like they just want to punish people for being wealthy. and there won't be any improvement in roads, schools or homelessness based on taxing a few billionaires. also, these people think musk and bezos are like swimming in cash. they're not. it's all locked up in stocks and shit. tax unrealized gains? the left was even making fun of musk because he couldn't come up with the 40B to buy twitter right away. i don't think it was even all his own money.

Tax free up to $1 million yearly income then progressively increase up to 100% at $1 billion.
Billionaires are parasites.

Don't you see now what with the USAID money?

They take your taxes and pay themselves with it. Then they do side hustles with that money too. And they give part of the money to the DNC and local Democrats.

Their entire way of life depends on them getting more of your money, so you get less. It's how they live.

>>508443383
Yes, 100% tax will surely motivate them. How could it not?

>>508443383
so are government bureaucrats. the problem is that money will end up with one or the other

>>508443459
>my favourite multibillionaire needs more billions to get motivated
do bootlickers really

>>508443427
>you
you mean billionaires. i doubt any billionaires post here

>>508443186 (OP)
>Make the billionaires pay more taxes
>Instead of taking pay cuts, they increase the price of stuff
>People pay for billionaires taxes indirectly
Many such cases

>>508443186 (OP)
They haven’t achived the level of class consciousness to realize that money doesn’t matter and taxing in meaningless when the government can print infinity money.

Tax rates are a boondoggle, just nationalize their capital (as in physical capital, not money)

i dont understand people who'd rather buy expensive trash rather than helping someone in need. had so many friends in school and bros come before consumer trash.

>>508443186 (OP)
Tarrifs are a tax.

Why are Conservatives pro-tax for the working man but not for billionaires?

>>508443505
The past 20 years have been proof that trickle down economics don't work. I'd rather have parasites like Thiel get taxed at 100% and have half of it lost in bureaucracy than let him keep it to promote his AI surveillance dystopia, at least some of it will actually trickle down to the people this way.

>>508443383
Not realistic. Maybe make it 50-100 billion.

>>508443383
>Tax free up to $1 million yearly income then progressively increase up to 100% at $1 billion.
>Billionaires are parasites.
nobody makes $1B/year. it's all on paper. fucking if your house suddenly becomes worth 1B and you work at a grocery store, do you now get taxed to shit?

>>508443651
>people increase the price of keeping their head on their shoulders
i fail to see the problem

>>508443186 (OP)
Its a distraction from the problem with government spending, which is the leftists true passion.

>>508443459
The world doesn't need the motivation of greed.
>wowie I want my bank account to have 13 digits, time to engage in anti-consumerism, class warfare and political sabotage

The more money the government is able to tax, the more they can steal from. USAID proved it.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/usaid-official-and-three-corporate-executives-plead-guilty-decade-long-bribery-scheme?fbclid=IwY2xjawLGC3RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFQbTlwekpnZnJBRFJ5OEllAR4Oz1NxAgSqkDCe2KeH2fHGAFcjrXH6P3UbG8QwTAcjzAzwlFJzYE5LfQQBGg_aem_X7rzF8lMzk7AquzcqPQiBg

>>508443186 (OP)
>You can
Sure
But what's the justification?
The government could storm his house, arrest him, and steal every penny.
But what's the justification?
>I want it
That's all

>>508443186 (OP)
it's their way of trying to reduce the deficit

>>508443186 (OP)
How does your life improve when the libs are owned?

Now you understand.

>>508443186 (OP)
>like they just want to punish people for being wealthy.
Yes.
We're coming for you, porkies.

>>508443383
>being this retarded
>european talking about tax
yep, checks out
Warren Buffet is the one of the richest men on Earth and his salary is $100k dumbass

>>508443186 (OP)
the left idolise the megarich so long as they bring attention to the right causes like climate change, open borders, "democracy", anti racism, anti whiteness.

Be rich and not fall in line then you're some evil scrooge mcduck figure who deserves to have all their wealth stripped away

>this billionaire doesn't agree children should get sex changes
>publish his taxes so we can see what a crook he is

>>508443186 (OP)
>obsessed with making people
billionaires aren't people. they're parasites

bureaucrats have much more direct control over you and much less accountability to reality. let money flow to people who create value

>>508443186 (OP)
>social security is bankrupt
>rich can receive social security but don’t need it
>social security tax caps at around 180k

Governments have no answer for rich faggots.

Only nature does.

>>508444119
>thirdie reading comprehension
I said income, not salary
Of course he's pulling jewish tricks to avoid taxes

>>508443756
>Tarrifs are a tax.
>Why are Conservatives pro-tax for the working man but not for billionaires?
i used to work for US customs as an auditor. we had a two month training course. literally on day one they told us that the US government used to be entirely funded by tariffs and citizens paid no income taxes. my understanding is that trump wants to return to the old way. it's easier and makes more sense.

>>508443186 (OP)
because jews like bezos keep stealing money from public funds and then avoiding paying their share

>>508443383
>has no understanding of economics
>catalan flag
checks out

>>508444198

>>508443186 (OP)
libshits are losers. and not just regular losers, but losers who have decided they don't even want to be anything but losers.
most losers hope that they can eventually turn things around and improve life for themselves, so they don't want unnecessary hurdles put in their way on the path to fixing whatever they dislike about their life right now.
libshits want as many hurdles as possible, because they have no desire to fix anything anyway, they just want to ensure that no one else can ever escape the crab bucket.

People in general like to make other people pay (or work) more. It's easy for the poor to agree that the rich needs to pay more. Everything in public discourse is frame as "us" vs "them".

>>508444119
They need to pay market value tax just like property tax here in USA. Everyone pays market value net worth tax. Time for oligarchs to pony up. Yellen was right. Mark to market net worth tax of >20 million. Also oligarchs have to pay social security tax. Remove social security tax limit.

You could steal every last cent from the rich and it would fund the federal government for like two days. People need to get real. This country is doomed unless we gut entitlement spending and that'll never happen under a democratic system.

>>508443186 (OP)
when they give the rich tax cuts they make up for the revenue by raising taxes on (you)

>>508444668
what good would the government having more money do? it just means more going into the garbage bin

>>508443186 (OP)
Who cares? Yeah higher taxes are retarded and will just be squandered by our corrupt government, but why are you crying about it? That's Bezos' problem. If the billionaires really cared about this they'd just buy off some politicians, or at least pay for some online shillbots to defend their interest. Not only are you crying about Bezos' bank account, but you're doing it for free.

>>508444367
Yeah lol if you want to turn back the clock to everyone being farmers with log houses I guess.

>>508443459
People should be actively de-motivated from owning one billion in assets, to the point of execution.

>>508444320
>I said income, not salary
income and salary are the same thing. the difference is that these guys are billionaires on paper. they own stock in the companies they built. lefties basically want to tax unrealized gains. if you owned a stock that went to the moon should the government step in and tax you? no because the stock could go to zero the next day.

>>508444903
>think of the people who invest in speculative bubbles!
government policy should encourage investment in stocks that *won't* go to zero the next day

>>508444225
These people create "value" on the stock market, which is a fake economy.

>>508444903
>le cryptocoin pump&dump economy

A person who takes so much from people and the land resources should give something back, common decency

>>508444841
>Yeah lol if you want to turn back the clock to everyone being farmers with log houses I guess.
has the government improved your life to justify the taxes you pay?

>>508443186 (OP)
Bezos could pay 100% income tax and still pay less than the normies.

>>508444320
>Of course he's pulling jewish tricks to avoid taxes
Very antisemitic of you anon

>>508443186 (OP)
Don't care, fuck the rich

>>508443186 (OP)
They believe throwing more money at social issues will solve them. Then theres the issue of thr money being nanaged by incompetent people

>>508443186 (OP)
They are right though, they just execute it terribly
"Capped" capitalism is a concept we should have integrated a century ago

>>508445068
Certainly more so than the opposite.

>>508443186 (OP)
that banner is like 80 feet x 80 feet.
I wonder how much a banner like that cost? How much food could that banner pay for?
>these people think musk and bezos are like swimming in cash
this, leftists don't understand how the economy works. "Just tax their net worth!" they don't even know what net worth is, let alone the fact that it's not an actual exact number (any billionaire's net worth is a rough estimate at best)
or "Elon Musk made so much money last year because his net worth went up" and "tax their unrealized gains"

>>508445043
>>le cryptocoin pump&dump economy
funny you mention that because i sold all my btc and eth a few days ago. it has been too many years and it hasn't been adopted as an actual currency. shit is fucking pointless. i still can't go to 7-11 and buy a soda with btc. given the volatility of crypto, why would any business owner even accept it? like you sold a coke for btc and realize you lost money on it ten minutes later? totally flawed.

>>508445327
>Certainly more so than the opposite.
very rich considering your flag.

>>508443459
>motivate them
good. at least more people will get chance to build their businesses

>>508443186 (OP)
It's a disease of the soul. Leftists hide their resentment and personal failure behind some moralistic concept of fairness. Inequality is a grueling metric to these "people", because it clearly distinguishes between a winner and loser. It's a reminder to them. This is why they have to attack the very concept of profit as unfair/evil/exploitative/parasitic/rent-seeking/inhuman/fascistic or whatever else. Leftists don't strive for betterment on a personal level (they are consumerist/poor/unemployed/addicts) so if you give them any political power, they will only use it to destroy you. Leftists are literally subhuman scum that should be eradicated.
>ignore all memeflags in this thread
ignore all memeflags in this thread
>ignore all memeflags in this thread
ignore all memeflags in this thread
>>508445184
>alright goy you've reached your life-cap no more money OKAY?
>goy, we said we take over from here
>goy what are you doing? did you just make a new thing?
>why can't goy just enjoy their UBI and capped wealth?
>we will have to arrest you now
For me to have enough, I just want one more dollar.

>>508443459
Oh nooooo Bill Gates might not be motivated to buy up all the farm land and Elon Musk might not be motivated to import infinity indians

>>508443383
nigger you have zero idea what counts as income. no one makes $1b a year not bezos not musk not anybody. you're a fucking idiot masquerading as knowledgable because you're piecing together buzzwords you've heard other idiots say. kindly fuck off to another section of our society to complain about other than taxes and economics.

>>508443733
Let's transfer capital from the most competent to the least competent. Surely this has never had negative repercussions in the past.

>>508443186 (OP)
Your left isn't even a true left.
Not to mention most of this slop you spewed across your keyboard is speculation.

TheE eCoNoMy Is FiNe

>>508445611
Your left is this left 10 years ago. Give it some time and you will be complaining about trans rights soon enough.

>>508445748
right, meanwhile conservatives in 2025 are conserving traditional values like racemixing with jeets, aiming for the normal gay vote and unconditional unlimited support for Israel

>>508445589
you clearly don't understand the difference between realized gains and unrealized gains. these guys aren't making 1B per year. they have stocks and they will be taxed when they sell.

the main crafty move was peter thiel. he put his paypal stock into an IRA when paypal was worth nothing, so he paid his taxes upfront. that means he can take his billions out tax free.

>>508445577
>t. Mészáros Lőrinc

>>508445925
you are posting a twitter account of a non white person, so it doesnt matter the content you are doing the same thing that you are complaining about, infecting the right wing with non whites

>>508443459
Greed as a motivator needs to be capped. If they really are doing things to better humanity, as they often like to pat themselves on the back, then they would be motivated to continue their work.

>>508446502
>complaining
I'm not complaining, I'm making fun of you because the conservative party you love so much only conserves the interests of Israel and nothing else

>>508445925
>deflects
Nigger.
>>508446334
Capitalism is when I'm upgraded from childhood friends with the prime minister to best buddy in corruption. Hungary never completed the system change. Otherwise, we'd be like Estonia.

>>508443186 (OP)
>also, these people think musk and bezos are like swimming in cash. they're not. it's all locked up in stocks and shit. tax unrealized gains?

This used to be the case, but not anymore. When billionaires need money, they borrow it, and use their assets as collateral to get very low interest rates on the loans. It's much cheaper to borrow money than to realize a gain and pay the taxes.

My solution is to eliminate taxation and allow interest rates to rise to a more reasonable level, like 8-10%

>>508443186 (OP)
Bezos gets paid in the stock of his company,
Bezos goes to the bank,
The bank gives him a big fat stack of money (because he is bezos first), and because he has put as collateral for the loan the stocks of the company he got paid with.
Now, bezos and bank are on the same boat. If the stock matures, both bezos and the bank are happy. it just needs that red line to keep going up

So you want to tax bezos, but bezos has 10 million dollaridos of debt with a bank,
what the fuck are you going to tax?

The system is riddled with loopholes, and you only begin to get access to them if you begin to make a certain amount of money or get to have a certain amount of influence.
The only thing to be done to change the situation for real is to rip the system
, but the same system that allows the bezos to stay up is the same system the plebians have put their money into too.
Therefore, you cannot break the system without causing chaos and pain for everybody.
Glohobomo banks on the fact that people will choose the predictability of servitude over the possibilities of thought the chaos.
And the were correct, up to a point, things will keep staying this way until they will be not.

leftists don't care about making the rich pay, they care to show they care about wanting to make the rich pay, is a performance, their master knows way too well, and allows them to do so. Once the performance ends they return to their allocated cog-human-slot and do what corpo manipulates them into doing.

>>508443186 (OP)
picrel, liberals are dumb and think the government having more money is the answer to income inequality. the answer to income inequality is having economic protections for your workers and strong unions so even if you have rich people their employees can afford their own homes, provide for their families, and have a stay at home wife.

That print must have cost a fortune. I wonder who paid for it.

>>508444590
Yep. Theyre evil people

he would love to pay more taxes but y'all won't take his money

>>508448212
KEK
Leftists will never comprehend picrel.

>>508447714
income taxes just need to be abolished in general. it just opens the way to abuse for both the top and the bottom, with everyone in the middle getting fucked.
the state needs to slash it's fucking funding and make to with sales taxes. basically all Western nations have more tax revenue than ever before, yet they have also never had as high deficits as they do nowadays.
adding another tax wouldn't change shit because these parasitic creatures would just instantly waste it on another ideological money sink.

>>508444786
>the government will just waste it
Like everything its because the hordes allow it. Stupid shit happens the the politicians haven't vanished down a mine shaft? Very odd.

>>508443186 (OP)
They honestly believe "the rich" are targeted by taxes and that by willingly increasing taxes they punish people in better soocial and financial positions then themselves. They do not understand nor comprehend that the rich evade taxes by simply having a good lawyer on the payroll who abuses the shit out of loopholes. They got rich because they made the system they rely on to try and punish them.

>>508443186 (OP)
>left so obsessed with making people pay more taxes?

Because certain types want to pull up "the stairs" behind them , they have found a niche of "soft money" that they can play a game with the tax man of moving between "Foundations" real estate and off shore accounts while YOU will have to be exposed to the tax man.

>>It's the classic liberal I got mine , fuck you .

>>508449030
Hungary has 0 income tax bellow 24 and most of our revenue comes from VAT. The economy is still royally fucked. You need to cut spending (like social welfare programs).

>>508443186 (OP)
bezos has billions in cash on hand. he has hundred of billions in amazon stock but he sells it often to cash out so he can buy stuff.

>>508443733
>the government can print infinity money.
it can, but why does it borrow instead? they borrow and then service the debt, forever.

what is the argument for borrow v print?

>>508443383
Do you tax income or potential gains?

>>508445601
It doesn’t matter
Capitalism is great at optimization, but it will optimize itself and all of us into obsolescence.

Overall the benefit to the population would increase even at the cost of some efficiency lost in the short term.

>>508443643
Elon shitposts here all the time

>>508443769
>fucking if your house suddenly becomes worth 1B and you work at a grocery store, do you now get taxed to shit?
they proposed that in the UK a decade ago. so old ladies who had lived in a house in london for 60 years and now the house was worth £2million would have to find 3% of the house value every year. it didn't go very far.

>>508444367
>get rid of income tax
Lol. LMAO even. There is nothing more permanent than a temporary tax

>>508447240
are you suggesting that taxes should be paid on debt? like should student loans be taxed? mortgages?

>>508449619
>You need to cut spending (like social welfare programs).
Yeah, that's what I meant to say, just with some typos.
Social welfare (in the form we have them nowadays) systems are basically guaranteed to fuck up your economy because they reward leeching and punish contributing.

>>508443186 (OP)
the richest people in the world arn;t innovators,
they dont do things that are a net positive to society, they are for the most part sociopathic parasites.

>>508443186 (OP)
The problem is that nobody in America trusts the US government to be good stewards of our tax money.
Therefore, it doesn't matter how much we tax, because the government's just going to fucking spend it on bullshit, grift, and kickback projects for themselves.

Make it a LAW that everything the federal government funds has to have an expected positive ROI, and that we can only implement programs besides ones designed to help the American people directly, if we plan to benefit financially from them.

>>508450046
I am suggesting we eliminate taxes, like capital gains taxes, so realizing capital gains does not trigger a taxable event.
If we eliminate taxes, then interest rates will probably rise because economic growth will rise.

>>508449526
nobody gets rich by avoiding taxes.
>I AVOIDED TAXES TO THE TOP!!!
ok then you do it, moron

>>508450110
the rich people simply represent capitalists, they have capital to invest, good for bad.
capital can spurn innovation, increases in productivity, jobs, and many other positive things.

>>508449665
>bezos has billions in cash on hand.
absolutely not. there's not a financial advisor on the planet that would allow you to hold billions in cash.

>>508443186 (OP)
You actually did not come up with one line of that thought process on your own, did you zoomie?

i dont understand this, they all pay taxes like everyone elso does. maybe they should boycott amazon? how many of these niggers have a prime account? their parents and friends? how many of them order stuff online? like lets take greta for example, talking all climate crap, but she rode to yidsrael on a modern boat right? using oil and fuels and machines? then a plane got chartered for their return? good job little hypocries!

>>508443186 (OP)
Based. Fuck Jeffrie Beezos

>>508443651
We should just have all assholes and people who act like jews put to death then. Problem solved. Everybody happy.

>>508449889
>it didn't go very far.
good. we have property taxes in the US and you could theoretically pay the government the entire value of your property by the end of your life. so you save money to buy a house. live the american dream. then you're basically renting your house and cars from the government.

>>508443186 (OP)
lmao Let me guess, you think simping for them means they might hear about this and pay you in exchange for your good will.

>>508443186 (OP)
Most conservatives in the west consider the 1950s to be a golden age when ordinary people could afford to own homes and raise families on a single income.

The top marginal tax rate in the 1950s in the US and UK was 90%. Not taxing the wealthy isn’t conservatism, it’s neoliberalism.

>>508444225
You mean the workers?

>>508443186 (OP)
>like they just want to punish people for being wealthy.
Yes.
Problem?

>>508450563
>then a plane got chartered for their return?
You mean the one she didn't ask for, and was forced to take home? Hitler was right about one thing: Germans fall for propaganda very, very easily.

>>508450295

Taxes is all about taking money not about maintaining anything.

If it was on the up and up the books would be opened then people could pay their 'fair share'.

Anon example:

>A country has 1 million adults
>The roads cost $1m a year to maintain
>Each adult pays $1 for road maintenance a year

>>508451137
>The top marginal tax rate in the 1950s in the US and UK was 90%
Nobody paid the nominal rate in the US. There were a lot of exemptions and tax shelter strategies so the effective tax rate that was paid was closer to 35%

>>508451137
>The top marginal tax rate in the 1950s in the US and UK was 90%.
With massive tax loopholes plus Asia and Europe destroyed. No one who could afford an accountant paid 90%.

>>508451293
>Yes.
>Problem?
i would consider doctors to be wealthy. should we punish them?

>>508443459
Oh no mega corporations will go bankrupt and we'll have to go back to having local shops for provide us our goods and services boo fucking hoo I'm crying a river for them over here

We as a society should incentivize small business and punish big business I don't give a fuck if that means we don't get to go to Mars or have some chink ship knockoff Gucci bags to Miami

>>508443186 (OP)
Tenth Commandment.
It's the final obstacle to total domination by the Dragon.
Peolle don't understand that Communism is fundamentally an attack against God, above all else.

>>508443769
Local property taxes already work this way.

>>508451514
>>508451550
How sure are you about this? What loopholes & shrltersnexisted back in the '50s?

NOOOOOO! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO TRICKLE DOWN!!!

>>508443186 (OP)
>they just want to punish people for being wealthy.
Do you not? You know all rich people are anti white and socially liberal

>>508444082
>a literal Swiss flag being covetous
Irony overload.

>>508443186 (OP)
crabs in the bucket mentality

that being said jeff pesos is a fucking pest and should fuck off where he come from and marry this old ugly man in his hometown

>>508443383
>Billionaires are parasites
antifa faggot poor detected

>>508445065
>>508445065
not to mention, they are using services of the government to get to where they are so they should be giving back. same with women, they take out three times more from the coffers than men so I want 3x more back from them.

>>508452059
>Do you not? You know all rich people are anti white and socially liberal
no we are not... hard core red, want all lefties dead

>>508444367
Tariffs are by far the best tax a sovereignty can ever implement. A state that levies any other tax should be invaded by a King and be welcomed as a liberator.

>>508451821
>Local property taxes already work this way.
my point was that this is a bs system. i bought a farm and there's no way i can just live off the land without having the government intervening. property taxes are bs.

>>508443186 (OP)
Power fantasy

>>508443186 (OP)
The left is all niggers, browns, women and poor.
All of the above groups getting free gibs.
We are paying free gibs from our taxes.

>>508452356
You aren't actually rich then

>>508451663
Doctors provide a useful service by their own labors.
Billionaries dont.

>>508452478
The commons has to be funded in some way. A homestead or subsistence farm might be able to get by without any common infrastructure, but a big commercial farm cannot.

>>508443383
Idiot in a modern world you cannot tax millionaires or billionaires 100%. Or even 50% . They will immediately move to another state or another country (its EASY to move to even another country).
Even Elon Musk said fck it to California when his taxes exceeded 50% and moved his Tesla factories to Texas.

>>508443459
>Yes, 100% tax will surely motivate them. How could it not?
Hes a clueless idiot. Reason why we should not have a so called "Democracy" , voting of the idiots.

>>508445925
>>508445925
the progressives can't say what they progress towards, the conservatives pick an arbitrary point in time. Traditionalism is the only way

forgot pic

>>508443186 (OP)
In modern economies, taxes don’t finance the government. They use debt to pay for their expenses, and tax income is only used to partially fulfill debt demands (debt can be reissued to amortize previous debt). This logic only works in county and state-level, and even then the federal government often intervenes.
The role of taxation is to reduce the growth of the monetary aggregate, same as interest rates. The difference is that these two tools depress the economy in different ways and taxes can be much more specific than interest.

>>508452532
Behold the magical land where voting rights are distributed based on how many zeroes dance on your paycheck because clearly, democracy should work like a country club membership. This Frankenstein’s monster of a chart attempts to slap together cherry-picked tax stats, income brackets, and vote shares to paint a picture where the rich, noble Trump-voters heroically carry the entire nation on their diamond-encrusted backs while the dastardly poor (who, shocker, also vote) presumably roll around in government cheese and entitlement. The pièce de résistance? That awkward bar graph implying that economic "output" should determine electoral power because nothing screams "constitutional genius" like replacing “one person, one vote” with “one dollar, one vote.” If this info-graphic had a soundtrack, it’d be a violin solo played on a golden fiddle by Ayn Rand’s ghost.

>>508452580
>Doctors provide a useful service by their own labors.
>Billionaries dont.
star link, electric cars, space travel, ordering shit online that arrives on your door the next day? not a useful service?

>>508443763
The idea is good and makes sense though. Like you said, it just needs the numbers tweaked.
There's another very important problem though. All governments are corrupt as hell. A lot of this money will end in corrupt politicians pockets (in my country) or funding wars in middle east (USA).
The people will not fairly benefit from higher taxes, it's likely that the cost of living would increase instead.
But on the other hand, it would be so much money people's quality of life would definitely improve. Specially with full and effective public health care.

>>508452901
>Brit being a mega cuck
Imagine my shock.
There absolutely should be a limited franchise based on property ownership.

They don't give two shits about a budget, it's about revenge.

>>508452901
>Behold the magical land where voting rights are distributed based on how many zeroes dance on your account
That's actually London, Kings own everything, including Billions, and you cannot even vote them out, as they rule UK for 200 years.

In US people who pay ALL the taxes - white professionals - got tired of paying all the gibs to niggers and browns. And we all voted for Trump , twice.
>because Tax Burden is UNBEARABLE and people are going mass bankrupt.

>>508443186 (OP)
Higher taxes mean more money for Zionist objectives, so no, as a burger I do not advocate for higher taxes.

>>508452748
>The commons has to be funded in some way. A homestead or subsistence farm might be able to get by without any common infrastructure, but a big commercial farm cannot.
i have 200 acres and i grow most of my own veggies. i could raise cows and chickens and be totally self-sufficient, but i would still have to pay property taxes on my land and cars. it's fucking nonsense.

>>508453148
>And we all voted for Trump , twice.
Technically 6 times already.

>>508452908
Musk made all those things himself did he? Bezos came up with the entire idea of delivering shit quickly all on his lonesome? They are entirely responsible for the work being done? You could have the same result with those two just being fairly highly paid CEO's of a company without them both being richer than Croesus.

>>508443383
Cut spending first

Imagine sucking up to Jeff Bezos. OP you deserve cancer.

>>508453236
Yeah, at least 3 times.

>>508443756
They are an avoidable tax tard.

>>508443186 (OP)
how much did it cost to make that gay boat cover?

>>508443427
This is how the money to Israel is used. It's used to pay us politicians loyalty fees

>>508453256
they aren't acquiring income. they have CEOs that work for them. their wealth is owning stock in the companies they created. literally nobody gets paid billions.

>>508453602
I also disagree with stock ownership.

>>508443186 (OP)
They want you poor thus dependent on central authority - which they imagine will be theirs.

>>508451663
Lol doctors aren't wealthy
If someone HAS to work, they are poor
A doctor is just a well paid slave

>>508453736
>I also disagree with stock ownership.
meaning? the workers own the company they didn't create?

>>508443186 (OP)
Billionaires shouldn’t exist unless they’re actually going to use their wealth and resources to make the common folk more better off. They should be funding infrastructure, public transport initiatives, and medical research. They don’t need 11 yachts. They don’t need to fund soulless corporation #20472027492030. Either pay your dues or be executed. It shouldn’t be this fucking hard to get people to do the right thing and not be greedy cunts hoarding all the wealth while everyone else suffers

>>508444728
>This country is doomed unless we gut entitlement spending and that'll never happen under a democratic system.

It was and is being gutted, starting with Bill Clinton - to current day.
This is why you now see homeless lining the streets in every city and town.

Good job you homo.

>>508453256
>Musk made all those things himself did he?
Kings own everything in UK, they did all those things themselves, i presume?

Musk actually is a leader of the high IP and high end engineering tech - electrical cars, flying to space etc.
He runs the company and makes all the decisions (so if the company goes bankrupt it is all on him).
Bezos created a massive online delivery company that is extremely successful. If the company goes bankrupt it is fully HIS responsibility.

Kings in UK own everything and have 0 responsibility. If UK goes bankrupt they don't care. they can even kill you all.
The easiest for them is they'll just print more money. You are literal tax donkeys to kings.
Who have 0 responsibility to feed you or keep you alive.

>>508453736
>I also disagree with stock ownership.
Kings also have golden shares in UK, that's how they own giant companies . Such as BP, British Petroleum.
Without attracting any attention from the plebs that they own everything.

>>508443186 (OP)
Why are you siding with billionaires when you're in the 99% with the rest of us?
Do you think you're getting a piece of that and someday you'll need bullshit tax breaks?

What the fuck?? You voted Trump, didn't you? Fucking retard.

>>508453799
>If someone HAS to work, they are poor
>A doctor is just a well paid slave
so nobody should aspire to be a doctor? because it's slavery? i know a few doctors and they have their own practice. should nobody start their own business because it's slavery? should musk and bezos not have started their businesses because it's slavery?

>>508444465
You're some rebel! Fighting the good cause for billionaires who laugh at you.

>>508443427
I was approved for appliance help from some insurance program and after being approved, the local "co-ops" and agencies that were working under the insurance here never got back to me at all.
They (the Cornell university region) take any of the approved proceeds and split with it. Then tell you that you were "never eligable" for some of the housing and health programs you were approved of in the first place.
I looked into who these shady motherfuckers are and they're all militant democrats posting progression slogan and gay rights shit online. the insurance company they are supposed to represent never takes any feedback about it seriously and also its a major ivy league college era, so any corruption won't be investigated anyway.

so if you are approved for any housing help, the grants to it transfer over, and they steal it.

>>508443186 (OP)
The jews steal money.

>>508443186 (OP)
They are parasites
Always others must pay

>>508450512
Buffet

>>508443544
My man you are a dumb nigger, they will simply move their wealth offshore. Unless you are naive enough to think they'll look the IRS in the eyes and say "yeah that sounds good, i'm going to comply with you taking all my money". Saying it's a dumb idea is not a defense of multi-millionaires, it's an appeal to reality

>>508454327
i don't want anything from anyone and i'm not obsessed with what other people have. when i see someone with more than me, i don't expect anything from them. i just think, 'oh good job'.

>>508449888
Is he kazarian queen or joeshmoe? That fucker's ego demands he tripfags or or some shit. I doubt he's anon.

>>508443383
Their income is zero retard why is that so hard to understand

His bride is something else

>>508454728
>Buffet
he's not holding billions in cash. his money is all in berkshire hathaway. if he started selling the stock would tank. plus over the years he has demonstrated that he really doesn't give a fuck about money. he's an autist that just wants to see numbers going up.

>>508455297
>His bride is something else
she bogged when she didn't even need to

>>508453256
>>508454198
Kings in UK own everything and have 0 responsibility. If UK goes bankrupt they don't care. they can even kill you all.
The easiest for them is they'll just print more money. You are literal tax donkeys to kings.
Who have 0 responsibility to feed you or keep you alive.

In fact, kings are now replacing you (white tax donkey) with niggers and browns.
They don't care, and niggers and browns are easier tax donkeys than you.

The issue is that you cannot vote them out in your totalitarian dictratorship.
While they are literally replacing you.
In USA , we voted for Trump 3 times who closed the border and is now removing millions of nigger and brown illegals.

While you cannot vote them out. And you are too pussy to revolt.

While each billionaire who made their own money - like Musk or Bezos. Went through hell and back a number of times.
And probably became poor a number of times before company succeeded. And he is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for his company and the key people who work there.

>while king doesn't care - they can kill you, replace you
>or just print money if the economy has collapsed
>Kings have 0 responsibilities while they own everything.

>>508443186 (OP)
Because they've been conditioned to think their taxer will benefit them, when what is actually happening is their taxes are being used to line the pockets of the people conditioning them. Even if B eboopzoos paid 10 times what they think he owed it would never be enough for them. They also have the Harrison Bergeron mentality.

>>508454800
>My man you are a dumb nigger, they will simply move their wealth offshore
Have you ever heard of sanctions? Frozen assets? Kys dude

>>508455297
That's an expensive whore he picked up somewhere.
>maybe some high earning call girl
When your woman dresses like this in public - run.
>you really don't want to be Captain Save a Hoe
>and you cannot save them

>>508443186 (OP)
>if you can give shittons of money to the economy you could have given that money to a bunch of tards who would steal it
retards

>>508443186 (OP)
They have this strange belief that taxes are used to help people.

>>508443383
Why though?

>>508443186 (OP)
Agreed. Amazon should be nationalized, not pathetically begging Bezos for more monies

>>508443186 (OP)
Bezos is running a monopoly. It should be taxed out of existence.
Most billionaires are effectively the same.

>>508443186 (OP)
It's not that people should be paying taxes, it's that taxes should be raised on things like Land Value. People should get exemptions so they don't pay anything on the Land Value they own until they have a certain amount (corporations get no exemptions).

In this way you'll only be paying if you really own things that are creating for you a passive kind of income or that you're speculating on the value of.

>>508443383
Bezos' sallary is 80k a year. He makes his wealth by growing Amazon which he has stocks of.
But ok, let's say you start taxing people if they make enough $ from stocks. Then, all these rich people will just leave your country and go somewhere with more sane taxes and take all their capital with them. Congratulations, now you have no tax money and the local businesses who sell exclusive products and services for wealthy also fail.

>>508455974
>tax Amazon out of existance
>Aliexpress takes over the market
>???
>利润

>>508443186 (OP)
Replace corporate tax brackets with regulated corporate overhead brackets. Your business doesn’t pay anything to the government, but is obligated to meet a minimum threshold for its expenditures on product, property, payroll, etc. The more profitable your business the more you’re expected to be reinvesting into making a better product, paying employees better wages or offering better benefits, offering better customer service, etc. No more of this race to the bottom shit where companies are rewarded for how shitty they can make their product before people complain or how close to slave labor they can get before they get busted.

>>508443186 (OP)
Because it's the foundation of their ideology.
When nations became more successful under capitalism and the working classes began to prosper they realised that the best way to continue their ideology was to import millions of low IQ culturally incompatible useless eaters into the West and have the productive population subsidise them.
Thatcher was actually spot on when she said that the left would rather everyone was poorer than richer, without poverty leftist ideology ceases to exist. You see the same thing with all left-wing ideology. They never solve racism because if they did the grift would end, they never solve the energy crisis because if they did, the grift would end, they never solve homelessness because if they did, the grift would end.

Leftism is about a few people permanently profiting from problems that they've created.

>>508455424
>now removing millions of nigger and brown illegals
He is importing millions of jeets instead lmao

He probably paid more in tax than all of the people complaining about taxing him combined.

>>508443544
You're missing the point dude, he saying they simply will shift money around or outright refuse to expand their business to avoid paying the tax.
What's the point of increasing revenue if you're not gonna see it?

>>508443186 (OP)
Meanwhile in reality, Trump is the one to put massive taxes on you. Wake up Sheep.

>>508456495
Terrif the shit out of the chinks.
The point is to break the monopolies, and prevent others.
An open and competitive marketplace will result in innovation.
Both left and right fight this because neither want to fix it, they only want to curry favor from those exploiting the current system.

Millionaires complain about billionaires so they get heat of lower and middle class off their back.

It's a trick of deception and misdirection. Millionaires cause way more problems in society than billionaires.

There are 813 billionaires in America.
There are 22 million millionaires in America.

No - 813 people didn't change your life for the worse. The 22 million fucked you over trying to make theirs better at your expense.

>>508457148
>outright refuse to expand their business
This is a good thing when it's an effective monopoly.

>>508443186 (OP)
>why is the left so obsessed with making people pay more taxes
Conceptually, because the more rich someone is, the more benefit he is getting from society.
Therefore his contribution should be commensurate to his gain.

>>508443186 (OP)
>Socialism but only for the rich

>>508456834
lmao if you think mass immigration was done at the behest of lefties who just wanted more brown people around because they're envious of the huwhite race or whatever and not at the behest of capital who wants to expand the reserve army of labor

>>508457148
Sounds like a good reason to just fucking take the whole thing from them. Jeff Bezos can sweep the streets, we wont be lost without his genius intellect.


>>508457322
Competition is bad actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuBrGaVhjcI&t=926s

>>508443186 (OP)
I want to rent venice and then fucking destroy this fucking shithole
God i fucking hate venice so much i want to kill every last shitalian subhuman.
I will buy like an underwater chainsaw or something and tear it down.
It will collapse upon me and people will come and place water lilys on the ruins to honor me.
This is how a samson option should play out.
By destroying fucking venice.
The shitties shithole of all open sewage systems the world has ever seen.

>>508457322
>The point is to break the monopolies
By removing competition?

>An open and competitive marketplace
Like the one we have now?

>Both left and right fight this because neither want to fix it
You don't fix market by removing players from it. You will either end up with a monopoly or, if you are successful enough, it will just move to the underground.

Do leftists just not understand that multimillionaires will always find a way to lessen their tax burden arguably ethically questionable, but the solution isn’t to just raise it even more?

>>508457449
What monopoly does amazon have? Is this the only online market? Is it the only cloud service? Is it the only manufacturer of e-book readers?

>>508443186 (OP)
It’s a form of sadism. They get off on making you pay for your own torment and persecution.

the wealth differential in cities is asounding and they are envious.
they don't realize how most of the country lives, and are very angry they aren't living like the jeets and the billionaire jews.
they think this is the only way to get some of that cash. they won't get any, but they don't want others to have it either.

>>508457720
What labour? Most Western nations have already deindustrialised themselves and the jobs that shitskins are doing are completely pointless and only really exist due to the presence of said shitskins. If these people weren't wandering around you wouldn't need Ubereats jeets bringing you your food or Amazon delivery drivers bringing you a new television. You could just go to your local mall and buy it yourself.
The left actively encourages mass immigration and suppresses workers' wages because it suits their agenda and maintains their relevance. Even farm work has mostly been solved with automation but the left continue to stifle innovation by pumping cheap labour into markets.

>>508443186 (OP)
The super rich should pay more you filthy cunt. Stop defending them fucking everyone over.

>>508458118
You don't know what a monopoly is

>>508457449
Fair point but you gotta remember how different entities are taxed
Corporations are tax on their own and then taxed again when that income is distributed to management. Obviously they can simply control how much money is going from the corp to the individual, if you're looking at taxing the individual. If you want to tax the corp they will offset it with expenses
Then you have flow through entities which, any income, of the business is taxed as the individuals income. Not a lot of these are in the billionaire range though ever
>>508457720
Seizing property at the top is the best excuse to do it to the bottom

>>508458004
>do honest people not realize that cunts will always find new ways to break the spirit of the law by exploiting the letter of it?
>better to just legalize crime instead of playing cat and mouse with criminals

>>508458466
>38%
Apparently I don't.
>A monopoly (from Greek μόνος, mónos, 'single, alone' and πωλεῖν, pōleîn, 'to sell') is a market in which one person or company is the only supplier of a particular good or service.

>>508443459
They need less motivation

>>508443186 (OP)
why is the right so obsessed with worshipping billionaires and israel?

>>508458809
That's still a significant market share but as you said there are a lot of variables to consider rather than throwing a blanket statement over things like Brazil anon did

>>508443186 (OP)
They think the problem is not enough money when the problem is niggers, kikes and poos

>>508457963
>>An open and competitive marketplace
>Like the one we have now?
Lol, LMAO even

>>508443186 (OP)
Yeah we should tax the rich more then send it to Israel…that will be so great!

>>508458436
>Most Western nations have already deindustrialised themselves
And you blame "the left" for that, I presume? Fucking idiot.

>Even farm work has mostly been solved with automation but the left continue to stifle innovation by pumping cheap labour into markets.
Oh the poor widdle farm owners are just FORCED to hire cheap immigrants when all they really want robots to do all the farming for us!

What fucking planet do you live on?

>>508458929
Sure. But this also is probably just US.
Here, everyone uses local market(Allegro) and aliexpress is very popular as well. Amazon is not that popular. Dunno how it is in Italy, but I assume other European countries also have local online markets.

>>508459061
Well, what is stopping other online markets from competing outside of inevitable economies of scale?

At what IQ cutoff do people start being able to see and understand second and third order effects?
Should people who do not meet such IQ be able to vote?

They're all funded by organizations that receive federal funding

>>508443186 (OP)
People have to pay for nigs

>>508458601
>Corporations are tax on their own and then taxed again when that income is distributed to management.
The entire corporate model is an issue also. Just one example of many is how the Ford vs. Dodge case is involved. But overall it is a abomination that makes capital nothing more than what you can barrow from a bank, and reduces any intrinsic value of resources, property, and labor to a commodity to inflate or deflate as leverage for usury.

>>508458004
The solution is to place taxes in such a way that this is always more difficult to do.

Any kind of attempts to do this are very seriously fought against. Attempts to just raise existing taxes are fought but they're also fine giving ground on it, they already don't pay them, and it's always used as a way to justify raising taxes on working people.

>>508451329
>You mean the one she didn't ask for, and was forced to take home?
huh? what did she expect? getting martyr'd? yids are smarter than that and her handlers should be as well. no publicity at all from this stunt. all protestors of any sort are retarded. get violent or shut the fuck up. you dont line billionaires? sharpen the guillotine. you want to help earths climate? kill about some billion humans. i even have a green way of doing this! just spread some diseases! ezpz

>>508459333
>everyone uses local market(Allegro) and aliexpress is very popular as well. Amazon is not that popular. Dunno how it is in Italy, but I assume other European countries also have local online markets.
So you freely admit you don't know how other European countries work, and know there are multiple competitors for Amazon there
Yet you assume to know how it works here
>Well, what is stopping other online markets from competing outside of inevitable economies of scale?
The only reason there is competition for Amazon in Europe is because European countries limited how Amazon could expand, unlike in the US where it is effectively a 5th column.

>>508443186 (OP)
I don't understand the mind of billionaire simps

>>508443186 (OP)
>I love billionaire cock
we know you do
The rest of us have a spine
If you're making way more in profits than the effort you put in, someone is getting screwed, and sometimes it's people like you bending over and taking it willingly

>>508460543
>Yet you assume to know how it works here
Here, you mean where? I am a Pole responding to a Brazilian in context of a protest/happening in Italy. I never said anything about USA.

>>508460600
Most will be the average wagecagie with some sort of stock back retirement.
So any questioning of the billionaires businesses is a threat to their retirement.

>>508443186 (OP)
Because otherwise people will start to talk about killing them instead.

>>508457359
Fake millionaires. Importing cheap labour only makes them feel rich and leaves behind the middle classes in the dirt.

>>508460711
i think of it like this. Possibly tesla an and amazon would exist without musk or bezos. I'm not fully convinced of it, but i concede its possible if they didn't live someone else would have risen in a similar situation and been rich and successful in their place. However, one thing i am much more sure of is that if nobody got rich, if getting rich was forbidden, there definitely would not be a tesla or amazon

>>508460757
Yes, and we where discussing Amazon being a monopoly that needs to be broken up. Your other conversation only highlights this with Amazon's popularity in Europe and the underlying reason for that (European governments limiting Amazons expansion in their countries)

A Nigga gotta eat.