity, provided they create it themselves. Anything they use needs to have enough providers that none are dependent on anything.

So they can use gas, make generators, use air compressors, etc. They just don't use government things like the electrical grid.

>>508431407 (OP)
Jews

>>508451089
My home is concrete and block with steel rod reinforcement and metal straps to hold the roof on and dual glass hurricane windows and doors. The windows and doors will not punch through from a 2x4 at 150 mph. Wind damage is mitigated but its flooding from a deluge of rain and salt water storm surge that fucks everything up.

>>508437872
This guy fucks

>>508450669
Brick is NOT cheap, its up there one of the most expensive building material there is. You're correct otherwise tho, i would not make my own house from any other material.

>>508451162
It's not a matter of lasting or not, it's a matter of wasteful overbuilding.
Once a roof is able to support the weight of a human walking around on top of it, and the weather protective layer you don't need to build the whole structure to accommodate extra weight that should never be put on top of it.

It would be like saying your 2 story house can't support the weight of 6 more floors built on top. Why don't you build things to last?
~
If you want a longer lasting roof you can have one it just costs a lot more. As I said in my first post, it makes more sense for most people to replace a roof shingle after 35 years than to build with a 200+ year material the first time.
Trying to get a cheaper longer lasting roof by building a structure that's able to support a heavy roofing material likely isn't saving any money.

>>508433456
Remind the the % of people that own homes in your country?

>>508450966
It's alright and undeniably a step up from asphalt but "tin roofs" are very rarely actually made from tin. Lead, aluminum, and even layers of steel that will eventually rust is what you're actually getting. Metal roofing materials are great do last a long time, god send for preservation of old colonial homes, but it's just the cheaper alternative to cooper and still a compromise for price. I say of you're going to pay a premium price for metal roofing you should just go all in and spring for copper at that point. Plus the patena they devlop over time is gorgeous.

>>508451535
Thats called New Order Amish versus Old Order. The mennonites are even cooler. Theres old order mennonites that are basically old order Amish but the new order mennonites just live like Americans that go to mennonite church, but have all the worldly comforts of Americans.

>>508433630
???
no
a house needs constant maintenance
they did so since the advent of time.
Even castles start to slowly disintegrate after a decade or two if you don't constantly do maintenance with skilled masons

>>508451195
Anon, you are falling for an ancient hebraic trick. Any warrenty they give you is just a piece of paper. In 5 years that company will be sold off, bankrupted, and restructured. They might even keep the same name, but will have no legal liability to pay out when their shitty novelty product turns out to be a dud.

>>508440072
Tiles like that have issues in some of the wetter or snow areas. Ice can break them.

>>508451685
I made my roof out of pure gold because it doesnt tarnish and rot like the poors and brokies ITT. Lasts forever.

>>508448441
>Literally the entire world uses terracotta tiles.
we don't
we don’t like terracotta. It’s coarse and rough and ugly… and you see everywhere South of the 49th parallel. not like here. here everything is soft and smooth.

>>508451332
I'm sure you can, but why would you want to mix roof styles?
Aunt and Uncle got solar on their tiled roof a few years ago and had a problem with leaks for a year, but their house has historic French ceramic tiles that it was hard to source replacements for.
In the early days of the colony, ships from Britain would load up with the roof tiles as ballast for the voyage down here because there was a shortage of roofing materials until slate was discovered. For the voyage back they'd load up grain as ballast.
One of our neighbours has modern concrete tiles and had a dirty big solar system installed last year and they haven't had any issues with leaks.

>>508451631
>DEWD STOP HAVING A STRONG AND BEAUTIFUL CIVILIZATION, STOP BUILDING STUFF FOR YOUR GRANDCHILDRED, HOW WILL I GRAB SHEKELS FROM THEM?

Get fucked, kike. I will continue to build houses that will be standing in 2300. Buildings exist for the benefit of the Hungarian people, not for the profit of some jew.

>>508451696
I saw Mennonites (in Puerto Rico I think, was travelling a lot around that time) who used heavy machinery but only if it had wheel but no tyres.
Apparently having no rubber on the wheels was sufficient sacrifice to allow them to use it.
They were in heavy jungle so borderline unlivable without lots of earthmoving.
I realise there's many different sects.

>>508451162
>I just like living in a proper house and a proper society where everything is built to last
in 10 years your wife will steal your house, in 20 years blacks/mexicans/indians will live there

>>508447439
Of course you can. Code is the floor, not the ceiling. You can build to whatever quality standard you can manage.

>>508452126
Same. Thats where I kicked it with BASED mennonites. Jungle mennonites. I try not to speak about them so the jews dont figure out where we hid all the white babies.

>>508452260
>in 10 years your wife will steal your house, in 20 years blacks/mexicans/indians will live there

Sounds like american problems to me.

>>508451256
>Find me any roof that lasts the life of a building. That's the fucking point of a modern roof, to bare the brunt of mother nature so the structural supports don't have to.

build underground like hobbits bro,
thats also how the FEDS wont find you

>>508451180
Slate doesn't do impact well. Tree branches and items blown in high winds, as well as the high winds, can tear them up. You do find them some places though. Catholic church near me is slate. It has to be repaired somewhat frequently, but it looks nice.

>>508452124
Building a house to support more weight than it needs to doesn't make it last longer.

>>508452124
>Buildings exist for the benefit of the Hungarian people
we could live like that, but gisele bundchen wanted to follow her heart instead of just being the wife of the greatest football star

>>508451696
Mennonites have much fewer rules. They even fly planes drive and do rc boats and planes.

>>508433121
Building standards depends on state and municipal government. Some have very strict high standards and others will let you live in a cardboard box.

>>508431407 (OP)

ameripoors and their cardboard caravans, what a fucking laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftnB9XzYfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB-P8HnkvKo

the terrifying bit is the majority of mutt "wealth" is tied up in those chinese shitboxes, financed with 30-year mortgages with sky-high interest rates from kike banks, ground rent paid indefinitely to government via property taxes, and the revenue collected can't even cover basic infrastructure maintenance costs. the suburbs are entirely subsidised by the urban core.

jewsa is a gigantic ponzi scheme.

>>508451465
>The english have roofs that are not even boarded they just have slate on batons before this past few decades
Yeah we don't do the burger style of laying down plywood, it's just battens across the rafters and then lay the tiles or screw down the tin, but these days there's a layer of insulation between the battens and the roof cover, which deadens the rain sound quite a bit compared to the house I grew up in.
>>508451685
"Tin" hasn't been actual tin for well over a century. Tin here just means thin sheet metal (steel). Big brand here is "Colorbond" and we use it for everything: roof, cladding, flashings, gutters, downpipes, fences. It's cold-rolled high-tensile steel sheet with several layers of coatings on it to prevent corrosion. Stuff lasts for decades.

>>508452466
Also Im going to put you to work in a slate mine as a retard peasant in this guys multiverse. Slate roofs exist but it exists as conspicuous consumption over the 3tab and architectural shingles. Theres no way we have enough slate in our mines to support our civilization and theres next to no fucking point.

>>508431407 (OP)

laughs in slate roof, which lasts 200+ years.

bitumen is for brokie faggots. imagine living shitbox built from cardboard and popsicle sticks. ameripoors are a laugh.

imagine thinking picrel is winning. fucking chuds. slave to the bank, car kike, etc., wasting their limited time on this planet commuting whilst destroying their health.

yanks are the thickest cunts in the universe, full stop. the bizarre bit is they keep insisting the rest of us should be more like them.

>>508452793
Here you see it on barns. and no one comes to remove it when it rots big ass holes like an old rusty can. They just abandon the structure. Therefore its inferior labor intensive and cost prohibitive.

>>508452721
>property taxes
My high taxes keeps the undesirables out. I have clean and safe streets and parks galore. However most of my property tax goes to the county schools and I do not have children. This kinda pisses me off. I'm paying some tranny to diddle a child or white woman to groom and fuck a 14 yo black teen

>>508431407 (OP)
>lighter than longer lasting alternative and therefore puts less stain on the structural members
>about a tenth the cost of slate
>less than half the cost of tile and holds up to damp better

You are trading cost and convenience of access for the inconvenience of replacing them in 40 years, and today you just put steel over them which lasts 50 years and its modular. You can disagree with a decision, that doesn't make it irrational.

>>508452950
Just dont show the old growth forests you tore down to fire all of that clay. And what do you do now that all that free wood is gone? Buy some solar panels to fire your clay you gay nigger. From my perspective youre looking just on the edge of fucked.

>>508452480
What the fuck are you even kvetching on about, kike?

>>508453226
WUT WUT? IM A DUMB FUCK THAT CANT INTO WORDS..FUCKING KILL YOURSELF!

>>508451646
>Remind the the % of people that own homes in your country?

you own nothing, faggot. around 65% of houses in muttmerica have mortgages. you rent from the bank. what's worse, residential property doesn't appreciate in jewsa. once you factor in maintenance, repairs, property taxes, and so on, most "owners" are in far worse shape than some rentfag who just invested the difference in spx or the dow.

>>508453440
Thats cope from a nohome. maybe you can ask the socialist labor party to put a roof over your stupid head.

>>508451535
Sounds comfy af desu

>>508452466
>Slate doesn't do impact well. Tree branches and items blown in high winds, as well as the high winds, can tear them up.
The last storm we had here was 85mph for about 14 hours, I lost 3 slates. How often do you find your house getting hit with fucking tree branches?

>>508432465
Washing machines and refrigerators are not part of the building's construction, retard. Roofing tiles, plumbing pipes, doors, windows, etc are.

>>508440941
Northern areas of the US experience both colder winters and hotter summers than Europe and have more annual precipitation, so tiles tend to let in damp, unless you seal them which is even more effort and cost.

>>508451646
Bold words for someone whose country is owned by another, much smaller, country.

>>508451601
Houses are not supposed to be cheap in the first place. This idea of everyone consooming multiple houses in their life is an American degeneracy. A house is supposed to be a home for multiple generations of your family to grow up in.

>>508452793
It's the same here. When i say very rarey I'm refering to surviving historic examples I've seen.

>>508453642
Sometimes. And when a tree limb hits it causes next to no damage. If the aggregate is a little scuffed its piss easy to replace the 6 shingles at $1 per 3 tab shingle. Takes 1 hour and costs $6 along with its relatively retard proof compared to some stone age craft of knapping a slate. You look like a caveman.

>>508453104
Fucking capitalist pigdog!
I hope the city runs a free bus line through your neighborhood!

>>508453440
You're an idiot. Bank doesn't own my home I do. Paid in full. Furthermore in the last 13 years my home has increased in value 3 fold (even considering a cyclical real-estate market that is down at the moment). If you buy in the right place at the right time you win big.

>>508453440
>say something about the US
>don't give any racial context
Look euronigger given that they've imported shitskins to your nation in the last three decades you now know why murricans dismiss any complaints about America without racial context. Niggers were given mortgages they never intended to pay back and were not compelled to do so, it was one of the causes of the 2008 crisis.

>>508453826
Canada wasn't even a country until 1989. You sucked at the Queens teat

>>508433456
>not everyone lives in a tiny stone broomcloset?
>you must be poor

>>508453953
You must literally cross a draw bridge to even get to a free bus line stop

>>508433456
The wall is usually wooden supports faced with drywall or planks faced with drywall if it's older. Doesn't France of shittons of buildings with plank walls faced with stucco or plaster? It's the same principle except one comes out of a bucket an the other in sheets. Euros can bitch about anything, the real question is why they attempt to socially signal on an anonymous image board full of right wing Americans to whom consider the very act of social signaling a waste of time, at least have some spergy interest in the topic.

>>508454495
>The wall is usually wooden supports faced with drywall or planks faced with drywall if it's older.

In other words, not a real house.

>>508433456
We're in the middle of redoing our bathroom that was original to the house, which was built in the 1930s. The motherfucking walls were 1.5 in thick concrete. The floor was 2 inch thick concrete. It's going to be replaced using the modern method of plywood then cement board then membrane then grout then tile. They don't makem like they used to.

>>508431407 (OP)
>not last for the life of the building?

The way you prolong the life of the building is by maintaining the roof.

>>508454556
>real house
Define your term.

>>508453911
shut the fuck up curry nigger, nobody wants to entertain a talking poo.

fucking kill yourself

>>508454585
>look how great my old bathroom is!
>destroys it

>>508431407 (OP)
Because when (not if) your roof gets damaged by the weather, you pay some guys a day's wage to go up on your roof and put down new shingles instead of having to have the entire roof ripped off and replaced in an extensive months long renovation.

>>508431407 (OP)
buy better materials next time, cheap mother fucker

>>508454585
Pay special attention to getting the Redgard portion of that right. As long as you understand how to build that to spec, its water proof and bulletproof and you can build your whole shower stall out of it. Or get gay and get ripped off by some "schluter system" if you have the money and the time. IDGAF, but a "system" really isnt bringing anything to the table besides retard proofing for the uninitiated.

>>508451135
>t. never stepped foot in Ireland in his life

I just wonder why they can't put a pointy roof on skyscrapers and apartment complexes to deal with the heat problem

>>508455253
Not into your gov. subsidized housing block in Dublin I did not. I realized you niggers live worlds away from each other down the block. Its kind of weird.

>>508454715
Are you really this retarded? Houses are not made out of plywood.

>>508431407 (OP)
I have some of those asphalt shingles on my roof. been here for 15 years, and this place was at last that old when I moved in. they're still fine. however I have had to replace wood and other rotting things so far

ven if these things do break down, they don't seem as bad as everything else modern homes are built with. these will probably be fine after your plywood home rotts away. not sure if it has to do with climate, but I live in the Midwest and get winters with snow and ice and maybe a week or two of -10. and then summers that can get up to 105 for a week or two.

>>508431519


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Caveat emptor is a Latin phrase that translates to "let the buyer beware." It means that buyers purchase at their own risk, and they should do their research and ask questions of the seller. The seller is not responsible for problems encountered with the product after the sale.

>>508453567
>Thats cope from a nohome. maybe you can ask the socialist labor party to put a roof over your stupid head.

it's statistical reality, you insufferable mutt.

t. heir of commercial property investors since 1937 in jewsa.

>>508454007

cool story faggot. on overage, the real return on residential housing is a third of a percent per annum. that's it. prices are merely a function of interest rates, unemployment, and inflation. there is no real return.

factor in round-trip transaction costs, capex, etc., and the situation's even more dire.

>>508433323
>castle stones are difficult to come by
Whole mountain ranges exclusive to your country and you can't find a fucking rock

>>508449358
>very expensive to repair
That's the thing with the fiberglass/asphalt shingles. They are very low maintenance. You don't have to fuck with them ever. If you are unlucky, once in your lifetime a strong enough wind will come along and blow over some trees, take off some of your siding, and take off some of your shingles. If that happens, you can just replace the missing shingles. But that almost never happens, and you won't have to touch your roof until it's time for new shingles, which could be after 30 years, but it'll probably be after 40 or 50 years. Shingles are set it and forget it.

>>508455721
Ok its statistical reality that most Americans are stupid. A house is like a boat. Youre supposed to realize how to repair and maintain it yourself, like your car. Otherwise Americans are lined up to take you for a ride on a $200 oil change. As an American it was your duty to be built better than that.

>>508455852
No we dont enslave 80% of our population to work the medieval stone mines you weird nigger. Youre standing on shoulders of giants.

>>508456030
>Youre supposed to realize how to repair and maintain it yourself, like your car.

poorfag detected.

>>508454782
>seething chinksect

>>508456192
Thats the exact mentality thats going to lead your trust fundy baby into poorfagging and you will have no clue how to live like that. Enjoy your free ride.

>>508455848
Not a story. I had over half down and borrowed from a bank half but tripled up on payments and paid it off in 6 years.
I live in a spot near a beach and bought at the market bottom purposefully. Now people will pay 800k - 1MM and tear it down to build big on the lot.

>>508456192
>I dont change the battery in my smoke alarms. In fact I would have no clue how..BEEP!!

Im sure that gets some fake titty bitches panties REAL wet....fag

>>508455440
If its just some exterior trim or something that's one thing but if it's anything interior if have rot you have moisture and if you have moisture ingressing something is not in fact fine. Where were you pulling out rot? Window sills?

>>508455416
I'm going to point out that for a certain thickness and weight plywood is actually stronger than hardwood, for a certain thickness and weight wood is stronger than concrete and actually has tensile strength, I could go on but you get the picture. Do you want brick with mild-steel structural members, if so buy any pre-1930 building in a small Pennsylvanian town. Do you want full timber structural members like a barn? Do you want modern steel I beams with steel siding and roof, those are actually cheap to make and completely modular as well as more resistant than brick or timber. The US also has more tornadoes and wind storms(25mph+ gusts) than the rest of the world combined, there is a reason why nobody here is emotionally attached to buildings, and it ain't kikes.

>>508451180
There are a lot of alte roof houses around here. They are usually older houses that have had them for 100 years. Some have really cool designs. We have a lot of those old "Victorian" houses plus some thick brick houses from around that time up until the 1920s.

>>508451601
Thats not brick. Its concrete made to look like brick called a "klinker" wall

>>508456526
>>508456290

go away. you poorfags disgust me.

>>508431407 (OP)
>Why arent my roofing materials, that are exposed to the elements 24/7 immune from entropy?

>>508456425
>Not a story. I had over half down and borrowed from a bank half but tripled up on payments and paid it off in 6 years.
>I live in a spot near a beach and bought at the market bottom purposefully. Now people will pay 800k - 1MM and tear it down to build big on the lot.

wowzers, one million jewbux? you're super clever, that's practically all the money in the universe, not a parking space in central london.

can i suck your pee pee?

>>508431407 (OP)
It's a good material for goypig plywood 1,5M$ hovels, stop complaining.

>>508456779
You a gay boy that loves the attention

>>508454962
It was deteriorating. The tiles had cracks all over the place. The tub, although it was cool heavy cast iron, was worn out and gross. It was not great and needed to be replaced.
>>508455120
I'm not doing it myself. We had to do a full gut job and move the plumbing and electrical. No way I'm doing that myself.

>>508456925
I don't live anywhere near a Pakistani or Muslim anything.

My guess you don't own anything and on the dole

>>508431407 (OP)
Why not just use tiles like everyone else?

>>508456925
>not a parking space in central london
Self own. You would not last 2 minutes in my world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D235JQtx_7Y

>>508455120
>"schluter system"
Yeah, unfortunately that's the only thing builder know these days. I asked for bullnose tiles and things like that, but then quickly learned that those aren't even made anymore unless you can find someone who can do a custom job, but that would be too expensive.

>>508457160
>I'm not doing it myself. We had to do a full gut job and move the plumbing and electrical.

...pussy...Enjoy your shit work no one cares about.

>>508456928
How does it handle heavy hail after sitting outside of a few decades?
Asphalt has enough flex and is supported by a wood backing that that it doesn't get damaged by hail. Large areas of North America will get dangerous level of hail about once a decade.

>>508457245
>>508457223

>>508450913
Probably a good idea at least for the arsenic stuff, they had to get rid of the arsenic stuff here because everybody kept burning it and releasing it

>>508431407 (OP)
I had three different roofing companies work on my roof.

First, it was a company from Ecuador, recommended by a friend.
Second, a group of Mexicans and Guatemalans from Inca Roofing or something like that.
Third, a mostly white company with mostly white men and four owners—three white, one Latino, and one white kid who I guess is the owner's son.

They all did a bad job, and the roof still leaks. but the worse thing was the white company who i thought for sure would fix it this time was x4 the cost.

in the end i had to replace the 1/5 of the roof with new wood

>>508457293
>Yeah, unfortunately that's the only thing builder know these days.

>Schluter is retard proof.

>>508457470
I had a similar experience. The problem was the first crew of illegals fucked up the job so much that nobody knew what to do. They had covered their problem. It was actually a little irish dude drug addict that this huge intrastate business sent to my house that finally discovered the problem. Then it was all apologies and the lead engineer and owner apologizing, wondering why the guy from Chile they'd been training for 10 years was still fucking up entire jobs

>>508457160
Bro, maybe you should have started out your first post, instead of "were going to do this" with, instead, "im planning to hire mexicans from home depot". "WE'RE?" like your forming a team?

>>508433630
Fabricated metal can. Nothing with shingles will.

>>508434798
The probability that you never have any damaged slate tiles that should be replaced is virtually zero. Nothing with tiles or shingles will realistically last 100 years. Only fabricated metal will.

>>508457864
No, asshole, I didn't hire Mexicans from Home Depot. I hired a contractor, paid him a shitload of money, and he hired Salvadorans from Home Depot.

>>508457780
>a little irish dude drug addict
Tears of pride reading this ngl.

>>508435317
It's because that's shitty exposed fasteners R-panel. Spoiler alert, the EPDM grommets on those screws have the same life span as asphalt shingles, and you can only screw the panel approximately twice to replace worn grommets. The only metal roof worth a fuck is mechanical or snap lock standing seam.
>>508438822
These rubber shingles are cool, but they have the same problem that all EPDM has. The chemicals that polymerize the monomer chains evaporate over time and they will 100% shrink and crack. All you retards that think every house can have tile are dead wrong because your truss system has to have the correct width and spans to accommodate the dead load of the tiles and potential snow loads? Do any of you fags into ICC?
>t. commercial roofing contractor

>>508457991
That shit was funny and made me giggle.

>>508441773
Decra is junk. Rocks glued to metal panels. One decent hail storm and your roof will look like shit forever.

>>508447249
Damn that's probably at least 5-6 million , the housing market is so fucked there

>>508458062
>>t. commercial roofing contractor

tpo or pvc? 175k sqft, south florida.

>>508431519
Gayest pilpul yet. No roof lasts as long as the building. 100s of years? Lmfao. Much better to have an easy to remove and replace one that lasts 30 to 50 like in the US you sorry foreign niggers.

>>508455253
The EU memeflag is a smelly disgusting 0 IQ pajeet.

>>508432913
Truke

>>508457082
>You a gay boy that loves the attention

>>508438105
Go back to Iran then tranny

>>508438105
That thin ass metal rusts up in a couple years. They use that in Africa on huts lmfao

>>508450262
Try walking out moving around on there if something needs done on the roof, shingles are the best because you can grip them and tiles break and metal is slick

>>508435520
holy shit, i never saw that part of the whole Ford/Kavanaugh shit show. Her husband recalls she named Kavanaugh? So she didn't even recall that she named him? Was this a trance session?

Also, I'm gonna assume she mean two front doors as in double doors like some of those really big houses have and not two completely separate doors but with that crazy bitch, who knows.

>>508457780
You didnt detail the problem found so. starter strip not staggered from the leading rows seem. brads not placed in the nail zone of the shingle. brads over penetrated and under penetrated. Giant fucking framing brads just shot through the shingle at 5PSI for whatever fucking reason. Not properly engineered for a slope that crashes into a wall. When it was not engineered correctly the roofers did not properly flash it to mitigate this..Almost all these problems could have been hidden by a $130 roll of ice and water shield they couldnt be fucked with...So you bet your ass I just climbed up there alone and reroofed it myself. No idiot shall be trusted.

>>508431407 (OP)
so the runoff from asphalt roofs can carry pollutants like heavy metals and chemicals into water sources. who wouldn't want extra flavor to his water?

>>508451182
>stone
>slate
pick one

we're americans. everything we do and make is absolutely fucked and a complete rip off meant to steal money from you while lying to you.

what do you expect from a colony slave state of israel? we aren't people, dude. we are cattle robot goyim.

>>508459036
Don’t you think the grass would be dead at the downspout if that was the case?

we like loud noises and chaos. we like litter on the side of the road. we love subdivisions and fast food, and trucks that fall apart as you drive them off the lot. our entire economy is based around constantly purchasing trash that falls apart before you even open it.

>>508459036
>Some of these components, particularly the mineral granules, can contain trace metals.

>>508458491
Quintessentially mutt cope.

>>508458318
Both. We are Carlisle Syntec certified. I'll give you a 20 year NDL

>>508458902
a tornado will send wood through cement as if it was paper
bricks turn into cannonballs when a f5 tornado gets a hold of them
t. lived through the 1999 bridge creek-moore tornado system

>>508460066
>NDL
>Carlisle syntec certified

These are words designed to confuse you and sound important. This nigger has probably never climbed a ladder in his life.

>>508459398
>>508459494
>America is this and that
Quit lying you're a broke foreign nigger too scared to use your own ip